Re: Sites you may not be able to access

[Rinaldi]

On 1/11/21 4:51 PM, Somebody or Other wrote:

Rinaldi wrote:
We have never before had a president who incited a riot against our 
capitol and then congratulated and thanked the perpetrators. So when 
the media platforms ban that criminal, seditious behavior, it's 
because it's criminal and seditious, not because a Republican is 
doing it.


I have heard this allegation several times yet I cannot find a link or 
transcript.  Would you be so kind?


The tweets in question have been taken down. But a quick perusal of the 
news media should give you plenty of information, including direct 
quotes and clips of his speech just before the riot.


We're already way off topic for this NG, so I'll have nothing more to 
say about it. I expect most of the thread will be taken down soon by the 
moderators.


Thought so.

Rinaldi
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Re: Sites you may not be able to access

[Rinaldi]

On 1/11/21 2:34 PM, Somebody or Other wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:


Samuel S wrote:

Yet, as many Americans use "Freedom of Speech" is incorrect, as the 
First and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution is referencing 
that Our Government shall not restrict and has no application to 
private entities, as much as many would prefer to apply it to.


The social media companies are not Government, but they are Government 
protected.  Therefore they are only semi-private.  They have entered 
the realm of public utility.  And that invokes the realm of 
discrimination.


So either make them as [liable] as everyone else, or make them not 
discriminate.


There is also the area of monopoly and antitrust, but I have varied 
opinions regarding those.


We have never before had a president who incited a riot against our 
capitol and then congratulated and thanked the perpetrators. So when the 
media platforms ban that criminal, seditious behavior, it's because it's 
criminal and seditious, not because a Republican is doing it.


I have heard this allegation several times yet I cannot find a link or 
transcript.  Would you be so kind?


Rinaldi
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Re: Video doesn't play

[Rinaldi]

Ed Mullen decreed, Read These Runes!:
> <http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-08-31/what-amazon-s-prime-air-means-for-fedex-and-ups>
> 
> 
> This video doesn't play in SeaMonkey but does in every other browser I
> tried.  Ideas?

Worked here.  Slow to load but played flawlessly.

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Re: Never noticed I could change my "From:" in SeaMonkey's Composer!

[Rinaldi to the Antfarm.]

Can Change My From: Part! decreed, Read These Runes!:
> Hello.
> 
> I just discovered that I could edit my "From:" form in SeaMonkey's
> Compose(r) as shown in this post. Am I the only one/1 who never noticed
> this since I have been using Mozilla and Netscape suites for a couple
> decades or so?
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

Hi Phil.  I never messed with it much but the only time it seems to
matter is when using the outgoing SMTP.

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Re: seamonkey obsolete?

[Rinaldi]

Richard Owlett decreed, Read These Runes!:
> Kevin L. Hill wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> Bill DeCoster wrote:
 I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because
 of issues with it.
 What's the point if nothing works?
>>>
>>> ??
>>> Mine works perfectly.
>>> I never have a problem with it.
>>> SM 2.26.1
>>
>> I encountered a site today that may serve as one 'real world' example.
>> Mega.co.nz offers end-to-end encryption for data, claiming that all
>> encryption/decryption is done on the local computer, not by their
>> servers, and that they do not possess the keys needed to decrypt the
>> data.
>>
>> On Seamonkey:  Mega.co.nz gives me the following error:
>>
>> "Sorry, we were unable to initialize the browser's local storage, either
>> you're using an outdated browser or it's something from our side.
>>
>> If you think it's our fault, please report the issue back to us.
>>
>> Reason: localStorage is null
>> Browser: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64; rv:36.0) gecko/20100101
>> firefox/36.0 seamonkey/2.33.1"
>>
>> More info on "local storage in the browser" is here:
>>
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2625216/web-browsers/html5-in-the-browser--local-data-storage.html
>>
>>
>>
>> The page loads perfectly in Firefox:  38.0.5
>>
>> Kevin Hill
>> Long Beach, CA
>>
> 
> https://validator.w3.org/ reports 6 errors ;/
> 
> 'nuff said?
> 
But it loads perfectly here:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/2015061208
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38a1-rjm

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Re: No one has addressed my question

[Rinaldi]

Veleka Gray decreed, Read These Runes!:
> So how do I stop getting messages from others?

Explain please.

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Re: Some attached jpg not shown at the end of the mail

[Rinaldi]

»Q« decreed, Read These Runes!:
> In ,
> Ray_Net  wrote:
> 
>> > an example to m.t.multimedia by attaching an .eml file to a post.  
> 
>> I don't know how to do that
> 
>> For those who would experiment -  the mail zipped (4.7 Mbytes) from:
>> C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default\Mail\Local
>>  
>> Folders\ with the name:
>> RANDOEVASION-TEST
>> is here: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/RANDOEVASION-TEST.zip
> 
> Whoa!  Giving us the whole mailbox is very generous, but what we need
> is just the single problematic mail.  
> 
> Maybe you can do it from the list view, or maybe you have to first
> double-click to open the message in its own window, but there's got to
> be a save option somewhere.  You're looking for something like
> 
> File » Save as eml
> 
> Sorry, I can't give a clearer recipe -- I don't know the SM GUI at all.
> 
> Zipping it and putting it on the web is much better than my suggestion
> about m.t.mm.

Download and unzip the file to /var/spool/mail on your *nix box then
subscribe to the resulting RANDOEVASION-TEST folder.  (Assuming your
mail client works this way, or use T-Bird or SM)

Looks fine here, BTW.

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Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...

[Rinaldi]

sean decreed, Read These Runes!:
> sean wrote on 04/25/2015 08:44 PM:
>> Rinaldi wrote on 04/21/2015 08:01 PM:
>>> sean decreed, Read These Runes!:
>>> ***
>>>> fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day
>>>
>>> But that doesn't mean they are working as designed.  Most of my sound
>>> problems come from *flash* not properly releasing the device when
>>> finished.
>>>
>>> ps auxw | grep flash
>>>
>>> next time your sound device isn't responding properly, then kill -9 the
>>> PID of the flash process.
>>>
>>> Here it's usually Seamonkey or Chrome that hung up.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>
>> not working as designed indeed... although this week has been a good
>> week for sound issues... here's my output:
>>
>> spence@hpG6 ~ $ ps auxw | grep flash
>> spence2778  0.0  0.0  17000  2084 pts/0S+   20:40   0:00 grep
>> --colour=auto flash
>>
>>
>> sean
>>
>>
> 
> today however, i'm listening to music and a video in Seamonkey, when i
> also need to pause and listen to a video in Chromium that doesn't work

I'm not sure that is even possible.

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Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...

[Rinaldi]

»Q« decreed, Read These Runes!:
> Rinaldi suggested ps because the OP does have Flash installed, and
> because a running Flash process might be causing the trouble.  ps would
> let him find the process ID (PID) so he could kill it.

I missed the change in posters ,  daniel v. sean.

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Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...

[Rinaldi]

Daniel decreed, Read These Runes!:
> On 22/04/15 13:01, Rinaldi wrote:
>> sean decreed, Read These Runes!:
>> ***
>>> fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day
>>
>> But that doesn't mean they are working as designed.  Most of my sound
>> problems come from *flash* not properly releasing the device when
>> finished.
>>
>> ps auxw | grep flash
>>
>> next time your sound device isn't responding properly, then kill -9 the
>> PID of the flash process.
>>
>> Here it's usually Seamonkey or Chrome that hung up.
>>
>> HTH
>>
> Hey, Rinaldi, if I
> 
> [daniel@localhost ~]$ ps auxw | grep flash
> 
> I get
> 
> daniel   11700  0.0  0.0  12160   668 pts/2D+   19:31   0:00 grep
> --color flash [daniel@localhost ~]$

That appears to be the PID of the grep process.

> (Note: the flash following color is in a pretty pink colour!)
> 
> I didn't think I had Flash installed! But just checked SM Add-ons
> Manager an it's showing I have "YouTube Flash Video Player 36.0
> installed!! Is this working in place of normal Flash??

I'm confused.  You say earlier that you have flash and pepperflash
installed.

> Should my sound be working, or not??

According to the output of the grep command there is nothing using flash
in any capacity so I'd say it is something other than an addon if your
sound was not working when you made the post.

To see what is using your sound system you might try:

sudo fuser -v/dev/snd/*

This should provide (depending on your system's file structure)
something like:

$ sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*
 USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0:  rinaldi1468 F kded4   rinaldi1656 F
kmix
/dev/snd/controlC1:  rinaldi1468 F kded4   rinaldi1656 F
kmix
/dev/snd/seq:root   1208 F timidity

Here that is normal output showing no problems.  See what yours looks like.

Sound problems can be fun to solve.  Especially when it is sometimes
working and sometimes not.  That it works sometimes leads me to believe
 is is just a hung process.  The problem is finding which one.

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Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...

[Rinaldi]

sean decreed, Read These Runes!:
***
> fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day

But that doesn't mean they are working as designed.  Most of my sound
problems come from *flash* not properly releasing the device when finished.

ps auxw | grep flash

next time your sound device isn't responding properly, then kill -9 the
PID of the flash process.

Here it's usually Seamonkey or Chrome that hung up.

HTH
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Re: [SPAM] Re: The super

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

NoOp wrote:

> And you didn't in this case. However sometimes the excellent SeaMonkey
> filters do... bye now & into my filters you go.

Shucky darns...  How will I survive.

Self righteous butt hole.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: The super

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

NoOp wrote:
> On 07/17/2012 01:23 PM, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> Sara jay lvoer wrote:
> ...
>> A little heftier than I like, but to each his own.  Probably an R not X.
>> 
> 
> Rinaldi, my filters work & I never saw the original. However, you then
> comment and keep the spammer's url in to boot. Please don't do this. Thanks.

Sorry but I'm not the group sensor.  What I was interested in was
finding if the link was to some form of malware.

The 'net is anarchy.  Sometimes the anarchists win.

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Re: The super HOT MILF SARa Jay New Pictures EXCLUSIVE

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Sara jay lvoer wrote:
> 
> New pictures Sex Milf Sara Jay 2012 Exclusive 
> 
> 
> Download / telecharger : http://ge.tt/api/1/files/8GM0lcK/0/blob?download

A little heftier than I like, but to each his own.  Probably an R not X.

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Font rendering text or html utf-8 charset

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Reading mail/news messages in plain text or html received in utf-8
charset, the minimum font size is ignored.  Fixed using Ctrl +(+), but
annoying.  Anyone else seeing this in recent builds/nightlies?

Linux

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Re: Frames

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> 
> 
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
> 
>> Used to be both "View" and "Print".  Don't see them
> 
> Site : http://www.becanada.com/cl/cashscripts-frames.html?sa...@becanada.com
> 
> Right-click, "This frame", choose from nine options in four categories.
> "Print" is not one of them, but is indirectly accessible via (e.g.,)
> "Show only this frame" and "Print", and also via various other routes.
> 
> Philip Taylor

Thanks.  I guess it helps to be working with a page that has frames ;-)

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Re: Frames

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Rick Merrill wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, both require the user to login to an account.
>>
>> Well, if you can find one that does not, please post back.
>>
>> In the meantime, for your enjoyment:
>> <http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil>
>>
>> Frames were a short-lived fad about 13-14 years ago.
>>
> 
> "Fad" - yes; "short-lived" - they are still popular.
> 
> Now, wasn't there or is there still a feature that permitted one to "print 
> frame"?

Used to be both "View" and "Print".  Don't see them.

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Re: Can Google-Analytics be bypassed?

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 25.08.2011 21:03, sean nathan bean wrote:
> 
>  --- Original Message ---
> 
>> d...@kd4e.com sent me the following::
>>> Just getting back to this ...
>>>
>>> Is the file to which this is added /etc/hosts ?
>>>
>>> Is everything in there blocked?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>  > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> # block google ads. add additional servers as found.
>>>> 127.0.0.1 adwords.google.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 pagead.googlesyndication.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 googleadservices.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1www.googleadservices.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 apps5.oingo.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 gcc-08.googleadservices.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1www.google-analytics.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
>>>> # google urchintracker
>>>> 127.0.0.1 urchin.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1www.urchin.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 domains.googlesyndication.com #[Parking Service]
>>>> 127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 video-stats.video.google.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 4.afs.googleadservices.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 feedads.googleadservices.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 imageads.googleadservices.com #[Tracking.Cookie]
>>>> 127.0.0.1 pagead2.googleadservices.com
>>>> 127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> so what's the point of hosts.deny ? or do we need both?
> 
> hosts - Windows
> hosts.deny - Linux/Unix

Sort of.  *nix /etc/hosts works primarily as a name resolver for non DNS
local networks.  /etc/hosts.deny sets the base policy for access to your
localhost; usually All: All, as in deny everyone.  /etc/hosts.allow sets
exceptions to the base policy, e.g. if you want everyone in your LAN to
have access to your computer you'd make the entry:  All :
192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0.  Season to taste.

While the listed bypasses will work, that is not really the intent of
the /etc/hosts file and may serve to slow down other surfing since hosts
is the first file looked at in domain name resolution.

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Re: Yahoo REfuses to allow the new version of their Yahoo mail on SeaMonkey

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

PhillipJones wrote:
> Received a message from Yahoo this morning to update my Yahoo Mail. I go 
> to do it.  First thing doesn't accept SeaMonkey at all. So I have the UA 
> set to show FireFox 4. still doesn't accept What's with that?

Must be a Mac thing. I just updated with UA  Build identifier:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110625 Firefox/7.0a1
SeaMonkey/2.4a1

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Password manager question

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

After so many attempts to enter a site I was once registered to, but not
in Password Manager, the prompt to Remember Password no longer appears.
 I finally remembered the password and want the Manager to remember it.
 How do I wake up the prompt?

I hope that's clear ;-)

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Re: Password manager question

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:37:30 -0500, /Rinaldi J. Montessi/:
> 
>> It's a (seems to be) pretty standard webmail login page.  It is a cookie
>> rich environment, however.  I'll see what's up there.
>>
>> lynx --head --dump http://www.windstream.net/wind/portal/index.aspx
> 
> I've just tried entering random values for email and password on:
> 
> https://www.windstream.net/wind/portal/Login.aspx
> 
> and I've got prompt to remember them after clicking on the "Sing-in" 
> button.  You may check whether you have not excluded the site from 
> remembering at some point:
> 
> Password Manager / Passwords Never Saved

Hrumph.  Seems to be a major disconnect between you and Phillip.

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Re: Password manager question

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Phillip Jones wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> George Carden wrote:
>>> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>>>> After so many attempts to enter a site I was once registered to, but not
>>>> in Password Manager, the prompt to Remember Password no longer appears.
>>>>I finally remembered the password and want the Manager to remember it.
>>>>How do I wake up the prompt?
>>>>
>>>> I hope that's clear ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Edit>  Preferences>  Privacy&  Security>  Passwords
>>>
>>> Tick the box to "Remember passwords"
>>
>> Yeah.  Thanks, but that's been done.
>>
>> What it seems to be is the Manager has a limited try feature.  After X
>> number of prompts it stops asking to Remember.
>>
> Always been like that give you three chances and that's it. been that 
> way all the way back to SM. 1.0

So...  Is there an over ride?

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Re: Password manager question

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:32:40 -0500, /Rinaldi J. Montessi/:
> 
>> After so many attempts to enter a site I was once registered to, but 
>> not in Password Manager, the prompt to Remember Password no longer 
>> appears.  I finally remembered the password and want the Manager to 
>> remember it.  How do I wake up the prompt?
> 
> Check they haven't changed the form elements to include 
> autocomplete="off". Trying the "remember password" bookmarklet (or just 
> observing the page source) should give you idea if that's the case:

Thanks.  Good idea but it didn't work.  I've had that bookmarklet since
it first came out and thought perhaps it would toggle something, but no
such luck.

> https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_password
> 
> If that's not the case you could be seeing Bug 354706 "Logins not filled 
> in on XML+XSLT page":

It's a (seems to be) pretty standard webmail login page.  It is a cookie
rich environment, however.  I'll see what's up there.

lynx --head --dump http://www.windstream.net/wind/portal/index.aspx

HTTP/1.1 200 OK

Connection: close

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:25:24 GMT

Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0

X-Powered-By: ASP.NET

X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727

Set-Cookie:
.ASPXANONYMOUS=-Khc5uTZgwczljswPB89xRsi8wR6CoqVrfZ9806soMkw6aW3LtCwC
6RJDrqwRui1Uyf7RZ5FjPJGZq2BI7ljkpbV932MloEZ42Og6P5R9jc1; expires=Tue,
13-Mar-201
2 04:05:24 GMT; path=/
Set-Cookie: ASP.NET_SessionId=4g0w1ezojxdwawfxwiqlta55; path=/
Set-Cookie:
DomainSession=TransactionId=11e95960bbf54a1ea09400c3c4deca01&Session
Id=f1bd254baad4493eb2e900c3c4deca01&ActionId=24d6ca9b5d714e7ab19700c3c4deca01&Co
okieDomain=.windstream.net; domain=.windstream.net; expires=Sun,
18-Apr-2010 17:
45:24 GMT; path=/
Set-Cookie:
DomainUserProfile=AnonymousId=968c178a97db4523846f00c3c4deca01&LastS
eenDateTime=4/18/2010 5:25:24 PM&IssueDateTime=4/18/2010 5:25:24
PM&CookieDomain
=.windstream.net; domain=.windstream.net; expires=Tue, 25-Mar-2110
17:25:24 GMT;
 path=/
Set-Cookie:
EncryptedSession=JiwiM1dRZ7Eq9KqBEe4Yy2Bmf29ZiT/Lx+PJJ4ntGML/5djWK9l
G1aQ1Zji5BAWaV4BqcjU1RyWOC+O7E1nR8w==; path=/
Cache-Control: private, no-store
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 169468
Set-Cookie: mitiktaun=4177696010.20480.; path=/

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Re: Password manager question

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Rufus wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> George Carden wrote:
>>> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>>>> After so many attempts to enter a site I was once registered to, but not
>>>> in Password Manager, the prompt to Remember Password no longer appears.
>>>>   I finally remembered the password and want the Manager to remember it.
>>>>   How do I wake up the prompt?
>>>>
>>>> I hope that's clear ;-)
>>>>
>>> Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords
>>>
>>> Tick the box to "Remember passwords"
>> 
>> Yeah.  Thanks, but that's been done.
>> 
>> What it seems to be is the Manager has a limited try feature.  After X
>> number of prompts it stops asking to Remember.
>> 
> 
> If you ever told it once not to remember, you need to go to the Password 
> Manager->Passwords Never Saved and remove the entry for that site, 
> before it will attempt to save it again.

Thank you, but that is not the case.  I repeatedly ignored the prompt to
Remember until it no longer showed.  I did check the never saved listing
just in case.  It was not there.

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Re: Password manager question

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George Carden wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> After so many attempts to enter a site I was once registered to, but not
>> in Password Manager, the prompt to Remember Password no longer appears.
>>   I finally remembered the password and want the Manager to remember it.
>>   How do I wake up the prompt?
>>
>> I hope that's clear ;-)
>>
> 
> Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords
> 
> Tick the box to "Remember passwords"

Yeah.  Thanks, but that's been done.

What it seems to be is the Manager has a limited try feature.  After X
number of prompts it stops asking to Remember.

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Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

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BeeNeR wrote:

> Absolutely.  That is just one of the reasons I've used Netscape,
> Mozilla, and now SeaMonkey.

Yes.  When did the integration take place?  Netscape version 3.0 or so?

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Re: Is SM a dying product?

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Devils_Advocate wrote:
> I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I 
> have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again.
> 
> Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already?

No.  It's an excellent product that's too advanced for some putzy sites.

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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

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Rufus wrote:
> JAS wrote:
>> Bush wrote:
>>> A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0
>>>
>>> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
>>>
>>>
>> I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site
>> with no problem.
>>
>> JAS
>>
> 
> Didn't work for me using SM 2.0 on a Mac...I tried turning JavaScript 
> off, and it still didn't work.
> 
See my UA

Microsoft VBScript runtime  error '800a000d'

Type mismatch: 'CDbl'

/Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134

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Re: Why does seamonkey.tgz for linux use deprecated libstdc++5 instead of libstdc++6 which is up to date

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi:
> 
>>$ ldd ./seamonkey-bin  | grep c++
>>libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7564000)
> 
> h...@e675 ~/seam/releases/gtk2/1.1.17/seamonkey $ ./seamonkey
> ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Hartmut

Interesting...


 System Requirements



* Linux

   - The following library versions (or compatible) are required:
 glibc 2.3.2, X.org 1.x, GTK 2.x, fontconfig, pango 1.10, libstdc++ 6.

I roll my own from the hg repository, most recent build was yesterday:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; rv:1.9.1.4pre)
Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/2.0b2pre

Are you building your own?

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Re: Why does seamonkey.tgz for linux use deprecated libstdc++5 instead of libstdc++6 which is up to date

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Rod Lovett wrote:
> Hi
> Why does seamonkey.tgz for linux use deprecated libstdc++5 instead of
> libstdc++6 which is up to date.
> This would make for easier installs.
> Instead it never changes the old file.
> Regards
> Rod
> 
$ ldd ./seamonkey-bin  | grep c++
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7564000)

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Re: Cant Access Annexcafe.com

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jim wrote:
> Thanks for Your Replies Peter & Rinaldi. No Luck.!. One gets this popup 
> Alert ,ie after I provide the Requested User name & Password !. (wish 
> this News/grp could take Attaches).The Pop up says. A news(NNTP)error 
> occurred:-ERR jmk...@annexcafe.com not present or Password correct.Were 
> Sorry,Your ip address Has been banned.Regards jim .PS I changed my 
> password recently.How can one inform Annexcafe re this ?

