Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[jcteyssier]

Ray_Net a écrit :

Ray_Net wrote on 21-04-20 08:39:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :



2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems 
(temporary hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so 
switched to uBlock which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG


Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
until 2.57

Because: (the minimum that I want)
The french dictionary is a web extension
The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

AND in the 2.53.1 release notes I read:

Dictionaries in WebExtension formats do *not* work, even though they 
appear to install correctly.


SeaMonkey does not currently support the WebExtensions add-on api. 
Some popular add-ons like NoScript and uBlock Origin are no longer 
shown because of this on the SeaMonkey add-ons website. You can 
usually get them from the manufacturers site. WebExtensions support is 
a planned feature for 2.57.



So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?

I have not undersatnd all the answers  It seems very complicated ...
I think that I should abandon SM 2.53.1: i use French dictionary without 
any problem.

It was present on my 2.29.5 profile ans is still here and active.

Ops, wait: i check in about:addons and seems no dictionary here 
except en-US.
Strange, because i still have spell check active. Maybe because i use 
the French official build of Seamonkey?


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.1/win64/fr/seamonkey-2.53.1.fr.win64.installer.exe

I use uBlock Origin (1.46.4.20) also without any problem (was also 
present in my 2.49.5)

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Re: clear ask "remember" save as / open with flag

[Hawker]

On 4/22/2020 3:23 PM, EE wrote:

Hawker wrote:
Where do I clear the "remember" option for save as or open with flag 
in Seamonkey? I think I accidentally clicked the remember option for 
an open and now it is no longer asking me for that file type. I looked 
in the content handler in preferences, where I thought it was, but 
that is set to ask, yet it isn't asking. Is it site specific?


Go to Preferences > Helper Applications and set the setting for that 
item to "Always ask".


For some reason that didn't fix it. That is what I tried to start but it 
must be somewhere else.

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Seamonkey Outgoing Test Message

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I have accessed what I think is all of the mail in response to my 
earlier messages.  Don Spam's Reckless Son suggested in his message that 
I chang my settings to Port 465 = SSLTLS...I did that and this a test 
message after making those changes.


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Re: Can't Load Forums

[Ant]

On 4/22/2020 6:03 AM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
I can't load any of the Forums listed on this page with SM 2.53.1. I 
used to, and Edge works fine.

https://www.avsforum.com/


Everything, on its home page, is so big! 
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/index.php works fine for me though.

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups as read?

[Ant]

On 4/22/2020 6:42 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 4/20/2020 3:21 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 4/20/2020 11:49 AM, EE wrote:

Ant wrote:

Instead of having to go through one by one?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


I know of no way to do that.  Why not set SeaMonkey to load only 
threads with unread messages?  That gets rid of a lot of stuff you 
have already seen.


But I don't want to read those unread messages too. I just want to 
mark read ALL newsgroups at once since I am not going to bother 
reading them since I fell behind and just started caught up on the 
next time.


If I find some time I will add it. Goes on my nerves too.

Just need to find some time... :)


Thanks. Do we need a Bugzilla ticket on this or does it already exist?


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632126

In todays unofficial and should be in 2.53.3 and up.


Thank you, FRG! :)
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote on 21-04-20 08:39:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :



2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems 
(temporary hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so 
switched to uBlock which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG


Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
until 2.57

Because: (the minimum that I want)
The french dictionary is a web extension
The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

AND in the 2.53.1 release notes I read:

Dictionaries in WebExtension formats do *not* work, even though they 
appear to install correctly.


SeaMonkey does not currently support the WebExtensions add-on api. 
Some popular add-ons like NoScript and uBlock Origin are no longer 
shown because of this on the SeaMonkey add-ons website. You can 
usually get them from the manufacturers site. WebExtensions support is 
a planned feature for 2.57.



So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?

I have not undersatnd all the answers  It seems very complicated ...
I think that I should abandon SM 
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Re: Startup in browser only

[EE]

G. Ross wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/21/20 10:17 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

G. Ross wrote:
Recently installed v 2.46.  With the previous version I had two 
desktop icons.  One was Seamonkey.exe -browser and the other 
was Seamonkey.exe -mail. The one for mail works as usual but the 
other one opens the browser then the mail windows.  It will not 
allow the -browser part.  Is there another way to open only the 
browser window?


