Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

[GerardJan]

EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote on 11/09/2018 2:05 PM:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Whenever you guys get around to it, Edmund, that will be fine!!

Make sure you guys have a life outside SeaMonkey!! ;-)


I do, at least.  I have Pale Moon as well!



an I have icecat, but i do not use it

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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

[GerardJan]

Ant wrote:

On 9/10/2018 10:37 PM, Wolf wrote:

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Wish you luck and please keep going!!!


Ditto! SM 4ever! :D


:P \:P


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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 9/10/2018 10:37 PM, Wolf wrote:

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Wish you luck and please keep going!!!


Ditto! SM 4ever! :D
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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

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On 9/11/2018 1:39 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 11/09/2018 06:05, Edmund Wong wrote:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


May our gratitude express all your virtues!!!
I'm and old user since Netscape Communicator & I'm delighted with 
SeaMonkey.

Your work is part of History.
Viva Mozilla!!


Ditto. I remember using Netscape since v2.x back in college! :O
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Re: Future of seamonkey: support newsgroups

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On 9/11/2018 4:06 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:

It seems Seamonkey is moving away from Mozilla infrastructure.

Does anybody know if there will be changes regarding the current support
newsgroups at news.mozilla.org?

(This newsgroup (netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey) is not controlled in
any way by mozilla, is it?)


This excellent question would had been better to asked in active 
mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup, so I crossposted it.

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

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On 9/11/2018 10:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 09/11/2018 12:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
>>> Had problems with my WinXP machine.
>>> Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
>>> Are we describing the same thing.
>>> I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
>>> If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
>>> TIA
>>
>> mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.
>>
> 
> Wouldn't this thread be OT there?
> 
> 
> 

You can get the file from .
Let me know when you have downloaded the file so that I can then delete
it from my Web site.

Note that my profile is in a non-standard location.  Thus, the path to
my bookmarks.html file is non-standard.

However, the HTML file you provided seemed to have hierarchical
indentation the way you described.

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Re: SeaMonkey web site problem?

[Mort Linder]

As usual, I click onto the SeaMonkey blue icon. Although it says that 
SeaMonkey can't be found, typing in URLs does get me the correct pages. 
Confusing.


Mort Linder




WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/11/18 4:49 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

  When I click onto SeaMonkey, my Windows 7 laptop cannot find it. 
Yet, when I type an URL into the upper toolbar,it works.


What is happening?



When you launch SeaMonkey it goes to a home page you configured, but 
when you click the link for SeaMonkey it can't find it?


Or is the home page a SeaMonkey page?

SeaMonkey moved to new infrastructure and is most likely coded to go to 
the site on the old infrastructure.


When you type the URL it finds the site on the new infrastructure.

That's my theory. I don't currently have any SeaMonkey installations to 
test that theory.





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Re: SeaMonkey web site problem?

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On 9/11/18 4:49 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

  When I click onto SeaMonkey, my Windows 7 laptop cannot find it. Yet, 
when I type an URL into the upper toolbar,it works.


What is happening?



When you launch SeaMonkey it goes to a home page you configured, but 
when you click the link for SeaMonkey it can't find it?


Or is the home page a SeaMonkey page?

SeaMonkey moved to new infrastructure and is most likely coded to go to 
the site on the old infrastructure.


When you type the URL it finds the site on the new infrastructure.

That's my theory. I don't currently have any SeaMonkey installations to 
test that theory.


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Re: SeaMonkey web site problem?

[Edmund Wong]

Mort Linder wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  When I click onto SeaMonkey, my Windows 7 laptop cannot find it. Yet,
> when I type an URL into the upper toolbar,it works.
> 
> What is happening?
> 

Short form:
I happened. I goofed. I fixed.

Long Form:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/12/website-is-up-down-up-what/

This morning, I got an email that the dns was changed and was now
pointing to the new website.   Yay!  I went to the website and upon
seeing that error message, I freaked.  Well. Not really freaked, but
... well.. yeah.. semi-freaked?

Anyway, it's back up.

Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

Edmund



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Re: Preference problems?

[EE]

Richard Owlett wrote:
I've several problems whose only common feature is they have appeared 
recently.


