Re: Inbox autocompacted, all mail disappeared
S. Beaulieu wrote: More info: I copied my Inbox from my backup and pasted it in its place in the profile. It's there. I deleted the Inbox.msf file. I relaunched SM. And my inbox is still empty. I checked that it's said to show all messages, and not only the unread ones. The Inbox file is there as is its content (checked it in Notepad). The Inbox.msf file got recreated. Just that one inbox from that one specific account is affected. Something is very wrong here. S. Check the local directory settings for the account. If they have been changed by accident, it could now be looking in the wrong place. If you have deliberately changed them from the default, make sure that it has not created a new set of files in the default location. SM has a bad habit of looking in the default location, even if you have told it the correct location for the local directory and if it finds files there, using them. If the local directory settings for the account is other than the default then you must make sure that the files in the default location are deleted. If something along these lines has happened make sure that any emails that have been downloaded into your new empty inbox are moved out to somewhere safe before you delete any files or else they will be lost. EM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Two profiles, I only created one
Monica wrote: Daniel wrote: Monica wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: [ goodness, please trim replies... ] On 3/22/2010 4:54 AM, Daniel wrote: O.K., Monica, forget the "Manage Profiles" bit for now. Just select Tools->Switch profiles and check out what the other profile/s contains. When you installed SM 2.0.x, it should have made a copy of your SM 1.1.xx profile (the .slt one) and called the new one ".default". If your SM 1 profile is still there, it will not have your latest email, for example, but would be complete upto your change-over date. Just check it out! Daniel But doesn't SM 1.x and SM 2.x each place their profile directories in different locations (by default)? Aren't the two profiles being discussed here in the same directory? That seems suspicious to me. Yes the two profiles are in the same directory! So, as Bill suggests, SM 2 installs it's profile somewhere different to SM 1, so someone changed somewhere. Or, Monica is it possible that you never set up the Mail & Newgroup side of SM 2, you just selected your old SM 1 profile and went on surfing?? That´s not possible since the profile sits in the correct SM2 directory. How would it have gotten there without me moving it there? Let´s skip the question on how the whole thing ever happened and move on to a solution. Simple question (again), can I just rename my working profile with the .slt ending and give it the ending .default, and delete the current .default one? Daniel Hi Monica - I'm back again. In either your browser or your mail window, you will see the item 'Tools' on the top menu bar. Click on this to bring up the menu list and the bottom item should be 'Switch Profiles'. This should tell you what profiles you currently have available to your current version on SM. If you want to be 100% safe, then copy the current active profile folder (the one with the latest dates on the files) to where you would like it to be and name it for yourself - you will have to close down all of SM to enable you to do this. You do not have to bother about any random numbers in the folder name. Once you have done this fire back up SM and go back into Switch Profiles, but this time click on the button in the bottom left corner, called Manage Profiles and when the next screen comes up, click on the Create Profile button. Click the next button and on the second screen, again enter your name for the profile. Once you have done this click on the Choose Folder button and browse to the new folder that you have created and select it. The narrative should change to confirm the correct folder. Then click Finish. This takes you back to the 'Select User Profile' screen and you can click on the new profile name and then on the Use Profile button. Make sure the 'Don't ask me at startup box is ticked. When you click on the Use Profile button SM should close down and re-open using the new profile. Check to make sure that everything is working as it should. At this point in time, you will know exactly which profile SM is using, the one with your name on it. You can then go back into Manage Profiles and delete everyone but your own. When you delete, it will ask you if you want to delete the files. Tell it yes. Whichever folder disappears will have been the folder that it was using. You can then manually delete the other folder, leaving only the one with your name on it. As mentioned previously, there is no need for your SM files to be stored in the Documents and Settings folder if you are the only user on your computer. You can create another folder and store them all in there, so long as you change the profile folder name and the location of all the mail account folders (including Local Folders) to that folder's location. If you then want to back up your emails and SM profile settings, you simply copy the entire folder to somewhere safe. Hope that this helps. EM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is anyone else having problems with Email Filters?