Look in about:config for
general.startup
and set what you want to start as TRUE.
I have mine set for browser only.


Why not just use Edit > Preferences > Appearance and set "When SeaMonkey
starts up, open" and check "Browser"? It does the same thing.

If I do that, it will only open the browser and cannot get into the 
mail.  Also, the "seamonkey.exe -mail" will not work. Guess I'll just 
close the mail pane when I want to use the browser to do a Lookup.


Do you not have the icons at the left end of the status bar for browser, 
mail & newsgroups, composer, address book and chatzilla?


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Re: Can't Load Forums

[EE]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
I can't load any of the Forums listed on this page with SM 2.53.1. I 
used to, and Edge works fine.

https://www.avsforum.com/


I tried a couple of them. They load for me.  It cannot be a SeaMonkey 
problem.  More like a settings or extension problem?

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Re: clear ask "remember" save as / open with flag

[EE]

Hawker wrote:
Where do I clear the "remember" option for save as or open with flag in 
Seamonkey? I think I accidentally clicked the remember option for an 
open and now it is no longer asking me for that file type. I looked in 
the content handler in preferences, where I thought it was, but that is 
set to ask, yet it isn't asking. Is it site specific?


Go to Preferences > Helper Applications and set the setting for that 
item to "Always ask".

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Re: change default download?

[Hawker]

On 4/22/2020 2:56 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Hawker wrote:

I must have clicked to always use this option accidentally.
When I download a picture in Face book it used to ask me what to open 
it with. I would usually click download, but sometimes open in 
SeaMonkey. Now it always opens in SeaMonkey. How to I reset this to 
ask me again?
I checked in Preferences Helper Applications and it still says ask for 
JPG so I must be looking in the wrong place.


Thanx



Have you tried right-clicking on it?  I dont have Faecebook myself so I 
don't know how it offers the pictures.




I do that when I can but in this case that doesn't work.
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Re: change default download?

[Hawker]

On 4/22/2020 2:56 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Hawker wrote:

I must have clicked to always use this option accidentally.
When I download a picture in Face book it used to ask me what to open 
it with. I would usually click download, but sometimes open in 
SeaMonkey. Now it always opens in SeaMonkey. How to I reset this to 
ask me again?
I checked in Preferences Helper Applications and it still says ask for 
JPG so I must be looking in the wrong place.


Thanx



Have you tried right-clicking on it?  I dont have Faecebook myself so I 
don't know how it offers the pictures.




I do that when I can but in this case that doesn't work.
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Re: change default download?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Hawker wrote:

I must have clicked to always use this option accidentally.
When I download a picture in Face book it used to ask me what to open it 
with. I would usually click download, but sometimes open in SeaMonkey. 
Now it always opens in SeaMonkey. How to I reset this to ask me again?
I checked in Preferences Helper Applications and it still says ask for 
JPG so I must be looking in the wrong place.


Thanx



Have you tried right-clicking on it?  I dont have Faecebook myself so I 
don't know how it offers the pictures.


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clear ask "remember" save as / open with flag

[Hawker]

Where do I clear the "remember" option for save as or open with flag in 
Seamonkey? I think I accidentally clicked the remember option for an 
open and now it is no longer asking me for that file type. I looked in 
the content handler in preferences, where I thought it was, but that is 
set to ask, yet it isn't asking. Is it site specific?

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Re: Can't Load Forums

[Thomas Pamin]

jcteyssier wrote:

Thomas Pamin a écrit :
I can't load any of the Forums listed on this page with SM 2.53.1. I 
used to, and Edge works fine.

https://www.avsforum.com/

Seamonkey 2.53.1 win 64: forums loads here.
Jean-Charles

Yes, they are loading now.
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups as read?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Ant wrote:

On 4/20/2020 3:21 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 4/20/2020 11:49 AM, EE wrote:

Ant wrote:

Instead of having to go through one by one?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


I know of no way to do that.  Why not set SeaMonkey to load only threads 
with unread messages?  That gets rid of a lot of stuff you have already seen.


But I don't want to read those unread messages too. I just want to mark 
read ALL newsgroups at once since I am not going to bother reading them 
since I fell behind and just started caught up on the next time.


