Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

2019-03-16 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 3/16/2019 12:27 PM, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Ant via support-seamonkey a écrit :

On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote:

This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- 
including 4

for the application FACEBOOK.

It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)

Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?


No. Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are the big memory and CPU hoggers in my 
SeaMonkey usages especially with multiple tabs. I always have to exit 
and relaunch SM to regain them after using these web sites. :(


 Maybe. But I see that Facebook or Linkedin eat less memory when I 
open them on Firefox or Chromium...


SeaMonkey v2.49.4 (basically Firefox v52) is still using old Gecko 
engine compared to the (new/lat)est Firefox web browsers that use 
Quantum. :(

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Re: Browsing in Wary Puppy 5.5

2019-03-16 Thread martinlantink
hello
It is version 2.6.1, When clicking on a video in YouTube is says 'your browser 
does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.'
Innow try to install the latest version SM.
hope it solves the problem.

thanks so far.
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Re: Browsing in Wary Puppy 5.5

2019-03-16 Thread martinlantink
hello, 
thanks for the response.
it is version 2.6.1 I get the feeling now it is kinda old. My pc is also old 
but thats the main reason i'm trying linux. Functions in my car workshop mainly 
to lookup info, check mail and use youtube..

I'm going to try install a newer version, if possible the latest.
Martin
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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

2019-03-16 Thread BERTRAND Joël

Ant via support-seamonkey a écrit :

On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote:

This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- 
including 4

for the application FACEBOOK.

It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)

Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?


No. Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are the big memory and CPU hoggers in my 
SeaMonkey usages especially with multiple tabs. I always have to exit 
and relaunch SM to regain them after using these web sites. :(


	Maybe. But I see that Facebook or Linkedin eat less memory when I open 
them on Firefox or Chromium...


Best regards,

JB
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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

2019-03-16 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote:

This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- including 4
for the application FACEBOOK.

It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)

Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?


No. Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are the big memory and CPU hoggers in my 
SeaMonkey usages especially with multiple tabs. I always have to exit 
and relaunch SM to regain them after using these web sites. :(

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Re: Fix for incorrect google search box

2019-03-16 Thread EE

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
As mentioned here several times before, I find Google services (at 
least search and maps) work best in SeaMonkey with "Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility" disabled, and exhibit those sort of issues with text 
input and menus when it's enabled.


Thanks. Disabling "advertise Firefox compatibility" restored the normal 
Google search box.


To turn off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" go to 
Preferences->advanced->Http Networking.  Uncheck "advertise Firefox 
compatibility".


There is another possibility.  You can use an override aimed at only one 
site.  For using Dailymotion with SeaMonkey, I set up this in about:config:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.dailymotion.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0");


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Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

2019-03-16 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Found the Norton!


That has nothing to do the OP's issue. All that Norton logo means is
they use Norton for website PCI Compliance testing to insure security
for the credit card industry. I use Trustwave on my site, doesn't have
any effect on how the site is displayed of any filtering.

OP's more likely issue is a plugin or profile setting issue. Should try
safemode first and then a temporary new profile to test and see if the
problem resolves.


Going by his first post I thought that Norton was on his comp and 
interfering with loading parts of the website.  He corrected me in a 
further post that the Norton is on the web site.  I had never noticed it 
before in the lower right corner.


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Re: Browsing in Wary Puppy 5.5

2019-03-16 Thread WaltS48

On 3/16/19 12:20 PM, Edward wrote:

SeaMonkey is also available with Fedora.





Well, I stand corrected.

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Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

2019-03-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little
Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> 
> Found the Norton!

That has nothing to do the OP's issue. All that Norton logo means is
they use Norton for website PCI Compliance testing to insure security
for the credit card industry. I use Trustwave on my site, doesn't have
any effect on how the site is displayed of any filtering.

OP's more likely issue is a plugin or profile setting issue. Should try
safemode first and then a temporary new profile to test and see if the
problem resolves.

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Re: Browsing in Wary Puppy 5.5

2019-03-16 Thread Edward

SeaMonkey is also available with Fedora.



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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

2019-03-16 Thread NFN Smith

j...@comcast.com wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:23:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote:

This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- including 4
for the application FACEBOOK.

It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)

Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?




The amount of memory used by any browser reflect the following:
*   how many tabs are open
*   how complex are the Web pages
*   what scripts are running in the Web pages
*   what extensions are active


That's always the case with memory usage.  In my own usage, I find hangs 
and slow response happening when there's a lot of scripting active. I 
admit that I run a lot of extensions, but some of them are likely to 
have memory leaks.  I've also found that if I leave Seamonkey open 
overnight, the following morning, the performance is sluggish enough 
that it's worth doing a restart.




You had FOUR tabs open just of Facebook!  Did you really need all four?
How much memory is required if you have only one tab for Facebook and no
tabs for anything else?  How much memory is required if you have four
tabs open but none of them are for Facebook?  Were any of your tabs
streaming a video or sound?

