Re: Need some advice- Feedback

[S. Beaulieu]

S. Beaulieu a écrit :

I've just had exactly the same thing happen to me! I've been
auto-compacting for years without any problem and all of a sudden today,
all messages in my inbox got deleted in the process. I didn't change
anything to my settings whatsoever—it just happened. And I only had 20
messages or so in there, so quantity doesn't seem to be the problem.



Update!

After looking into this some more, I explored my profile's Mail folder, 
where I discovered that the Inbox.msf file for that account was empty, 
while the Inbox file itself still had plenty of stuff in it. I just shut 
down SM, deleted the .msf file and relaunched SM, and all my mail was back.


So it seems like it's a problem with the .msf file not regenerating 
properly.


Maybe Ken's mother's encountering the same situation: her email isn't 
really deleted, just hidden.


Hope this helps!

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Re: Need some advice- Feedback

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Ken a écrit :

 "I have a question.  When I am reading my new emails, the note
appears, "Compact Now?"  I just discovered if I say yes it deletes all
the messages that I have read, and I did not want them deleted.



I've just had exactly the same thing happen to me! I've been 
auto-compacting for years without any problem and all of a sudden today, 
all messages in my inbox got deleted in the process. I didn't change 
anything to my settings whatsoever—it just happened. And I only had 20 
messages or so in there, so quantity doesn't seem to be the problem.


Could it be a bug in 2.11?

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Exporting feeds

[S. Beaulieu]

I have a new job and am trying to export all my feeds so I can get them 
there (I'm stuck with using IE/Outlook, so I can't just copy the whole 
folder). Problem is, SM's feed export function doesn't export all feeds. 
None of my Twitter feeds, for example, get exported.


Since Twitter doesn't allow subscribing to account feeds without having 
an account anymore, I can't just re-subscribe. That's why I wanted to 
export them. (And no, I don't want to open a Twitter account just to get 
the feeds!)


So what do you suggest?

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Re: SM Mail not completing send

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Rickles a écrit :

I honestly can't
remember seeing this behavior with 2.0.14, and certainly not before the
v2 rollout.


I've had the complete opposite experience. I used to see that all the 
time until 2.0.14 but haven't seen it since.


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Re: sudden problem sending mail

[S. Beaulieu]

S. Beaulieu a écrit :


Trouble is, they now require that all emails originating from a Yahoo
email address go out through a connection using the same email address.


I forgot to add that that's exactly why you can still send mail from 
your admin address: it matches the SMTP.


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Re: sudden problem sending mail

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LMH a écrit :


An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: From
address not verified - see
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/original/manage/sendfrom-07.html.
Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail
preferences and try again.



I've encountered that problem before and it's a Yahoo server problem, 
not a SM one.


Basically, Yahoo doesn't want us to use their servers to send mail 
originating from non-Yahoo addresses. Any non-Yahoo addresses must be 
approved by them.


Trouble is, they now require that all emails originating from a Yahoo 
email address go out through a connection using the same email address.


Let me try to explain that better.

It used to be that you could configure the SMTP server with one Yahoo 
address (let's say outgoi...@yahoo.com) and its password and use it to 
send email originating from any Yahoo adress (like outgoi...@yahoo.com, 
outgoi...@yahoo.com, etc.). Made sense: Yahoo is Yahoo after all. Not 
anymore. Now, Yahoo requires that the SMTP address matches the email's 
sender.


So, basically, the solution is to add a separate SMTP server for each of 
your addresses in Seamonkey, making sure to link each address to its 
proper SMTP.


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Re: Adding Email Acct Problems...

[S. Beaulieu]

No a écrit :


I Am trying to add an email account and cannot do so. It (SM) only will
allow me to create a new 'newsgroup' account.



From the release notes:

"After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews 
account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To 
work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X 
is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in 
about:config, or delete the invalid news account (bug 521861)."


Link to the bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861

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Re: Made a Big Mistake !

[S. Beaulieu]

DoctorBill a écrit :

If you go to this screenshot I have made, you will see the Mouse Menu
Button Tab of what I get on Windows XP. Copy & paste into your browser.

http://www.mynetimages.com/4af876a70a.jpg

There is no select button 3 nor middle button select.



No, but there is a Wheel tab. The wheel *is* the third button.




My mouse driver is called "Wheel Mouse" and the button is set to "Double
Click"
http://www.mynetimages.com/3f86134d5d.jpg



Then change it to middle click!

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[S. Beaulieu]

Robert Kaiser a écrit :


What are you talking about? ChatZilla is surely still bundled.



I thought I'd read here that it now had to be installed separately. My bad!

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[S. Beaulieu]

Sailfish a écrit :


Oh, please do port Simple Green!


I enjoy Andy Fraley's Netscape/Thunderbird 9 Netstripe theme (Simple
Green) and the blue variation (Simply Blue) a lot but, regrettably, the
requirement to add all the additional toolbar button icons for Composer
and chatZilla isn't in the cards at this time.




Considering the fact that Composer is more or less dead and that 
chatZilla is not bundled with SM anymore, would it be possible to simply 
drop them both from the theme to make it available?


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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

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Sailfish a écrit :

Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions.



Oh, please do port Simple Green!

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Re: [SM2.3.3, Win7] View dropdown menu UI improvement ?

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Rostyslaw Lewyckyj a écrit :

I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed
update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an
SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons.

