Re: Impossible to select text of that page

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Lee wrote:

On 3/12/18, Paul in Houston, TX  wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale

What can we do to select some text of this page ?


Turn off JS and refresh.


I have javascript blocked & only enable it if absolutely required.  So
I didn't have any problems selecting or copying text.  If you do want
to have JS enabled try setting
dom.event.contextmenu.enabled  to false
or
dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled  to false
and see if either one of those does the trick for you

Lee


For me it's easier to use QuickJS.  Click on / click off.

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Re: Impossible to select text of that page

[Paul in Houston, TX]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/12/2018 5:37 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale

What can we do to select some text of this page ?


Turn off JS and refresh.
They are using JS to block copying but are not very good at it.


It is not necessary to refresh.  Merely disabling JavaScript allows the
text to be marked and copied.

It appears that the script used to block mark-and-copy is quite robust.
If I re-enable JavaScript without refreshing, mark-and-copy is again
blocked.  Most scripts do not restart when JavaScript is disabled and
then re-enabled.


Hmm... does not work that way for me.
No refresh = no copy.
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Re: Impossible to select text of that page

[Lee]

On 3/12/18, Paul in Houston, TX  wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale
>>
>> What can we do to select some text of this page ?
>
> Turn off JS and refresh.

I have javascript blocked & only enable it if absolutely required.  So
I didn't have any problems selecting or copying text.  If you do want
to have JS enabled try setting
dom.event.contextmenu.enabled  to false
or
dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled  to false
and see if either one of those does the trick for you

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Re: Impossible to select text of that page

[David E. Ross]

On 3/12/2018 5:37 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale
>>
>> What can we do to select some text of this page ?
> 
> Turn off JS and refresh.
> They are using JS to block copying but are not very good at it.

It is not necessary to refresh.  Merely disabling JavaScript allows the
text to be marked and copied.

It appears that the script used to block mark-and-copy is quite robust.
If I re-enable JavaScript without refreshing, mark-and-copy is again
blocked.  Most scripts do not restart when JavaScript is disabled and
then re-enabled.

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Re: Impossible to select text of that page

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:
http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale 



What can we do to select some text of this page ?


Turn off JS and refresh.
They are using JS to block copying but are not very good at it.


Yep, they have good reason, too:

"Le site www.vacc.info et son contenu, en ce compris de façon non 
limitative les textes, graphiques, images, logos et icônes, sont 
protégés par des droits de propriété intellectuelle ou autres et ne 
peuvent pas être copiés, reproduits, distribués, utilisés, adaptés ou 
traduits, en tout ou en partie, sauf autorisation écrite de l´asbl 
Question Santé, et sans préjudice de la possibilité de télécharger et 
d´imprimer des éléments du site www.vacc.info exclusivement à titre 
d´usage privé, à des fins personnelles et non commerciales, pour autant 
que le contenu ne soit pas modifié et que les notices de droits d´auteur 
et marques soient conservées."


My sight translation:

"The site www.vacc.info and its content, including but not limited to 
text, graphics, images, logos, and icons, are protected by intellectual 
or other property rights and may not be copied, reproduced, distributed, 
used, adapted, or translated, in whole or in part, without the written 
permission of Question Santé ASBL ["Health Question Nonprofit 
Organization"], and without prejudice to the possibility of downloading 
and printing elements of the site www.vacc.info solely for private use, 
for personal and noncommercial purposes, so long as the content is not 
modified and copyright and trademark notices are retained."


So "fair use" is OK, but nothing more.

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Re: Possible Script Button ?

