Re: Read/unread marks in newsgroups are reset each time I start SM.
AndrésH wrote on 16/08/2020 3:07 AM: Hello, I observe that recently the status of the messages of this newsgroup doesn't persist after exiting the program. After reading a message its status goes to read, but when I exit and restart the program it shows as unread again. I have tried to repair the folder, but the problem persists. AndrésH, somewhere in the back of my mind, I seem to remember there is a file associated with each news server account that you have. For this server, that file would be news.mozilla.org.rc or something like that. With-in that file, there is a line for each news group that is subscribed to on that server. each group has one (maybe very long) line of data which records the message number of those messages that you have read. If a message number is not listed that means you haven't read that message (or vice versa!!). If that file has, somehow, been set to 'Read Only', that file cannot be updated when you close SeaMonkey down each night! So it could be worthwhile doing a search for that file, news.mozilla.org.rc, and right click on it to see if its properties have been set to 'Read Only'!! HTH -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
On 8/16/2020 1:19 PM, EE wrote: Why use Chrome? It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to Google. I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it. I have other chromium browsers, but not Chrome. If you use Pale Moon you can continue using SeaMonkey. Waste of time if you are after web compatibility with newer sites. I use both. I found I was using Pale Moon more for browsing, so I made it my default. I think the two of them are diverging somewhat. Some pages that do not work properly with SeaMonkey now work with Pale Moon. What Gecko versions do SeaMonkey and Pale Moon use these days? -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 16-08-20 01:14: Ray_Net wrote: EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21: Lance Courtland wrote: Parting is such sweet sorrow. Lance Why use Chrome? Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not work using SM. Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in private? As stated that was never a supported feature and we do what we can. If it is not enough for you just leave. A lot of sites I never vist have probably problems. The ones I use frequently still work but I am staying away from google based services where 90% of the bigger problems are. FRG So, what must I do when: I can fill a form but the XMIT button did not work using SM. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: updates
Edward wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: The first (Windows) Seamonkey which offered a 64-bit version officially was 2.49.5. You have 2.49.1, so unless you downloaded an unofficial build from a different site - and I'm assuming you'd remember doing that - you have a 32-bit version. That User Agent is a bit weird, I have looked up some old messages here and seen: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 If you do update - download a 64-bit 2.53.3, uninstall your old Seamonkey, backup the profile and install the new one. WOW64 is Windows-On-Windows 64. That is seen when a 32-bit version is installed on a 64-bit Windows OS. When I had 64-bit Windows 7 installed, SeaMonkey displayed that as the only SM versions at the time were 32-bit. If a 64-bit version of Sea Monkey is installed on 64-bit Windows, the UserAgent will then show 'Win64' and 'x64'. Which describes his user-agent quite accurately. To repeat, the only "official" 2.49.1 version was 32-bit - see https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.1#official - but his user-agent says x64. This implies an unofficial build, or a manipulated user-agent. I'd go forwards as I suggested anyway - uninstall it before installing the current version. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: EE wrote: Lance Courtland wrote: Lance Why use Chrome? It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to Google. I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it. I have other chromium browsers, but not Chrome. If you use Pale Moon you can continue using SeaMonkey. Waste of time if you are after web compatibility with newer sites. FRG I use both. I found I was using Pale Moon more for browsing, so I made it my default. I think the two of them are diverging somewhat. Some pages that do not work properly with SeaMonkey now work with Pale Moon. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Read/unread marks in newsgroups are reset each time I start SM.
AndrésH wrote: I don't have any filter in the newsgroup section , nor in my email sections. I Have repaired several times the newsgroup folder ( properties -> first pane ) . I have also downloaded the message (properties -> third pane synch ). I have also manually deleted mozilla.support.seamonkey.msf and .dat files to force SM recreate them. It seems that SM remembers the messaged I read in July , but not the ones I in the last 2 weeks. Deleting the .msf and .dat files isn't something I would personally do. Try removing the newsgroup server entirely from SeaMonkey: Edit/Mail & Newsgrouos Account Settings, highlight the server name and select Remove Account. If prompted to delete old messages, select Yes. Exit SeaMonkey completely, then re-launch it and add the newsgroup server back in. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Read/unread marks in newsgroups are reset each time I start SM.
Edward escribió: AndrésH wrote: Hello, I observe that recently the status of the messages of this newsgroup doesn't persist after exiting the program. After reading a message its status goes to read, but when I exit and restart the program it shows as unread again. I have tried to repair the folder, but the problem persists. Could you possibly have a Message Filter for the newsgroup set, to mark everything as Unread when the filter is run? Tools / Message Filters I don't have any filter in the newsgroup section , nor in my email sections. I Have repaired several times the newsgroup folder ( properties -> first pane ) . I have also downloaded the message (properties -> third pane synch ). I have also manually deleted mozilla.support.seamonkey.msf and .dat files to force SM recreate them. It seems that SM remembers the messaged I read in July , but not the ones I in the last 2 weeks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Read/unread marks in newsgroups are reset each time I start SM.
AndrésH wrote: Hello, I observe that recently the status of the messages of this newsgroup doesn't persist after exiting the program. After reading a message its status goes to read, but when I exit and restart the program it shows as unread again. I have tried to repair the folder, but the problem persists. Could you possibly have a Message Filter for the newsgroup set, to mark everything as Unread when the filter is run? Tools / Message Filters ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: updates
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: The first (Windows) Seamonkey which offered a 64-bit version officially was 2.49.5. You have 2.49.1, so unless you downloaded an unofficial build from a different site - and I'm assuming you'd remember doing that - you have a 32-bit version. That User Agent is a bit weird, I have looked up some old messages here and seen: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 If you do update - download a 64-bit 2.53.3, uninstall your old Seamonkey, backup the profile and install the new one. WOW64 is Windows-On-Windows 64. That is seen when a 32-bit version is installed on a 64-bit Windows OS. When I had 64-bit Windows 7 installed, SeaMonkey displayed that as the only SM versions at the time were 32-bit. If a 64-bit version of Sea Monkey is installed on 64-bit Windows, the UserAgent will then show 'Win64' and 'x64'. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: updates
Ken Rudolph wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: After all these years (since Netscape 1.0) I've basically given up on the SeaMonkey browser, replacing it with Firefox. However, out of habit and utility, I still use SeaMonkey 2.49.1 for e-mail and Composer for updating my web site (I have separate links to open only those portions of the suite). This means when I click on an e-mail link it opens the SeaMonkey browser in a separate window...which is OK by me usually. More often I just ^C the link and then paste it in Firefox. This is working fine for me. I've always been scared in the past when I had to manually do a SeaMonkey version update. It always did work; but I had nervous moments fearful that I'd lose my profile etc. Obviously I haven't updated SeaMonkey for a while now. I see the current version is 2.53.3. So here's my question. In my situation, should I do the SeaMonkey update just for the e-mail and composer parts? Would there be some major advantage to doing the update? Everything that I need to do with the SeaMonkey portions other than the browser itself is working fine. Do I need to do the update to the entire suite for some reason? Thank you for Mozilla, however I use it!! You can't update "just the e-mail and composer parts", it is one program. I have absolutely no idea which Thunderbird fixes have gone in since 2.49.1, very little has happened with composer. Lightning is now included, it was not back then. If you do upgrade - and I see no reason not to - there are a couple of things you need to worry about: - Starting 2.49.5, Seamonkey comes in 32-bit and 64-bit versions. If you are going to move to a 64-bit version, UNINSTALL THE OLD VERSION > BEFORE INSTALLING THE NEW ONE. This is because installing a 64-bit version will not remove a 32-bit version, something which can have fatal side-effects. I'm not sure if I have the 32 or 64 bit version of SeaMonkey. I do see this in "about": User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Does that x64 mean 64 bit version even if it is SM 2.49.1? I've never worried about that in previous updates to SM. But now you have me thinking that I better know whether to uninstall my current version (something that worries me) or not if it is the 32-bit version. Thank you for the advice! The first (Windows) Seamonkey which offered a 64-bit version officially was 2.49.5. You have 2.49.1, so unless you downloaded an unofficial build from a different site - and I'm assuming you'd remember doing that - you have a 32-bit version. That User Agent is a bit weird, I have looked up some old messages here and seen: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 If you do update - download a 64-bit 2.53.3, uninstall your old Seamonkey, backup the profile and install the new one. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
