Re: Ability to block sites, using strings?

2013-03-09 Thread Jane Galt
"Paul B. Gallagher"   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
> 
>> "Paul B. Gallagher"   wrote :
>>
>>> I tried this search on Google, it seemed to work fine:
>>>   cameras -site:pricegrabber.com
>>>
>>> I didn't see any instances of cameras.pricegrabber.com in the results.
>>
>> Yeah but unless I can make a list, I gotta minus every shopping site for
>> every search I do.
> 
> Well, you can't establish a blocklist for Google's hit list, if that's 
> what you're asking.
> 
> But there are plenty of ad blockers if that's what you're after. See for 
> example <http://adblockplus.org/>.
> 

Google just did away with their block list and it didn't work well anyway.

For example, I could put in pricegrabber.com, wanting to block the whole 
site, which has only served up irrelevant searches, but it wouldn't block all 
variants, like cameras.pricegrabber.com

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Re: Ability to block sites, using strings?

2013-03-07 Thread Jane Galt
"Paul B. Gallagher"   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
> 
>> WOuld like to request this feature in SM.
>>
>> Google had a blocked sites feature that didn't work out, and I imagine
>> the reason was that it couldn't use text strings to successfully do so.
>>
>> Example, I want to block ALL of pricegrabber.com from my search
>> results, because they give nothing but useless shopping results, trying
>> to sell me crap that I don't want. BUT cameras.pricegrabber.com would
>> still show up, even though I blocked pricegrabber.com in Google.
>>
>> So it needs to be anything with the pricegrabber.com string in it.
>>
>> CAN this be done on the browser level, instead of the search engine
>> level? So that if I put the string pricegrabber.com in the blocked
>> sites list, NOTHING will show up in my browser that has that string?
> 
> I tried this search on Google, it seemed to work fine:
>  cameras -site:pricegrabber.com
> 
> I didn't see any instances of cameras.pricegrabber.com in the results.
> 

Yeah but unless I can make a list, I gotta minus every shopping site for 
every search I do.

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Ability to block sites, using strings?

2013-03-05 Thread Jane Galt
WOuld like to request this feature in SM.

Google had a blocked sites feature that didn't work out, and I imagine the 
reason was that it couldn't use text strings to successfully do so.

Example, I want to block ALL of pricegrabber.com from my search results, 
because they give nothing but useless shopping results, trying to sell me 
crap that I don't want. BUT cameras.pricegrabber.com would still show up, 
even though I blocked pricegrabber.com in Google.

So it needs to be anything with the pricegrabber.com string in it.

CAN this be done on the browser level, instead of the search engine level? So 
that if I put the string pricegrabber.com in the blocked sites list, NOTHING 
will show up in my browser that has that string?

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SOLVED Re: SM mail opening PDF attachments wrong way

2012-12-27 Thread Jane Galt
Ed Mullen   wrote :

> Ed Mullen wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> My sister's PC ( Win 7 ) is using the latest SM and she uses the mail in
>>> there. I don't because I've always used Pegasus, but she does.
>>>
>>> And it's doing the weirdest thing.
>>>
>>> I send her a PDF attachment and when I double click on it in her PC in
>>> the SM
>>> mail, it opens a blue screen in Windows Media Center and doesn't even
>>> open
>>> the PDF!
>>>
>>> I checked in the Control Panel file associations and they're set to
>>> open PDF
>>> files with Adobe reader.
>>>
>>> So why is it doing this?
>>>
>>> There appears to be no file associations settings in the SM email itself.
>>>
>>
>> With no more info than this I'd have to guess an errant add-in/plug-in
>> screwing things up.
>>
> 
> On second thought ...
> 
> In SeaMonkey click Edit - Preferences - Browser - Helper Applications. 
> Scroll down to PDF Document, click to highlight.  See what is listed in 
> the action column.  If it says Use Windows Media Center that's the 
> problem.  Click the down arrow on the right and choose an appropriate 
> action.
> 

THANKS! WORKED!

Yeah, for PDF-X it had media center selected.

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Re: SM mail opening PDF attachments wrong way

2012-12-25 Thread Jane Galt
Ed Mullen   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> My sister's PC ( Win 7 ) is using the latest SM and she uses the mail
>> in there. I don't because I've always used Pegasus, but she does.
>>
>> And it's doing the weirdest thing.
>>
>> I send her a PDF attachment and when I double click on it in her PC in
>> the SM mail, it opens a blue screen in Windows Media Center and doesn't
>> even open the PDF!
>>
>> I checked in the Control Panel file associations and they're set to
>> open PDF files with Adobe reader.
>>
>> So why is it doing this?
>>
>> There appears to be no file associations settings in the SM email
>> itself. 
>>
> 
> With no more info than this I'd have to guess an errant add-in/plug-in 
> screwing things up.
> 

The weird thing is that she doesn't even WANT Windows Media Center on her PC. 
She never uses it and this annoys her. So I uninstalled it with Control 
Panel, only to have it start up again right after that! ( OK I didn't reboot, 
but... )

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SM mail opening PDF attachments wrong way

2012-12-25 Thread Jane Galt
My sister's PC ( Win 7 ) is using the latest SM and she uses the mail in 
there. I don't because I've always used Pegasus, but she does.

And it's doing the weirdest thing.

I send her a PDF attachment and when I double click on it in her PC in the SM 
mail, it opens a blue screen in Windows Media Center and doesn't even open 
the PDF!

I checked in the Control Panel file associations and they're set to open PDF 
files with Adobe reader. 

So why is it doing this?

There appears to be no file associations settings in the SM email itself.

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Re: [Solved] Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-16 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 11/14/2012 05:54 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> I JUST SOLVED IT!
>> 
>> I had it set to load all images, BUT under permissions, I'd somehow
>> blocked it from loading Google ones, which I didn't realize Captcha
>> came from! I got rid of the whole permissions thing for Google and it
>> works now on that Backpage site!
>> 
>> WHEW!!!
>> 
> 
> It's helpful to others if you put a '[Solved]' (or similar) in the
> subject line. This way others who may not have read the entire thread
> will know that you've solved the issue & won't waste time/effort trying
> to help further.
> 
> 

Ok thanks!
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-16 Thread Jane Galt
Daniel   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I JUST SOLVED IT!
>>
>> I had it set to load all images, BUT under permissions, I'd somehow
>> blocked it from loading Google ones, which I didn't realize Captcha
>> came from! I got rid of the whole permissions thing for Google and it
>> works now on that Backpage site!
>>
>> WHEW!!!
>>
> 
> Success!!! Go to hear, Jane!!
> 

Thanks Daniel!
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-14 Thread Jane Galt
I JUST SOLVED IT!

I had it set to load all images, BUT under permissions, I'd somehow blocked 
it from loading Google ones, which I didn't realize Captcha came from! I got 
rid of the whole permissions thing for Google and it works now on that 
Backpage site!

WHEW!!!

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-14 Thread Jane Galt
Rufus   wrote :

> Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>
>>> No, or repost it please ...
>>
>> http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den
>> /posting.denver.backpage.com/?u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.c
>> om§ion=4378&category=4428&superRegion=Denver 
>>
>>
>> but you won't see it there because it is on the next page :-(
>>
>> Philip Taylor
> 
> You have to enter enough of an "ad" to get to the validation page...I 
> did, and it worked for me.
> 

I've checked all my settings, tried it with plugins shut off, I don't know 
what else to do.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-14 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote, On 13/11/2012 22:23:
>> Ray_Net   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote, On 13/11/2012 01:46:
>>>> Ray_Net   wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Jane Galt wrote, On 12/11/2012 18:29:
>>>>>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
>>>>>> have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Is this site not working ? http://www.hellocaptcha.com/
>>>> Yeah that one works, but only about 10% of actual captcha sites show up
>>>> for me in SM.
>>>>
>>> Is this one
>>> http://www.randoevasion.be/index.php?option=com_users&view=registration&l
>>> ang=fr
>>>
>>> also giving problem ?
>> No, that one works fine, I can see the stuff.
>>
>>> If this one is also working wellYou should post an url where you
>>> have the problem and where we can see it.
>> I did.
> Philip gives me your url... I have tested it works for me.
> 
> Without entering data, Could you test this one (it's the same as yours)
>   http://www.google.com/recaptcha/learnmore
> does it works for you ?
> 

That one doesn't work for me, all I see is a white blank box.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-14 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote, On 13/11/2012 22:23:
>> Ray_Net   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote, On 13/11/2012 01:46:
>>>> Ray_Net   wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Jane Galt wrote, On 12/11/2012 18:29:
>>>>>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
>>>>>> have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Is this site not working ? http://www.hellocaptcha.com/
>>>> Yeah that one works, but only about 10% of actual captcha sites show up
>>>> for me in SM.
>>>>
>>> Is this one
>>> http://www.randoevasion.be/index.php?option=com_users&view=registration&l
>>> ang=fr
>>>
>>> also giving problem ?
>> No, that one works fine, I can see the stuff.
>>
>>> If this one is also working wellYou should post an url where you
>>> have the problem and where we can see it.
>> I did.
> No, or repost it please ...
> 

When posting ads at http://denver.backpage.com/
is the most recent.

