Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook
On 10/3/2020 3:21 PM, Stephen Katz wrote: ... If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day. I am loathe to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years. My biggest thing is the email, I am used to it and love it. It pops right over from Gmail. Also being able to send a link. Chrome doesn't do that. I might as well for now run two browsers. Sad... Yea, I still love SM since I had been a suite user since Netscape's days. I really hope SM gets the newer Geck web browser engines soon so it can be fast as current Firefox's. If it gets worse, then I will have to use Firefox (don't like its GUI) and Thunderbird separately. :( -- Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. Go Los Angeles _..n-"""/""--.._ (L.A.) Lakers! .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-. Cool Miami ' .\' \ `. ``";. Heat! ___/_-" |\`. `. ===///, ,-. .- .-; , , ,- ,L , ,_ ,- --////_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _) ___///____ __ __ | ___ /// --/|| --// .' // "/ _// ))|(| "/ ---/// /' || _//.; __//_.//_="' _\\ --///- -/---|| //'|| // ', _// ;| \\ ; __///|__/_ _||_/< `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._/// _/// | , | \ ---\\\ .' ___///_"/ | \ /`;=__.-' \ \ \ / ASCII art by `. \\ ,' -bodom-`. \\ ,' Remove ANT `-._ \\ _.-' to e-mail if needed. `--\..--' ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook
Ray_Net wrote: > Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21: >> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote: >>> On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote: >>> ... Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't close the window. Just the damn hourglass... >>> Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not >>> perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers >>> like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If >>> you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with >>> ads (not recommended IMO). :( >>> -- >>> Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see >>> this signature correctly. >>> Go Los Angeles _..n-"""/""--.._ >>> (L.A.) Lakers! .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-. >>> Cool Miami ' .\' \ `. ``";. >>> Heat! ___/_-" | \ `. `. >>> ===/// , ,-. .- .-; , , ,- ,L , ,_ ,- >>> --/// /_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _) >>> ___/// __ __ __ __ | ___ >>> /// --/|| --// .' // "/ _// ))|(| "/ >>> ---/// /' || _//.; __//_. //_="' _\\ >>> --///- -/---|| //'|| // ', _// ;| \\ ; >>> __///|__/_ _||_/< `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._// / >>> _/// | , | \ ---\\\ .' >>> ___///_"/ | \ /`;=__.-' >>> \ \ \ / >>> ASCII art by `. \ \ ,' >>> -bodom- `. \ \ ,' >>> Remove ANT `-._ \ \ _.-' >>> to e-mail if needed. `--\..--' >> If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day. I am loathe >> to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years. My biggest >> thing is the email, I am used to it and love it. It pops right over >> from Gmail. Also being able to send a link. Chrome doesn't do that. >> I might as well for now run two browsers. Sad... > "is the email, I am used to it and love it." > Why not using thunderbird ? Have you seen the latest Thunderbird? Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both Thunderbird and FireFox. If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only when I absolutely must. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey crashing
Stephen Katz wrote: > On Sunday, June 6, 2010 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-7, Glen wrote: > > jtjohnston wrote: > > > Glen wrote: > > >> jtjohnston wrote: > > >>> Glen wrote: > > jtjohnston wrote: > > > I don't know why, but SeaMonkey has been crashing on start-up for the > > > last 24-36 hours. Something completely new. > > > Moreover, everytime I use Google, (which is not my home page), when I > > > press enter or click on search, Seamonkey crashes too. > > > So what do I do to start debugging this? > > > John > > > > I would first try opening in safe mode, disabling all addons, and then > > see if you could start seamonkey in normal mode. That would at least > > narrow down a potential cause of your problems. > > > > It could be a recently updated addons that's causing havoc for you. > > > > Glen > > >>> > > >>> I ran seamonkey safe mode. It crashed. > > >>> I went to google.ca typed in a search item (anything) and pressed enter. > > >>> Seamonkey crashed :p > > >>> So it cannot be any of my plugins!? > > >>> What next? > > >> First off, you have a serious problem! From all my experience, if a > > >> program offers a "safe mode" and it falls and crashes, that's not good. > > >> > > >> Do you use MozBackup? > > >> Have you scanned for viruses/malware? > > >> Have you visited site(s) recently that may be unsafe - meaning, > > >> potential virus/malware hosts?? > > >> Do you have any other issues operating your pc, such as opening