If I find some time I will add it. Goes on my nerves too.

Just need to find some time... :)


Thanks. Do we need a Bugzilla ticket on this or does it already exist?


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632126

In todays unofficial and should be in 2.53.3 and up.
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Re: Can't Load Forums

[WaltS48]

On 4/22/20 9:03 AM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
I can't load any of the Forums listed on this page with SM 2.53.1. I 
used to, and Edge works fine.

https://www.avsforum.com/


Can't load any of the Forums in safe mode, a test profile or just your 
production profile?


I can access forums there using my SeaMonkey 2.53.1 which doesn't have 
any extensions.


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Re: Can't Load Forums

[jcteyssier]

Thomas Pamin a écrit :
I can't load any of the Forums listed on this page with SM 2.53.1. I 
used to, and Edge works fine.

https://www.avsforum.com/

Seamonkey 2.53.1 win 64: forums loads here.
Jean-Charles
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Can't Load Forums

[Thomas Pamin]

I can't load any of the Forums listed on this page with SM 2.53.1. I 
used to, and Edge works fine.

https://www.avsforum.com/
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Re: Differing Column Headings

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Daniel wrote:
If I set my e-mail Inbox (or news, I think) account Threads Pane up to 
show me who I've received e-mails from, when I then look at my Sent 
folder, it also shows me that I've sent all those e-mails


If I set up my Sent Pane to show me who I sent those e-mails, when I 
then go back to my Inbox, I'm shown that all the e-mails in my Inbox 
were sent to me.


Is it possible to have my Inbox tell me who I received the e-mails from 
AND, at the same time, have my Sent folder set up to show me who I sent 
the e-mails to?? If so, HOW??


TIA


In my case,
My Inbox has the column headings:
[thread-symbol]  Subject  [junk symbol]  From  ["Read" symbol]  Date 
Lines.  (to the right of there's a symbol for "Select columns to display")


My "Sent" folder has the column headings:
[thread-symbol]  Subject  [junk symbol]  Recipient  ["Read" symbol] 
Date  Size.  (same symbol to the right)


This is presumably the default setting (I forget if I ever changed it) 
and it is also what you are asking for.  Have you tried that "Select 
columns to display"?  I don't know how you are making your changes.


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Re: 2.53.1 build error: NSModules are not ordered appropriately

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Tristan Miller wrote:

Greetings.

On 03/03/2020 19.04, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Could you check if this helps:
https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c999baadc2d5



Thanks; that patch fixed this particular build error!


Hi,
Is this going to land in repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/ as well?
I'll do some testing when it does (but not next week).



If anyone cares, this level made it to the OpenSuse Mozilla repository
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/ 
some time on/after Friday 17th.  The main repository still has 2.49.4.


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Re: FreeBSD 12.1 build

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Check if this one applies:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575876

We are now finalizing patches for 2.53.2. Can put it in if it helps.

Under Linux gcc 6 to 8 and clang 7 and 8 are tested. clang 9 and probably 10 
support will arrive in 2.53.3. gcc 9 is looked into but clang is really 
preferred now


FRG


BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to build SM 2.53.2b1 on FreeBSD. On FreeBSD 12.0, SM can be
built without trouble (only an error that comes from parallel build). It
is built with default compilers (clang) and it runs as expected.

I have to patch tree to build SM on FreeBSD 12.1. In a first time, I
have to force CC and CXX to clang and clang++. If gcc9/g++9 can
successfully build SM, executable aborts as it tries to open GNU libc++
and complains about internal revision (libxul tries to open libstdc++
provided by gcc6 at runtime). I haven't found any explanation. This, I
have rebuilt SM in another tree with default compilers.

Thus, on FreeBSD, configure script should avoid gcc/g++ usage even if
gcc/g++ are available in ports or /usr/local.

clang returns an error in
mozilla/media/mtransport/third_party/nICEr/src/stun/stun.h and I have
patched this file. Please apply patch:

--- stun.h.orig 2020-04-22 10:09:19.650577108 +0200
+++ stun.h  2020-04-22 10:07:05.328570638 +0200
@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@
  #include 
  #ifndef LINUX
  #include 
-#if !defined(__OpenBSD__) && !defined(__NetBSD__)
+#if !defined(__OpenBSD__) && !defined(__NetBSD__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__)
  #include 
  #endif
  #include 

Regards,

JKB


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FreeBSD 12.1 build

[BERTRAND Joël]

Hello,

I'm trying to build SM 2.53.2b1 on FreeBSD. On FreeBSD 12.0, SM can be
built without trouble (only an error that comes from parallel build). It
is built with default compilers (clang) and it runs as expected.