1. When I go about:config the column for preference name is missing and 
it is not listed in the little drop down menu on the right side.


2. In mail/newsgroups folder names were in red if there were unread 
messages in the folder. Now there is only a tiny green arrow if there 
are unread message.


3. I've forgotten how to force a default font size in the body of a 
message. My web search has been poor.


For font size, you can go into about:config and type "font" into the 
search box (without the quotes).  There you will see a long list of 
fonts whose sizes you can change.

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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote on 11/09/2018 2:05 PM:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Whenever you guys get around to it, Edmund, that will be fine!!

Make sure you guys have a life outside SeaMonkey!! ;-)


I do, at least.  I have Pale Moon as well!

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF moving 
from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now call the 
Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Can the old Adblock Plus still use the subscriptions?  If it still 
works, keep using it, unless you want to switch to uBlock Origin, which 
can block more things.  There is still a legacy version of that which 
works with SeaMonkey and Pale Moon as well.

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SeaMonkey web site problem?

[Mort Linder]

Hi,

 When I click onto SeaMonkey, my Windows 7 laptop cannot find it. Yet, 
when I type an URL into the upper toolbar,it works.


What is happening?

Mort Linder

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Ed Mullen]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/11/2018 12:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.



Wouldn't this thread be OT there?





Well, yes, but I'm not suggesting putting the entire thread there, just 
a post with the image/attachment.


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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/11/2018 12:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.



Wouldn't this thread be OT there?



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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/11/2018 11:58 AM, GerardJan wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/11/2018 7:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 01:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 10:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks
my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500
bookmarks in
 >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two 
problems.


The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only
enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the
following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
 /*  Indent folders */
 @-moz-document
 url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
 { body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
 h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to
bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
 user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
 // automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to
remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref
statement
is mandatory.)



I copied those into the appropriate files.
NOTHING happened :<




Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?



Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a troubles>

post.

The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no 
effect.

I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no
HTML file on shutdown.

Having been in customer service  for decades, I
suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the
appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/

I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so 
that's not

the problem.

I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 
years.

Is there a bug I would not have noticed?

I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test 
cases. I
*DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was 
thus

going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.

Suggestions welcome :}

P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/




Entries and changes to user.js have no effect until you completely
terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it unless, of course, you edit
user.js while SeaMonkey is already terminated.  (It is possible 
that the
same might be true of userChrome.css.)  Then, the automatic export 
from

places.sqlite to bookmarks.html occurs the next time (and each time
thereafter) you terminate SeaMonkey.

Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using 
SeaMonkey

under windows.  There might be differences.



*ROFL*
I've ancient copy of WinXP Pro on another machine.
I'll investigate permutations tomorrow ;/




Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


The HTML fragment you attached actually came through!  Usually,
attachments are stripped away in the Mozilla newsgroups.

Your fragment is exactly what I get and what I want.  So you might
indeed be correct in thinking that I do not understand what you want.



¿ why would you use 500 bookmarks ???



Have you heard of Murphy? 
I'd have multiple tabs open.
Some of those had been loaded via bookmarks.
Some hadn't.
When time did not encourage a saner option, I created a *nominally* 
temporary folder.

See why this started as an effort to remove duplicate bookmarks? 



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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[GerardJan]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM


talking about confusion, this is *infusion* !


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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

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Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.


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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

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Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 11-09-18 15:33:

Webextension support is planned for 2.57.



Thanks for giving me a hope to stay with SM.


there is always hope

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[GerardJan]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/11/2018 7:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 01:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 10:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks
my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500
bookmarks in
     >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only
enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the
following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
 /*  Indent folders */
 @-moz-document
     url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
     { body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
 h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to
bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
 user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
 // automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to
remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref
statement
is mandatory.)



I copied those into the appropriate files.
NOTHING happened :<




Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?



Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a 
post.

The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no effect.
I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no
HTML file on shutdown.

Having been in customer service  for decades, I
suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the
appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/

I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so that's not
the problem.

I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 years.
Is there a bug I would not have noticed?

I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test cases. I
*DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was thus
going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.