[David E. Ross]

On 3/12/2018 6:24 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/12/2018 12:41 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
>
> WHY can't I stop any web page at any time ?
>
> DoctorBill

 I have "NoScript" running (I think!) but as to what choices to toggle in
 the program menu - they are ALL JARGON which I do not understand !
 I don't even know if it actually IS doing anything...
>>>
>>>
>>> My experience with NoScript is that it blacklists everything by default,
>>> and that you generally have to whitelist (temporarily or permanently),
>>> individual scripting hosts.
>>>
>>> At first level of user interface, the default handling is to put a small
>>> icon in the toolbar at the very bottom of a Seamonkey window. In my
>>> display, that's between the lock icon that shows certificate
>>> information, and the icon shown by AdBlock Plus.  In my own
>>> implementation, I also tweak my Navigation toolbar at the top of the
>>> display. If I right-click on that toolbar, and select "customize", that
>>> allows me to drag NoScript buttons into the toolbar.  The buttons for
>>> Temporarily All Scripts in this Page, and Revoke Temporary Permissions
>>> should be self-explanatory.  If you use the NoScript button, that's the
>>> same thing as you get with the icon at the bottom of the page.
>>>
>>> If you dig further into the options settings, there's stuff that's a lot
>>> more cryptic, and I don't understand a lot of them myself, especially in
>>> the Advanced tab -- a lot of that assumes knowledge of web page design.
>>> For most of what you want, the settings would be in the General and
>>> Whitelist tabs.  For most of the stuff in the other tabs, default
>>> settings should be adequate, unless you know you have specific reason to
>>> change something.
>>>
>>> NoScript has a lot of power, but it takes some tinkering with to get it
>>> tuned for what you want, especially in handling whitelisting or marking
>>> specific scripting hosts as permanently untrusted.
>>>
>>> For me, I'm generally content to leave nearly everything blacklisted, as
>>> a default, and then temporarily whitelisting, when needed. But even that
>>> takes a bit of tinkering.  There's certainly sites that I trust (e.g,
>>> scripting coming from the domain name itself), and I trust certain
>>> scripting engines.  Scripting from content mirrors (such as cloudfront),
>>> or Content Delivery Networks (with CDN) are generally candidates for
>>> whitelisting. On the other hand, stuff from advertising networks (many,
>>> but not all may have "ad" in the name, such as adsonar) are worth blocking.
>>>
>>> Depending on your browsing habits, some scripting hosts deliver both
>>> stuff you want to see and stuff you want to block, and sometimes you
>>> have to choose to accept the garbage, for stuff that you want.  This is
>>> especially true with some sites that use the same scripting host to
>>> deliver auto-play media content, photos, and text content.  I've also
>>> found that with some sites, it takes multiple runs of "Temporarily allow
>>> all on this page". Some scripting hosts may not try to deliver stuff
>>> immediately, until you've granted permission to other scripts.  And this
>>> is especially true with sites that do forms (particularly purchasing).
>>> Occasionally, I'll get part way into a form, and discover that there's
>>> scripts that are blocked. When I enable the scripts (and the browser
>>> repaints the page), then I get a clean form, having lost everything
>>> that's already been entered.
>>>
>>> If you're simply trying to block scripts when they get to be intrusive
>>> or obnoxious, another approach could be with PrefBar.  One of the
>>> options there is JavaScript, and if you have that enabled, it's a mtter
>>> of just toggling a tick box on a toolbar, to turn on or turn off
>>> scripting.  I don't use that one, but I make occasional use of similar
>>> options of blocking/enabling images, cookies, sending referrer data, etc.
>>>
>>> Smith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There are actually two PrefBar options for stopping JavaScript.  Both
>> are in the vanilla PrefBar.
>>
>> *  "Javascript (Tab)" works on the current tab or window.  For this one,
>> you have to move it from Available Items to Enabled Items.
>>
>> *  "JavaScript" works on any subsequently launched tab or window but not
>> on the current one.  This one should already be in Enabled Items.
>>
>> When I set these up, I called the first one "Local JavaScript" and the
>> second one "Global JavaScript".
>>
>> NOTE WELL:  All this becomes defunct when SeaMonkey transitions to
>> Webextensions.  :(
>>
> 
> WHAT does that mean !? "All this becomes defunct when SeaMonkey 
> transitions to
> Webextensions."  ?  Jargon.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

PrefBar is an .xpi extension.  These will not work when Webextensions
are implemented in Firefox.  It is expected that SeaMonkey will follow
Firefox's evolution, thus eliminating existing extensions.

The developer of 

Re: Possible Script Button ?

[DoctorBill]

NFN Smith wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


WHY can't I stop any web page at any time ?

