Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

Questions:
1. What is fixed in v2.49.5 from v2.49.4?
2. Is there a 
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.win64.zip somewhere?



On 10/12/2018 8:09 PM, Ant wrote:
Thanks! I do use the updated Flash plugins from Adobe. Flash is rarely 
used though. Oops, I meant to say UNofficial 64-bit. :(



On 10/12/2018 1:26 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
You can have both x86 and x64 installed. There is no 64 Bit official 
2.49 available. Everything Windows x64 is unoffical. 2.49.5 has fixes 
over 2.49.4 but the profiles are interchangable. Extensions should 
work in both versions. The x64 version only supports Flash if you 
still use plugins. It will update DOMi to 2.0.17.2. I never found the 
time to put the updated version on AMO.


If unsure do a profile backup and just try it. I also use NoScript 
5.1.9 together with uBlock 1.16.4.4. You memory problems might well be 
tracker and third party scripts running amok.


FRG

Ant wrote:
I can't have both 32-bit official (EXE installer) and and 64-bit 
official (portable zip file) installed at the same time? I know I 
can't run both of them at the same time. Also, will my old extensions 
still work in the 64-bit portable version? Here is what I have right 
now:


Last updated: Fri Oct 12 2018 11:19:44 GMT-0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


Extensions (enabled: 5)
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.16.1-signed 
(http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) (disabled)

* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.16.4.4 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)
* uBlock Origin Updater 1.6.4 
(https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/)



On 10/12/2018 1:43 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I have seen SeaMonkey hit a GB or 2 but not much more. I hope we are 
able to provide an x64 Windows build soon after the new infra is 
ready. You can try this one if you would like to take a test drive: 
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/
Please uninstall your x86 build first. The profiles are compatible. 
Mapi is not Working in x64 TB and SM Windows builds so send from 
explorer will fail. This is an unofficial build with no warranty but 
most of the the additional backports over 2.49.4 where done by me.


FRG

Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X 
Sierra v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM 
and 500 GB SSD?


2. In my updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1, my 32-bit SM is slow with some 
web sites especially with muliple tabs like on YouTube, Google 
News, LinkedIn, etc. For an example, it can go up to almost 3 GB of 
RAM with about 10 HTML5 YouTube video tabs (not playing all at the 
same time, just buffering them with one video playing). I don't 
have this problem in MBP. I wonder if it is capped at 3 GB of RAM 
since it is a 32-bit process even though I am using a 64-bit OS.


I hope someone can answer my technical questions. Thank you for 
reading. :)

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Re: Can't Download Email from ATT.NET

[Pat Connors]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:
As of oct 19, 2018 I can no longer download my email from the att.net 
server. Anyone else having this problem?


This has been an ongoing problem for those of us that belong to the 
Ancestry Rootsweb Mailing lists but it has to do with ATT vs Rootsweb, 
not Seamonkey.



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Re: My SM profile's storage is big!

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

FYI on my web app settings before I manually deleted everything in my 
storage's directory/folder: https://i.imgur.com/1A0nxwn.gif. :/


On 10/19/2018 9:59 AM, Ant wrote:
Thanks. It looks like manually deleting everything in my profile's 
storage is OK after exiting SM. No different results from what I can 
tell so far?



On 10/19/2018 12:14 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
There is at least one bug report about clear private data not clearing 
everything. I really need to look into it but...


You need to close SeaMonkey.

What I usually do:

removing storage dir
removing storage.*
removing webappsstore.*

Might not be so easy to do this in 2.57 because web extensions 
actually use this but for 2.49.x and 2.53 it is so far fine.
Check the prefs under Advanced->Offline Apps so that not every site 
can put in junk there. This needs an overhaul too and doesn't cover 
everything now. sigh...


FRG

Ant wrote:

Hello.

My 
C:\Users\name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\whatever.default\storage\ 
is big (423 MB) especially in its temporary location (371 MB). How do 
I clear them out? Clearing caches doesn't do anything to it. From 
what I read, it seems to be related to offsite website data, but 
clearing my private data for it didn't work too.