Bill Davidsen wrote: EnorMouse wrote: As I have in the past had problems with Junk filters producing false positives and in one particular case hiding an urgently needed email in the junk folder I do not use them. My old main email address has been out there for quite a few years and the amount of junk that I receive is staggering. To handle this I have created a large number of filters on this account and a set of junk folders into which it is transferred. By using different junk folders for different types of junk, I know that I can delete it without having to review it - anything with Viagra or Cialis (in their many and varied spellings) in the 'Subject' or 'From' for example. Other filers and folders need to be checked, for example anything that does not have my account name in the 'To' or 'Cc' gets sent to a folder called 'Circulars'. Most of these are junk but occasionally I will get a genuine circular where the Bcc feature has been used. I have some things I just delete without ever moving, too. But I haven't had a problem with 2.0.x yet, and I put a bunch of mail, news, and RSS feeds through many filters. So I have a lot of filters handling a lot of junk in several different ways. They were all working fine before my upgrade to SM 2. I am currently on SM 2.0.3 and the problems remain the same. Problem 1: Sometimes when I restart SM, particularly after a power down, the 'Enabled' box next to a number of filers becomes unticked. The selection of filters that this happens on seems to be random and changes each time it happens, both in terms of the number and choice of filters effected. Not seen. Problem 2: A lot of the time, even though all my filter are set up to run 'Checking Mail or Manually Run' I find items in the account Inbox which will be correctly moved when I run the 'Run Filters on Folder' manually. So far I have not identified if this relates to one particular filter or a number of them. My impression is that it tends to be filters which are looking into the body of the emails. Again, not seen. And I have a few early filters in my chain which do unconditionally save messages with certain things in the body. Problem 3: When saving filers I regularly get an error box stating "This filter cannot be saved because some search terms are invalid in the current context." No other information as to which search term is at fault is provided. One would be inclined to think that this would relate to the search term just added, but even if I delete them I continue to get the same message. If I continue to click on the Save button and OK the error message, it will normally save the filter and it works OK. Accordingly I rarely bother to try to identify which search term is at fault or why. I have never seen that. Are you using custom header fields? I use a few, to catch things coming from mailing lists. Anyone out there using filters a fair bit and encountering anything like this? No, I haven't seen the problem, although I'm certainly watching for it now. Do you use any particular extensions which might contribute? The only thing I run is autofill forms, and that's a browser rather than mail thing. The only extensions that I use are browser related, including things like Adblock Plus and BetterPrivacy. My filers are based on Subject, From and Body only and only use 'contain', 'doesn't contain' and 'is'. I have an initial White List filter that transfers messages from specific addresses to my main current account Inbox and tags them as having come from my old main account. Whenever I spot something new come in from a source that I want, I add it to this filter and by and large the bulk of what is getting past that first filter is junk. The problem that I have is keeping my eye out for the odd genuine one and I find it a lot easier to look through a number of folders with a limited number of messages in each rather than a single folder containing hundreds. Given that the number of junk emails coming into this account is between 500 and 1,000 a day, being able to strip out several hundred that I do not even have to think about is a great advantage and when everything works, it is only a few minutes work a day. I just find it annoying that it does not work at times and I can not figure out why. Some of the search criteria do contain slightly odd characters, to match the word forms used by the spammers, but I never seem to have a problems with my Russian filter which contains characters specific to the Russian alphabet and happily filers out all the Russian junk mail. I have even redone a number of filers and split them, so that one would only scan Subjects, another the Froms and a third the Bodies. I suspect that problem 2 mainly relates to Body filters, bu
Re: New mail accounts created in "wrong" location
EnorMouse wrote: Monica wrote: EnorMouse wrote: Monica wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Monica wrote: I am using SM 2.0.3. Windows XP pro sp3. After one of the last 2-3 SM updates (can´t remember exactly which one) the following happens when I create a new mail account; SM for some reason puts it in a "wrong" location on my hard drive. Before the update it put all my mail accounts in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\s0r5u2w5.slt\Mail\ After the update it puts it in a place that actually doesn´t really exist on my hard drive (SM creates it) C:\Program\Netscape\Users\Netscape 7.1\tng6b77b.slt\Mail\ I don´t have Netscape 7.1 on my computer! I have even tried to delete the mail accounts that have been placed there, and then deleted the created Netscape folder/subfolders from under Program and then tried to create the mail accounts again to get them in the right location. It does not work, SM continues to create that particular path to put all my new mail accounts in. Does anyone have a clue as to what could be going on here? Unless you are creating them in a new profile, no. If these are going in a new profile, maybe. When creating a new profile you can tune where things are put (I'm not running Windows so i won't assume it's identical to Linux). If you ever had Netscape on the machine there might be left-over cruft in the registry or other control location which has that string and directory. You can try creating another new profile and see if it offers to put it in NetScape... Quick detective work. No I´m not creating them in a new profile. However, in profile manager I can see a profile called "default" which I do not use, nor have I ever created it. I tried the trick you wrote about above, to create a new profile. It did not offer to put the new profile in Netscape, but under the same path as my "old" ones; in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ Could there be something strange going on with that "default" profile (which SM must have created when I upgraded), even though I don´t use it? Like Bill, I have no idea what SM is up to and have not added any accounts lately. As the sole user of my computer, I dislike the habit of programs to store their data in My Documents, or alongside the program files or in the Documents and Settings folders. I actually have a separate drive for data and try to point all of my programs to appropriate folders