SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites
I have upgraded several computers to SeaMonkey 2.49.5 x64. I've noticed that I am having issues with some websites using SeaMonkey. that I don't have with other browsers. I use several different computers in different locations with Windows 7 Pro. I have not changed the User Agent, although User Agent Switcher is install on some computers but not all. On the American Express site when I try to download an archived statement it does not appear to accept the selection. On Southwest.com I get a popup "Feedback" window all of the time for no apparent reason. Has any one else seen this kind of behavior? -- Rob Steinmetz ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites
SeaMonkey v2.49.5 uses a very old Gecko web engine based on Firefox v52. Lots of web sites don't support that old. We'll have to wait for the next major versions of SeaMonkey with the newer engine versions and that will take a very long time to finish (you can use its prereleases, but they're buggy). I also had to use other web browsers like Firefox v71 (now 72 from its today's release). :( On 1/7/2020 7:50 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote: I have upgraded several computers to SeaMonkey 2.49.5 x64. I've noticed that I am having issues with some websites using SeaMonkey. that I don't have with other browsers. I use several different computers in different locations with Windows 7 Pro. I have not changed the User Agent, although User Agent Switcher is install on some computers but not all. On the American Express site when I try to download an archived statement it does not appear to accept the selection. On Southwest.com I get a popup "Feedback" window all of the time for no apparent reason. Has any one else seen this kind of behavior? -- "Is this stuff any good for ants?" "No, it kills them." --unknown Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites
Ant wrote: We'll have to wait for the next major versions of SeaMonkey with the newer engine versions and that will take a very long time to finish (you can use its prereleases, but they're buggy). Nothing personal but don't spread misinformation. 2.53.x is not buggy. 2.57 is. 2.53.1 is due out soon. First beta done and in release. I also had to use other web browsers like Firefox v71 (now 72 from its today's release). :( Currently most issues are because of bad user agent sniffing or deliberate shutting out of non major browsers. Even SeaMonkey 9.99 won't help here. This may change in the future but isn't the case today. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Remove Duplicate Messages (Alternate) 0.4.1
I downloaded it today and so far it seems to be working. Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: On 12/11/19 08:16, Daniel wrote: rob wrote on 12/11/2019 3:45 PM: I've been in touch with the author. He says he will get around to looking at it. That's OK because he does it on his own time and offers it for free. ...> OK, here's an updated version for testing (attached to the bug on its webpage linked below. Forwarded Message Subject: [removedupes] [Bug 26736] Fails with no UI on SM 2.49.5 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 03:57:30 -0800 (PST) From: bugzilla-dae...@mozdev.mozdev.org To: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26736 Eyal Rozenberg changed: What |Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: youtube video downloads
good day I use a standalone product free issue 5 per day allowed https://www.gihosoft.com/free-youtube-downloader.html enjoy Klaus Weber wrote: 2.49.2, Windows 10 I tested several addons that promise downloading of videos but I was not successful. Either I could not find a download button or only a small html file has been downloaded. What is the best addon to download youtube videos? Klaus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites
On 1/7/2020 11:10 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: We'll have to wait for the next major versions of SeaMonkey with the newer engine versions and that will take a very long time to finish (you can use its prereleases, but they're buggy). Nothing personal but don't spread misinformation. 2.53.x is not buggy. 2.57 is. 2.53.1 is due out soon. First beta done and in release. Is v2.53.1 stable enough for production usage so I can stop using Firefox and others? -- "You'd think we could just attract ants like normal people." --Wolverine (X-Men:TAS) Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Issues with some Websites
Ant wrote: SeaMonkey v2.49.5 uses a very old Gecko web engine based on Firefox v52. Lots of web sites don't support that old. At least they claim not to support that old. I've found that with spoofing, that if I give a site a UA string showing Gecko 60 or 68 from Seamonkey 2.49.5, I generally don't have problems. If I have problems, it's far more likely to be other tweaking that I've done, such blocking stuff with NoScript and/or uBlock Origin, blocking tracking, refusing third-party cookies, etc. I'm sure that there's sites out there that really require something newer than Gecko 52, but I think that they're very few, and I can't remember seeing them. Where I've seen sites complaining about Seamonkey 2.49.5/Gecko 52 is usually coming from scripting that's doing UA sniffing. With NoScript active, I rarely see any of that, because the scripts never run (and can't check). There are a handful of sites that won't give me what I want without enabling the scripting that does sniffing, and for that, spoofing generally does what I need. For sites, the issue is generally not that they *can't* handle Gecko 52, so much as it is that they want users running newer browsers, because older ones do have known security holes in them. Unfortunately, the number of Seamonkey users is small enough that at sites doing checking, the owners don't know (or don't care) that Seamonkey is actively being maintained, despite showing Gecko 52. I've noted before that I see that happening most often with sites for financial providers. For good measure, the people providing help at various sites are likely to demand specific browsers (and versions), because it streamlines the support process (again, financial providers are the most aggressive). For Seamonkey, they don't care that it's a functional equivalent, just that the different UI layout is enough that they don't want to be bothered with trying to figure out where a particular setting is. All that said, I do know that if I'm spoofing, it's definitely possible that the site really does require something specific to Gecko 60, but that's on me, and I'm not going to go to the site's support and complain that things aren't working because of how I'm using Seamonkey. If I'm having problems, I can either go to a profile where the only tweak I make is for spoofing, or I can launch Firefox from a profile that doesn't have a lot of tweaking. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system
Ray Davison wrote: DoctorBill wrote: As a PS to my previous post - MY problem with ALL of this is that once I learn HOW to do all thisafter six months or more of not constantly being involved with it - I forget it ! I forget the details and have, essentially, to re-invent the wheel ! Start from scratch. Give me a break - I am 76 years old ! I am lucky I can go to the bathroom by myself ! I have to come back here and have you nice folks explain it all AGAIN after a while.. So do I also get a "break"? I'm 82, and beside building desktops I redesign old cars. I currently maintain four desktops and three laptops. The apps are on an apps partition and the data is on a data partition. I can reinstall or replace an OS and the most I need to do to the apps is create a fresh run object (shortcut). And updates are done in isolation. I also always have multiple versions of each app. I never replace an app or OS until I an convinced the replacement is superior. So every computer has multiple versions of Win and Mozilla and/or Mozilla clones. On desktops, the apps are on one HDD and apps and data are on another HDD. I have clones of each. So my backup and restore is to swap a HDD. And the OSs don't know the apps/data has changed and the apps/data doesn't know the OSs has changed. With a couple decent tools building a partition structure is not difficult. And Mozilla products are very easy to organize. . Well congratulations on being 82 ! AND being able to do ALL THAT ! Wow. Each of us has our Limitations (as Dirty Harry said) and I have my own. I hope - if I make it to 82 - that I can do as well as you are now ! Keep going... Never stopNever retire. I just wish it didn't hurt so much ! DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