Suggestions welcome :}

P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/




Entries and changes to user.js have no effect until you completely
terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it unless, of course, you edit
user.js while SeaMonkey is already terminated.  (It is possible that the
same might be true of userChrome.css.)  Then, the automatic export from
places.sqlite to bookmarks.html occurs the next time (and each time
thereafter) you terminate SeaMonkey.

Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using SeaMonkey
under windows.  There might be differences.



*ROFL*
I've ancient copy of WinXP Pro on another machine.
I'll investigate permutations tomorrow ;/




Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


The HTML fragment you attached actually came through!  Usually,
attachments are stripped away in the Mozilla newsgroups.

Your fragment is exactly what I get and what I want.  So you might
indeed be correct in thinking that I do not understand what you want.



¿ why would you use 500 bookmarks ???

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Ray_Net]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 11-09-18 15:33:

Webextension support is planned for 2.57.



Thanks for giving me a hope to stay with SM.
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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/11/2018 10:06 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/11/2018 7:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the
following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
 /*  Indent folders */
 @-moz-document
     url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
     { body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
 h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.
[snip]


Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?



Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
[snip]

Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using SeaMonkey
under windows.  There might be differences.



*ROFL*
I've ancient copy of WinXP Pro on another machine.
I'll investigate permutations tomorrow ;/




Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


The HTML fragment you attached actually came through!  Usually,
attachments are stripped away in the Mozilla newsgroups.

Your fragment is exactly what I get and what I want.  So you might
indeed be correct in thinking that I do not understand what you want.



The key feature of interest to me are visually apparent multiple levels 
of indentation. I don't see that when using your css.


I cut-n-pasted what I saw in your post.
Do we have a line-wrap artifact?
Could you send me, BY ATTACHMENT, your css file.
[I'll have to insert the url for my bookmarks.html]
Then we'll see if my windows machine likes it ;/
TIA



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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[David E. Ross]

On 9/11/2018 7:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 09/05/2018 01:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 9/5/2018 10:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
 On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
 I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks 
 my way.
 I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 
 bookmarks in
     >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

 The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
 The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

 I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only 
 enough
 to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

 Suggestions?


>>>
>>> My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the 
>>> following
>>> in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
>>> /*  Indent folders */
>>> @-moz-document
>>>     url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
>>>     { body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
>>> h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
>>> where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.
>>>
>>> I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to 
>>> bookmarks.html
>>> every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
>>> switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
>>> relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
>>> user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
>>> // automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
>>> in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to 
>>> remind
>>> me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref 
>>> statement
>>> is mandatory.)
>>>
>>
>> I copied those into the appropriate files.
>> NOTHING happened :<
>>
>>
>
> Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
> file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?
>

 Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
 I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a 
 post.

 The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no effect.
 I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no
 HTML file on shutdown.

 Having been in customer service  for decades, I
 suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the
 appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/

 I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so that's not
 the problem.

 I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 years.
 Is there a bug I would not have noticed?

 I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test cases. I
 *DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was thus
 going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.

 Suggestions welcome :}

 P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/


>>>
>>> Entries and changes to user.js have no effect until you completely
>>> terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it unless, of course, you edit
>>> user.js while SeaMonkey is already terminated.  (It is possible that the
>>> same might be true of userChrome.css.)  Then, the automatic export from
>>> places.sqlite to bookmarks.html occurs the next time (and each time
>>> thereafter) you terminate SeaMonkey.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using SeaMonkey
>>> under windows.  There might be differences.
>>>
>>
>> *ROFL*
>> I've ancient copy of WinXP Pro on another machine.
>> I'll investigate permutations tomorrow ;/
>>
>>
> 
> Had problems with my WinXP machine.
> Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
> Are we describing the same thing.
> I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
> If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
> TIA

The HTML fragment you attached actually came through!  Usually,
attachments are stripped away in the Mozilla newsgroups.

Your fragment is exactly what I get and what I want.  So you might
indeed be correct in thinking that I do not understand what you want.

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[David E. Ross]

On 9/11/2018 5:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:
>> Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
>>> but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM
>>>
>>> Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.
>>>
>>> Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can 
>>> be loaded/used by SM ?
>>>
>>> Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?
>>
>> Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF 
>> moving from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now 
>> call the Webextension format.
>>
>> SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
>> lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!
> 
> Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF 
> and TB exclusively ?
> 

Or you can stick with SeaMonkey.  I continued to use Eudora Lite for
E-mail long after it was no longer being updated.  I switched to
Thunderbird only when I was forced to change E-mail hosts, and Eudora
Lite could not be configured to use the new host.  That was about 7
years after the release of the last version of Eudora Lite.