and > > >> using another program? > > >> > > >> My gut instinct tells me you may have a virus or malware attacking your > > >> pc or SM. > > >> > > >> Let me know the answers above asap. > > >> > > > It took a while, but yeah, I was infected with something. Eventually AVG > > > fixed it up. Long story. Some sort of registry key infection. > > jt, > > The people who just replied to your thread were correct, there was a > > malware/virus that attacked a vulnerability of SM. > > Here's what I would do to make sure you're pc is clean > > I'd download the latest "free" version of Malwarebytes and give your pc > > a full scan and make sure everything is off of it. > > http://www.malwarebytes.org/ > > Also, IMO, I'd remove AVG and install the "free" version of avast!. > > http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download > > Run a "full scan" in avast after you insure you have the latest updates, > > making sure you have the program set to "auto-update." > > IMO, the people at avast have done a phenomenal job with their latest > > free product and have recommended their product dozens of times since a > > few years ago. I've had at least 3-4 blacklisted virus/malware > > installation attempts over the past few years, but avast caught each one! > > I'm not sure who you use for a firewall, I personally use Zone Alarm > > 9.1. just because it's free, it seems to work, and only uses 4 megs > > of memory. > > Good luck with it... > My Seamonkey locks up all the time from ads on major websites. Only way out > is to reboot! It's happening more and more. On different machines. Can > this be fixed or do I need a new browser. PS Google Chrome has no issues > with the same sites. If you must use Chrome then use Ungoogled Chromium or Brave Browser instead - they use the Chrome engine but they come without the Google tracking. You should try using Waterfox as a browser. Its like Seamonkey but it is more updated. If you need any NPAPI plugins or are suing a old computer, download the Classic version. Otherwise, download the current version. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook
Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21: On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote: On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote: ... Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't close the window. Just the damn hourglass... Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with ads (not recommended IMO). :( -- Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. Go Los Angeles _..n-"""/""--.._ (L.A.) Lakers! .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-. Cool Miami ' .\' \ `. ``";. Heat! ___/_-" | \ `. `. ===/// , ,-. .- .-; , , ,- ,L , ,_ ,- --/// /_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _) ___/// __ __ __ __ | ___ /// --/|| --// .' // "/ _// ))|(| "/ ---/// /' || _//.; __//_. //_="' _\\ --///- -/---|| //'|| // ', _// ;| \\ ; __///|__/_ _||_/< `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._// / _/// | , | \ ---\\\ .' ___///_"/ | \ /`;=__.-' \ \ \ / ASCII art by `. \ \ ,' -bodom- `. \ \ ,' Remove ANT `-._ \ \ _.-' to e-mail if needed. `--\..--' If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day. I am loathe to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years. My biggest thing is the email, I am used to it and love it. It pops right over from Gmail. Also being able to send a link. Chrome doesn't do that. I might as well for now run two browsers. Sad... "is the email, I am used to it and love it." Why not using thunderbird ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Undoing in SM's web browser's web URL address form box.
On 03/10/2020 18:46, Ant wrote: I noticed if I undo (^Z or with the mouse), I get old past web URL addresses even in new empty tabs. Is this by design? Shouldn't it only remember what was used in this tab only? I believe the fact that there is one bar for all tabs in a browser window is a hint. The same doesn't happen between windows. Also, there is a valid use case. You accidentally type a URL in the bar for a tab that you didn't mean to overwrite, delete it, switch to an empty tab, Undo, and there's your URL ready to go. Underlying this is the metaphor that each window holds a set of related tabs, so that the user brings up a single window for some task, information source, or whatever. Less satisfactory is the interaction with the OS. While tabbing can hide what would otherwise be a group of browser windows from task switchers and task bars, it breaks the Alt-Tab function for switching between the most recent GUI contexts. Here, currently, Firefox wins over SeaMonkey by allowing a tab to be promoted to a window (drag the tab out of the window) and then re-tabbed (drag the promoted tab back to the original); in the current SM, dragging a tab only works into another tab bar, and then it just replicates the dragged tab. /df -- London UK ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey