Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
Ant via support-seamonkey composed on 2018-04-15 22:47 (UTC-0700):

> Well, unsupported doesn't always mean blocked. Also, what about Firefox 
> ESR versions? :/ 

Same moronic limitation with FF ESR52, but

general.useragent.override.usps.com

containing:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows > NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0");

or similar showing a sufficiently newer than 52.0 version works.
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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
Well, unsupported doesn't always mean blocked. Also, what about Firefox 
ESR versions? :/



On 4/14/2018 11:22 PM, Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read 
more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about 
to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for 
about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a 
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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Desiree

On 4/15/2018 9:04 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0




The above does NOT work in Fx 52.7.3 ESR.  It works fine in Seamonkey 
and Basilisk 2018.03.21 (x64). (Basilisk is forked off Fx 55).


Clicking on "Read More" at USPS still gives me the warning about an 
outdated browser for Fx but using SeaMonkey and Basilisk I get 
Congratulations your browser is up to date.  User Agent Switcher is 
currently being rewritten for WebE and there is no updated list of user 
agents that includes Fx 59 in the XUL version I use on Fx 52.


You'd think the USPS would not be insulting Enterprise Fx 52 users as Fx 
52 ESR is supported by Mozilla through Aug 2018 (internal push of ver 62 
will not occur until Aug 29) so they are jumping the gun in removing 
support in April.


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread cmcadams

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/15/18 3:50 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

Ed Mullen composed on 2018-04-15 11:16 (UTC-0400):


Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:



user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");



That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which
is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.


Actual UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.2

Using for general.useragent.override.usps.com:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0 
or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0


First string doesn't work, second does, here.



The Firefox browser works here. Y'all enjoy your problems.



Sure, everybody knows Firefox is where all the cool kids are. All those folks doing 
their best to steer clear must just be nuts.


For anyone wanting a simple mechanism for fixing Seamonkey's UA string problems, here 
is what the user.js file in my Profiles\[config_name].default directory now looks like:


user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
# user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0");

user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");

1st and last lines are per David Ross, to whom thanks.

No line break in the UA string for line 2. The '#' at the beginning of line 2 
comments out the rest of the line (eg, won't be executed, because it has already run 
successfully). User.js is run every time Seamonkey starts, and you can verify this by 
going to about:config. The first item will normally be "00_user.js.loaded" set to 
yes, meaning that your user.js was seen. With no line 2, or with line 2 commented 
out, nothing is actually added to prefs.js, and that's OK, it does no harm run 
"empty" and it gives you a permanent template in place ready for the next annoying 
website.


When you have an un-commented out line 2 such as:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0");


where the chase.com can be replaced with any name of any other website giving you 
problems, that site will thereafter see only what you want them to see.



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Re: Website Blocked?

2018-04-15 Thread Daniel

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 16/04/18 04:39:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com


Good question.  There is not much in the source.
However, if you use www.hayneedleinc.com it works.
My guess is that the website itself redirects to hayneedleinc but it 
does not work with

my versions SM or FS.  It does work with IE11.

Clicking either link works for me. The second link gives a "This page is 
only partially encrypted  " type warning!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread WaltS48

On 4/15/18 3:50 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

Ed Mullen composed on 2018-04-15 11:16 (UTC-0400):


Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:



user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");



That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which
is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.


Actual UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.2

Using for general.useragent.override.usps.com:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0 or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0


First string doesn't work, second does, here.



The Firefox browser works here. Y'all enjoy your problems.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread cmcadams

Felix Miata wrote:

Ed Mullen composed on 2018-04-15 11:16 (UTC-0400):


Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:



user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");



That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which
is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.


Actual UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.2

Using for general.useragent.override.usps.com:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0 
or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0


First string doesn't work, second does, here.
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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
Ed Mullen composed on 2018-04-15 11:16 (UTC-0400):

> Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

> user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
> NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");

> That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which 
> is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.

Actual UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.2

Using for general.useragent.override.usps.com:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0 
or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0

and even after deleting cookies I still see:

Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated browsers. To
continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more...

Until I click the read more link and see:

Good news — your browser is up to date.
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Re: Website Blocked?