On the third menu bar on the email screen there is a dropdown
menu box called "View:" . When one clicks on the triangle in
the box, instead of a normal drop down list of choices,
the drop down list has a ball/bullet at the entry currently
selected, if it is All or Unread, and blank in the space on
the menu.
If one moves up or down between those two entries they fill
or blank respectively.
The other choices appear to behave normally.
Also if one chooses one of the other views, the bullet goes
away and it doesn't come back if one goes back to 'all'
or 'unread' without completing a choice.



Either I don't understand what you are saying or I'm not experiencing 
this behaviour. My View drop-down works perfectly fine and its "bullets" 
too, with no blank space.


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Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?

[S. Beaulieu]

Alex Baer a écrit :

This may or may not have been a great idea, but it became a
huge problem, when after a crash the index files were damaged, and the
program was unable to repair them, and all the structure information
about the hierarchy of folders was lost.



When you say index file, do you mean the .msf one associated to each 
folder and mailbox? The one that can be simply deleted because it will 
be automatically rebuilt on the next launch?


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Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?

[S. Beaulieu]

Alex Baer a écrit :

But in the Mozilla mail
clients it's possible to create virtual folder hierarchies and sub-
structures. And this is DANGEROUS with mbox. I have had no problems
with only one level of hierarchy (i. e. flat structure) using mbox.

So my request is actually: Either remove the capability to create
folder structures, or make it reliable.




What kind of unreliability are you talking about? I'be been using the 
same mbox file (folders and all) since 1997, successively moving from 
various versions of Netscape to Thunderbird, then to SeaMonkey. I never 
had any sort of problem, corruption or otherwise.


Of course, I compact my folders regularly and don't keep thousands of 
emails in my inbox (that's what the folders are for), so that might have 
something to do with it.


From my experience (since I manage all my relatives' computers and 
they've gone through the same mbox evolution as I have), I've never seen 
any problems with that file format (unlike Outlook's notorious "let's 
get automatically currupted once the file reaches X Mb" problem, for 
example).


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Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?

[S. Beaulieu]

dsavitsk a écrit :

I have backups, so I am okay data wise.  Really, the Thinkpad
scrolling thing is the one I can't get past, so a fix for that and I
am a happy enough camper to continue.


Just FTR, I don't have that problem on my Thinkpad, so it doesn't seem 
to be a general bug.


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Re: OT was Re: Stylish in 2.2

[S. Beaulieu]

Daniel a écrit :



D'oh! I'm an idiot!

Thank you!

S.



Could calling yourself names like that get you barred from here??



Bwahahaha! Let's hope not, because I'll never make it through another day!

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Unselect Message/Deselect on Delete

[S. Beaulieu]

I used to use Unselect Message to prevent Mail from automatically 
opening the next message in line when I delete a message. Why that is 
the default behaviour with no way of changing it has always baffled me. 
After all, it forces you to read spam, for example.


Anyway.

Now that I upgraded to 2.2, it's no longer compatible, even with the 
Compatibility Reporter. So I went to look for a replacement add-on. I 
found Deselect on Delete, available for Thunderbird. I asked if they 
planned to port it to SM, to which they replied no (see 
https://bitbucket.org/squib/deselect-on-delete/issues). I tried editing 
the file myself, but that didn't work (let's face it, I'm not that good 
with that type of coding!)


So, is there anyone who'd be able to port it so it would be compatible 
with 2.2+?


Thanks!

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Re: new 2.3

[S. Beaulieu]

Pat Connors a écrit :

Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new
version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of
all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't
know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using Windows 7
which seems to complicate all new program updates.

Just wondering how others using Win 7 have managed with the new update.




Well, FTR, I had no problem whatsoever going from 2.0.14 to 2.2 on both 
WinXP and Win7. Everything went like a charm, all my add-ons but one 
were compatible (and the one left isn't critical, just convenient) and 
most important, this new version solved a bug that was very annoying to 
me (the password boxes that weren't sequential anymore in Mail).


So all in all, I'm a very happy camper.

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Re: No Auto Upgrade Notice

[S. Beaulieu]

Larry a écrit :

Currently on SM 2.0.14, XP SP3. I've never received an upgrade notice to
any of the 2.x series (always got notices or upgrades before). My wife
has received all of them.



I had the same thing happen to me. When I checked the upgrade notice 
section of the Preferences, I noticed that for some reason, the SM 
upgrade box was unchecked, whereas it previously was and I didn't change it.


I don't know when that happened, but it might be something you'd want to 
look into.


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Re: Stylish in 2.2

[S. Beaulieu]

Stanimir Stamenkov a écrit :

There's an 1.2.1 version marked compatible with SM 2.2:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/versions/

I'm using it (along with Add-on Compatibility Reporter) with SM 2.3 for
sometime now, and haven't experienced problems.



Victory!

Thank you for your help!

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Re: Stylish in 2.2

[S. Beaulieu]

Forget the bit about Stylish: the version Staminir directed me to worked!

I'd still like to get Unselect messages back, though. ^_^

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Re: Stylish in 2.2

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Philip Chee a écrit :

And there is my slightly modified 0.6
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#stylish
(Note does not work in 2.5a because several somethings changed. No idea
what).


Thanks Phil.

I installed that one without a hitch, but even though my scripts are 
enabled, they are not applied. Got any idea why that is?


And while I'm at it, do you think you could port Unselect message for 
2.2+? Yesterday, I thought it was compatible, but I must have had my 
glasses on wrong because it isn't... ^_^;


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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

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PhillipJones a écrit :


How would you simulate Middle click with track pad built in a Laptop?






I'd configure the track pad's zones.

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Re: Stylish in 2.2

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Jens Hatlak a écrit :

There's an experimental version on AMO that is compatible with SM 2.2.