I don't understand why some show up ok on other sites and on some they don't. 
About 80% don't.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-13 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote, On 13/11/2012 01:46:
>> Ray_Net   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote, On 12/11/2012 18:29:
>>>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
>>>> have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>>>
>>>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>>>
>>> Is this site not working ? http://www.hellocaptcha.com/
>> Yeah that one works, but only about 10% of actual captcha sites show up
>> for me in SM.
>>
> Is this one 
> http://www.randoevasion.be/index.php?option=com_users&view=registration&l
> ang=fr 
> 
> also giving problem ?

No, that one works fine, I can see the stuff. 

> 
> If this one is also working wellYou should post an url where you 
> have the problem and where we can see it.

I did.
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-13 Thread Jane Galt
Rick Merrill   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Just did the disable thing with all the add ons and restarted. Still
>> cant see the Captcha at the backpage site when I try to place an ad.
>>
> 
> Do you have Javascript enabled for browser?
> 
> 

Yes, all of it.
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-13 Thread Jane Galt
WaltS   wrote :

> On 11/13/2012 10:22 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> Just did the disable thing with all the add ons and restarted. Still
>>> cant see the Captcha at the backpage site when I try to place an ad.
>>>
>>
>> Do you have Javascript enabled for browser?
>>
> 
> "View All Images" must also be enabled.
> 

'Tis.
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-13 Thread Jane Galt
"Paul B. Gallagher"   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
> 
>> You know what's odd? I restarted it with add ons disabled, then
>> opened the add ons window and a lot of them are still there.
> 
> They're still there because they're still installed. Look carefully to 
> see if they're disabled or not.

I wonder if there's just a way to uninstall all of them en masse and see if 
that helps? It's also kicking me over to the bookmarks when I visit a lot of 
web sites, which is grating on me. I HATE Internet Explorer but it works, and 
I need SM to work right.

>> I'd also like to find out what's causing it to flip into the open
>> bookmarks page, when I visit some sites.
> 
> Known issue with Flash, discussed here many times in the past couple of 
> months. There's even a workaround, posted many times.

I wasn't reading this whole group. Is there a web archive?



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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Rufus   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Rufus   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> WaltS   wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
>>>>>> have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
>>>>>
>>>>> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice,
>>>>> otherwise it IS HARD to help.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den
>>>> /post ing.denver.backpage.com/?
>>>> u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=
4428
>>>> &superRegion=Denver
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...looks like you actually have to write and post an ad before they 
will
>>> verify you.  Got another example?
>>>
>>
>> NO, they all do that.
>>
> 
> ...ok.  So...I entered a partial fake ad, and I can see the Captcha 
there.
> 
> You probably have some Pref not set right, as others have suggested.
> 

You know what's odd? I restarted it with add ons disabled, then opened the 
add ons window and a lot of them are still there.

What prefs could be doing this?

I'd also like to find out what's causing it to flip into the open bookmarks 
page, when I visit some sites.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Just did the disable thing with all the add ons and restarted. Still cant see 
the Captcha at the backpage site when I try to place an ad.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Philip TAYLOR   wrote :

> 
> 
> Jane Galt wrote:
> 
>> I told you. This hasnt worked since sometime in version 2 of SM and I'm
>> getting pretty sick of filling out an entire form page, then the captcha
>> isn't there and I have to go to Internet Explorer and re-enter it all.
> 
> In general, if the entire world isn't complaining that Seamonkey can
> no longer handle Captchas, it is pretty safe to assume that Seamonkey
> /qua/ Seamonkey is not at fault and that your own customisation
> (intentional or otherwise) may well be to blame.
> 
> Try safe mode, try a clean profile, try disabling everything;
> almost certainly one or more of these will work and disclose
> the root cause of your problem.
> 
> Philip Taylor
> 

Could it be my 64 bit OS?

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Philip TAYLOR   wrote :

> With that many plugs-in, I would try safe mode
> and see if that helps.

Just did, didn't help. 

Never knew about it before though. Thanks. Handy.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Rufus   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> WaltS   wrote :
>>
>>> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
>>>> have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>>>
>>>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>>>
>>>
>>> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
>>>
>>> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice,
>>> otherwise it IS HARD to help.
>>>
>>
>> http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den
>> /post ing.denver.backpage.com/?
>> u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
>> &superRegion=Denver
>>
> 
> ...looks like you actually have to write and post an ad before they will
> verify you.  Got another example?
> 

NO, they all do that.
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote, On 12/11/2012 18:29:
>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
>> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>
>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>
> Is this site not working ? http://www.hellocaptcha.com/

Yeah that one works, but only about 10% of actual captcha sites show up for 
me in SM.

> WHAT IS *YOUR* PROBLEM ?

I told you. This hasnt worked since sometime in version 2 of SM and I'm 
getting pretty sick of filling out an entire form page, then the captcha 
isn't there and I have to go to Internet Explorer and re-enter it all.

 

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Philip TAYLOR   wrote :

> How can we know, if you do not cite URLs, Seamonkey
> version, platform, plugs-in, adds-on, and so on ?
> 
> Philip Taylor
> ----Jane Galt wrote:> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on 
> most sites! Then I have to
> > open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
> >
> > WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
> 

SM 2.13.2
Win 7 Home Premium

The latest:

http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/po
sting.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver

There are a ton of plugins, how to I get them all in text form to list 
here? Oh wait... copied the whole page:



Enabled plugins
Find more information about browser plugins at mozilla.org.
Find updates for installed plugins at mozilla.com/plugincheck.
Help for installing plugins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org.
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File: NPSWF32_11_4_402_287.dll
Version: 11.4.402.287
Shockwave Flash 11.4 r402

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
application/x-shockwave-flash   Adobe Flash movie   swf
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Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U37

File: npjp2.dll
Version: 6.0.370.6
Next Generation Java Plug-in 1.6.0_37 for Mozilla browsers

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NPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
Michael Gordon   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
>> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>
>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>
> 
> Check your preferences, you could have limited how images are displayed, 
> blocked "third party images", etc.

Set to load all images, as many times as...

> The "captcha" is an image created by the server you connect with for the 
> web page.  Some servers you connect to with a captcha are themselves 
> third party servers, and the captcha image is created by another server 
> creating random images.
> 
> Michael G
> 

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
WaltS   wrote :

> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
>> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>
>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>
> 
> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
> 
> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise 
> it IS HARD to help.
> 

http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
ing.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver

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Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

2012-11-12 Thread Jane Galt
I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to 
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jane--Galt
MCBastos   wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 03/10/2011 06:14, Ray_Net told the world:
> 
>> bookmarks.html 73KB
>> places.sqlite 21MB = 287 * 73KB
>> 
>> 287 times more disk space - aie !
> 
> Unfair comparison. Places does more than storing bookmarks. It also
> stores history, for instance. AND it also stores the site icons
> (favicons), which do take a bit of space -- more than one line of text
> (which is what a bookmark is, essentially), at least.
> 

I like a lot of history, it makes things very convenient, but they need to 
find some way to speed up the loading from that Bookmarks button and make it 
stop being eratic.

Perhaps they could separate the history stuff from the raw bookmarks file?

I think my bookmarks alone were just about 3.4 megs.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jane--Galt
MCBastos   wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 03/10/2011 00:35, Jane--Galt told the world:
> 
>> Oh. I've been a fan of Netscape browsers since around 1994 when I first
>> got on the net - Navigator, which I suppose eventually evolved into
>> Seamonkey in the nearest form to that original? I thought they resided
>> in something called Bookmarks.html
> 
> They used to... up to Seamonkey 2.0.x. The big thing in Seamonkey 2.1
> was exactly introducing the new database-based "Places" system, which
> Firefox had since version 3.
> 

And that appears to be exactly when I started having these stalled bookmark 
button problems.