DoctorBill


I have "NoScript" running (I think!) but as to what choices to toggle in
the program menu - they are ALL JARGON which I do not understand !
I don't even know if it actually IS doing anything...



My experience with NoScript is that it blacklists everything by default, 
and that you generally have to whitelist (temporarily or permanently), 
individual scripting hosts.


At first level of user interface, the default handling is to put a small 
icon in the toolbar at the very bottom of a Seamonkey window. In my 
display, that's between the lock icon that shows certificate 
information, and the icon shown by AdBlock Plus.  In my own 
implementation, I also tweak my Navigation toolbar at the top of the 
display. If I right-click on that toolbar, and select "customize", that 
allows me to drag NoScript buttons into the toolbar.  The buttons for 
Temporarily All Scripts in this Page, and Revoke Temporary Permissions 
should be self-explanatory.  If you use the NoScript button, that's the 
same thing as you get with the icon at the bottom of the page.


If you dig further into the options settings, there's stuff that's a lot 
more cryptic, and I don't understand a lot of them myself, especially in 
the Advanced tab -- a lot of that assumes knowledge of web page design. 
For most of what you want, the settings would be in the General and 
Whitelist tabs.  For most of the stuff in the other tabs, default 
settings should be adequate, unless you know you have specific reason to 
change something.


NoScript has a lot of power, but it takes some tinkering with to get it 
tuned for what you want, especially in handling whitelisting or marking 
specific scripting hosts as permanently untrusted.


For me, I'm generally content to leave nearly everything blacklisted, as 
a default, and then temporarily whitelisting, when needed. But even that 
takes a bit of tinkering.  There's certainly sites that I trust (e.g, 
scripting coming from the domain name itself), and I trust certain 
scripting engines.  Scripting from content mirrors (such as cloudfront), 
or Content Delivery Networks (with CDN) are generally candidates for 
whitelisting. On the other hand, stuff from advertising networks (many, 
but not all may have "ad" in the name, such as adsonar) are worth blocking.


Depending on your browsing habits, some scripting hosts deliver both 
stuff you want to see and stuff you want to block, and sometimes you 
have to choose to accept the garbage, for stuff that you want.  This is 
especially true with some sites that use the same scripting host to 
deliver auto-play media content, photos, and text content.  I've also 
found that with some sites, it takes multiple runs of "Temporarily allow 
all on this page". Some scripting hosts may not try to deliver stuff 
immediately, until you've granted permission to other scripts.  And this 
is especially true with sites that do forms (particularly purchasing). 
Occasionally, I'll get part way into a form, and discover that there's 
scripts that are blocked. When I enable the scripts (and the browser 
repaints the page), then I get a clean form, having lost everything 
that's already been entered.


If you're simply trying to block scripts when they get to be intrusive 
or obnoxious, another approach could be with PrefBar.  One of the 
options there is JavaScript, and if you have that enabled, it's a mtter 
of just toggling a tick box on a toolbar, to turn on or turn off 
scripting.  I don't use that one, but I make occasional use of similar 
options of blocking/enabling images, cookies, sending referrer data, etc.


Smith




Wow !  Thank you for those explanations !  You spent quite a bit of effort !

You know 100x more than I do !
My biggest question is - how do you know when a script is running ?
My FoxNews.com web site will work fine and when I get on the "Comments"
part (a lot of fun !) - often it slows nearly to a stop !
I am presuming a script is running and taking over by transmitting some
garbage or trying to invade my computer.(?)
SO - I don't KNOW what is slowing the works down and I bail out and start
over.
Is there some way to find out - akin to starting something like the Task 
Manager?

How can I know which "script" is running while it is messing with me ?

DoctorBill

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Re: Possible Script Button ?

[DoctorBill]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/12/2018 12:41 PM, NFN Smith wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


WHY can't I stop any web page at any time ?

DoctorBill


I have "NoScript" running (I think!) but as to what choices to toggle in
the program menu - they are ALL JARGON which I do not understand !
I don't even know if it actually IS doing anything...



My experience with NoScript is that it blacklists everything by default,
and that you generally have to whitelist (temporarily or permanently),
individual scripting hosts.

