Re: American Express web site not working properly with SM 2.48

2018-05-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

GerardJan wrote:


¿ what the hack is AX ? (I am not a native american)


Must be "American Express."
("X" is often used as shorthand for words that begin with "ex-")

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Re: Printers in About:Config

2018-05-01 Thread NFN Smith

Tom Pamin wrote:
What causes printer information to be written to about:config? I have 2 
printers, and 2 of my 3 PC's show printer info for both PC's in 
about:config. My other PC only shows info for my default printer and has 
no entries for the other printer. Both printers do work with this PC 
though.



Probably what's showing up are printers that you've actually printed to 
from from Seamonkey.


For printers that don't show up in about:config (actually, the 
underlying prefs.js file), it's probable that you've not printed to them 
from Seamonkey.


My own profile is years old, and I have a number of printers there that 
I may have printed a handful of pages to, that I'll never see again.  I 
need to go through the profile and delete those.


Smith
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Re: Is it me or are installed extensions not getting updates anymore?

2018-05-01 Thread NFN Smith

EE wrote:

Ant wrote:

I have these currently installed in my SeaMonkey v2.49.2 web browsers:
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.16.1-signed 
(http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)

* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.13.8 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)

Is it because developers moved onto the new Gecko engine? :( Thank you 
in advnace. :)


I have not seen any updates in themes or extensions for over a year. The 
ones I have still work, however (I did have to add a certain file to my 
themes to get the mail compose window to work).



I've seen a few updates, by developers that are keeping their work going 
as long as Firefox 52.x ESR is still viable.


I have found that in the first couple of months after FF 57 was 
released, there were a few developers doing updates to both WebEx and 
XUL versions, particularly NoScript. I checked, and there's regular 
WebEx updates to NoScript, and it's now been several months since 
there's been an XUL update.


For PrefBar (and I've been enthusiastic about that one for years), if 
you go to the developer's page, it's explicit that that one is dead, and 
there will be no further updates.  The page does indicate that many of 
the functions (but not all) are replicated in various other WebEx 
extensions.


One of the things I did at the time of Firefox 56 is that I installed 
copies of both 56 as well as the beta of 57 (in separate install 
folders, and separate profiles). On 56, I installed all the extensions I 
follow, both for Firefox and for Seamonkey, so that I could see how they 
behave in transition from 56 to 57.  And in the beta (which I continue 
to keep active, now running 60.0 b4) I've been using that for testing, 
to see what WebEx offerings will do what I want.


With the 56 to 57 transition, I found that there were a handful of 
developers that allowed for automatic transition for XUL to WebEx 
versions. For other extensions, I found either new projects, or 
work-alike, and I've found that I can get WebEx to do most of what I 
want, although there's still a couple of things where I'm still 
evaluating options.  Thus, although Seamonkey is still some ways away 
from the transition to WebEx, I'm mostly comfortable with the options. 
The hard part, of course is going to be waiting until Seamonkey makes 
that transition.


For what it's worth, I'm doing the same kind of testing with 
Thunderbird, with a beta of 60.0. A check of Thunderbird documentation 
indicates that Thunderbird is not yet moving to WebEx -- and although TB 
60 will still be XUL based, existing extensions must have tweaking for 
explicit support of TB 60. Thus, if the extension hasn't been tweaked, 
it will not run in TB 60.  From my testing, I follow about 20 TB 
extensions, and in my beta installation, about 3/4 of those extensions 
are disabled because the current versions aren't (yet) updated for 60.


I'm not yet sure what the consequences of this development will be for 
Seamonkey.


I should note that do follow the meeting notes for the Seamonkey 
developers (latest agenda at 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2018-04-22), and it's 
a useful insight to see where things stand with development progress. I 
know that there is some interaction with the Thunderbird development 
group (beyond use of Thunderbird code for Seamonkey's mail client), 
including possible coordination between the two projects in shifting 
away from reliance on Mozilla infrastructure for hosting, and there's a 
bit of interaction there, as well, regarding coordinating of add-ons 
structure.


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Re: Incompatible with old Gecko web browsers like SeaMonkey and Firefox?

2018-05-01 Thread NFN Smith

Ant wrote:
https://recyclenation.com/find/ seems to be incompatible with SeaMonkey 
v2.49.2 and Firefox v52 web browsers. I tried disable my uBlock Origin 
extension, enabled send referrer, and changing my user agents (even 
IE11). No problems in IE11. :(


Thank you in advance. :)



I'm having no problems with that site, after I enable scripts blocked by 
NoScript.


For that kind of problem, it's not that Seamonkey is a problem, and I 
don't even believe that the browser showing that it's Firefox, either.


More likely is going to be issues in your profile.  It's worth giving 
Safe Mode a try, and see how that works. Doing a full profile reset (one 
of the options of Safe Mode) may be useful, but I've found that 
occasionally, a balky profile can be cleared by a one-time start in Safe 
Mode.


One of the things that I do for testing (especially this kind of 
condition) is to keep a separate profile that I call "bare metal", where 
nearly all the settings are default.  Although Safe Mode does things 
nicely, it's sometimes useful to try the bare metal profile. I can't 
remember a time when the bare metal has failed to work.  When that does, 
it pretty conclusively tells me that my problem is profile-related, and 
not Seamonkey.


BTW, resist the urge to do an uninstall/reinstall -- that might have 
been something to do in the era of XP, but with Vista and later, Windows 
is much more stable, and far less vulnerable to crashes (and subsequent 
corruption of the registry).  Unless you have concrete reason to suspect 
registry entries or corruption of program binaries, a reinstall is 
unlikely to do anything except consume time, assuming that you don't 
allow the uninstall to delete all your user data.  Otherwise, a 
reinstall will simply behave the same way, because the problem is coming 
from the undisturbed profile.


Smith

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