Re: messages turned off

[Bruce Hagen]

Bonnell Frost wrote:

I am not getting any mail messages--they are bouncing.  I probably can turn
things on by going to
an earlier version of  ljkc--, but I then have to download a lot of mail.
How can I turn mail ON?



Any chance you are leaving messages on the server indefinitely? Check the 
server's Inbox. If that is full, incoming messages will bounce.

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Re: Message headers return to bold

[Bruce Hagen]

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

After marking messages as read in a newsgroup, if I leave the group and
come back every message header is bold again. Just reset Windows 10, but
backed up SeaMonkey with MozBackup and all newsgroups came back as
expected. Any thoughts?


For newsgroup accounts, I did settings to make the news servers send only
unread messages.  Any newsgroup messages that got marked as read will
not be
sent again.  In about:config, this is the setting:

mail.server.server.downloadUnreadOnly -> true

X is the number of the server for that account.




Good to know. Can I assume that if for some reason you have to remove
the newsgroup and then re-subscribe the "read" messages will come down?
I would want then to come back in if that were the case.


If you have to remove and re-subscribe, then it will be as if you had never
subscribed.





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Re: Message headers return to bold

[Bruce Hagen]

Daniel wrote:

On 13/04/2016 1:11 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:

After marking messages as read in a newsgroup, if I leave the group and
come back every message header is bold again. Just reset Windows 10, but
backed up SeaMonkey with MozBackup and all newsgroups came back as
expected. Any thoughts?


Bruce, SM keeps a record of which messages you have read in each group of a
news server that you have subscribed to. For instance, for this news server,
news.mozilla.org, the file is news.mozilla.org.rc.

If a message number is missing, in a news group, that indicates to SM that
that message  is unread, so the message Subject: in the Threads Pane, is
bolded. Ensure that you have not set the relevant *.rc file to be Read Only,
as that would cause SM to think you have not read any of the messages in
that group.

As you're on Windows 10, you may need to adjust your File Viewing settings,
in Windows Explorer, so you can display the files buried down in your SM
profile!

HTH




Thanks, but the issue mysteriously ended. Not sure what was up, but it's all 
good now.

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Re: Message headers return to bold

[Bruce Hagen]

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

After marking messages as read in a newsgroup, if I leave the group and
come back every message header is bold again. Just reset Windows 10, but
backed up SeaMonkey with MozBackup and all newsgroups came back as
expected. Any thoughts?


For newsgroup accounts, I did settings to make the news servers send only
unread messages.  Any newsgroup messages that got marked as read will not be
sent again.  In about:config, this is the setting:

mail.server.server.downloadUnreadOnly -> true

X is the number of the server for that account.




Good to know. Can I assume that if for some reason you have to remove the 
newsgroup and then re-subscribe the "read" messages will come down? I would 
want then to come back in if that were the case.


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Re: Message headers return to bold

[Bruce Hagen]

Bruce Hagen wrote:

After marking messages as read in a newsgroup, if I leave the group and come
back every message header is bold again. Just reset Windows 10, but backed
up SeaMonkey with MozBackup and all newsgroups came back as expected. Any
thoughts?



No idea what happened, but it fixed itself.
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Message headers return to bold

[Bruce Hagen]

After marking messages as read in a newsgroup, if I leave the group and come 
back every message header is bold again. Just reset Windows 10, but backed 
up SeaMonkey with MozBackup and all newsgroups came back as expected. Any 
thoughts?

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Re: Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently

[Bruce Hagen]

Danny Kile wrote:

If I send mail to my wife's netscape.net email accounts I get the following
response back.

When sent from my PC using SM Mail Client I get this error message:

"Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

  her-email-n...@netscape.net

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for
the recipient domain netscape.net by mailin-02.mx.aol.com. [64.12.88.164].

The error that the other server returned was:
550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected:
netscape.net"


When sent from my PC using WEB-Mail I get this error message:


":
152.163.0.68 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 : Recipient address
rejected: netscape.net
Giving up on 152.163.0.68."