I see stuff since 12/22/2016. I know I installed SM v2.46 back in 
late October 2016 due to a nasty HDD's click of death crash that 
forced me to clean install 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 and all of my softwares 
like SM. :(


Is deleting it in Windows' Explorer without SM running OK/safe or is 
there something else I missed?

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Re: My SM profile's storage is big!

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

Thanks. It looks like manually deleting everything in my profile's 
storage is OK after exiting SM. No different results from what I can 
tell so far?



On 10/19/2018 12:14 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
There is at least one bug report about clear private data not clearing 
everything. I really need to look into it but...


You need to close SeaMonkey.

What I usually do:

removing storage dir
removing storage.*
removing webappsstore.*

Might not be so easy to do this in 2.57 because web extensions actually 
use this but for 2.49.x and 2.53 it is so far fine.
Check the prefs under Advanced->Offline Apps so that not every site can 
put in junk there. This needs an overhaul too and doesn't cover 
everything now. sigh...


FRG

Ant wrote:

Hello.

My 
C:\Users\name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\whatever.default\storage\ 
is big (423 MB) especially in its temporary location (371 MB). How do 
I clear them out? Clearing caches doesn't do anything to it. From what 
I read, it seems to be related to offsite website data, but clearing 
my private data for it didn't work too.


I see stuff since 12/22/2016. I know I installed SM v2.46 back in late 
October 2016 due to a nasty HDD's click of death crash that forced me 
to clean install 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 and all of my softwares like SM. :(


Is deleting it in Windows' Explorer without SM running OK/safe or is 
there something else I missed?


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Re: FF & IE user agent spoofing strings

[chokito]

Win 7 Pro x64 System
My modified user agent string is "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; rv:62.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0 SM" without 'x64' and added SM for me as SeaMonkey. 
Will work without problems on https://www.chase.com/ , 
https://www.google.com/search?q=joyce%27s+craftshop , https://www.netflix.com/ 
, and other sites. My SeaMonkey version is 2.49.5 from 
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/.
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Re: Can't Download Email from ATT.NET

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> As of oct 19, 2018 I can no longer download my email from the att.net 
>> server. Anyone else having
>> this problem?
> 
> I use att.net (actually pop3 yahoo) and do not have any problems down or up.
> SSL/TLS.
> Port 995 in.
> Port 465 out.
> 
Thanks for the confirmation. I re-booted my computer and everything working 
okay now.
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Re: Can't Download Email from ATT.NET

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

As of oct 19, 2018 I can no longer download my email from the att.net server. 
Anyone else having
this problem?


I use att.net (actually pop3 yahoo) and do not have any problems down or up.
SSL/TLS.
Port 995 in.
Port 465 out.

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Can't Download Email from ATT.NET

[Arnie Goetchius]

As of oct 19, 2018 I can no longer download my email from the att.net server. 
Anyone else having
this problem?
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Re: imdb.com: images displaying or not

[Felix Miata]

Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2018-10-19 09:40 (UTC+0200):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Opening any https://www.imdb.com/ page (e.g. 
>> ) using
>> gtk3-built
>> UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
>> SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID:
>> 20180711183816
>> from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.4/linux-x86_64/en-US/
>> no images display except for a (full page) background image.

>> Using any same URL from imdb using gtk2-built 2.49.4-1.22
>> UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
>> SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID:
>> 2018021500
>> from ttp://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
>> all images of any kind display.

>> This is using openSUSE 42.3 with the exact same profile (with CZ, but not 
>> email) for either, and
>> startup commands:

>>  seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for the rpm version in 
>> /usr/bin/seamonkey)
>>  /path/to/seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for mozilla.org version)

>> This is with no user CSS, and these extensions:
>> ChatZilla0.9.93  true
>> Copy As Plain Text   1.0.9.1-signed  true
>> DOM Inspector2.0.17.0true
>> MyDirListing 0.1.201702150300true
>> PDF Viewer   1.5.336 true
>> Preserve Download Modification Timestamp 2011.03.21.22.1-signed.1-signed 
>> true
>> Old Default Image Style  3.0.6.1-signed.1-signed false

>> With another profile, which includes email but not CZ, with NoScript 
>> forbidding scripts, and
>> user CSS, all images load.