In fact I recall uninstalling 2.0 for awhile and using 1.x instead, because 
of it.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-03 Thread Jane--Galt
Jay Garcia   wrote :

> On 02.10.2011 23:39, Philip Chee wrote:
> 
>  --- Original Message ---
> 
>> On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:35:31 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote:
>>> Stanimir Stamenkov   wrote :
>> 
>>>> So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
>>>> if it would make any difference?
>>> 
>>> Yes, it makes no difference.
>> 
>> Can you try installing and running this extension?
>> 
>> <http://www.andyhalford.com/checkplaces/>
>> 
>> CheckPlaces is a Firefox/SeaMonkey extension that allows you to check
>> your bookmarks in different ways. There is a basic check of your
>> bookmarks, and optional checks that the pages still exist, duplicate
>> bookmarks, and empty folders. You can also use it to restore favicons
>> that have gone missing, and compact and check the integrity of the
>> Places database.
>> 
>> =
>> 
>> Try compacting and checking the integrity of your Places database.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
> 
> Be VERY VERY careful with that extension, it completely wiped out my
> personal toolbar as well as other very important bookmarks, etc. Luckily
> there is a restore function from the .json file. It also marks other
> current valid bookmarks as "questionable", "failed" and so on.
> 
> 

Uh, no thanks then.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
Stanimir Stamenkov   wrote :

> Sun, 02 Oct 2011 16:45:25 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:
>> Stanimir Stamenkov   wrote :
>>> Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:50:27 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:
>>>
>>>> But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
>>>> people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?
>>>
>>> Just to get some figures, how huge is your "places.sqlite" file?
>>
>> 62 megs, but what's that got to do with bookmarks?
> 
> That's where your bookmarks (and browsing history) get stored, if 
> you didn't know:

Oh. I've been a fan of Netscape browsers since around 1994 when I first got 
on the net - Navigator, which I suppose eventually evolved into Seamonkey 
in the nearest form to that original? I thought they resided in something 
called Bookmarks.html

> 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files
> 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.sqlite
> 
> The second article links to "Locked or damaged places.sqlite" 
><http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locked_or_damaged_places.sqlite> which 
> suggests a damaged "places.sqlite" may cause hangs.  You may further 
> read:
> 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs#Places_database
> 
>>>> We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to
>>>> open bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and
>>>> wait each time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them
>>>> that way.
>>>
>>> So invoking the Bookmarks Manager using Ctrl+B opens it faster than
>>> the Bookmarks menu?
>>
>> Yes, right away.
>>
>>> Could it be some of your installed extensions
>>> interfering and blocking the UI?
>>
>> No, I did fresh installs with no extensions, just importing my BM's,
>> and it still did it. I have few extensions. Just Tinyurl, I think.
>>
>>>  Try starting with all add-ons
>>> disabled to see if it would make any difference: Help -> Restart
>>> with Add-ons Disabled.
> 
> So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
> if it would make any difference?
> 

Yes, it makes no difference.


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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
Stanimir Stamenkov   wrote :

> Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:50:27 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:
> 
>> But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
>> people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?
> 
> Just to get some figures, how huge is your "places.sqlite" file?

62 megs, but what's that got to do with bookmarks?

>> We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to
>> open bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and
>> wait each time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that
>> way. 
> 
> So invoking the Bookmarks Manager using Ctrl+B opens it faster than 
> the Bookmarks menu?

Yes, right away.

> Could it be some of your installed extensions 
> interfering and blocking the UI?

No, I did fresh installs with no extensions, just importing my BM's, and it 
still did it. I have few extensions. Just Tinyurl, I think.

>  Try starting with all add-ons 
> disabled to see if it would make any difference: Help -> Restart 
> with Add-ons Disabled.
> 

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
"Jane--Galt"   wrote :

> I just got a new sub-release of SM - 2.4.1, which says it improves
> memory use and patches some things.
> 
> But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
> people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?
> 
> We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to
> open bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and
> wait each time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that
> way. 
> 
> Come on guys!
> 
> 

Oh, another thing to mention. While I'm typing words into the Google search 
box, I get double ghost images of the words. Is that SM doing this?

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When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
I just got a new sub-release of SM - 2.4.1, which says it improves memory use 
and patches some things.

But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for people 
who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?

We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to open 
bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and wait each 
time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that way.

Come on guys!

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Re: Can I save a set of search tabs?

2011-10-01 Thread Jane--Galt
"Justin Wood (Callek)"   wrote :

> Jane--Galt wrote:
>> I go into Adwords daily, to adjust my bids on 5 or 6 different sets of
>> key words. So I open the Adwords page where my keyword bids are, then 6
>> other tabs to do the keyword set searches for each set and see where
>> the results place for my site.
>>
>> Is it possible to save the entire set  of 7 tabs, so I can just do a
>> single click and open them all to where I had them?
>>
> 
> I'm not sure how bookmarkable these pages are in AdWords, but assuming 
> that you can bookmark directly to them:
> 
> With all those tabs open in your window (and no others):
> * Bookmarks Menu
> * "Bookmark this group of tabs..."
> * Name the group/folder
> * Select WHERE to place that group/folder
> * If you place the folder on your bookmarks toolbar, you can right-click
> and "Open All In Tabs"
> * If not you can select the Open All In Tabs option from the folder in 
> the bookmark list anyway.
> 

Thanks!

Great!

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Can I save a set of search tabs?

2011-10-01 Thread Jane--Galt
I go into Adwords daily, to adjust my bids on 5 or 6 different sets of key 
words. So I open the Adwords page where my keyword bids are, then 6 other 
tabs to do the keyword set searches for each set and see where the results 
place for my site.

Is it possible to save the entire set  of 7 tabs, so I can just do a single 
click and open them all to where I had them?

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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-27 Thread Jane--Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 08/26/2011 11:01 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> ...
>> Anyway, this is all off-topic, so I'll stop there.
>> 
> 
> Yes it is & please do.


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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-26 Thread Jane--Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 08/26/2011 06:18 PM, Jane--Galt wrote:
> ...
>> Please!
> 
> Yes. Please take this elsewhere.
> 
> 

The socialist has hi say, then you tell ME to take it elsewhere?

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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-26 Thread Jane--Galt
"Paul B. Gallagher"   wrote :

> Jane--Galt wrote:
> 
>> "Paul B. Gallagher"   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane--Galt wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just got rid of ...  Media Matters marxist propaganda. Good
>>>> riddance.
>>>
>>> ROTFLMAO! Good one!
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. :)
> 
> You evidently missed the point -- that calling "Media Matters" "Marxist 
> propaganda" is preposterous (you evidently haven't read it, or else you 
> don't know anything about Marxism). But it's all part of the right-wing 
> slander machine: anyone who disagrees with you must be a commie pinko 
> fag out to destroy all we hold dear.

I'm neither left wing or right wing, and yes, Media Matters is definitely a 
communist site IMO.

> Next you'll be telling us that Barack Obama, the most conservative 
> Democratic president of my lifetime (forget his words, look at his 
> actions), is a socialist bent on enslaving us

ROFL!  As if THAT needed proving, given all his actions so far!

You DO recall him being mentored throughout his teens, by Frank Marshall 
Davis, a self avowed COMMUNIST?!

Anyone with more than 2 brain cells gets it by now!

> all by denying insurance 
> companies their God-given profits.

All by trashing the entire business infrastructure of this country and 
working as hard and fast as he can to collapse us!!!

> But when push came to shove, he 
> refused to even consider the public option, so you should be thanking 
> him for toeing your line.

BULLSHIT!  I've seen their behind the scenes videos of them saying that 
Obama"Care" is just a stepping stone to suck us into socialist medicine. ( 
You can drop that "single payer" horseshit! Everyone KNOWS what it means by 
now! )

> Anyway, this is all off-topic, so I'll stop there.

Please!


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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-25 Thread Jane--Galt
"Paul B. Gallagher"   wrote :

> Jane--Galt wrote:
> 
>> I just got rid of ...  Media Matters marxist propaganda. Good
>> riddance.
> 
> ROTFLMAO! Good one!
> 

Thanks. :) 

Yeah, that Google setting can hold up to 500 sites, and apparently they don't 
place the option on all search results, you gotta open the settings and drop 
the scum into the plonk bucket.

I'm also planning on dunking those obnoxious shopping sites. You know, the 
ones where you search for something you want to buy, and they lure you there 
with the results, and what you wanted is nowhere to be seen, only a thousand 
things you weren't searching for?  Plonk!

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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-25 Thread Jane--Galt
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty"   wrote :

> Jane--Galt wrote:
> 
>> Just tried it - it doesn't prevent a site from coming up in Google
>> results, which is what I needed.
> 
> Now you've asked a totally different question...
> 

Yeah, I found the setting in my google options now, thanks guys.

I just got rid of some really obnoxious sites like alibaba ( a chinese 
wholesale site that keeps showing up every time I want to buy something 
retail ) and Media Matters marxist propaganda. Good riddance.

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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-24 Thread Jane--Galt
Here's actually what I was looking for:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-sites-to-find-more-of-what-
you.html


But it hasnt been consistent. I don't see block options next to every site, 
even though I'm logged in. Not sure what's up with that.

But I just found out how to go into my settings and manually block a site I 
didn't like.