I have to patch tree to build SM on FreeBSD 12.1. In a first time, I
have to force CC and CXX to clang and clang++. If gcc9/g++9 can
successfully build SM, executable aborts as it tries to open GNU libc++
and complains about internal revision (libxul tries to open libstdc++
provided by gcc6 at runtime). I haven't found any explanation. This, I
have rebuilt SM in another tree with default compilers.

Thus, on FreeBSD, configure script should avoid gcc/g++ usage even if
gcc/g++ are available in ports or /usr/local.

clang returns an error in
mozilla/media/mtransport/third_party/nICEr/src/stun/stun.h and I have
patched this file. Please apply patch:

--- stun.h.orig 2020-04-22 10:09:19.650577108 +0200
+++ stun.h  2020-04-22 10:07:05.328570638 +0200
@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@
 #include 
 #ifndef LINUX
 #include 
-#if !defined(__OpenBSD__) && !defined(__NetBSD__)
+#if !defined(__OpenBSD__) && !defined(__NetBSD__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__)
 #include 
 #endif
 #include 

Regards,

JKB
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Re: Startup in browser only

[Daniel]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 22/04/2020 7:02 AM:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/21/20 10:17 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

G. Ross wrote:
Recently installed v 2.46.  With the previous version I had two 
desktop icons.  One was Seamonkey.exe -browser and the other was 
Seamonkey.exe -mail. The one for mail works as usual but the 
other one opens the browser then the mail windows.  It will not 
allow the -browser part.  Is there another way to open only the 
browser window?


Look in about:config for
general.startup
and set what you want to start as TRUE.
I have mine set for browser only.


Why not just use Edit > Preferences > Appearance and set "When 
SeaMonkey starts up, open" and check "Browser"? It does the same thing.


Oh! I agree.  I'm used to heading to config for everything.

... but doesn't setting something via Edit > Preferences > Appearance 
also effect what you would see via "about:config"??


And, conversely, doesn't what you might set via "about:config" effect 
what you might see as preselected in Edit > Preferences > Appearance ??


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Re: Filtering on Cross-posted Newsgroups??

[Daniel]

Yamo' wrote on 22/04/2020 2:47 AM:

Hi,

Daniel a tapoté le 20/04/2020 12:12:

Daniel wrote on 17/04/2020 6:53 PM:

Yamo' wrote on 17/04/2020 3:22 AM:

Hi,

Daniel a tapoté le 16/04/2020 16:35:

Is it possible to create a News filter to mark a message/thread as read
if a message/thread is cross-posted to a particular newsgroup??


Yes a filter that contain two conditions :
    Newsgroups contain , and  Newsgroups contain newsgroups.name


Thank you, Yamo, I'll give it a go.


O.K., Yamo, I finally came across a post that was cross-posted into the
newsgroup that I wasn't interested in.

So I tried to set up a "Customised" filter that would filter on the
cross-posted newsgroups. First off, I was unable to call a Filter (i.e.
News message header) "Newsgroups contain" nor would it let me call it
"Newsgroupscontain".

Each time I entered the 'New message header' and click 'Add' that line
got moved into the second part of the 'Customize Headers' screen and
then clicked 'OK', the screen just stayed there.


What I've done :

At the end, I click on the other button.

And then you can select this mysterious Newsgroups...

But It not worked (my last message here).
I turn on the log. Nothing inside

I asked and had the response but I didn't found any clue.

And after a while it worked without doing anything more...

The message (in French) :



So, obviously, what I am trying to do doesn't work  so any other
suggestions??


I hope it will work like that worked after a while on my Seamonkey 2.53.1...


Thanks for sticking with me, Yamo.

I've copied your response into a text file so when I come across another 
UseNet post that is cross-posted into the "wrong" group, I'll try 
setting up the filter again.


Ta!!

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