>> I'm not sure when this started happening, maybe as much as a month ago. I 
>> also tried
>> mozilla.org's 2.49.3, which misbehaves same as 2.49.4 from mozilla.org. I'm 
>> not aware of any
>> other differences between the openSUSE and mozilla.org builds.

>> Replacing gtk3-branding-openSUSE with gtk3-branding-upstream, and 
>> substituting UA string
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
>> Firefox/52.0 did not help.

>> Mozilla.org's Firefox ESR 52.9 also displays all images.

>> What could cause this inexplicable behavioral difference?

> Fine here in CentOS 7 vm

> https://imgur.com/a/RWXsU16

> You can try Bills build:
> http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/

> Basically has all the backports so far done and a few private wip fixes from 
> me.

Runs, but no help with the problem. :-(

Could there be some GTK3-related thing I need but don't have installed?
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Re: imdb.com: images displaying or not

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Fine here in CentOS 7 vm

https://imgur.com/a/RWXsU16

You can try Bills build:
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/

Basically has all the backports so far done and a few private wip fixes from me.

FRG

Felix Miata wrote:

Opening any https://www.imdb.com/ page (e.g. 
) using
gtk3-built
UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID:
20180711183816
from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.4/linux-x86_64/en-US/
no images display except for a (full page) background image.

Using any same URL from imdb using gtk2-built 2.49.4-1.22
UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4; Build ID:
2018021500
from ttp://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
all images of any kind display.

This is using openSUSE 42.3 with the exact same profile (with CZ, but not 
email) for either, and
startup commands:

seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for the rpm version in 
/usr/bin/seamonkey)
/path/to/seamonkey -no-remote -P profilename (for mozilla.org version)

This is with no user CSS, and these extensions:
ChatZilla   0.9.93  true
Copy As Plain Text  1.0.9.1-signed  true
DOM Inspector   2.0.17.0true
MyDirListing0.1.201702150300true
PDF Viewer  1.5.336 true
Preserve Download Modification Timestamp2011.03.21.22.1-signed.1-signed 
true
Old Default Image Style 3.0.6.1-signed.1-signed false

With another profile, which includes email but not CZ, with NoScript forbidding 
scripts, and
user CSS, all images load.

I'm not sure when this started happening, maybe as much as a month ago. I also 
tried
mozilla.org's 2.49.3, which misbehaves same as 2.49.4 from mozilla.org. I'm not 
aware of any
other differences between the openSUSE and mozilla.org builds.

Replacing gtk3-branding-openSUSE with gtk3-branding-upstream, and substituting 
UA string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
did not help.

Mozilla.org's Firefox ESR 52.9 also displays all images.

What could cause this inexplicable behavioral difference?


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Re: My SM profile's storage is big!

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

There is at least one bug report about clear private data not clearing 
everything. I really need to look into it but...


You need to close SeaMonkey.

What I usually do:

removing storage dir
removing storage.*
removing webappsstore.*

Might not be so easy to do this in 2.57 because web extensions actually use 
this but for 2.49.x and 2.53 it is so far fine.
Check the prefs under Advanced->Offline Apps so that not every site can put in 
junk there. This needs an overhaul too and doesn't cover everything now. sigh...


FRG

Ant wrote:

Hello.

My 
C:\Users\name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\whatever.default\storage\ 
is big (423 MB) especially in its temporary location (371 MB). How do I clear 
them out? Clearing caches doesn't do anything to it. From what I read, it 
seems to be related to offsite website data, but clearing my private data for 
it didn't work too.


I see stuff since 12/22/2016. I know I installed SM v2.46 back in late October 
2016 due to a nasty HDD's click of death crash that forced me to clean install 
64-bit W7 HPE SP1 and all of my softwares like SM. :(


Is deleting it in Windows' Explorer without SM running OK/safe or is there 
something else I missed?


I hope to get an answer soon. :)

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