At first level of user interface, the default handling is to put a small
icon in the toolbar at the very bottom of a Seamonkey window. In my
display, that's between the lock icon that shows certificate
information, and the icon shown by AdBlock Plus.  In my own
implementation, I also tweak my Navigation toolbar at the top of the
display. If I right-click on that toolbar, and select "customize", that
allows me to drag NoScript buttons into the toolbar.  The buttons for
Temporarily All Scripts in this Page, and Revoke Temporary Permissions
should be self-explanatory.  If you use the NoScript button, that's the
same thing as you get with the icon at the bottom of the page.

If you dig further into the options settings, there's stuff that's a lot
more cryptic, and I don't understand a lot of them myself, especially in
the Advanced tab -- a lot of that assumes knowledge of web page design.
For most of what you want, the settings would be in the General and
Whitelist tabs.  For most of the stuff in the other tabs, default
settings should be adequate, unless you know you have specific reason to
change something.

NoScript has a lot of power, but it takes some tinkering with to get it
tuned for what you want, especially in handling whitelisting or marking
specific scripting hosts as permanently untrusted.

For me, I'm generally content to leave nearly everything blacklisted, as
a default, and then temporarily whitelisting, when needed. But even that
takes a bit of tinkering.  There's certainly sites that I trust (e.g,
scripting coming from the domain name itself), and I trust certain
scripting engines.  Scripting from content mirrors (such as cloudfront),
or Content Delivery Networks (with CDN) are generally candidates for
whitelisting. On the other hand, stuff from advertising networks (many,
but not all may have "ad" in the name, such as adsonar) are worth blocking.

Depending on your browsing habits, some scripting hosts deliver both
stuff you want to see and stuff you want to block, and sometimes you
have to choose to accept the garbage, for stuff that you want.  This is
especially true with some sites that use the same scripting host to
deliver auto-play media content, photos, and text content.  I've also
found that with some sites, it takes multiple runs of "Temporarily allow
all on this page". Some scripting hosts may not try to deliver stuff
immediately, until you've granted permission to other scripts.  And this
is especially true with sites that do forms (particularly purchasing).
Occasionally, I'll get part way into a form, and discover that there's
scripts that are blocked. When I enable the scripts (and the browser
repaints the page), then I get a clean form, having lost everything
that's already been entered.

If you're simply trying to block scripts when they get to be intrusive
or obnoxious, another approach could be with PrefBar.  One of the
options there is JavaScript, and if you have that enabled, it's a mtter
of just toggling a tick box on a toolbar, to turn on or turn off
scripting.  I don't use that one, but I make occasional use of similar
options of blocking/enabling images, cookies, sending referrer data, etc.

Smith





There are actually two PrefBar options for stopping JavaScript.  Both
are in the vanilla PrefBar.

*  "Javascript (Tab)" works on the current tab or window.  For this one,
you have to move it from Available Items to Enabled Items.

*  "JavaScript" works on any subsequently launched tab or window but not
on the current one.  This one should already be in Enabled Items.

When I set these up, I called the first one "Local JavaScript" and the
second one "Global JavaScript".

NOTE WELL:  All this becomes defunct when SeaMonkey transitions to
Webextensions.  :(



WHAT does that mean !? "All this becomes defunct when SeaMonkey 
transitions to

Webextensions."  ?  Jargon.

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Re: Impossible to select text of that page

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Ray_Net wrote:

http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale

What can we do to select some text of this page ?


Turn off JS and refresh.
They are using JS to block copying but are not very good at it.



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Re: Impossible to select text of that page

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:
http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale 


What can we do to select some text of this page ?


1) CTRL-U to see the source code.