2018-04-15 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Tom Pamin wrote:

Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com


Good question.  There is not much in the source.
However, if you use www.hayneedleinc.com it works.
My guess is that the website itself redirects to hayneedleinc but it does not 
work with
my versions SM or FS.  It does work with IE11.

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Re: Website Blocked?

2018-04-15 Thread IRRITATING SPAMMER

Tom Pamin wrote:

Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com



I believe I have seen www.hayneedle.com before, and it can only really 
have been because it was mentioned in a thread here.  Since I cannot now 
find the thread, the only sure way of finding it would be to download 
the body of all messages (below a certain size) and I'm not about to do 
that when there are over 100 000 of them.


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Ed Mullen

On 4/15/2018 at 12:28 PM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 4/15/18 11:16 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.






Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites 
which is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.







I get the alert message actually using Firefox 50.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0

Clicking the Read More link informs the user that the site compatible 
versions are "Compatible Versions: 59, 58.0.1".




Even spoofing FF59 will get the initial red banner. If you click Read 
More you'll get this:



Good news — your browser is up to date.

You can continue to access all USPS.com features with your current 
browser version.


Thank you for using USPS.com!


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread WaltS48

On 4/15/18 11:16 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.






Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which 
is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.







I get the alert message actually using Firefox 50.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0

Clicking the Read More link informs the user that the site compatible 
versions are "Compatible Versions: 59, 58.0.1".


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Ed Mullen
On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read 
more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about 
to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for 
about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a 
pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for certain 
websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which 
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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 15-04-18 12:32:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.


USPS says they require versions 59, 58.0.1 of Firefox. Easily done -- 
just lie to them (spoof FF by changing your user agent string). Lots 
of ways to do it if you want to, just ask around.



SO the best and esay way id that SM MUST, BY DEFAULT, use this UAstring
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0

instead tof this UAstring:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


THEREFORE ALL PROBLEMS about supported browsers WILL DISSAPEAR 

Because the browser engine IS FireFox AND NOT SeaMonkey.


We're right here, we can hear you fine, no need to SHOUT.

Since they require Firefox version 58.0.1 or above, I doubt that saying 
"Firefox/52.0" will work. That's why I suggested a user agent switcher.


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Ray_Net

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 15-04-18 12:32:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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USPS says they require versions 59, 58.0.1 of Firefox. Easily done -- 
just lie to them (spoof FF by changing your user agent string). Lots 
of ways to do it if you want to, just ask around.



SO the best and esay way id that SM MUST, BY DEFAULT, use this UAstring
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0

instead tof this UAstring:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


THEREFORE ALL PROBLEMS about supported browsers WILL DISSAPEAR 

Because the browser engine IS FireFox AND NOT SeaMonkey.
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Re: Website Blocked?

2018-04-15 Thread Tom Pamin

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com


Not from SeaMonkey, WFM.

AV program, firewall, etc.? Does the message name its source?

No, I just get that message in the upper left. Works OK in IE and on my 
laptop. Only does it on my desktop.


Windows 7 with MS Security Essentials.
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Re: Website Blocked?

2018-04-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Tom Pamin wrote:


Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com


Not from SeaMonkey, WFM.

AV program, firewall, etc.? Does the message name its source?

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read 
more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about 
to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for 
about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a 
pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for certain 
websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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USPS says they require versions 59, 58.0.1 of Firefox. Easily done -- 
just lie to them (spoof FF by changing your user agent string). Lots of 
ways to do it if you want to, just ask around.


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Website Blocked?

2018-04-15 Thread Tom Pamin

Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Mozilla User wrote:

First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to track my 
packages
through USPS using SeaMonkey.

When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated browsers. To 
continue
access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more ›

:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about to 
come to an
end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for about 15 years, but 
now I guess
I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching 
between
browsers for certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.

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Add a new UA string.
My SM works just fine.  YouTube works, YahooMail works.
More than likely my SM will continue to work with USPS.
I sent a package last week and have been tracking it.
I don't get the message that you get.
Please dump the virus spam advertising.

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USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-04-15 Thread Mozilla User
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read 
more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about 
to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for 
about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a 
pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for certain 
websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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