on it. This means that I can take separate backups of my programs and my data (including all my email files). Anyway, to fix your existing problem, copy the account folder to where you want it to be. Go into SM and the Account Settings and at the bottom of the Server Settings page you will see a box with the file location in. Change this to the new location and shut down SM. Rename or move to somewhere safe the old account folder - you will not be able to do this with any part of SM running as it will have locks on it. Fire back up SM and it should then find the account files in their new location. When you are happy that it is working correctly, you can delete the old account folder and files. Hope that this helps. Thank you EnorMouse, I did exactly what you wrote and it seems to work so far! However, when I tried to create another new mail account...sure enough it went straight into the "wrong" (Netscape) location! Is there anything I can delete somewhere to get rid of that Netscape path for good, and so that SM doesn´t create it again even after I have deleted it? And how about that extra profile "default" which I never created...should I just delete that? I do have to be slightly careful because I have everything pointed at E:\Mail & Newsgroups\SeaMonkey so things might not work quite the same way. I have just found out that clicking on the Profile Manager short-cut in my SeaMonkey menu just opens a copy of SM - there again I am not 100% sure that I bothered to install it, as I only work with my own single profile. Anyway, getting back to what I do feel happy to comment on, yes the trick of moving the folders is a one off and has to be done for every account. When I last set up a new account SM stuck it in my Documents & Settings folder and I had to go through the same procedure again. If you have a number of accounts to set up, you can set them all up first and then run through the same procedure for each of them in one go. Using Explorer, I know that the only location of my Profiles folder is also under E:\Mail & Newsgroups\SeaMonkey and I have a single folder under it with my own name on it. I do not have a second folder called 'Default'. It would seem that so long as you can confirm that you have an active profile sub-folder in your own name, you do not need the Default one as well. You might
Re: New mail accounts created in "wrong" location
Monica wrote: EnorMouse wrote: Monica wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Monica wrote: I am using SM 2.0.3. Windows XP pro sp3. After one of the last 2-3 SM updates (can´t remember exactly which one) the following happens when I create a new mail account; SM for some reason puts it in a "wrong" location on my hard drive. Before the update it put all my mail accounts in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\s0r5u2w5.slt\Mail\ After the update it puts it in a place that actually doesn´t really exist on my hard drive (SM creates it) C:\Program\Netscape\Users\Netscape 7.1\tng6b77b.slt\Mail\ I don´t have Netscape 7.1 on my computer! I have even tried to delete the mail accounts that have been placed there, and then deleted the created Netscape folder/subfolders from under Program and then tried to create the mail accounts again to get them in the right location. It does not work, SM continues to create that particular path to put all my new mail accounts in. Does anyone have a clue as to what could be going on here? Unless you are creating them in a new profile, no. If these are going in a new profile, maybe. When creating a new profile you can tune where things are put (I'm not running Windows so i won't assume it's identical to Linux). If you ever had Netscape on the machine there might be left-over cruft in the registry or other control location which has that string and directory. You can try creating another new profile and see if it offers to put it in NetScape... Quick detective work. No I´m not creating them in a new profile. However, in profile manager I can see a profile called "default" which I do not use, nor have I ever created it. I tried the trick you wrote about above, to create a new profile. It did not offer to put the new profile in Netscape, but under the same path as my "old" ones; in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ Could there be something strange going on with that "default" profile (which SM must have created when I upgraded), even though I don´t use it? Like Bill, I have no idea what SM is up to and have not added any accounts lately. As the sole user of my computer, I dislike the habit of programs to store their data in My Documents, or alongside the program files or in the Documents and Settings folders. I actually have a separate drive for data and try to point all of my programs to appropriate folders on it. This means that I can take separate backups of my programs and my data (including all my email files). Anyway, to fix your existing problem, copy the account folder to where you want it to be. Go into SM and the Account Settings and at the bottom of the Server Settings page you will see a box with the file location in. Change this to the new location and shut down SM. Rename or move to somewhere safe the old account folder - you will not be able to do this with any part of SM running as it will have locks on it. Fire back up SM and it should then find the account files in their new location. When you are happy that it is working correctly, you can delete the old account folder and files. Hope that this helps. Thank you EnorMouse, I did exactly what you wrote and it seems to work so far! However, when I tried to create another new mail account...sure enough it went straight into the "wrong" (Netscape) location! Is there anything I can delete somewhere to get rid of that Netscape path for good, and so that SM doesn´t create it again even after I have deleted it? And how about that extra profile "default" which I never created...should I just delete that? I do have to be slightly careful because I have everything pointed at E:\Mail & Newsgroups\SeaMonkey so things might not work quite the same way. I have just found out that clicking on the Profile Manager short-cut in my SeaMonkey menu just opens a copy of SM - there again I am not 100% sure that I bothered to install it, as I only work with my own single profile. Anyway, getting back to what I do feel happy to comment on, yes the trick of moving the folders is a one off and has to be done for every account. When I last set up a new account SM stuck it in my Documents & Settings folder and I had to go through the same procedure again. If you have a number of accounts to set up, you can set them all up first and then run through the same procedure for each of them in one go. Using Explorer, I know that the only location of my Profiles folder is also under E:\Mail & Newsgroups\SeaMonkey and I have a single folder under it with my own name on it. I do not have a second folder called 'Default'. It would seem that so long as you can confirm that you have an active profile sub-folder in your own name, you do not need the Default one as well. You might like to check out the
Is anyone else having problems with Email Filters?