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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-24 Thread Jane--Galt
"David E. Ross"   wrote :

> On 8/24/11 7:12 PM, Jane--Galt wrote:
>> "d...@kd4e.com"   wrote :
>> 
>>> Try http://opendns.com <http://opendns.com>
>>>
>>> Their basic package is free and an added-feature package is
>>> $9./yr or something like that.
>>>
>>> They have generic blocks e.g. gambling, porn, etc. and an
>>> area where you may block, or permit (whitelist), specific
>>> URL's.
>>>
>>> They have a Forum where you can ask questions.
>>>
>>>> Jane--Galt wrote:
>>>> How can I block websites using seamonkey?
>>>>
>>>> I tried installing Blocksite and it won't work with 2.3.
>>>
>> 
>> I just want to block individual sites of my choice, not whole categories.
>> 
> 
> Try AdBlock Plus from <http://adblockplus.org/en/>.  Although it is
> intended to block advertisements, it can be used to block any domain or
> specific URI you choose.
> 

Just tried it - it doesn't prevent a site from coming up in Google results, 
which is what I needed.

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Re: How can I block websites?

2011-08-24 Thread Jane--Galt
"d...@kd4e.com"   wrote :

> Try http://opendns.com <http://opendns.com>
> 
> Their basic package is free and an added-feature package is
> $9./yr or something like that.
> 
> They have generic blocks e.g. gambling, porn, etc. and an
> area where you may block, or permit (whitelist), specific
> URL's.
> 
> They have a Forum where you can ask questions.
> 
> > Jane--Galt wrote:
>> How can I block websites using seamonkey?
>>
>> I tried installing Blocksite and it won't work with 2.3.
> 

I just want to block individual sites of my choice, not whole categories.

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How can I block websites?

2011-08-24 Thread Jane--Galt
How can I block websites using seamonkey?

I tried installing Blocksite and it won't work with 2.3.

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Re: SUGGESTION

2011-08-19 Thread Jane--Galt
"Jane--Galt"   wrote :

> Jay Garcia   wrote :
> 
>> On 17.08.2011 23:34, Jane--Galt wrote:
>> 
>>  --- Original Message ---
>> 
>>> Philip Chee   wrote :
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 00:46:51 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote:
>>>>> How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging 
with
>>>>> the mouse? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to
>>>>> the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for
>>>>> viewing sites instead of bars.
>>>> 
>>>> The Home button has been draggable since SeaMonkey 2.0 and I've had it
>>>> in the navigation bar for ages.
>>>> 
>>>> I have no idea what the Tinyurl button is but if it is an extension 
you
>>>> should complain to the author and ask him to make his button movable.
>>>> 
>>>> Phil
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Crap, I tried dragging that one and it disappeared now!
>>> 
>>> Will reinstall...
>>> 
>>> Tinyurl is JUST one of the handiest things there is!
>>> http://tinyurl.com/
>>> 
>> 
>> FYI, re-installing only affects the program files, your profile remains
>> along with all it's data and settings, etc.
>> 
> 
> Well I lost the button and am unable to get it back again now.
> 
>:(

I was just trying various things and clicked on Restore Default Set and my 
Tinyurl button came back!  JOY!!


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Re: SUGGESTION

2011-08-17 Thread Jane--Galt
sean nathan bean   wrote :

> Jane--Galt sent me the following::
>> How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with
>> the mouse?
>>
>> For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to
>> the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for
>> viewing sites instead of bars.
>>
> 
> right click anywhere on the tool bar... select customize... drag away...
> this has been available for quite some time...
> 
> sean
> 
> 

Ahh, thanks!

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Re: SUGGESTION

2011-08-17 Thread Jane--Galt
Philip Chee   wrote :

> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 00:46:51 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote:
>> How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with
>> the mouse? 
>> 
>> For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to
>> the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for
>> viewing sites instead of bars.
> 
> The Home button has been draggable since SeaMonkey 2.0 and I've had it
> in the navigation bar for ages.
> 
> I have no idea what the Tinyurl button is but if it is an extension you
> should complain to the author and ask him to make his button movable.
> 
> Phil
> 

Cant drag it up to the bar with the Back, Forward and Reload buttons.

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SUGGESTION

2011-08-16 Thread Jane--Galt
How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with the 
mouse? 

For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to the top 
bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for viewing sites 
instead of bars.

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Bookmarks manager in 2.1

2011-06-18 Thread Jane-Galt
I keep getting messages that Bookmarks Manager is preventing Win 7 from 
shutting down. Is that a bug that needs fixing?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-11 Thread Jane-Galt
MCBastos   wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 11/06/2011 15:54, Jane-Galt told the world:
>> One question: With 2.1, I keep SM as a task bar icon at the bottom of
>> my Win 7 screen. But since going to the full new release of 2.1 it's
>> been opening new task bar icons for everything, all the way on the
>> other side of the task bar, instead of keeping everything within that
>> same icon. What setting do I need to change to keep all new tabs
>> opened, within the same task bar icon? 
>>
> 
> Right-click on the OLD taskbar icon, select "unpin."
> Right-click on the NEW taskbar icon, select "pin."
> 
> 

Simple as that, huh? 

LOL! 

Thanks!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-11 Thread Jane-Galt
One question: With 2.1, I keep SM as a task bar icon at the bottom of my Win 
7 screen. But since going to the full new release of 2.1 it's been opening 
new task bar icons for everything, all the way on the other side of the task 
bar, instead of keeping everything within that same icon. What setting do I 
need to change to keep all new tabs opened, within the same task bar icon?

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Re: 2.1Pre

2011-06-10 Thread Jane-Galt
"Jane-Galt"   wrote :

> "David E. Ross"   wrote :
> 
>> On 6/9/11 8:41 PM, Jane-Galt wrote:
>>> What happened to being able to right click on the space to the right
>>> of the tabs and get a new tab? 
>>> 
>>> Seems like I can only get a new tab by right clicking a tab itself.
>>> 
>>> Or did I miss a setting?
>>> 
>> 
>> When you have a tab bar, there is an icon at the far LEFT.  You
>> left-click on it to open a new tab.
>> 
>> I have my preferences set to hide the tab bar if only one tab is open.
>> But I have a button on my PrefBar tool bar to open a new tab.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Used to be that you could right click anywhere on the white bar area and
> open a new one.
> 
> Oh well, minor.
> 
> I really like this browser though!
> 
> 
> 

And I just noticed 2.1 is out and downloaded it. Nice!

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Re: 2.1Pre

2011-06-10 Thread Jane-Galt
"David E. Ross"   wrote :

> On 6/9/11 8:41 PM, Jane-Galt wrote:
>> What happened to being able to right click on the space to the right of
>> the tabs and get a new tab? 
>> 
>> Seems like I can only get a new tab by right clicking a tab itself.
>> 
>> Or did I miss a setting?
>> 
> 
> When you have a tab bar, there is an icon at the far LEFT.  You
> left-click on it to open a new tab.
> 
> I have my preferences set to hide the tab bar if only one tab is open.
> But I have a button on my PrefBar tool bar to open a new tab.
> 



Used to be that you could right click anywhere on the white bar area and open 
a new one.

Oh well, minor.

I really like this browser though!


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2.1Pre

2011-06-09 Thread Jane-Galt
What happened to being able to right click on the space to the right of the 
tabs and get a new tab? 

Seems like I can only get a new tab by right clicking a tab itself.

Or did I miss a setting?

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Re: Not supported

2011-06-09 Thread Jane-Galt
"David E. Ross"   wrote :


> 
> You can add comments to bookmarks now.
> 
> 1.  On the menu bar, select [Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks].
> 
> 2.  On the left pane of the Bookmarks Manager window, navigate to the
> folder containing the bookmark on which you want to add a comment.
> Select that folder.
> 
> 3.  All the bookmarks in that folder will appear in the right pane.
> Select the specific bookmark.
> 
> 4.  Below the pane listing individual bookmarks will be three input
> areas: Name, Location, Tags.  At the bottom, there will also be a button
> with "More" to its right.  Select that button.

OHHH, ok. I had that minimized so I could see all the bookmarks full screen. 
Thanks!

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Re: Not supported

2011-06-09 Thread Jane-Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane-Galt wrote:
>> David Wilkinson   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane-Galt wrote:
>>>> Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how
>>>> different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now?
>>>
>>> Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that
>>> you might indeed go with latest FireFox.
>>>
>>
>> I'm ok. I've used Pegasus Mail since around 1994 when I first got on
>> the net. 
>>
> 
> Why not staying with Pegasus Mail ?
> 

?

I AM staying with Pegasus.


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Re: Not supported

2011-06-09 Thread Jane-Galt
David Wilkinson   wrote :

> Jane-Galt wrote:
>> Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how
>> different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now?
> 
> Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that you
> might indeed go with latest FireFox.
> 

I'm ok. I've used Pegasus Mail since around 1994 when I first got on the net.

One little problem with the bookmarks though. I can no longer edit the 
Properties and add my own notes. For example if I want to buy something, I 
usually edit Properties and say at the beginning: BUY THIS.

Or if I bought something: BOUGHT THIS ONE

Maybe they can fix that before the full release?