Hum. I can only find 1.2, which is listed as not compatible. Is that the 
one you meant?


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Re: Stylish in 2.2

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David E. Ross a écrit :




AMO = addons.mozilla.org



D'oh! I'm an idiot!

Thank you!

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Re: Stylish in 2.2

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Jens Hatlak a écrit :


There's an experimental version on AMO that is compatible with SM 2.2.
You may either install that one or the Add-ons Compatibilty Reporter.
The latter is also advisable for the soon to be released SM 2.3.



I have the Add-ons Compatibility Reporter, which makes it show in SM as 
usual, but the scripts aren't taken into account, so I'd say the version 
I had truly isn't compatible.


AMO = alt.mozilla.?

Thanks!

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Stylish in 2.2

[S. Beaulieu]

Has Stylish been ported yet for 2.2? I can't seem to find any info, and 
not having the row colours alternating in Mail makes it harder to manage 
on my big screen.


Thanks!

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

[S. Beaulieu]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) a écrit :


Already incorporated into my "standard working practice" for
this list. It takes a chap a little while to get up to speed,
don't you know ? :-)



Well, better late than never!

S.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

[S. Beaulieu]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) a écrit :


Yes, I did receive a bounce; several, in fact. So, realising
that my messages were not getting through to the original sender,
because he/she had obfuscated his/her address, I did the gentlemanly
thing and manually removed the obfuscation, so that he/she would
receive my intended reply.



I think the problem here is one in communication. You try to do the 
gentlemanly thing by replying both to the group/list/whatever and to 
Daniel (or any other person), eliminating the obfusccating part in the 
process. Doing so, though means that Daniel's address is openly 
communicated through the g/l/w, which goes against his wish of keeping 
it from spider bots. So by trying to be gentlemanly, you actually are 
going against Daniel's wish to keep his address private. Add to that the 
fact that he now gets the same reply *twice* from you (once the g/l/w 
and once in his email) and I think you can begin to see why it annoys him.


So that's why he thinks you are going through a lot of trouble to annoy 
him since if you simply deleted his address from the reply field (rather 
than editing it to deobfuscate it), it would be less work for you and 
nicer to him (or anyone else).


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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

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NoOp a écrit :


Philip and Keith are using the maill list rather than nntp.




Well, that would explain it!

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

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PhillipJones a écrit :


See this http://www.screencast.com/t/Ed4zTltF3zEr

It grayed out here because its in this newsgroup
Email and some newsgroups they are active.



It's basically the same thing I see. Is it possible you sort of 
double-click on the tiny arrow (that looks like an inverted triangle) by 
mistake rather than clicking on the button itself? The menu doesn't show 
for me if I don't click on the arrow.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

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Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) a écrit :

OK, you appear to display toolbars as graphics; I display
them as text, and see no arrows (there is presumably no
textual equivalent to an arrow).



Can you try switching to text+graphics or just graphics to see if the 
behaviour changes?


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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

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Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) a écrit :


It would help if you could post a screenshot shewing this
mysterious arrow; I see none here (Seamonkey 2.2 under
Win/XP PRO;SP3).


Here's the screeenshot, where I included an arrow to point at the tiny 
arrow.


http://www.sereenie.com/images/screenshot.jpg

SM2.0.14 (still waiting for the automatic update!) on WinXP SP3. And 
since this is a newsgroup, I'm using an NNTP server.


Behaviour:
Reply: Replies only to the newsgroup
Reply all: Replies to the NG and the sender
Reply to sender: Replies only to the sender

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

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Keith Whaley a écrit :

When I put my mouse cursor over "Reply" it specifically says "Reply to
the message." If it actually _did_ that, that would be ideal, but it
doesn't.



As I said in my previous message, it does here. I've never, ever had it 
reply to the poster personally. The only way I can do that is by 
clicking on the tiny arrow that shows on the Reply button and then 
choose the option to reply to the sender only. The button itself replies 
to the group, as it should.


You must have changed something on your end if that's not the behaviour 
you see.


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Re: two copies of every spam messages arrive

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sean nathan bean a écrit :


wondering if anyone has an explanation as to why the aol servers send me
two copies of all the spam... anyone else seeing this via the @aim @aol
@netscape servers?



No problem on my end with my @netscape addy.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.2 e-mail client : where has right=click "Paste as quotation" gone ?

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Keith Whaley a écrit :


Every time I send a response to a message on this group, I need special
care that I don't end up sending my response to ONLY the person who
posted his message last.



That's odd as when I click the Reply button to reply to a message from 
the list (like this one), only the group's address shows up in my 
address bar, never the original sender's. I've never had to take any 
special care in replying. I don't understand why that wouldn't be the 
case for Philip and you.


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Re: Add signature

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Michael Gordon a écrit :

That is all true if you have different mail accounts.

<

No, it is true for a single account. One of my accounts is set up with 
eight identities, with various signatures and names associated to them. 
It's all in the same account, with the same email address.


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Re: Add signature

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Bill Spikowski a écrit :

I use a single e-mail account for personal mail, business mail, and
various nonprofit activities -- that's why I'm looking for a solution
that doesn't restrict me to a single signature for that account.

How would I change sig files for particular messages, given the
one-sig-per-account limitation?



In 2.0 (and I expect in 2.1 also), you can define separate identities 
for each account, and each identity can have its own sig. You need to go 
in Edit -> Account Settings, then click on your account's name. You 
should then see a Manage identities button. Click on it, and there you 
can add identities (for example, one for business, one for personal, one 
for nonprofit).


Once you're done with that, you can select the proper identity when you 
compose an email by clicking on the Sender bar at the top of your email 
writing window, which will allow you to choose which identity to use. 
Once you select it, you'll see its signature appear. If you change 
identity at this point, the sig will also change.


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Re: Images don't appear in e-mails

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Bill Spikowski a écrit :


I can't figure out why moving the stored emails should create this odd
problem, but that's apparently where the problem comes in




Details aren't quite clear on my end, but I remember image settings 
being defined individually for each email address. I don't have time to 
look into this right now, but hopefully, it will give you a lead or 
spark an idea in someone's mind so they can shed some light on this.


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Re: Disappearing bookmarks

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Jens Hatlak a écrit :

Another idea is that the issue you see is caused by some extension you
have installed. You may want to check your Error Console (Tools/Web
Development), filtering out any errors related to bookmarks.



The only error there (but it's there about 50 times!) reads "reference 
to undefined property window.Dialog", source file 
http://statik.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v1/yJ/r/mp8y0LAFYM5.js, line 12. 
Whatever that is...


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Re: Disappearing bookmarks

[S. Beaulieu]

Jens Hatlak a écrit :

Otherwise, if there is a problem with this in your SM version (2.0) it
won't be fixed for that version since the new version (2.1, which is
about to be released soon) and any later version will use a new format
to store them. On the upside, the new version also makes back-ups
automatically and allows to easily restore them.


Question being, will it backup the proper bookmark file (which isn't 
accessed by anything else than SM when the problem happens) or the... 
"empty" (it's not really empty, though, it just doesn't show) one I 
currently see on startup?


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Disappearing bookmarks

[S. Beaulieu]

Occasionally, I've seen bookmarks disappear in SM, on various computers. 
Usually, a simple restart is all that's needed and everything is back on 
track.


So is not the case today. My bookmarks have disappeared in SM even 
though the bookmarks.html file is in the profile and fully populated.


Yesterday, I "imported" those bookmarks again, reconfiguring the 
personal bar and all, and all seemed well. This morning, though, my 
bookmarks are gone again.


Sure, I can reimport them once again, but the fact remains that it's not 
normal for the bookmarks file to occasionnaly go undetected like that.


What could I do to solve this problem for good?

Thank you.

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Re: access Mozilla SeaMonkey aite

[S. Beaulieu]

Keith Whaley a écrit :

For some reason, I cannot access the seamonkey site, by way of the
throbber, nor can I by Google, typing in www.mozilla.seamonkey - or any
other permutations of the above.


www.seamonkey-project.org

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Re: RSS feeds

[S. Beaulieu]

keith_w a écrit :

How DO I subscribe to said feeds, please?


Go to their web page. Look at your URL bar, where you'll see the RSS 
logo to the right. Click on that logo.


You can also click on RSS feeds within web pages, when they are offered 
there.


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Re: Can't add new Email account

[S. Beaulieu]

user@domain.invalid a écrit :

Trying to add new IMAP E-mail account on clear.net but
the dialog box to select Email, Newsgroup, etc never appears
and the subsequent dialog boxes are for adding a Newsgroup
not an E-mail account.



Sounds like this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521627

See the last message for the workaround.

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Re: Cannot install Adobe Acrobat Reader

[S. Beaulieu]

Ray_Net a écrit :

Too late  i already succed with IE8 (i am in windows7) - The
remaining problem is that my SM is now without the Adobe plug-in.


Foxit also works in IE.

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Re: Cannot install Adobe Acrobat Reader

[S. Beaulieu]

When i try to install adobe reader from the web (
http://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/ ), it ends with inside SM the message:
"Adobe DLM (powered by getPlus(R)) 1.6.2.102 could not be installed
because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.10."

What could i do ?


Install Foxit Reader instead. Fully SM compatible and much lighter too.

www.foxitsoftware.com

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Re: getting emails from one pc to another

[S. Beaulieu]

Ray_Net a écrit :


Will SM under Win7 convert to the correct Win7 locations ?


It's always done it for me and I've used that exact process on a dozen 
computers at work, over a year ago. Everything works fine as long as the 
whole folder is copied. Just make sure you have the same version of SM 
on both computers. Also,on the new one, check that you don't already 
have a profile or it might get deleted (I'm not sure, but I wouldn't try 
it anyway).


I know you can also use Mozbackup for this, but I've never used it 
myself, so I can't really comment.


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Re: getting emails from one pc to another

[S. Beaulieu]

Ray_Net a écrit :

In other words .. how to have the same pieces of SM 2.0.10 in win7 the
same as when under XP ?
Should i fiddle a lot ? and how ?


In WinXP, go in name>\Application Data\Mozilla\> and copy the whole SeaMonkey folder to 
a USB stick. In Win7, copy the folder in name>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\>. Everything will be automatically 
available as you are used to it, settings, look-and-feel, email and all, 
for all profiles if there are more than one.


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Re: Where's the RSS feed button?

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J. Weaver Jr. a écrit :

If you switch back to _old_ Twitter (it's an item on the menu with your
username on it, in the upper right corner), the RSS icon will reappear.



Yeah, but I don't have a Twitter account. It's why I need those feeds!

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Where's the RSS feed button?

[S. Beaulieu]

I subscribe to many Twitter feeds through RSS. To do so, I use the RSS 
icon in SM's address bar. This morning, though, I tried to follow one 
more feed, but I can't find the RSS icon anymore. I think Twitter might 
have changed something, but since it's also the first time I try to do 
so since upgrading from .13 to .14, I'm wondering if that couldn't be 
the problem too.


So, how can I now subscribe to a feed if I can't conveniently do it 
anymore using the RSS feed icon?


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Re: New control of mouse-click-menus - additional click necessary now - drives my hand crazy

[S. Beaulieu]

Ray_Net a écrit :

Context menu is opened by using only the right-click ... all well-done
windows programs will permit that without the need of pressing the ctrl
key in the same time. The middle-button (not present on every mouse)
will do other things but not opening the context menu.



But that's not what he said. He said he was only clicking the left 
button and holding it down to select the proper option. That's not 
right-clicking.


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Re: New control of mouse-click-menus - additional click necessary now - drives my hand crazy

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go-arts a écrit :


Is there any means to get back the old quick and efficient feature?


You could always use the middle button, which automatically opens a new 
tab or window, depending on what you set SM to do, which requires even 
less work. I didn't even know about the feature you mentioned.



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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

[S. Beaulieu]

Ray_Net a écrit :



Did you feel that implementing IRC-Chat and RSS are more pressing
matters ? :-)



Well, as far as IRC goes, if I'm not mistaken, it's used by some 
programmers to interact. So far as it's used to push programming 
forward, I can't blame them for giving it priority. Plus, such a module 
has been available for years. Discontinuing it all of a sudden would not 
make any more sense than discontinuing the composer function, or the 
mail one.


As far as RSS goes, I guess it's a matter of demand. It's definitely 
useful and I am glad they implemented it sooner than later. Again, it 
makes life easier for a lot of people. It's direct value added for SM. I 
wouldn't say the same about your reply-forward example, which is a minor 
"problem" that only bothers a few people and already has a workaround.


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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

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Ray_Net a écrit :

Did you think that having the same action when replying than when
forwarding a mail is so much work . it's already existing in the
"forward" coding.



That's not for me to say. Seeing how it's hardly a critical problem, nor 
one that's bothering much people, I can't blame them for working on more 
pressing matters.


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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

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Ray_Net a écrit :

You may do exactly the same without tabs ...
I have also some sites opened 3 with SM and another with IE (sorry :-))
The bottom bar is very usefull and/or "ALT-TAB" to switch from one to
the other *no* *need* to wait for load nor login.



The bottom bar is *huge* and wastes too much space. Plus, as I said, and 
in spite of what you claim, multiple windows eventually make the 
computer crawl. Tabs keeps everything tidy and fast, with everything 
visible at once on the tabs.


You might like windows better and that's fine. That doesn't mean that 
tabs don't fill a need and aren't more useful in contexts other than yours.


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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

[S. Beaulieu]

Ray_Net a écrit :

Tabs sucks ... I never use tabs - no need ... why do you need windows
inside a window ?


Because, for example, in my job, I need to use four sites in succession 
hundreds of times a day. If I had only one window, I'd waste a huge 
amount of time going from site to site, waiting for them to load, 
logging on and so on. With tabs, All four sites are opened when I launch 
SM and once I've logged on, I don't need to change sites anymore: each 
one has its own tab and is quickly accessible with CTRL + Tab.


Tabs made my job waay easier.

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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

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Ray_Net a écrit :

Lokk at the huge amount of unresolved bugs and of
small-feature-needing-half-an-hour-work suggestion not implemented. And
this situation exist from 10 years ago.



If it's so simple, why don't you volunteer do it?

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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

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PhillipJones a écrit :


Well many of use users ask not to put a silly feature in or in some
cases to fix a problem and they problem don't get fixed or the silly
feature still shows up.




Tabs are not a silly feature and my computer would slow down to a crawl 
without them. They're a godsend in my work. As for fixing problems, I'm 
sure they would *love* to solve each and every one of them, but they 
have limited manpower. *Voluntary* manpower. They do what they can. In 
that context, of course they'll deal with those problems that affect the 
most people as opposed to those that only affect a scarce minority.


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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

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PhillipJones a écrit :

Explain Why the only Browsers I have a problem with Are Mozilla Browsers.



Because there is something in your system that conflicts with them for 
some reason.


I personally have had various versions of SM installed in Win2K, XP and 
7 as well as Red Hat Linux. I have installed it on numerous computers as 
the main browser, including on all my company's computers. None has 
caused me the types of problems you mention. I don't know anyone who has 
those problems.


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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

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PhillipJones a écrit :

The developers care nothing about the users. They are just beating their
chest and saying look what I have done. look what I have done.



The developers care very deeply about users. How can you think any 
otherwise?




The object of software design is to please the users. So Tht users will
use their product.


And that's exactly what they are doing. You have to understand that the 
fact that you don't like something and are very vocal about it doesn't 
mean your opinion is widely spread. The fact that developers come up 
with stuff that fits the needs of most users doesn't mean they're 
ignoring you, just that your taste isn't mainstream.


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Re: FEATURE REQUEST: email in new tab (just like opera)

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PhillipJones a écrit :

bang stuff that looks good. But it complicates code and makes
application run slower.



Again: much much less than having multiple windows open does.



The last version of SM 1 and all of the current 2.0 series, I have been
having problems with loading pages in the browser section. Often timing
out.



Camino Omniweb, and Opera, I can although capable of tabs, I have set
for windows instead of Tabs and same page load almost instantly.



I don't have such a problem, nor does anyone I know. Methinks this 
problem is on your end.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.13 Security Update

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Daniel a écrit :


However, when I start up, I'm in the Mail & Newsgroup and Chatzilla
screens only. When I then clicked the browser icon in the bottom left,
it showed the seamonkey-projects page, rather than my normal (three
page) home page. I 'x'ed out of the screen, re-clicked in the bottom
left and all was well.



AFAIK, that's normal behaviour. Whenever you update SM, it shows 
seamonkey-project.org on its first launch (and only its first launch) so 
you can see what changes have been implemented since the last version 
and so on.


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Re: Twitter through RSS feed

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Stéphane Grégoire a écrit :


On latest build on Seamonkey 2.1b3pre it works :

"S_Bourguignon: Cyberpresse titre:"Oscars: les Canadiens mordent la
poussière." Suis-je le seul à trouver ce titre inapproprié et dénué de
classe? "





Interesting. I'm still on 2.0.11. Maybe after all it's not a problem in 
my own settings but rather a glitch that has been corrected.


Merci d'avoir vérifié!

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Twitter through RSS feed

[S. Beaulieu]

I follow a few people on Twitter through the RSS feed in Mail. I have 
noticed that tweets are automatically truncated in Mail after a certain 
amount of characters, which isn't the 140 Twitter limit.


Take, for example, this tweet: 
http://twitter.com/S_Bourguignon/status/42289963483660288


In Mail, it's cut short after "ce titre inapproprié et dén", thus 
truncating the last 13 characters. Obviously, the whole 140 could appear 
in Mail, but why doesn't it? Is there a setting I can change somewhere 
to correct that situation?


It's not a huge problem since I can simply click on the tweet's link to 
read it all, but it's definitely annoying. I'd rather have it all in Mail.


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Re: Unable to change junk mail destination folder

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Update: I managed to solve the problem by erasing my profile, copying in 
its place an older version of it I'd saved and then recopying all my 
mail data files over those. This allowed me to change the destination 
folder of junk mail *before* deleting the account to which it was 
originally redirected, and then delete that said account.


It seems that the problem really was caused by that: suppressing an 
account whose junk folder was the destination folder for all accounts' 
junk mail. It screwed up something in the system, thus preventing me to 
make any more changes to the junk mail settings.


I think this is a bug that needs to be corrected. Sure, deleting such an 
account would leave junk mail settings "orphan", but it shouldn't block 
the system completely. The settings should still be modifyable.


Anyway, I thought I'd report back this in case someone else runs into 
this problem.


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Re: Where are SM mail files stored?

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Mike C a écrit :

Where are SM mail files stored in Win 7?

They used to be in User> AppData> local (with Win XP.)



Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\\Mail

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Re: Unable to change junk mail destination folder

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Michael Gordon a écrit :


Make sure "Quick Launch" is closed and disabled in SM, restart SM and
make your changes, then restart SM to verify your changes stuck.



As I said on Friday, there is no Quick Launch feature for SM2.x.

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Re: Unable to change junk mail destination folder

[S. Beaulieu]

Does anyone else have any idea? I was sort of hoping that the situation 
would be back to normal today, after having restarted my computer, but 
obviously, that isn't the case.


The current situation is, all the drop-down menus in my junk mail 
settings show up empty when I access that window. I can change them to 
whatever I want. I can click on OK, and the window closes. But the new 
settings are never saved. When I go back into the junk mail settings, 
the drop-down menus are all showing empty again.


Thanks!

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Re: Seamonkey not retrieving Gmail Inbox

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Marcia RodgersJaffe a écrit :

OK.  In Mail, Edit, Mail&  Newsgroups Account Settings, THEN the only
Synchr&  Storage us under news.mozilla.org AND I don't see (sync all
messages locally)  An I misconfigured?  And thanks for your help :)



I don't know. What do you see under your Google account (in the 
Newsgroup and account settings)?


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Re: Unable to change junk mail destination folder

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Michael Gordon a écrit :

I am sorry S., I don't have any other suggestions.


Thanks anyway!

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Re: Unable to change junk mail destination folder

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Michael Gordon a écrit :


There is only one possible reason for this to occur; have you checked to
be sure "Quick Launch" is disabled before making any changes to your SM
configurations?



I haven't had Quick Launch ever since I upgraded to SM2.x, and even 
before that, I didn't use it, so that can't be the problem.


BTW, FYI, I also tried recreating the email account I deleted, hoping 
that would at least allow me to make a change, but that didn't work either.


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Re: Seamonkey not retrieving Gmail Inbox

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Marcia RodgersJaffe a écrit :

it up as mail client for my Gmail account.  However, not all mssgs
from Gmail are being dl'l to Seamonkey.  When I press "Get Mssgs" I
get a reply, "No new messages on server"  But when I go into Gmail,
there are messages in the Inbox.  I have tried and retried, but to no
avail.

How do I get Seamonkey to retrieve all messages in the Gmail Inbox??



I think your synchronization settings are off. In Mail, go in Edit -> 
Account settings. Then, in your Gmail address's account, go in 
Synchronization and disk space. In the Disk space box, select the first 
radio button (to synchronize all messages locally, no matter how old). 
Click OK.


I think that's all there is to it.

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Re: Unable to change junk mail destination folder

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Extra info: the OK button suddenly started working again for some 
reason, but the settings are not saved once I click it. I tried several 
times and the result is always the same.


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Unable to change junk mail destination folder

[S. Beaulieu]

I just deleted an email account properly through Edit - Account Settings 
- Delete. (The exact names my be off as my SM is in French—bear with me!)


Except I forgot that its junk folder was set as the destination folder 
for all my other accounts. No problem, I figure I'll just go change the 
settings in all other accounts. Except it doesn't work: I can change the 
setting alright, but SM doesn't save it, no matter how many times I try. 
I can't even uncheck the "Move new junk mail to" box. The drop-down menu 
appears empty (in fact, all drop-down menus in that window appear empty) 
and when I select the right destination folder, the OK button doesn't 
work: I click and nothing happens. If I select a destination folder and 
just leave this window with the X, then the setting isn't saved, of course.


Any ideas how to solve this? It's not a huge problem, since junk mail 
simply remains in the main email window, but it's really annoying.


Thanks!

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Re: Main password unresponsive

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Jens Hatlak a écrit :


The Master Password protects your passwords (and certificates), nothing
else. It's not a means of blocking access to SeaMonkey. That you'd have
to achieve through your OS (Windows) or other tools (e.g. for profile or
hard-disk encryption).



Ahhh! There you go! I don't use the password manager at all. I just 
assumed that the Master Password was a way to prevent other users from 
accessing my email. That explains it.


Thanks for your help!

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Re: Main password unresponsive

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David E. Ross a écrit :


To see your master password as (or after) you enter it, install the Show
Password On Input extension at
.




Nah, my password was fine before I left from vacation, so that's not the 
problem. The problem is the fact that SM runs as usual *after* I clicked 
the cancel button, thus beating the purpose of having a main password.


Unless the main password doesn't do what I think it is meant to.

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Main password unresponsive

[S. Beaulieu]

I just came back from vacation and my main password is acting weird.

After I've launched SM, the password window showed up, which I fill. It 
tells me I have the wrong password. Huh? OK, I guess I mistyped, so I 
type it again. It still tells me I'm wrong, so I figure my vacations 
scrambled my brain and I input another password I use­. Still no go. I 
retype both in case I really mistyped, and it still doesn't work. So I 
then decide to let it rest for a bit since I seem to have gotten 
confused in all my passwords, so I click the cancel button.


Then SM is launched, with all my email accounts open. I tried to change 
the password again, but it refuses to let me do so.


So on the one hand, the password seems to be all wonky and on the other, 
SM lets me use its features completely, ignoring the protection that is 
supposed to be afforded by the password.


So what's going on? Does anyone have an idea?

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Re: SM 2.0.11 didn't install

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Ken a écrit :


But when I re-booted the computer and after the supposedly upgraded SM
asked about my various preferences and stuff like that, I eventually
decided to click on Help/About SeaMonkey. Surprise. It still shows my
version to be 1.1.16.

Yet my Norton System Doctor shows a drop of over 1000MB in available space.



Are you sure you launched the right version of the software? Unless you 
uninstalled 1.1.16, it's still on your computer as well as 2.0.11. If 
the shortcut hasn't been replaced, than using it will launch the older 
SM rather than the newer one.


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Re: !!! DANGER !!!! Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.11 Security Update

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vij a écrit :

This version just remove all mail marked as read in the inbox folder



Hum... no. Are you sure you haven't modified a setting without realizing 
it? There is one that hides all mail older than X days, for example.


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Re: Forms Fill

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Phillip Jones a écrit :

If they thought people used it they would made more of an effort.



That is condescending to the point of being insulting. Way to go, mate.

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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

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Jane_Galt a écrit :


Socialist types constantly smear him but he's right most of the time on
facts.





I have this nice bridge you might be interested in...

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Re: Forms Fill

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Phillip Jones a écrit :

I seem to recall a conversation here or another group where the creator
of the Forms module in SM1 is long gone and they don't have anyone with
enough smarts to figure out the code, so they just scrapped it thinking
no one used it. Since developers don't use the features they create.



Stop spreading nonesense. No, they didn't scrap it "because they thought 
no one used it". They scrapped it because the code was very complex and 
obsolete and was a security problem.


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Re: Has this tracking bug been fixed in Seamonkey?

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Ed Mullen a écrit :

There is also C:\Users\[user name]AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash
Player\#SharedObjects


Yes, it exists, but I've never seen anything stored in it except an
empty folder.





Mine had a bunch of stuff in it. It basically looked the same as the 
other folder.


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Re: Has this tracking bug been fixed in Seamonkey?

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Ed Mullen a écrit :


With my XP i have also a lot of directories and files here:
C:\Documents and Settings\RAY\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\#SharedObjects\SLACWPMQ\


Windows 7 Professional ...

C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash
Player\macromedia.com\support\flashplayer\sys




There is also C:\Users\[user name]AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash 
Player\#SharedObjects


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Re: AAAAAAARGGG stupid stupid - Version 2

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BJD a écrit :


Once the upgrade was done, all but one of my profiles (emails,
newsgroups, setup info for groups & emails, etc) were gone.
There was no undo key.



That's the standard behaviour. Only one profile from SeaMonkey 1.x is 
migrated to SeaMonkey 2.0.10 automatically. You need to import the other 
ones manually. Don't fret: it's easy: see 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

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Rick Merrill a écrit :


What do you find unsatisfactory about putting the same user
in the address book with slightly different name?


Because then you have to fill in all the other info for all the 
addresses rather than doing it just once. (Why? Because you don't want 
to have to labour through a dozen addies to find just the one that has 
all the relevant info...)


I do agree that it would be an improvement to be able to add more than 
two emails per contact.


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Re: SM 2.1b1 Custom Theme only shows up in Browser window, not Mail window :-(

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Michael Lueck a écrit :


I installed my fav from Firefox 3.6.x and it only shows up in SM Browser
windows, not the main Mail window.


It makes sense that a theme created for Firefox would only work on the 
browser portion of SeaMonkey.


