Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

2018-09-01 Thread GerardJan 

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/1/2018 1:38 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If retirement isn't for education what use is it?


Very good.  Retirement is also the best work of all.



I am retired, my one man company is
/Veuniks IT/
from the society of the /Delfts Studenten Corps/

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No sent folder

2018-09-01 Thread Mike C 

Why don't I have a sent folder?
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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

2018-09-01 Thread David E. Ross 
On 9/1/2018 1:38 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> If retirement isn't for education what use is it?

Very good.  Retirement is also the best work of all.

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Re: F11

2018-09-01 Thread David E. Ross 
On 9/1/2018 8:42 AM, Roger Fink wrote:
> It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go 
> into full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, 
> SM 2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I get a reduced tool bar but only if my cursor is at the top of the
monitor screen.

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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

2018-09-01 Thread Richard Owlett 

On 09/01/2018 01:49 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/1/2018 10:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
[ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
My goals include:
1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
   a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
   b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
   c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
2. find and purge duplicates.
3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].

An outline of my procedure is:
   1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
   2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
   3. create HTML file described above.
   4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
   5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
  Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
   6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
[requires having done
  jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
]

Comments?



[method snipped]

Long ago, I realized that I wanted to see my bookmarks more often than
any Web page.  I set the preference variable
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to True.  Actually, I have
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment, to
remind me why I did this.)  Every time I terminate SeaMonkey, my
bookmarks are automatically exported to the file bookmarks.html in my
profile.

In the userContent.css file in the chrome folder in my profile, I added
url("file:///xxx")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where "xxx" is the complete path to the file bookmarks.html.  (If you do
not have a userContent.css file, copy the file userContent-example.css
to make a userContent.css file.)

Using [Edit > Preferences > Browser], I set the radio button to "Home
page" for all three "Display on" selections and the same complete path
to the file bookmarks.html as above (including the file:/// but without
the quotation marks) in the input area "Clicking the home button takes
you to this group of pages".

All this gives me a nicely formatted display of my bookmarks.  Folder
names are bold.  Folder contents are indented, and subfolder contents
are indented farther.

Also, I do intentionally have some duplicate bookmarks.  When I create
them, I set duplicate tags for them.  This is not quite as good as the
old Netscape browser capability of creating a shortcut for a bookmark.
With that capability, changing a bookmark automatically changed the
shortcut.



If I understand, you have described how to have avoided the mess I'm in 
[i.e.  My bookmarks grew like Topsy resulting in > 300 folders and >5000 
bookmarks. ]


I have a profile set aside for experimentation. I posted the same code 
over on comp.lang.tcl and received several suggestions which will 
require research to understand. I'll try to implement what you outlined. 
Whether or not I succeed I'll live up to a tag line I've used:

"If retirement isn't for education what use is it?"


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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

2018-09-01 Thread David E. Ross 
On 9/1/2018 10:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
> [ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
> I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
> My goals include:
>1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
>   a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
>   b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
>   c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
>2. find and purge duplicates.
>3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.
> 
> Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].
> 
> An outline of my procedure is:
>   1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
>   2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
>   3. create HTML file described above.
>   4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
>   5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
>  Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
>   6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.
> 
> The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
> [requires having done
>  jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
> ]
> 
> Comments?
> 

[method snipped]

Long ago, I realized that I wanted to see my bookmarks more often than
any Web page.  I set the preference variable
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to True.  Actually, I have
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment, to
remind me why I did this.)  Every time I terminate SeaMonkey, my
bookmarks are automatically exported to the file bookmarks.html in my
profile.

In the userContent.css file in the chrome folder in my profile, I added
   url("file:///xxx")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where "xxx" is the complete path to the file bookmarks.html.  (If you do
not have a userContent.css file, copy the file userContent-example.css
to make a userContent.css file.)

Using [Edit > Preferences > Browser], I set the radio button to "Home
page" for all three "Display on" selections and the same complete path
to the file bookmarks.html as above (including the file:/// but without
the quotation marks) in the input area "Clicking the home button takes
you to this group of pages".

All this gives me a nicely formatted display of my bookmarks.  Folder
names are bold.  Folder contents are indented, and subfolder contents
are indented farther.

Also, I do intentionally have some duplicate bookmarks.  When I create
them, I set duplicate tags for them.  This is not quite as good as the
old Netscape browser capability of creating a shortcut for a bookmark.
With that capability, changing a bookmark automatically changed the
shortcut.

-- 
David E. Ross


Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit.  Examples include Donald
Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk.
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Re: F11

2018-09-01 Thread WaltS48 

Roger Fink wrote:
It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go 
into full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, 
SM 2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?


Pressing F11 retains the Navigation Toolbar here on Ubuntu Linux.
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Re: F11

2018-09-01 Thread GerardJan 

GerardJan wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:
It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go into 
full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, SM 
2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?


F11 does nothing on my fedora (redhat) desktop in SM 2.29.4


I am sorry I looked in the mail part
F11 goes into full screen another F11 restores the toolbars

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Re: F11

2018-09-01 Thread Roger Fink 

On 9/1/2018 1:33 PM, Roger Fink wrote:

On 9/1/2018 12:29 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:


It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go
into full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer
(Win7, SM 2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?


On my 2.49.4, I lose all the toolbars except the Navigation Bar (the one
with the location). Another F11 restores them.



That's my experience as well.
I just noticed that F11 on Pale Moon leaves the navbar as well. On the
older style Firefox (52.9.0), F11 gives you a true full screen.


Revision: On Pale Moon SOMETIMES toggling F11 gives you a true full 
screen, other times the navbar remains. (must be an AI thing)

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Re: F11

2018-09-01 Thread Roger Fink 

On 9/1/2018 12:29 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:


It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go
into full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer
(Win7, SM 2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?


On my 2.49.4, I lose all the toolbars except the Navigation Bar (the one
with the location). Another F11 restores them.



That's my experience as well.
I just noticed that F11 on Pale Moon leaves the navbar as well. On the 
older style Firefox (52.9.0), F11 gives you a true full screen.

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Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

2018-09-01 Thread Richard Owlett 

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
[ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
My goals include:
  1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
 a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
 b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
 c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
  2. find and purge duplicates.
  3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].

An outline of my procedure is:
 1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
 2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
 3. create HTML file described above.
 4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
 5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
 6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
[requires having done
jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
]

Comments?





# Input is SeaMonkey bookmark file pretty printed with "jq"

set infile  "prettytestalpha.json"
set outfile "alphatest.html"

set fd_in  [open $infile  r]
set fd_out  [open $outfile w]

# set predefined values
set children"\"child"
set uri "\"uri\":"
set title   "\"title"
set rbracket\]
set mylist [list $children $title $uri $rbracket]

# to be used at start of page of HTML
set preface {

PREalpha pretty bookmarks


PREalpha pretty bookmarks
}
set postlude {
}


# a reminder of how to format a clickable link
# $title


set myline  0
set outline 0
set indent   ""
set plusindent  " "
set sth1 ""
set enh1 ""
set aheading0   ;# used to flag if $title is section label when 
=1

puts $fd_out $preface
while { ! [eof $fd_in] } {
  incr line
  gets $fd_in b_line
  set a_line [string trimleft $b_line]
  set c_line [string range $a_line 0 5]

  set x  [lsearch $mylist $c_line]
  if { ($x >= 0) } then {

switch $x {
  0 {set indent $indent$plusindent; set aheading 1;}
  1 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 9];
 set a_line [string replace $a_line end-1 end];
 set title $a_line;
 if $aheading then {puts $fd_out "$sth1$indent$a_line$enh1";
 set aheading 0; incr myline}}
  2 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 6];
puts $fd_out "$indent  $title";
incr outline }
  3 {set indent [string replace $indent end-4 end];}
  }
 }
}


puts $fd_out "There are $myline folders"
puts $fd_out "There are $outline bookmarks"

puts $fd_out $postlude
close $fd_in
close $fd_out

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Re: F11

2018-09-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Roger Fink wrote:

It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go 
into full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, 
SM 2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?


On my 2.49.4, I lose all the toolbars except the Navigation Bar (the one 
with the location). Another F11 restores them.


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Re: F11

2018-09-01 Thread GerardJan 

Roger Fink wrote:
It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go into full 
screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, SM 2.49.4). Is 
that the way it's supposed to work now?


F11 does nothing on my fedora (redhat) desktop in SM 2.29.4

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F11

2018-09-01 Thread Roger Fink 
It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go 
into full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, 
SM 2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?

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