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Re: Not supported

2011-06-08 Thread Jane-Galt
"Jane-Galt"   wrote :

> Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how
> different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now?
> 
> ( haven't used FF much yet )
> 
> 

Been using this since earlier today and I'm really getting to like it! 
Very nice!

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Re: Not supported

2011-06-08 Thread Jane-Galt
Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different 
is it from just hopping over to Firefox now?

( haven't used FF much yet )

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Not supported

2011-06-06 Thread Jane-Galt
Hmm...your browser is not officially supported.
The all-new Yahoo! Mail hasn't been tested on your browser. You can choose to 
continue, or simply go to Yahoo! Mail Classic.
 
To continue to the all-new Yahoo! Mail anyway...

Go to Yahoo! Mail
To proceed to Yahoo! Mail Classic...

Go to Yahoo! Mail Classic just this one time

Switch back to Yahoo! Mail Classic indefinitely -- or at least until your 
system is ready.

 
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Re: One other thing

2010-04-27 Thread Jane Galt
Clifton Ray Hodges   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Clifton Ray Hodges   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> Danielwrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>> I was talking to someone recently and mentioned using Pegasus Mail,
>>>>>> which I've used since 1994, and the only thing it wont do, that I
>> want,
>>>>>> is this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, 
I
>>>>>> want to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from
>> THAT
>>>>>> email, j...@domain1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply 
from
>>>>>> that address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ( one is home and one is my home business actually )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that 
way,
>>>>>> but it wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused 
if
>>>>>> it doesnt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying 
that
>>>>>> Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it
>>>>>> too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a feature that would be, it would draw me from Pegasus!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ( I know, after all this...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Give it a go Jane!! Set yourself up with two e-mail profiles (Edit->
>> Mail
>>>>> &   Newsgroup Account Settings->Add Account)
>>>>
>>>> Not in SM, right? No "Add account" there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's mine ;-)
>>>
>>> At the bottom left there is the following buttons:
>>> Add Account
>>> Set As Default
>>> Remove Account
>>> Help
>>
>> Wonder if that got taken out in mine, with the about:config edit we did.
>> Not showing anywhere.
>>
>>
> 
> Well I haven't run a Windows OS platform for a long time now, but 
> if I remember correctly, the "...Account Settings" is on a 
> different Menu than for Linux OS Platforms;
> 
> Either way, the account settings are available two other ways:
> Mouse Right Click on Local Folders, or click on the Account (e.g. 
> n...@yourdomain), if it is seperate, which is just above "inbox", 
> and under the "Accounts" Heading in the pane on the right, and 
> select:
> "View Settings for this account"
> and it will bring up the Account Settings Windows;
> 
> At least that was the way it worked in Thunderbird, which pretty 
> much functions in the same manner as Seamonkey.
> 
> Are you saying that you ARE getting the "Account Settings" 
> window, but the buttons "Add Account", "Set As Default", "Remove 
> Account", and "Help" are not showing up on the bottom left of the 
> "Account Settings" window ?

I found it. You have to open the email client to get it, as the OP pointed 
out.

After 16 years with Pegasus though, it's too alien for me to deal with. :) 


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Re: One other thing

2010-04-21 Thread Jane Galt
Clifton Ray Hodges   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Daniel   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> I was talking to someone recently and mentioned using Pegasus Mail,
>>>> which I've used since 1994, and the only thing it wont do, that I 
want,
>>>> is this:
>>>>
>>>> I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I
>>>> want to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from 
THAT
>>>> email, j...@domain1
>>>>
>>>> If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from
>>>> that address.
>>>>
>>>> ( one is home and one is my home business actually )
>>>>
>>>> Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way,
>>>> but it wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if
>>>> it doesnt.
>>>>
>>>> The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
>>>> Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it
>>>> too?
>>>>
>>>> What a feature that would be, it would draw me from Pegasus!
>>>>
>>>> ( I know, after all this...   )
>>>>
>>>
>>> Give it a go Jane!! Set yourself up with two e-mail profiles (Edit->
Mail
>>> &  Newsgroup Account Settings->Add Account)
>>
>> Not in SM, right? No "Add account" there.
>>
> 
> It's mine ;-)
> 
> At the bottom left there is the following buttons:
> Add Account
> Set As Default
> Remove Account
> Help

Wonder if that got taken out in mine, with the about:config edit we did. 
Not showing anywhere.


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Re: One other thing

2010-04-21 Thread Jane Galt
Daniel   wrote :

> 
> Jane, did you go to
> 
> Edit->Mail &  Newsgroup Account Settings->Add Account
> 
> as I suggested or did you go to
> 
> Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroup???
> 
> Daniel

All there is here, is Edit - Preferences


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Re: One other thing

2010-04-20 Thread Jane Galt
Daniel   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I was talking to someone recently and mentioned using Pegasus Mail,
>> which I've used since 1994, and the only thing it wont do, that I want,
>> is this: 
>>
>> I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I
>> want to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT
>> email, j...@domain1
>>
>> If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from
>> that address.
>>
>> ( one is home and one is my home business actually )
>>
>> Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way,
>> but it wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if
>> it doesnt. 
>>
>> The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
>> Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it
>> too? 
>>
>> What a feature that would be, it would draw me from Pegasus!
>>
>> ( I know, after all this...  )
>>
> 
> Give it a go Jane!! Set yourself up with two e-mail profiles (Edit->Mail
> & Newsgroup Account Settings->Add Account)

Not in SM, right? No "Add account" there.


> 
> Then you can set each account to have its own "From:" address.
> 
> (If I were you, I'd set SeaMonkey to download copies (i.e. leave the 
> originals on your web mail site) at least until you are sure SM will do 
> what you want!!)
> 
> HTH
> 
> Daniel
> 



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Re: One other thing

2010-04-20 Thread Jane Galt
Lucas Levrel   wrote :

> Le 20 avril 2010, Jane Galt a écrit :
> 
>> I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I
>> want to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT
>> email, j...@domain1
>>
>> If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from
>> that address.
> 
> Do you receive both into a single inbox?

Yes. My ISP routes them all to my primary email.

> 
>> Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way,
>> but it wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if
>> it doesnt. 
>>
>> The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that
>> Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it
>> too? 
> 
> pine/alpine/realpine does it whatever the answer of the above question, 
> but that's not the subject...
> 
> In SM:
> - if the answer to the above question is yes, then it's definitely 
> possible!
> - if it's no, then I can't tell if it can be done automatically (I don't
> use SM mail very often), but at least it can be done in one click 
> (drop-down list of your From: addresses)
> 



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One other thing

2010-04-19 Thread Jane Galt
I was talking to someone recently and mentioned using Pegasus Mail, which 
I've used since 1994, and the only thing it wont do, that I want, is this:

I have a couple of my own domains. When someone emails j...@domain1, I want 
to be able to automatically reply using spoofed settings from THAT email, 
j...@domain1

If someone emails me at j...@domain2, same thing, I need to reply from that 
address. 

( one is home and one is my home business actually )

Pegasus allows what they call Identities, that can be set up that way, but it 
wont do the replies automatically and they can get confused if it doesnt.

The reason I'm mentioning it here, is that this person was saying that 
Thunderbird does that. Is it true, and would Seamonkey emailer do it too?

What a feature that would be, it would draw me from Pegasus!

( I know, after all this...  )

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-19 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 04/18/2010 08:32 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp   wrote :
>> 
>>> On 04/18/2010 06:23 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> NoOp ... (modify your email client so that it doesn't show email
>>>> addresses when responding!) 
>>>>> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
>>>>> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false &
>>>>> set SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a
>>>>> great weekend :-)
>>>> 
>>>> This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.
>>>> 
>>>> Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?
>>>> 
>>>> This is Home Premium by the way.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Home Premium
>>> 
>>> As I said; you can contact me directly (tomorrow now as I'm finished
>>> w/SeaMonkey today) and I'll be happy to talk you through it + provide
>>> screenshots of both Pegasus and Win7.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I would, and thanks for the offer, but I KNOW it's done right, it just
>> isnt working here.
>> 
> 
> Maybe it's BECAUSE you are overusing caps? :-)
> (yeah, I saw the other post).