I suggest getting a SeaMonkey theme rather than a Firefox one. Then in 
will be applied in both the browser and Mail.


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

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u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


login to company a, apply for email
login to company b, apply for email




Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to 
know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in 
SM's address book.


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Re: I never knew SM's Mail & Newsgroups could do tabs.

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Rufus a écrit :


I generally don't leave more than one tab open during a session, but I
do use them during just about every session. Mainly with the Browser,
not so much with Mail/News...but that habit may change.



It depends what you use your browser for. At home, I do the same you do 
but at work, I always have 7 tabs open (one databank in each). There is 
no noticeable slowdown and I don't have a fancy shmancy system or 
anything, so I don't know what Phillip's trouble is re: tabs.


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Re: tried again with seamonkey 2.* ...sigh

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L. Mark Hall a écrit :


I tired to import my old profiles with the manual method; create a new
profile with the exact name of the old profile, select the folder
containing the old profile, close SM, open SM and select the profile
from the list. Now when I open the profile, it is just a new profile
with none of the data from my old profile. When I go and look at the
profile folder, I discover that SM has DELETED ALL OF THE OLD CONTENTS.



Well, of course. 1.1.X profiles are not directly compatible with 2.x 
profiles. That's absolutely not the way to do it. That method would work 
with email accounts (I think, correct me if I'm wrong), but not with a 
whole profile.


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Re: Incremental v2.0.10 update problem?

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Ant a écrit :


I am trying to get the full update for my current v2.0.9 installation,
but it is not connecting. What's up? :(


I had the same problem when I tried to do it through the Help menu. I 
gave up after an hour and downloaded the file directly from the website. 
Works like a charm.


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Re: Q: How to select Firefox as the default browser in SM emails

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Jay Garcia a écrit :


You can't that I am aware of. It's an old bug from the Netscape 7 days
that you can't use another browser. It seems that it's never been fixed yet.



Why would that be a "bug"? SM is an all-in-one. I wouldn't expect it to 
work any other way.


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Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!

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Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :


This business of saving sensitive data without my permission and against
my will, and making the decision for me without asking, is very
Microsoft. I wouldn't have expected it from a Mozilla program.


It doesn't save data without your permission since you activated the 
form data saving feature. It saves form data. If you don't want form 
data saved, then deactivate the feature.


Now you might want it to work differently. Fair enough. (I think that 
something like the password manager could be a good idea for people who 
do want to use the form data saving feature.) But it's not right to 
imply that SM is based on M$-type tactics when it's just doing precisely 
what you requested it to do.


Either you want it to save form data or you don't.

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Re: Email problem

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ldj1...@sbcglobal.net a écrit :



I still can't find inbox folder.


You need to make sure that you set up your OS to show hidden files or 
else you won't see your profile.


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Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data

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HenriK a écrit :

As noted in my original post, this is NOT a passwords issue. What I am
referring to is other data where one simply fills in boxes on a website.


It might not be a password issue per se, but I believe it's the same 
engine that remembers all this info, thus the password setting is the 
one that activates or disactivate this behaviour.


Make sure that box is unchecked, as well as, under Confidentiality and 
security, the one for Search and form data.


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Re: Cannot send except at home

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d...@kd4e.com a écrit :

The 3 different E-mail accounts are hosted on 3 different servers
by 3 different providers (my ISP, GoDaddy, and a small company).



I also have on my laptop three email accounts hosted on three servers. 
The thing is, in all cases, the SMTP account is the same one: the one 
from my ISP. That is because GoDaddy and such usually don't offer SMTP 
connections, just mailboxes. You need to provide your own connection to 
access email (because GoDaddy is not an ISP, just a host).


What that means is, if I'm at home, I don't need to define a user name 
and password for SMTP since they automatically detect that I am using 
their network (duh, I'm home!). When I'm somewhere else, though, using 
WiFi or whatever, that is not the case. They see I am on a different 
network, trying to access theirs to send email. The email address I am 
using is of no importance, even if it is myaddr...@myisp.com. They just 
detect the network used.


In those cases, my user name and password for my ISP account must be 
defined in SeaMonkey. That allows my computer to "tell them" that I 
really am just one of their users accessing their server from another 
network.


That is done in the navigator, in Edit --> Account Settings --> Outgoing 
servers. Edit your settings there to put in whatever needs to be put in 
(your ISP can give you this info if you don't have it, and it's usually 
posted on their website).


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Bookmarks disappearing after update

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The same situation occurred twice here this morning, on two different 
computers. After the update to 2.0.8, all bookmarks including the 
bookmarks bar, disappeared. The strange thing is that when I navigate to 
the profile folder, the bookmarks file is there and still contains all 
its bookmarks.


I just reimported them all, which worked fine, but it's still not 
supposed to happen like that. How can the bookmark file be there, but 
not be used?


Thanks!

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Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!

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Blisset® a écrit :

Hi, incredibly Seamonkey (I tested 2.0.8 version) don't support Cut-
Copy-Paste and "@" symbol. I even can't paste url in the urlbar!! I
can't print @ in a window



This reminds me of a problem I used to have. Do you use a McAfee 
antivirus (which sometimes is repackaged under another name?). If so, 
its Site Adviser is causing the problem. See 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601 (notably posts 6 to 15).


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Re: Lightning Calendar?

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d...@kd4e.com a écrit :

Is the Lightning Calendar Add-on supported, or planned
for support, in Seamonkey?



It's compatible. I am using it. When I originally installed it, the 
filename was lightning-1.0b1-tb+sm-win.xpi if it helps you find it.


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