It is as though Netscape has killed her email account or changed something
to keep her from receiving mail. This account has worked for the last 8
years. I myself have a Netscape.net e-mail account and I do not have this
problem. I would greatly appreciate the master minds of this forum to chime
in and give me some advice. Thank you in advance!

Thank you,   Danny




I can't give you a definitive answer, but a 550 error is a refusal to relay 
mail. That leads me to think that something has changed either with the 
Netscape account, or the ISP. Or AOL. (people still use that?).


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Re: New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

Daniel wrote:

On 24/10/2015 12:45 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the
number
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no
threads in
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the
threads to
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?



The first post in the thread is not underlined when there are new
unread
messages?


The first post in the thread is bold and the rest are underlined.




I don't see that here. The original post is not bold after being read
even with a reply.


Before you read the first post, it is bold, but not afterwards.





Well, sure. In a newsgroup one may have read the first post days ago.






Not if you set the application to download only unread messages.



I have been inside and out of SM and I do not see an option to only
download unread messages.



Probably because you don't download any messages (Read or Unread) until
you actually click on a message that you want to read.

Unless, of course, you have selected to download every message by
setting up File -> Offline -> Download/Sync Now to actually download
messages from the news server onto your hard drive so you can read them
whilst offline!




Which is kind of useless

My question was answered by WaltS48 on 10/21 so I'm going to leave it at 
that.


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Re: New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

Daniel wrote:

On 23/10/2015 10:50 AM, Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the
number
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no
threads in
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the
threads to
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?



The first post in the thread is not underlined when there are new
unread
messages?


The first post in the thread is bold and the rest are underlined.




I don't see that here. The original post is not bold after being read
even with a reply.


Before you read the first post, it is bold, but not afterwards.





Well, sure. In a newsgroup one may have read the first post days ago.


Bruce, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, if you set View->Threads
to "Threads with Unread" then you will only be shown the threads that
have messages that you have not read yet.

Doesn't this solve your problem??




My problem was solved by being told about the underline by WaltS48 which 
I thanked him for. The thread has just dragged on by posts that didn't 
pertain to me.


Thanks.

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Re: New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the
number
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no
threads in
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the
threads to
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?



The first post in the thread is not underlined when there are new
unread
messages?


The first post in the thread is bold and the rest are underlined.




I don't see that here. The original post is not bold after being read
even with a reply.


Before you read the first post, it is bold, but not afterwards.





Well, sure. In a newsgroup one may have read the first post days ago.






Not if you set the application to download only unread messages.



I have been inside and out of SM and I do not see an option to only 
download unread messages.



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Re: New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

EE wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the number
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no threads in
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the
threads to
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?



The first post in the thread is not underlined when there are new
unread
messages?


The first post in the thread is bold and the rest are underlined.




I don't see that here. The original post is not bold after being read
even with a reply.


Before you read the first post, it is bold, but not afterwards.





Well, sure. In a newsgroup one may have read the first post days ago.

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Re: News Sending Format

[Bruce Hagen]

WaltS48 wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

In one of the newsgroups I frequent HTML is preferred.

I went into Account Settings | Composition and Addressing and checked
to use HTML. Under Global Composing Preferences |  Send Format, I have
Send the message as formatted text (HTML)..Selected, not
"Ask me", but it does ask me anyway. I also added the
group to the HTML Domains, but that doesn't help.

Anyway to get rid of the "Ask me" prompt?




I think you will have to file a bug report.

I just tested your settings  (except for adding the group to the HTML
Domains) on this news server with a post to m.test and received the "Ask
Me" prompt.

Probably will get it with this post because I forgot to change the
Account Setting.

I'll select Plain Text. :)



Thanks for that. At least I know it's not just here.

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New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the number 
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no threads in 
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the threads to 
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?

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Re: New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

JAS wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the number
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no threads in
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the threads to
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?

Set the View to Unread instead of all




That helps. Thanks.

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Re: New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

WaltS48 wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the number
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no threads in
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the threads to
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?



The first post in the thread is not underlined when there are new unread
messages?




Never noticed that. Thanks.