The problem with Webextensions is that not all of the capabilities of
the 28 .xpi extensions that I now have -- and use - in SeaMonkey exist
in Webextensions.  The most serious lack is PrefBar, whose developer
indicates cannot be replicated as a Webextension.  He has made several
separate Webextensions to cover some of the PrefBar capabilities, but he
asserts that some just cannot be done.

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 01:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 10:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks 
my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 
bookmarks in

    >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only 
enough

to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the 
following

in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
/*  Indent folders */
@-moz-document
    url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
    { body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to 
bookmarks.html

every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to 
remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref 
statement

is mandatory.)



I copied those into the appropriate files.
NOTHING happened :<




Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?



Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a 
post.

The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no effect.
I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no
HTML file on shutdown.

Having been in customer service  for decades, I
suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the
appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/

I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so that's not
the problem.

I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 years.
Is there a bug I would not have noticed?

I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test cases. I
*DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was thus
going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.

Suggestions welcome :}

P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/




Entries and changes to user.js have no effect until you completely
terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it unless, of course, you edit
user.js while SeaMonkey is already terminated.  (It is possible that the
same might be true of userChrome.css.)  Then, the automatic export from
places.sqlite to bookmarks.html occurs the next time (and each time
thereafter) you terminate SeaMonkey.

Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using SeaMonkey
under windows.  There might be differences.



*ROFL*
I've ancient copy of WinXP Pro on another machine.
I'll investigate permutations tomorrow ;/




Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA



Title: scratchtest bookmarks



scratch bookmarks


Bookmarks Menu

Recently Bookmarked
Recently Bookmarked

mozilla.org

About Mozilla
About Mozilla



DuckDuckGo
DuckDuckGo


Debian --\n  The Universal Operating System level Ia
Debian --\n  The Universal Operating System level Ia
modified titles- Debian Wiki\n  level Ib
Debian\n  Pure Blends level Ic

linux\n  pda at DuckDuckGo level IIa
linux\n  pda at DuckDuckGo level IIa
Linux\n  PDA mor mods level IIb
How\n  Do I Get PdaNet to Connect to Linux? | Techwalla.com\n  level IIc
Linux\n  on a PDA : does worth it ? level IId




There are 7 folders
There are 10 bookmarks


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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[WaltS48]

On 9/11/18 8:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can 
be loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF 
moving from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now 
call the Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF 
and TB exclusively ?


TB also doesn't support web extensions, but it is planned for a future 
release.


There is a tracking bug for support in SeaMonkey.





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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Webextension support is planned for 2.57.

> Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF and 
TB exclusively ?


The first one becomes a permanent construction site with a more primitive ui 
in each version and functionality loss and the second one struggles too but is 
so far able to keep up. So have fun if you go this way.


FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF moving 
from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now call the 
Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the lack 
of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF and TB 
exclusively ?

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can 
be loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF 
moving from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now 
call the Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF 
and TB exclusively ?

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Re: how do I do a screen shot

[Smiles]

thanks

Felix Miata wrote:

Smiles composed on 2018-09-10 07:24 (UTC-0400):


I have to do two short note for a young man with CP but when I select
the view menu I can not take a screen  shot of the options



any suggestions please


Use a time delay with the screen shooter? I use KSnapshot.
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/smViewMenu.png


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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

[Daniel]

Edmund Wong wrote on 11/09/2018 2:05 PM:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Whenever you guys get around to it, Edmund, that will be fine!!

Make sure you guys have a life outside SeaMonkey!! ;-)

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF moving 
from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now call the 
Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!

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Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

[Alex Beauroy]

On 11/09/2018 06:05, Edmund Wong wrote:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


May our gratitude express all your virtues!!!
I'm and old user since Netscape Communicator & I'm delighted with SeaMonkey.
Your work is part of History.
Viva Mozilla!!

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What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Ray_Net]

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?
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