Same thing happened here.  I got the following boilerplate from annexcafe:
---
Sorry you're having problems, you should simply be able to re-enter your
username/password into your newsreader following the instructions here:

Windows Live Mail:  http://www.annexcafe.com/windowslivemail.cfm
Thunderbird:  http://www.annexcafe.com/thunderbird.cfm
OE & Window Mail:  http://www.annexcafe.com/newshelp.cfm

If you've forgotten your password:

Retrieve Password:  http://www.annexcafe.com/accounts/getpassword.cfm

Any further problems, don't hesitate to ask

Rick
OBO Adminteam

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Re: Cant Access Annexcafe.com

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jim wrote:
> One can Subscribe.Am asked for User name + Password (ie toAccess 
> same).Enter same .But No go !.I,ve posted regularly to this group over 
> the years .Now !!!.jim

Here's my settings for annexcafe:

http://envision.homelinux.net/Misc/annexcafe.png

Use the Password manager to remove any nntp authinfo for the server,
close the Suite, restart, and make appropriate entries.

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OT Re: 553 Could not create file.

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> Your UA doesn't tell me what OS you are using, so
>> I'm fishing a little.
> 
> sure it does.  Chances are you see G2/1.0.  Thats 
> google groups.  So, you need to View Source and from 
> there you will see:
> 
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 
> 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 
> SeaMonkey/1.1.15,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> 
> which shows you want you want.

*Sigh*  For the good old days...

I must be some form of Luddite.  I can't wrap my head around the concept
of webmail and webnews ;-)

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Re: 553 Could not create file.

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Plaza wrote:
> On Mar 25, 1:11 pm, "Rinaldi J. Montessi" 
> wrote:
>> Plaza wrote:
>> > On Mar 25, 11:43 am, "Rinaldi J. Montessi" 
>> > wrote:
>> >> Plaza wrote:
>> >> > When I finish editing a page and then go to publish it I get an error
>> >> > saying "553 Could not create file."  I have entered in all of the FTP
>> >> > settings and it successfully publishes the images, but not the HTML
>> >> > file?
>>
>> >> > Any Ideas?
>>
>> >>http://help.globalscape.com/help/cuteftpmacpro3/Numbered_FTP_status_a...
>>
>> >> Do you have any spaces in the file name?
>>
>> >> --
>> >> -Rinaldi-
>> >> To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide
>> >> a test load.
>>
>> > I have no spaces in the file name.
>>
>> Whatever the name of the file, try renaming it to index.html and re-publish.
>>
>> --
>> -Rinaldi-
>> It wasn't that she had a rose in her teeth, exactly.  It was more like
>> the rose and the teeth were in the same glass.
> 
> That did not work either.

Can I assume you are trying to publish to ftp://ftp.neuideas.com ?  If
you go to that link and enter your username and password it should give
you a listing of what is already on the site.  Are you trying to
overwrite an existing file?  Have you tried to use a regular ftp client
to post your data?  Your UA doesn't tell me what OS you are using, so
I'm fishing a little.

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Re: 553 Could not create file.

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Plaza wrote:
> On Mar 25, 11:43 am, "Rinaldi J. Montessi" 
> wrote:
>> Plaza wrote:
>> > When I finish editing a page and then go to publish it I get an error
>> > saying "553 Could not create file."  I have entered in all of the FTP
>> > settings and it successfully publishes the images, but not the HTML
>> > file?
>>
>> > Any Ideas?
>>
>> http://help.globalscape.com/help/cuteftpmacpro3/Numbered_FTP_status_a...
>>
>> Do you have any spaces in the file name?
>>
>> --
>> -Rinaldi-
>> To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide
>> a test load.
> 
> I have no spaces in the file name.

Whatever the name of the file, try renaming it to index.html and re-publish.

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Re: 553 Could not create file.

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Plaza wrote:
> When I finish editing a page and then go to publish it I get an error
> saying "553 Could not create file."  I have entered in all of the FTP
> settings and it successfully publishes the images, but not the HTML
> file?
> 
> Any Ideas?

http://help.globalscape.com/help/cuteftpmacpro3/Numbered_FTP_status_and_error_codes.htm

Do you have any spaces in the file name?

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Posting problem - bellsouth.net nntp server

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Using  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; rv:1.9.1b4pre) Gecko/20090312
SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre I cannot post to bellsouth's nntp server.

This is an hg build.

No problems with Pan/slrn/Thunderbird.

Can some other bellsouth user verify this?

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Re: 550 Permission Denied

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Gus Richter wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> Gus Richter wrote:
>>> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>>>> gabrielle wrote:
>>>>> I am brand new to web editing. SeaMonkey seems user friendly and the
>>>>> interface is something I can easily understand. I had no problem
>>>>> editing the site, but when I go to "publish", I continuously get an
>>>>> error that says "550 image filename.jpg permission denied". I have
>>>>> read all the help files there are for this problem (e.g. file name,
>>>>> format etc.), yet I still can't get this to work.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>>>>> -G
>>>> 550Requested action not taken. File unavailable (e.g., file not
>>>> found, no access).
>>>>
>>> What is your source of reference?
>>> This is mine:
>>><http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.5.6>
>> 
>> One is http the other (550) is ftp.
> 
> 
> What is your source of reference that you quoted, please?

Oh.  Sorry:

http://www.the-eggman.com/seminars/ftp_error_codes.html

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Re: 550 Permission Denied

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Gus Richter wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> gabrielle wrote:
>>> I am brand new to web editing. SeaMonkey seems user friendly and the
>>> interface is something I can easily understand. I had no problem
>>> editing the site, but when I go to "publish", I continuously get an
>>> error that says "550 image filename.jpg permission denied". I have
>>> read all the help files there are for this problem (e.g. file name,
>>> format etc.), yet I still can't get this to work.
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>>> -G
>> 
>> 550  Requested action not taken. File unavailable (e.g., file not
>> found, no access).
>> 
> 
> What is your source of reference?
> This is mine:
><http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.5.6>

One is http the other (550) is ftp.

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Re: 550 Permission Denied

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gabrielle wrote:
> I am brand new to web editing. SeaMonkey seems user friendly and the
> interface is something I can easily understand. I had no problem
> editing the site, but when I go to "publish", I continuously get an
> error that says "550 image filename.jpg permission denied". I have
> read all the help files there are for this problem (e.g. file name,
> format etc.), yet I still can't get this to work.
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
> -G

550 Requested action not taken. File unavailable (e.g., file not
found, no access).

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Re: To Rinaldi Montessi (Re: AT&T change over FOLLOWUP

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Daniel wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
>>>> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> 
>>> Ros, what Peter did . . . . Then Peter did a
>>> cut-and-paste into his mail.
>> 
>> who!?
>> 
> 
> Ros as in ROStyslaw!!

The question arose because information I posted was attributed to Peter.

I have no problem with that ;-)

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Re: AT&T change over FOLLOWUP

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Lee wrote:
> Well I followed the instructions provided by Peter P.
> and Rostyk and am now able to receive email but cannot
> send.  Just went through about 1/2 hour with AT&T CSR
> with negative results, deleted SeaMonkey and reinstalled
> with no luck.
> 
> I can use the browser no problem
> I can receive email no problem
> I can use the browser and get and send email with no problem
> I can use the newsgroups also with no problem.
> 
> AT&T will call back to see if the reinstall did any good
> which it did not so any tips this one has me beat.  I have
> changed the password on my modem, router, and web site and
> they all match.  They even did the remote connection and
> could not figure it out.
> 
> Perplexed bothered and bewildered
> 
> L e e (in Florida)

I haven't read the whole thread, but I recently went through this with
the change from bellsouth to att.yahoo.  Enter about:config in the space
for url's and filter on smtp.  The results should look something like this:

user_pref("mail.identity.id1.smtpServer", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.identity.id2.smtpServer", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.identity.id3.smtpServer", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.identity.id4.smtpServer", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.identity.id5.smtpServer", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.identity.id6.smtpServer", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.smtp.defaultserver", "smtp2");
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.auth_method", 1);
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.description", "Bellsouth/ATT/Yahoo");
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.hostname", "smtp.att.yahoo.com");
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.port", 465);
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.trySecAuth", false);
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.try_ssl", 3);
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.useSecAuth", false);
user_pref("mail.smtpserver.smtp2.username", "yourn...@bellsouth.net");
user_pref("mail.smtpservers", "smtp2");

This is actually out of my profile, but the filter results should be
quite similar.  Point is to make sure whatever your default server is,
it is the correct one.

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Re: Does anyone know Pivoxy.org's privacy protection software?

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> http://www.privoxy.org/
>> and
>> http://www.privoxy.org/user-manual/index.html   their manual
>> 
>> This is a program mentioned in Popular Science March 2009 page 78.
>> 
>> It supposedly warns one if a link is going to redirect you to another site.
>> 
>> Apparently Google has a plugin that will do the same thing.
>> 
>> Does anyone here know about it or used it ?
>> 
>> DoctorBill
> 
> I used privoxy once, and it was far too much trouble 
> than it was worth.  I gave up with it.

Peter the Impatient Hippo?  I've used privoxy for several years on both
Windows and Linux boxes.  Yes, it does require some tweaking if you're
not happy with the defaults.

Regarding redirects, what privoxy does is truncate, e.g.,

http://some.place/some_script?http://some.where-else

bypassing http://some.place/some_script? and going directly to
http://some.where-else

This can be reconfigured on a per site basis if you don't like the defaults.

I don't recall ever seeing a warning, however.  Privoxy works silently
in the background without throwing up a lot of eye candy when it's doing
it's job.

> I have to idea about google's
> 
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Re: Issues with email

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Eric wrote:
> Recently I had trouble downloading email from my ISP.  They told me what 
> to do to fix it, they wanted me to change my port to 445 and turn on 
> ssl.  Well that didn't work so I set it back to Port 110 with ssl off, 
> that almost seemed to work.
> 
> Seamonkey showed that it was downloading the message, but it never 
> showed up in my inbox.  Any ideas as how to fix it?

Yes.  Go back and do what your ISP told you to do.  Odds are the message
you didn't get on port 110 was a note telling you to switch to ssl enabled.

When you check SSL the port should change automatically.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2 with better toolkit?

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J.O. Aho wrote:
> I have seen how Mozilla started out and now been renamed to SeaMonkey,
> one of the bad things that has happen is the adoption of the gtk2
> toolkit, a lot of things has been broken due of gtk2 (that worked fine
> in xlib, gtk and qt), now when it's supposed to become a major
> improvement, will we get back one of those better toolkits like Nokias QT?
> 
> It's horrible that the Linux version gets different key combinations or
> features disabled only for gtk2 is buggy and can't handle things
> correctly or is blocking things in a bad way.

I think you're being a bit subjective here.  Back when building a qt
version was an option, I gave it a try.  I immediately trashed it and
went back to gtk2.

I'm not sure what key strokes you're referring to but it seems to me the
majority of globally accepted strokes for gtk2/linux work as designed.
I do see some disparity in the way return/enter keys are interpreted,
but that is in SeaMonkey only, not FireFox.

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Re: to Rinaldi

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GerardJan wrote:
> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
>> GerardJan Vinkesteijn wrote:
>>> Dear Rinaldi,
>>>
>>> I am now on Fedora 10, so i lost the info you gave me on Fedora 9
>>>
>>> Please send me the URL so I can sort it out my self...
>>>
>>> sincerely yours
>>> GerardIjan
>>> gertjanvin...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> you can also send it to mozilla.general, i will find it
>>> thanx very much indeed
>>
>> Could you please refresh my memory?  What did I send you.
>>
> 
> Dear Rinaldi,
> 
> I have a Fedora.redhat.com system and it was very slow in domain 
> handling, so we decided to get ipV6 to remove, thus we did a lot of 
> /ping/ tests and you helped with how to do that.
> 
> I've found that paper what gave the instructions how to do that, but i 
> forgot to file it. Does that ring a bell with you ?

I searched through my Sent archive and found this:

http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-fedora-linux-why/

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Re: to Rinaldi

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

GerardJan Vinkesteijn wrote:
> Dear Rinaldi,
> 
> I am now on Fedora 10, so i lost the info you gave me on Fedora 9
> 
> Please send me the URL so I can sort it out my self...
> 
> sincerely yours
> GerardIjan
> gertjanvin...@gmail.com
> 
> you can also send it to mozilla.general, i will find it
> thanx very much indeed

Could you please refresh my memory?  What did I send you.

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Re: linux file associations

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

seam...@gmx-topmail.de wrote:
> I am working with seamonkey 1.1.14 on openSuSE 11.1 (kde4).
> 
> When I click on a pdf-file seamonkey wants to open it with gimp. I
> have setup seamonkey to open pdf-files with the "default"
> application.

You should be able to edit this through:

Edit>Preferences>Browser>Helper Applications

The info is stored in ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/*.default/mimeTypes.rdf

> Where does seamonkey take the information about the "default"
> application from? Obviously kde settings are ignored. Is this defined
> somewhere in gnome since seamonkey seems to be a gtk application?

http://kb.mozillazine.org/MimeTypes.rdf

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Re: What controls system font size?

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of 
> seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I 
> can't seem to change them.
> 
> Tried:
> - font settings in about:config
> - using other themes
> 
> The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the 
> "subjects" display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, 
> where 
> are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config?

You should be able to reach your font settings via
Edit>Preferences>Appearance

about:config here shows:

font.minimum-size.x-western;17
font.size.fixed.x-western;17
font.size.variable.x-western;17

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