As I have in the past had problems with Junk filters producing false positives and in one particular case hiding an urgently needed email in the junk folder I do not use them. My old main email address has been out there for quite a few years and the amount of junk that I receive is staggering. To handle this I have created a large number of filters on this account and a set of junk folders into which it is transferred. By using different junk folders for different types of junk, I know that I can delete it without having to review it - anything with Viagra or Cialis (in their many and varied spellings) in the 'Subject' or 'From' for example. Other filers and folders need to be checked, for example anything that does not have my account name in the 'To' or 'Cc' gets sent to a folder called 'Circulars'. Most of these are junk but occasionally I will get a genuine circular where the Bcc feature has been used. So I have a lot of filters handling a lot of junk in several different ways. They were all working fine before my upgrade to SM 2. I am currently on SM 2.0.3 and the problems remain the same. Problem 1: Sometimes when I restart SM, particularly after a power down, the 'Enabled' box next to a number of filers becomes unticked. The selection of filters that this happens on seems to be random and changes each time it happens, both in terms of the number and choice of filters effected. Problem 2: A lot of the time, even though all my filter are set up to run 'Checking Mail or Manually Run' I find items in the account Inbox which will be correctly moved when I run the 'Run Filters on Folder' manually. So far I have not identified if this relates to one particular filter or a number of them. My impression is that it tends to be filters which are looking into the body of the emails. Problem 3: When saving filers I regularly get an error box stating "This filter cannot be saved because some search terms are invalid in the current context." No other information as to which search term is at fault is provided. One would be inclined to think that this would relate to the search term just added, but even if I delete them I continue to get the same message. If I continue to click on the Save button and OK the error message, it will normally save the filter and it works OK. Accordingly I rarely bother to try to identify which search term is at fault or why. Anyone out there using filters a fair bit and encountering anything like this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New mail accounts created in "wrong" location
Monica wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Monica wrote: I am using SM 2.0.3. Windows XP pro sp3. After one of the last 2-3 SM updates (can´t remember exactly which one) the following happens when I create a new mail account; SM for some reason puts it in a "wrong" location on my hard drive. Before the update it put all my mail accounts in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\s0r5u2w5.slt\Mail\ After the update it puts it in a place that actually doesn´t really exist on my hard drive (SM creates it) C:\Program\Netscape\Users\Netscape 7.1\tng6b77b.slt\Mail\ I don´t have Netscape 7.1 on my computer! I have even tried to delete the mail accounts that have been placed there, and then deleted the created Netscape folder/subfolders from under Program and then tried to create the mail accounts again to get them in the right location. It does not work, SM continues to create that particular path to put all my new mail accounts in. Does anyone have a clue as to what could be going on here? Unless you are creating them in a new profile, no. If these are going in a new profile, maybe. When creating a new profile you can tune where things are put (I'm not running Windows so i won't assume it's identical to Linux). If you ever had Netscape on the machine there might be left-over cruft in the registry or other control location which has that string and directory. You can try creating another new profile and see if it offers to put it in NetScape... Quick detective work. No I´m not creating them in a new profile. However, in profile manager I can see a profile called "default" which I do not use, nor have I ever created it. I tried the trick you wrote about above, to create a new profile. It did not offer to put the new profile in Netscape, but under the same path as my "old" ones; in C:\Documents and Settings\Administratör\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ Could there be something strange going on with that "default" profile (which SM must have created when I upgraded), even though I don´t use it? Like Bill, I have no idea what SM is up to and have not added any accounts lately. As the sole user of my computer, I dislike the habit of programs to store their data in My Documents, or alongside the program files or in the Documents and Settings folders. I actually have a separate drive for data and try to point all of my programs to appropriate folders on it. This means that I can take separate backups of my programs and my data (including all my email files). Anyway, to fix your existing problem, copy the account folder to where you want it to be. Go into SM and the Account Settings and at the bottom of the Server Settings page you will see a box with the file location in. Change this to the new location and shut down SM. Rename or move to somewhere safe the old account folder - you will not be able to do this with any part of SM running as it will have locks on it. Fire back up SM and it should then find the account files in their new location. When you are happy that it is working correctly, you can delete the old account folder and files. Hope that this helps. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