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Re: News Sending Format

[Bruce Hagen]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/21/2015 12:38 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:

In one of the newsgroups I frequent HTML is preferred.

I went into Account Settings | Composition and Addressing and checked to
use HTML. Under Global Composing Preferences |  Send Format, I have Send
the message as formatted text (HTML)..Selected, not "Ask
me", but it does ask me anyway. I also added the group to
the HTML Domains, but that doesn't help.

Anyway to get rid of the "Ask me" prompt?




Which newsgroup?  Almost all request plain-text.




Microsoft Answers. Using the NNTP Bridge. Basically, the newsgroup is a 
back door. What is posted in the newsgroup ends up in the Web forum.


Been posting replies in MS newsgroups/forums since 2004.

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News Sending Format

[Bruce Hagen]

In one of the newsgroups I frequent HTML is preferred.

I went into Account Settings | Composition and Addressing and checked to 
use HTML. Under Global Composing Preferences |  Send Format, I have Send 
the message as formatted text (HTML)..Selected, not "Ask 
me", but it does ask me anyway. I also added the group to 
the HTML Domains, but that doesn't help.


Anyway to get rid of the "Ask me" prompt?


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Re: New News Replies

[Bruce Hagen]

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Bruce Hagen wrote:

Using SeaMonkey for news. When there are replies to threads the number
of unread shows next to the group as expected. However, no threads in
the message list are highlighted so I have to expand all the threads to
find the new posts. Any workaround for this?



The first post in the thread is not underlined when there are new unread
messages?


The first post in the thread is bold and the rest are underlined.




I don't see that here. The original post is not bold after being read 
even with a reply.


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Re: News Sending Format

[Bruce Hagen]

Burry wrote:

On 21.10.15 21:38, Bruce Hagen wrote:

In one of the newsgroups I frequent HTML is preferred.

I went into Account Settings | Composition and Addressing and checked to
use HTML. Under Global Composing Preferences |  Send Format, I have Send
the message as formatted text (HTML)..Selected, not "Ask
me", but it does ask me anyway. I also added the group to
the HTML Domains, but that doesn't help.

Anyway to get rid of the "Ask me" prompt?






Please tell us, which group that is, so we can avoid it.



Don't worry. You can't unless approved.
http://communitybridge2.codeplex.com/

If you were involved in helping Windows users, you would certainly like 
using a newsgroup rather than the web forum though.


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Re: News Sending Format

[Bruce Hagen]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/21/2015 12:51 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/21/2015 12:38 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:

In one of the newsgroups I frequent HTML is preferred.

I went into Account Settings | Composition and Addressing and checked to
use HTML. Under Global Composing Preferences |  Send Format, I have Send
the message as formatted text (HTML)..Selected, not "Ask
me", but it does ask me anyway. I also added the group to
the HTML Domains, but that doesn't help.

Anyway to get rid of the "Ask me" prompt?




Which newsgroup?  Almost all request plain-text.




Microsoft Answers. Using the NNTP Bridge. Basically, the newsgroup is a
back door. What is posted in the newsgroup ends up in the Web forum.

Been posting replies in MS newsgroups/forums since 2004.



Microsoft Answers is NOT a newsgroup.  It appears to be a Web-based
forum.  You mention an NNTP bridge.  What is the NAME of the NEWSGROUP
at the NNTP end of that bridge?



You're correct. Microsoft answers is not a newsgroup. MS dropped the 
newsgroups in 2009 and created MS Answers to replace them.


If you were familiar with the old MS newsgroups, they were the focal 
point. Someone came up with adapting the newsgroups with what was called 
the CDO for Window. It was the Web end of the newsgroups. What we have 
now is exactly the opposite.


The server name if you were to set it up is simply 127.0.0.1 using Port 120.

Here is a screenshot of my folder tree. 127.0.0.1 is named Answers. 
(Sorry, you have to copy & paste the link).


http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz341/bruceib/10-21-2015%207-46-36%20PM_zps62jpqawt.png 




As in my reply to Burry:

The NNTP Bridge
http://communitybridge2.codeplex.com/


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