2) CTRL-F to search for a key term such as "GENERALITES"

3) Select the desired text, e.g.:

L'href="/maladies-evitables-par-vaccination/l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale">encéphalite 
à tiques d'Europe Centrale est une méningo-encéphalite due à un 
virus. Elle est transmise par des piqûres de tiques. 
Exceptionnellement, elle peut être transmise lors de la consommation de 
lait de vache ou de chèvre non pasteurisé. La maladie est 
habituellement bénigne. Le décès et les séquelles neurologiques sont 
rares. Le risque d'infection est saisonnier : du printemps à 
l'automne inclus (d'avril à octobre).
Le vaccin contre l'encéphalite à tiques d'Europe 
Centrale est un vaccin tué à base de virus inactivés cultivés sur 
cellules d'embryon de poulet. Un degré de protection de 98% est obtenu 
après trois injections.


4) Edit out the HTML codes:

L'encéphalite à tiques d'Europe Centrale est une méningo-encéphalite due 
à un virus.
Elle est transmise par des piqûres de tiques. Exceptionnellement, elle 
peut être transmise lors de la consommation de lait de vache ou de 
chèvre non pasteurisé.
La maladie est habituellement bénigne. Le décès et les séquelles 
neurologiques sont rares.
Le risque d'infection est saisonnier : du printemps à l'automne inclus 
(d'avril à octobre).


Le *vaccin* contre l'encéphalite à tiques d'Europe Centrale est un 
vaccin tué à base de virus inactivés cultivés sur cellules d'embryon de 
poulet. Un degré de protection de 98% est obtenu après trois injections.


PITA, I agree, but feasible.

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Re: Impossible to select text of that page

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On 3/12/18 8:09 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale 


What can we do to select some text of this page ?



Print the page, take a screenshot, or use Firefox and Reader view for 
that page, which allows you to copy text.


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Impossible to select text of that page

[Ray_Net]

http://www.vaccination-info.be/vaccinations-du-voyageur/vaccination-contre-l-encephalite-a-tiques-d-europe-centrale
What can we do to select some text of this page ?
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Re: Possible Script Button ?

[David E. Ross]

On 3/12/2018 12:41 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>>>
>>> WHY can't I stop any web page at any time ?
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>
>> I have "NoScript" running (I think!) but as to what choices to toggle in
>> the program menu - they are ALL JARGON which I do not understand !
>> I don't even know if it actually IS doing anything...
> 
> 
> My experience with NoScript is that it blacklists everything by default, 
> and that you generally have to whitelist (temporarily or permanently), 
> individual scripting hosts.
> 
> At first level of user interface, the default handling is to put a small 
> icon in the toolbar at the very bottom of a Seamonkey window. In my 
> display, that's between the lock icon that shows certificate 
> information, and the icon shown by AdBlock Plus.  In my own 
> implementation, I also tweak my Navigation toolbar at the top of the 
> display. If I right-click on that toolbar, and select "customize", that 
> allows me to drag NoScript buttons into the toolbar.  The buttons for 
> Temporarily All Scripts in this Page, and Revoke Temporary Permissions 
> should be self-explanatory.  If you use the NoScript button, that's the 
> same thing as you get with the icon at the bottom of the page.
> 
> If you dig further into the options settings, there's stuff that's a lot 
> more cryptic, and I don't understand a lot of them myself, especially in 
> the Advanced tab -- a lot of that assumes knowledge of web page design. 
> For most of what you want, the settings would be in the General and 
> Whitelist tabs.  For most of the stuff in the other tabs, default 
> settings should be adequate, unless you know you have specific reason to 
> change something.
> 
> NoScript has a lot of power, but it takes some tinkering with to get it 
> tuned for what you want, especially in handling whitelisting or marking 
> specific scripting hosts as permanently untrusted.
> 
> For me, I'm generally content to leave nearly everything blacklisted, as 
> a default, and then temporarily whitelisting, when needed. But even that 
> takes a bit of tinkering.  There's certainly sites that I trust (e.g, 
> scripting coming from the domain name itself), and I trust certain 
> scripting engines.  Scripting from content mirrors (such as cloudfront), 
> or Content Delivery Networks (with CDN) are generally candidates for 
> whitelisting. On the other hand, stuff from advertising networks (many, 
> but not all may have "ad" in the name, such as adsonar) are worth blocking.
> 
> Depending on your browsing habits, some scripting hosts deliver both 
> stuff you want to see and stuff you want to block, and sometimes you 
> have to choose to accept the garbage, for stuff that you want.  This is 
> especially true with some sites that use the same scripting host to 
> deliver auto-play media content, photos, and text content.  I've also 
> found that with some sites, it takes multiple runs of "Temporarily allow 
> all on this page". Some scripting hosts may not try to deliver stuff 
> immediately, until you've granted permission to other scripts.  And this 
> is especially true with sites that do forms (particularly purchasing). 
> Occasionally, I'll get part way into a form, and discover that there's 
> scripts that are blocked. When I enable the scripts (and the browser 
> repaints the page), then I get a clean form, having lost everything 
> that's already been entered.
> 
> If you're simply trying to block scripts when they get to be intrusive 
> or obnoxious, another approach could be with PrefBar.  One of the 
> options there is JavaScript, and if you have that enabled, it's a mtter 
> of just toggling a tick box on a toolbar, to turn on or turn off 
> scripting.  I don't use that one, but I make occasional use of similar 
> options of blocking/enabling images, cookies, sending referrer data, etc.
> 
> Smith
> 
> 
> 

There are actually two PrefBar options for stopping JavaScript.  Both
are in the vanilla PrefBar.

*  "Javascript (Tab)" works on the current tab or window.  For this one,
you have to move it from Available Items to Enabled Items.

*  "JavaScript" works on any subsequently launched tab or window but not
on the current one.  This one should already be in Enabled Items.

When I set these up, I called the first one "Local JavaScript" and the
second one "Global JavaScript".

NOTE WELL:  All this becomes defunct when SeaMonkey transitions to
Webextensions.  :(

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Re: Messages about Silvio Berlusconi

[Mason83]

On 12/03/2018 22:42, Arthur N. Dunning III wrote:

> To whom it may concern:
> 
> Does anybody know who's responsible for recent messages in Italian 

I would dispute the "recent" qualifier.

This italian smear campaign has been running for over a decade
by now.
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Re: Messages about Silvio Berlusconi

[Ray_Net]

Arthur N. Dunning III wrote on 12-03-18 22:42:

To whom it may concern:

Does anybody know who's responsible for recent messages in Italian 
regarding Silvio Berlusconi? Because I, for one, am getting tired of 
seeing them. This is about Seamonkey, not what's going on in Italy, 
and whoever is responsible clearly doesn't get that.


Arthur

Us the filtering option to discard such messages.
At news-account level or at individual subscribed group.
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Messages about Silvio Berlusconi

[Arthur N. Dunning III]

To whom it may concern:

Does anybody know who's responsible for recent messages in Italian 
regarding Silvio Berlusconi? Because I, for one, am getting tired of 
seeing them. This is about Seamonkey, not what's going on in Italy, and 
whoever is responsible clearly doesn't get that.


Arthur
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Re: Possible Script Button ?

[NFN Smith]

DoctorBill wrote:


WHY can't I stop any web page at any time ?

DoctorBill


I have "NoScript" running (I think!) but as to what choices to toggle in
the program menu - they are ALL JARGON which I do not understand !
I don't even know if it actually IS doing anything...



My experience with NoScript is that it blacklists everything by default, 
and that you generally have to whitelist (temporarily or permanently), 
individual scripting hosts.


At first level of user interface, the default handling is to put a small 
icon in the toolbar at the very bottom of a Seamonkey window. In my 
display, that's between the lock icon that shows certificate 
information, and the icon shown by AdBlock Plus.  In my own 
implementation, I also tweak my Navigation toolbar at the top of the 
display. If I right-click on that toolbar, and select "customize", that 
allows me to drag NoScript buttons into the toolbar.  The buttons for 
Temporarily All Scripts in this Page, and Revoke Temporary Permissions 
should be self-explanatory.  If you use the NoScript button, that's the 
same thing as you get with the icon at the bottom of the page.


If you dig further into the options settings, there's stuff that's a lot 
more cryptic, and I don't understand a lot of them myself, especially in 
the Advanced tab -- a lot of that assumes knowledge of web page design. 
For most of what you want, the settings would be in the General and 
Whitelist tabs.  For most of the stuff in the other tabs, default 
settings should be adequate, unless you know you have specific reason to 
change something.


NoScript has a lot of power, but it takes some tinkering with to get it 
tuned for what you want, especially in handling whitelisting or marking 
specific scripting hosts as permanently untrusted.


For me, I'm generally content to leave nearly everything blacklisted, as 
a default, and then temporarily whitelisting, when needed. But even that 
takes a bit of tinkering.  There's certainly sites that I trust (e.g, 
scripting coming from the domain name itself), and I trust certain 
scripting engines.  Scripting from content mirrors (such as cloudfront), 
or Content Delivery Networks (with CDN) are generally candidates for 
whitelisting. On the other hand, stuff from advertising networks (many, 
but not all may have "ad" in the name, such as adsonar) are worth blocking.


Depending on your browsing habits, some scripting hosts deliver both 
stuff you want to see and stuff you want to block, and sometimes you 
have to choose to accept the garbage, for stuff that you want.  This is 
especially true with some sites that use the same scripting host to 
deliver auto-play media content, photos, and text content.  I've also 
found that with some sites, it takes multiple runs of "Temporarily allow 
all on this page". Some scripting hosts may not try to deliver stuff 
immediately, until you've granted permission to other scripts.  And this 
is especially true with sites that do forms (particularly purchasing). 
Occasionally, I'll get part way into a form, and discover that there's 
scripts that are blocked. When I enable the scripts (and the browser 
repaints the page), then I get a clean form, having lost everything 
that's already been entered.


If you're simply trying to block scripts when they get to be intrusive 
or obnoxious, another approach could be with PrefBar.  One of the 
options there is JavaScript, and if you have that enabled, it's a mtter 
of just toggling a tick box on a toolbar, to turn on or turn off 
scripting.  I don't use that one, but I make occasional use of similar 
options of blocking/enabling images, cookies, sending referrer data, etc.


Smith



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Re: Combining Bookmarks folders

[EE]

Daniel wrote:
I'm trying to combine two Bookmarks folders to ensure I have a single 
listing of all the websites whos content I have been interested in over 
the years.


I've added the second bookmarks file to the first bookmarks file which 
has given me a listing with lots of doubled up sub-directories, e.g. two 
"General" directories, two "Financial" directories, two "Mozilla" 
directories, etc., etc..


If I, now, export the file as a HTML file (Tools->Export HTML...) would 
I then be able to edit that file in LibreOffice, or some such, delete 
all the twins, combine what's left and the import it back into SeaMonkey 
(Tools->Import HTML ..).


If not, could someone offer another suggestion?

Thanks.


Why not remove the duplicates with the Bookmark Manager?

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Re: Combining Bookmarks folders

[Ed Mullen]

On 3/12/2018 at 9:03 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:
I'm trying to combine two Bookmarks folders to ensure I have a single 
listing of all the websites whos content I have been interested in over 
the years.


I've added the second bookmarks file to the first bookmarks file which 
has given me a listing with lots of doubled up sub-directories, e.g. two 
"General" directories, two "Financial" directories, two "Mozilla" 
directories, etc., etc..


If I, now, export the file as a HTML file (Tools->Export HTML...) would 
I then be able to edit that file in LibreOffice, or some such, delete 
all the twins, combine what's left and the import it back into SeaMonkey 
(Tools->Import HTML ..).


If not, could someone offer another suggestion?

Thanks.



Why not just edit it in SeaMonkey's bookmarks manager?

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to 
those of us who do." - Isaac Asimov


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Combining Bookmarks folders

[Daniel]

I'm trying to combine two Bookmarks folders to ensure I have a single 
listing of all the websites whos content I have been interested in over 
the years.


I've added the second bookmarks file to the first bookmarks file which 
has given me a listing with lots of doubled up sub-directories, e.g. two 
"General" directories, two "Financial" directories, two "Mozilla" 
directories, etc., etc..


If I, now, export the file as a HTML file (Tools->Export HTML...) would 
I then be able to edit that file in LibreOffice, or some such, delete 
all the twins, combine what's left and the import it back into SeaMonkey 
(Tools->Import HTML ..).


If not, could someone offer another suggestion?

Thanks.

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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