I do not use Facebook, so I cannot test what happens with tabs open to
Facebook.  With two tabs open to Web pages that automicatically update,
however, I just launched a YouTube streaming video of Tchaikovsky's
Violin Concerto; the memory requirement immediately doubled (but still
less than 260 MB).


I don't use Facebook either, so I've never seen how it behaves on an 
individual computer. However, I'm aware that Facebook's architecture is 
such that it makes massive consumption of available resources.


I have a friend used to be the IT services director for a college 
campus, and he noted to me that at their campus, most of the available 
bandwidth disappears between about 5:00 in the afternoon and 2:00 in the 
morning, and where most of that is being consumed by connections to 
Facebook servers.  In a similar way, I know of a particular developing 
country that has similar issues at the same times of day. Nearly 
everybody in the country (at least those with Internet access) are on 
Facebook, and where the saturation is enough that it's pretty much 
impossible to use the Internet for anything else.





Let me splain that.
I do not often use the main Facebook "newsfeed".
I use groups.  I am probably an active member of a dozen or so.

When i opened Usenet there were three groups available on my "subscribed"
main page.

I use faceook much the same way as i used Usednet for many years previous


What you're actually using Facebook for is mostly irrelevant. Facebook 
and Usenet have entirely different architectures. Usenet (and even now, 
there's portions that are still functioning) dates back to the late 
80's, where everything was simple text, and a significant amount of the 
activity was over dial-up modems. Facebook is decades newer, where it's 
built on the assumption of ubiquitous broadband, GUI in general, and the 
necessary infrastructure to support the World Wide Web. And where 
Usenet's model was collaborative and altruistic, Facebook is a 
for-profit operation. Perhaps there's a measure of merit in their stated 
goal of connecting the entire world together, but underneath that, the 
user-level interaction is what fuels an operation of data collection and 
analysis, which can be aggregated and analyzed, and subsequently resold 
for Facebook's profit.


Thus, when Facebook has been challenged on privacy issues, their 
response has, so far, mostly been window dressing, where they make some 
token updates as a way of trying to mute the criticism, but where 
there's no substantial changes in the way that they do business, and 
certainly not in a way that makes a significant change in their revenue 
streams.


At this point, further analysis of Facebook is very clearly off-topic 
for a discussion of Seamonkey. However, noting that as background helps 
explain why use of Facebook may impose performance issues on your use of 
Seamonkey.


For you, whether you're using Facebook as a logical replacement for 
Usenet, or any other Facebook service, it's all Facebook, and it may be 
that the only variable may be how many Facebook services you're 
currently accessing. Having more tabs open with Facebook services will 
definitely increase that, but you may have considerable usage on even 
one or two tabs.



Because I don't have first-hand experience of using Seamonkey, I'm only 
guessing, but I think it's probable that you're seeing evidence of what 
Facebook actually does while you're connected to it. It's not clear to 
me if your memory and CPU usage wo

Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

2019-03-16 Thread bo1953

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

New challenge for the week.

Having challenges displaying the eBay login screen correctly.

I only get a blank page with the eBay logo and Norton, upon
clicking the
logo I Am returned to the front splash page for eBay which displays
correctly.

Happening for the last week or so.

My desktop the display is just fine at the login page as well as with
Chrome on the laptop.

Suggestions/recommendations?

I have tried UA and no change in behaviour.

TIA - bo1953


Turn off Norton and see if you can log in.



piH - I have Avast and did turn that off and still the same result, not
able to get the login screen.

When I referenced Norton, it is on eBay's site which has the Norton
logo...

Any other ideas?

Thank you - bo1953


I can't find a reference to Norton on any of the Ebay pages.
Are you using www.ebay.com  ?

Try safe mode.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode#Starting_Safe_Mode

For SeaMonkey, one of these:
 seamonkey -safe-mode
 "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode
 "C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode



p - I see it on the page you link me to, it is at the very bottom on the
right side of the page.

On the near blank screen, I see eBay in the upper left side of the page
and Norton at the bottom of the page is Norton on the right side.

Thank you again.


Found the Norton!
Do other browsers work correctly?
I'm sure you have scanned for bad things.
Did anything suspicious pop up?
The htm attachment on your other post instantly crashes my SM.



Chrome does, w/o issue.

Nothing suspicious at all..

Will do another system scan, but nothing found over the last few days..

TY - bo1953
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Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

2019-03-16 Thread bo1953

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Found the Norton!
Do other browsers work correctly?
I'm sure you have scanned for bad things.
Did anything suspicious pop up?
The htm attachment on your other post instantly crashes my SM.


Strange, not mine (2.49.4 under Win7 Pro SP1).

But it does seem to break the news reader -- for the rest of the 
session, whenever I try to view a newsgroup message, I just get an 
endless spinning cursor. Mail and browser work normally. After I close 
SM and relaunch, everything works normally.


pbg - Thank you.. I have shut down and restarted the browser several 
tomes to no avail..


I wonder if re-installing SM might do the trick?

TY - bo1953
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