Just one teensy cap, at the beginning of a sentence. LOL 



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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-19 Thread Jane Galt
Daniel   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Daniel   wrote :
>>
>>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"  wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to
>>>>>>> use a
>>>>>>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get 
the
>>>>>> standalone anymore?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you
>>>>> ...g
>>>> This is not the fault of the SM developers, but the fault of the
>>>> developpers of the "newer Mozilla base" 
>>>
>>> No, or at least as I understand it!!
>>>
>>> Mozilla developers are developing Firefox and Thunderbird as two 
totally
>>> separate programs.
>>>
>>> The SeaMonkey Programmers/Council/Whatever then combine, FF (Seamonkey
>>> Suite Browser) and TB (SeaMonkey Suite Mail and News Group function) 
and
>>> Composer and Chatzilla into the one suite. Previously you were able to
>>> just install the SeaMonkey Suite Browser, but, since the advent of
>>> SeaMonkey Suite Ver 2.0, the minimum installation has become SeaMonkey
>>> Suite Browser AND Mail and News Group function.
>>
>> I suppose I'm lucky that it's allowing me to use Xnews for my usenet. :)
>>
>>> A tweek of the SeaMonkey 2.0 User Prefs has previously allowed for the
>>> use of other mail programs, but, it would seem, SM 2.0 on Windows 7
>>> doesn't allow this modification.
>>>
>>> At least that's as I understand it!
>>>
>>> Must download TB for Windows, install it on my Win7, stick the tweek in
>>> my SM for Win7 prefs and see what happens.
>>>
>>> Will report back!!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> 
> And I see, elsewhere in this thread, that you have solved your problem. 
> Good to hear.
> 
> When is a N not an n, ah!!

LOL.  Use the LOWER CASE luke...


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-19 Thread Jane Galt
Manuel Reimer   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>> I just got it!
> 
> Thanks for telling us how you solved the problem.
> 
> This setting should definetly get a checkbox in the settings window, to 
> be easily available to anyone, who needs this setting.

What blew my mind was that if you just add one upper case letter, it botches 
the whole string. Wow.


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-19 Thread Jane Galt
Jane Galt   wrote :

> Manuel Reimer   wrote :
> 
>> MCBastos wrote:
>>> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
>>> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
>>> "mailto:"; link.
>> 
>> And it does what it should. Works well for me.
>> 
>>> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
>>> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
>>> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
>>> for you.
>> 
>> Another idea would be to have a look at the helper applications pane in 
>> the settings window. After setting the boolean pref to true, I have a 
>> "mailto" entry, there, which allowes to set a mail client.
>> 
>> CU
>> 
>> Manuel
>> 
>> 
> 
> Ahah. I dont. What's up with this?...
> 

I just got it!

I went back to about:config and looked again there. My string 
network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
was at the very top of the list, which was odd. I looked down the pages and 
found other values starting with the: network.protocol-handler.external...

So why was network.protocol-handler.external.mailto at the very top?
Ahah! I had capitalized the first letter, like this!
Network.protocol-handler.external.mailto

THAT was keeping it from working?!?!?!

I deleted the value, it removed it, then I added 
network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
and it appeared instead, down the list with the others!

THEN the next time I clicked on the mailto link on a web page, it opened 
that box and ASKED me what I wanted to use!

At first I clicked on winpm-32.exe but that only took me into Pegasus when 
it was used, and didn't open a new email. So I had to go into Preferences - 
Helper Applications and change it to use wsendto.exe, and THAT did it!

NOW we know and hopefully this post will stay archived so others can see it 
in the future! 

Thanks guys, for all your patient help with this!

Whew!


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-19 Thread Jane Galt
Manuel Reimer   wrote :

> MCBastos wrote:
>> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
>> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
>> "mailto:"; link.
> 
> And it does what it should. Works well for me.
> 
>> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
>> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
>> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
>> for you.
> 
> Another idea would be to have a look at the helper applications pane in 
> the settings window. After setting the boolean pref to true, I have a 
> "mailto" entry, there, which allowes to set a mail client.
> 
> CU
> 
> Manuel
> 
> 

Ahah. I dont. What's up with this?...

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 04/18/2010 06:23 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp ... (modify your email client so that it doesn't show email
>> addresses when responding!) 
>>> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
>>> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
>>> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
>>> weekend :-)
>> 
>> This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.
>> 
>> Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?
>> 
>> This is Home Premium by the way.
>> 
> 
> Home Premium
> 
> As I said; you can contact me directly (tomorrow now as I'm finished
> w/SeaMonkey today) and I'll be happy to talk you through it + provide
> screenshots of both Pegasus and Win7.
> 
> 
> 

I would, and thanks for the offer, but I KNOW it's done right, it just isnt 
working here.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :
 
> 
> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
> 
> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save
> 
> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
> about:config
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>
> Enter about:config in the location bar.
> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
> Set the value to true.
>
> 
> o Tested by going to:
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about#contact
> and clicking on the mailto in "please mail the SeaMonkey Council at
> seamonkey-coun...@mozilla.org.". SeaMonkey immediately pops up and gives
> me the option:
>  Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility
> and of course I could check the 'Rememeber my choice for mailto links'
> if I wish this as the default in the future... I don't as I only am
> testing. Choose "Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility" and click OK. Off I go to
> Pegasus & seamonkey-coun...@mozilla.org is already filled in for me in
> the 'To:' address line.
> 
> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
> weekend :-)

This is just tweaking the heck out of my curiousity now.

Which flavor of Windows 7 do you have?

This is Home Premium by the way.



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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 04/18/2010 12:11 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp   wrote :
> ...
>>> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
>>> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
>>> 
>>> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
>>> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
>>> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
>>> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and
>>> 'MAPI'|Save 
>>> 
>>> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
>>> about:config
>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>>>
>>> Enter about:config in the location bar.
>>> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
>> 
>> Wait. Is there supposed to be a period on the end of that, or were you
>> just punctuating for this post?
> 
> Puntuating. But it wasn't me, it was Chris' error on his site
> instructions. Leave the period off, just use
> 
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
> 
> Have you added this preference?

Yeah, I've said so over & over now. Doesnt work for me here.

 To do so, open about:config in the
> browser url address bar. Right click on a blank space in the pane.
> Select New|Boolean
> in the preference box enter: network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
> in the boolean box select: true
> You do not have to reboot or anything, the change will be instantaneous.
> If you are still having problems, send me an email directly (drop the
> .invalid in the email address) and I'll talk you through it with
> screenshots.

It's been in there for weeks.


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 04/16/2010 08:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp   wrote :
>> 
>>> On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0
&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def
>>>ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html
>>> 
>>> Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?
>> 
>> Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. 
The 
>> ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF.
>> 
> 
> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
> 
> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save
> 
> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
> about:config
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>
> Enter about:config in the location bar.
> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.

Wait. Is there supposed to be a period on the end of that, or were you just 
punctuating for this post?

> Set the value to true.
>
> 
> o Tested by going to:
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about#contact
> and clicking on the mailto in "please mail the SeaMonkey Council at
> seamonkey-coun...@mozilla.org.". SeaMonkey immediately pops up and gives
> me the option:
>  Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility
> and of course I could check the 'Rememeber my choice for mailto links'
> if I wish this as the default in the future...

I never got that.

> I don't as I only am
> testing. Choose "Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility" and click OK. Off I go to
> Pegasus & seamonkey-coun...@mozilla.org is already filled in for me in
> the 'To:' address line.
> 
> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
> weekend :-)
> 
> 



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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 04/16/2010 08:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> NoOp   wrote :
>> 
>>> On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0
&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def
>>>ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html
>>> 
>>> Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?
>> 
>> Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. 
The 
>> ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF.
>> 
> 
> OK. I just installed Pegasus Mail Version 4.52 on a Win7 system with
> SeaMonkey 2.0.4:
> 
> o Set the default options in Win7 Control Panel to set Pegasus as the
> default email program vs SeaMonkey:
> Control Panel|Default Programs|Set your default programs|Pegasus
> Mail|Choose defaults for this program|ticked the 'Mailto' and 'MAPI'|Save
> 
> o Opened SeaMonkey & added the previously suggested preference in
> about:config
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>
> Enter about:config in the location bar.
> Add the Boolean preference network.protocol-handler.external.mailto.
> Set the value to true.
>
> 
> o Tested by going to:
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about#contact
> and clicking on the mailto in "please mail the SeaMonkey Council at
> seamonkey-coun...@mozilla.org.". SeaMonkey immediately pops up and gives
> me the option:
>  Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility
> and of course I could check the 'Rememeber my choice for mailto links'
> if I wish this as the default in the future... I don't as I only am
> testing. Choose "Pegasus Mail WSENTO Utility" and click OK. Off I go to
> Pegasus & seamonkey-coun...@mozilla.org is already filled in for me in
> the 'To:' address line.
> 
> So, it appears that this *does* indeed work. I'll now change my
> network.protocol-handler.external.mailto preferences back false & set
> SeaMonkey as the default mailer & reboot back to linux. Have a great
> weekend :-)
> 
> 

It worked to set Pegasus as your default in SM??? Why wont it do it for 
me???

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
Daniel   wrote :

> Ray_Net wrote:
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> "S. Beaulieu" wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to
>>>>> use a
>>>>> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> S.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the
>>>> standalone anymore?
>>>>
>>> Because the SM developer known better than you what is good for you
>>> ...g
>> This is not the fault of the SM developers, but the fault of the
>> developpers of the "newer Mozilla base" 
> 
> No, or at least as I understand it!!
> 
> Mozilla developers are developing Firefox and Thunderbird as two totally 
> separate programs.
> 
> The SeaMonkey Programmers/Council/Whatever then combine, FF (Seamonkey 
> Suite Browser) and TB (SeaMonkey Suite Mail and News Group function) and 
> Composer and Chatzilla into the one suite. Previously you were able to 
> just install the SeaMonkey Suite Browser, but, since the advent of 
> SeaMonkey Suite Ver 2.0, the minimum installation has become SeaMonkey 
> Suite Browser AND Mail and News Group function.

I suppose I'm lucky that it's allowing me to use Xnews for my usenet. :) 

> A tweek of the SeaMonkey 2.0 User Prefs has previously allowed for the 
> use of other mail programs, but, it would seem, SM 2.0 on Windows 7 
> doesn't allow this modification.
> 
> At least that's as I understand it!
> 
> Must download TB for Windows, install it on my Win7, stick the tweek in 
> my SM for Win7 prefs and see what happens.
> 
> Will report back!!

Thanks.



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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
Daniel   wrote :

> Ray_Net wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Phillip Jones wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the 
same
>>>>>>>> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it,
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or
>>>>>>>> similar)
>>>>>>>> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access
>>>>>> it in
>>>>>> Firefox?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Phillip, What do you look for in "BookMarks"?? Might I suggest that 
you
>>>>> look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term "Address Book" 
is
>>>>> not to far off the mark.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have "Bookmarks" changed to "Address
>>>>> Book"?? To me, "bookmarks" are placed in things, they are not THE 
thing
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if
>>>> desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell
>>>> number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and
>>>> whether you trust them to send remote content.
>>>>
>>>> Bookmarks are to be thought of well bookmarks place to go, say in 
a
>>>> book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a
>>>> website.
>>>>
>>>> Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in
>>>> Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents 
(TOC)
>>>> the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a
>>>> Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this
>>>> illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go
>>>> to specific location.
>>>>
>>> Yes, Phillip, but my point is that places to go have addresses (your
>>> home address, your Banks address, etc.) so www.mybankingplace.com is an
>>> address on the internet/web/whatever, so if you have to save several 
web
>>> addresses in a "book" it makes sense to call it an "addressbook", and
>>> that addressbook would contain several bookmarks, i.e. the bookmark is
>>> the web address contained in the addressbook.
>>>
>>> This way makes sense to me!!
>>>
>> Your way of sense is different that the majority.
> 
> Ray, the majority of the world drives on the right hand side of the 
> road, here in Australia we drive on the left, so I know what it's like 
> to be part of the minority!!

How come you guys drive on the wrong side like that? ;-)




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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=   wrote :
>>
>>> In<news:xns9d5db42b8f235janeggulch...@216.196.97.169>,
>>> Jane Galt  wrote:
>>>
>>>> MCBastos   wrote :
>>>
>>>>> - Opened About:config,
>>>>> - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean
>>>>> setting,
>>>>> - set it to "true."
>>>>
>>>> Mine has been set for a few weeks now.
>>>
>>> Double-check that you created a boolean pref, not a string one.  If
>>> it's not that, I can't guess what the problem is either.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, boolean. I was an electronics R&D tech for 27 years and had a college
>> class in logic years ago. ( too many years ago :)
>>
>> AND/OR, NAND, NOR etc...
>>
>>
> So far, so good ... Are you sure that your prefered mail program is the 
> windows default one ?
> 

Yes, if I look in Default Programs, Seamonkey Mail has 0 of 3 defaults and 
Pegasus Mail is set to all the defaults that it can be. ( MailTo )

This thing is bypassing the system.


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-18 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Ray_Net   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> Ray_Netwrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"   wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me
>> use
>>>> my
>>>>>>> own emailer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their 
program,
>>>>>> which they think is the best!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>>>>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>>>>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>>>>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>>>>> their product.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some 
people
>>>> from using it, their choice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So, why did you complain ?
>>>
>>
>> I've been asking if there's a fix.
>>
> There will be no fix, because, it's not a bug - it's a decision of the 
> developers on the "Mozilla base" ...
> 

Ok, I understand that now, and it's my decision to hassle with it or use 
some other bowser.


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-17 Thread Jane Galt
=?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=   wrote :

> In <news:xns9d5db42b8f235janeggulch...@216.196.97.169>,
> Jane Galt  wrote:
> 
>> MCBastos   wrote :
> 
>> > - Opened About:config,
>> > - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean
>> > setting,
>> > - set it to "true."
>> 
>> Mine has been set for a few weeks now.
> 
> Double-check that you created a boolean pref, not a string one.  If
> it's not that, I can't guess what the problem is either.
> 

Yes, boolean. I was an electronics R&D tech for 27 years and had a college 
class in logic years ago. ( too many years ago :)

AND/OR, NAND, NOR etc...


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their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-17 Thread Jane Galt
MCBastos   wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 17/4/2010 20:13, Jane Galt told the world:
>> MCBastos   wrote :
>> 
>>> Interviewed by CNN on 16/4/2010 22:09, Jane Galt told the world:
>>>> MCBastos   wrote :
>>>
>>>>> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
>>>>> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to 
change
>>>>> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find 
the
>>>>> instructions here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>>>>
>>>> Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
>>>>  
>>>
>>> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
>>> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
>>> "mailto:"; link.
>>>
>>> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
>>> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
>>> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
>>> for you.
>> 
>> Just tried...nope. 
> 
> Weird. I just tested it.
> 
> - Opened About:config,
> - created network.protocol-handler.external.mailto as a Boolean setting,
> - set it to "true."

Mine has been set for a few weeks now.

> - Then I set Outlook Express as default e-mail program (by using Windows
> "Set program access and defaults").

I dont allow OE on my computer.

> I didn't even have to close Seamonkey: I clicked on one "mailto" link in
> the heading of a news message, and it prompted me to confirm choice of
> OE (with an option to "remember setting).
> 
> Changed default e-mail program to Opera (these are the only two other
> mail-capable programs I have around), tried again, and it asked to
> confirm I wanted Opera. It worked again.

Lucky you. :)

> I tried with a webpage. Same result.
> 
> But I'm still using XP. Win7 is different in a lot of points, including
> in the way "default programs" are set. So maybe it needs some tweaks 
there.

O, still using XP. LOL

> Set values back, and it went back to normal.
> 
> So I have no idea why this doesn't work for you. It should.
 
Different OS, different email prog?




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their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-17 Thread Jane Galt
MCBastos   wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 16/4/2010 22:09, Jane Galt told the world:
>> MCBastos   wrote :
> 
>>> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
>>> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
>>> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
>>> instructions here:
>>>
>>> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto
>> 
>> Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
>>  
> 
> Hmmm, I'm puzzled. That option is supposed to do exactly what you want,
> that is, to call an external mail program whenever you click on a
> "mailto:"; link.
> 
> Besides setting network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true", I
> have also seen mentions of setting network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
> to the pathname of your mail program. Maybe that can solve the problem
> for you.

Just tried...nope. 


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their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-17 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Ray_Net   wrote :
>>
>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>> "S. Beaulieu"  wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>>>> something
>>>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me 
use
>> my
>>>>> own emailer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program,
>>>> which they think is the best!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I
>>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the
>>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using
>>> their product.
>>>
>>
>> Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some people
>> from using it, their choice.
>>
>>
> So, why did you complain ?
> 

I've been asking if there's a fix.

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The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-17 Thread Jane Galt
Stanimir Stamenkov   wrote :

> Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:40:46 +0200, /Ray_Net/:
> 
>> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
>> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I 
>> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the 
>> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using 
>> their product.
> 
> It is our product (to the people using it). 

NO. They put their time into developing it, it's their product.


> The SeaMonkey developers 
> devote it to us and they devote their time and will to make so, and we 
> (the users) get a free product at the end.  I hope you realize the 
> SeaMonkey developers are very few and their resources are pretty limited.
> 
> The exact case of not being able to not install the mail component in 
> the new SeaMonkey version is caused by changes to the installer not 
> introduced by the SeaMonkey developers but by the newer Mozilla base, as 
> far as I'm aware.  It has been explained number of times in this group - 
> you may search as I don't have references at hand.  The issue is known 
> and the SeaMonkey developers also want it corrected, but it is just not 
> that easy.  Statements like: "developers lives in their gold-tower ... 
> neglecting the people using their product" sound pretty ridiculous to me.
 

Agreed.


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The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-17 Thread Jane Galt
Ray_Net   wrote :

> Daniel wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> "S. Beaulieu" wrote :
>>>
>>>> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>
>> 
>>
>>> Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to
>>> something
>>> else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use 
my
>>> own emailer?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Because, Jane, the SeaMonkey developers want you to use their program,
>> which they think is the best!!
>>
> 
> This is exactly the same position of microsoft.
> If the previous version of SM permit to *not* us the SM-mail part - I 
> see no real reason tu cut away this possibility. Except that the 
> developers lives in their gold-tower ... neglecting the people using 
> their product.
> 

Ultimately it's their software, and if they want to alienate some people 
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Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness “Man’s Rights,” The Virtue of 
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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
NoOp   wrote :

> On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
> ...
> 
>> 
>> What?? I'm running Windows 7.
>> 
> 
><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0&q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def
>ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7&btnG=Search> 
> 
> http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html
> 
> Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help?

Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. The 
ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF.

> 
> Keep in mind that Win7 is a completely different beast than WinXP.

And what a fine beast it is too. :)

I resisted for a long time, based on the Vista dread ( never used Vista ) 
but then some of the nice folks in 24 hour help told me not to worry. I 
LOVE Win 7 now! Very nice.

> You might also try:
> http://www.pmail.com/support.htm
> as it seems that pmail & Vista[1]/Win7 have some issues overall.
> 
> [1] found this as well:
> http://community.pmail.com/forums/post/460.aspx

Thanks.


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possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
"S. Beaulieu"   wrote :

> Roger Fink a écrit :
>> It wasn't an problem in 1.x, and as I said the developers may choose to
>> address it or not. My opinion is that if they only want the program to 
be
>> used in a certain way, then they should really get coercive about it and
>> make mail implementation a precondition of getting the browser to 
launch.
>>
>>
> 
> Well, obviously, some people already see the current model as being 
> coercitive, so I don't think making things harder would make them any 
> better. People *can* use another mail application if they want to. There 
> just really is no point in using SM in that case, though.

Yes there IS, that's my point. I like the look & feel of the SM browser, 
not FF or Internet Explorer, but SM. 

Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to something 
else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use my 
own emailer?


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The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness “Man’s Rights,” The Virtue of 
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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
Frosted Flake   wrote :

> Roger Fink wrote:
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>>> email client!
>>>
>>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>>
>>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>>> allow it to be changed.
>>>
>>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>>> BULL!
>>
>> I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same
>> problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a
>> Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively
>> correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an
>> ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is
>> open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing.
>>
>>
> 
> Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since
> the initial few messages?
> 
> Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll?
> 

Kiss my ass. Unlike you, I'm not sitting full time in my mommy's basement 
in my underpants, typing flames, I work and dont always have time to jump 
in here, but WILL get back.


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The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee 
that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it 
if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of 
material values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness “Man’s Rights,” The Virtue of 
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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
"S. Beaulieu"   wrote :

> Roger Fink a écrit :
>>
>> Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic.
>>
>>
> 
> It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a 
> suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead.
> 
> S.
> 

Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the 
standalone anymore?

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Property Rights

The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is 
their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are 
possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who 
has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. 
The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.

Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the 
others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the 
consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that 
a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he 
earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material 
values.

- Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness “Man’s Rights,” The Virtue of 
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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
"Roger Fink"   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
>>
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>
>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>> allow it to be changed.
>>
>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>> BULL!
> 
> I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same
> problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a
> Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively
> correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an
> ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is
> open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing.
> 
> 
> 

Doesnt work with Pegasus Mail. I have Pegasus set to be my system defaul 
emailer, even went as suggested, and did about:config and made the changes 
there, and SM STILL wont let it be used for mailto links.

I just downloaded and tried it in FF and it DOES go to Pegasus for mailto 
links, so YES this is a SM only problem and seems unfixable unless the 
developers get it fixed.


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
Everybody's in this thinking rut when it comes to which browser to use. If 
you dont want email, you gotta use FF. 

Well I'm 60 years old and have liked netscape's browser look and feel since I 
first got on the net and started using Navigator in 1994. I've TRIED to stick 
with that, and always HATED Internet Explorer.

So here we are and I prefer the browser look and feel of SM now, NOT FF. So 
why cant we get SM to give up its hassles with email mailto links?

It's not hard, come on guys.



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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
Jane Galt   wrote :

> MCBastos   wrote :
> 
> 
>> Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of
>> copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the
>> Firefox profile 
> 
> Ok, admittedly I'm totally new to FF. I just copied the bookmarks file
> over, but dont even see a menu to pull down my bookmarks in FF. 
> 
> 
> 

Never mind this,  I found out how to import them from a html file using the 
bookmarks import. FF will just take some getting used to.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
MCBastos   wrote :


> Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of
> copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the
> Firefox profile 

Ok, admittedly I'm totally new to FF. I just copied the bookmarks file over, 
but dont even see a menu to pull down my bookmarks in FF. 



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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty"   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
> 
>> User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100414-1, 04/14/2010), Outbound message
>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>> 
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
> 
> Perhaps your unnecessary scanning of Outbound (and likely Inbound)
> mail/news is causing your problem. Choice of email client may be tied up
> in the proxy settings of your a-v program. Leave Avast! running in
> real-time mode, but disable the Inbound/Outbound scanners.
> http://tekrider.net/general/misctips.php#avinout

I'm not even talking about that. I keep setting Pegasus Mail as my system 
email client, but SM wont go to it when I click email links on web pages, 
it will only open its own email client. How do I stop that and get it to 
recognize Pegasus as my only email client?

And I've already tried the about:config suggestion and it wont work.
 
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop. 
> 
> Begs the question:  why are you using the SeaMonkey suite if all you
> want is the browser?
>

I've always liked the Netscape Communicator browser style instead of 
Internet Explorer. 
 




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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
MCBastos   wrote :

> Interviewed by CNN on 14/4/2010 21:21, Jane Galt told the world:
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
>> 
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>> 
>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM,
>> it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow
>> it to be changed.
>> 
>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>> BULL! 
> 
> OK, I'll try to answer this in a civil manner...
> 
> First, yes, Seamonkey does assume that you are going to use its
> integrated e-mail client, instead of checking what is the "default
> e-mail client" in the Windows settings. Since the main point of using
> Seamonkey instead of Firefox is exactly the e-mail integration, this is
> not an unreasonable assumption.
> 
> However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to
> Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change
> the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the
> instructions here:
> 
> http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto

Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work.
 
> Now, I gather that you tried changing to Firefox and ran into problems,
> because Firefox couldn't detect your existing installation of Seamonkey.

Not to mention that all my bookmarks and passwords have been stored in SM.

In fact I just migrated to Win 7 from XP and finally got that mess all 
fixed.

Firefox is nice, and all that, but just another major hassle trying to get 
my profile, passwords etc. all moved, especially since it wont even 
recognize the SM install on this computer.

> Since you claim to be using SM 2.0.x, I think it's likely that the
> Firefox guys haven't updated yet their import tool to account for the
> changes in SM 2. There should be a bug open for it...
> 
> Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of
> copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the
> Firefox profile -- but things like passwords are more complicated.
> There's an extension that solves it. It's called Password Exporter. You
> can get the modified-for-Seamonkey version in Philip Chee's site:
> 
> http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#passwordexporter
> 
> I don't know if you need it to import the passwords back to Firefox, but
> if so, you can get the official Password Exporter for Firefox here:
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848

Thanks.


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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
BeeNeR   wrote :

> On or about 4/14/2010 11:52 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
>> BeeNeR   wrote :
>> 
>>> On or about 4/14/2010 8:21 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
>>>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>>>> email client!
>>>>
>>>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>>>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>>>>
>>>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in
>>>> SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont
>>>> allow it to be changed.
>>>>
>>>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>>>> BULL! 
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>>
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Why does SM have to prevent any other email program from working with
>> email links?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Try going to START / SETTINGS / CONTROL PANEL / INTERNET PROPERTIES /
> PROGRAMS and in that screen change the E-Mail setting from SeaMonkey to
> XNews (at least if you're running Windows)
> 

What?? I'm running Windows 7.

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-16 Thread Jane Galt
Daniel   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Jane Galt   wrote :
>>
>>> BeeNeR   wrote :
>>
>>>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>>>>
>>
>> I run into the same mess all over again.
>>
>> I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it
>> doesnt show up, says:
>>
>> If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not
>> installed 
>>
>>
>> News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks
>> etc in it.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same 
> format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just 
> open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) 
> and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book.
> 
> Might help!!
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 

Address  book? 

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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-14 Thread Jane Galt
Jane Galt   wrote :

> BeeNeR   wrote :

>> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
>> 
>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
>> 

I run into the same mess all over again.

I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it doesnt 
show up, says:

If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not installed


News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks etc in 
it.



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Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!

2010-04-14 Thread Jane Galt
BeeNeR   wrote :

> On or about 4/14/2010 8:21 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt:
>> I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its
>> email client!
>> 
>> I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client
>> since 1994 and wont stop.
>> 
>> Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM,
>> it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow
>> it to be changed.
>> 
>> I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is
>> BULL! 
>> 
> 
> If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox:
> 
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html
> 
> 

Why does SM have to prevent any other email program from working with email 
links?


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