Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

2021-03-31 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 3/30/2021 9:44 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.7.


Thanks to all involved!


Jokes aside, it's been a blast posting here and I'm certainly
unhappy that it's going the same way as irc.mozilla.org.  But
perhaps the new 'thing' will be better?


Did I miss what the new 'thing' is?  FRG suggested mozillazine, and of 
course there is the blog.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

2021-01-22 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 1/22/2021 11:13 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open


Worked fine here, although M$ "helpfully" gives a nasty warning that it 
was downloaded from the Internet (oh noes!).

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Re: Updates: General

2020-12-07 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 12/7/2020 4:05 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:


What I do know is that there was never an automatic upgrade
path from < 2.0 to 2.0.   It was always manual.

I think the best way is to backup the profile, and upgrade
SeaMonkey manually from < 2.0 to 2.0, then 2.0 to 2.1..etc
up until 2.24 (while backing up the profile as you go).


The release notes of the various versions should offer some guidance.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 11/20/2020 4:01 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

Speaking of detection - any idea why html5test.com thinks WebP is not 
supported?  It also says No for Firefox, so this is not a SeaMonkey 
issue (it says Yes for Chrome, so it's detecting something differently).


The test for Custom Elements looks for document.registerElement(), which 
is deprecated, and was supposed to be dropped from Chrome in February. 
This may give an idea of the quality of the tests.


Perhaps a new site html5testtest.com is needed?


Thanks for the insight; I have noticed the website hasn't been 
maintained for a while now.  It does still provide some interesting 
info, though.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 11/20/2020 1:22 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Personally I am not impressed by the format. Looks impressive on paper 
only. I doubt anyone other than google needs it in the real world and 
they are now already working on webp2.


I found this nice article a while back:
https://siipo.la/blog/is-webp-really-better-than-jpeg
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

2020-11-19 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 11/19/2020 11:33 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

install 2.52.5.1 and enjoy better/working av1 deteaction 


Speaking of detection - any idea why html5test.com thinks WebP is not 
supported?  It also says No for Firefox, so this is not a SeaMonkey 
issue (it says Yes for Chrome, so it's detecting something differently).


And yes, WebP samples display just fine:
https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5b1 released!

2020-10-29 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 10/29/2020 11:51 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

the latest PDF.js is supposed to 
finally work with PDF email attachments!


The latest PDF.js extension for SeaMonkey?


Yes, linked from the release notes:
https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-seamonkey/releases/

Changes since 2.3.233:
#2 (cannot open PDFs from attachments pane) should be resolved
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5b1 released!

2020-10-29 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 10/28/2020 4:47 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.5 Beta 1.


AV1 and WebP support, nice!  Plus the latest PDF.js is supposed to 
finally work with PDF email attachments!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.4 released!

2020-09-25 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 9/25/2020 8:04 AM, AndrésH wrote:

Your graphics drivers are either blacklisted because of known problems 
or do not support OpenGL 2.0 WebGL2: https://get.webgl.org/webgl2/


AMD has not released new drivers for Windows 10 . AMD refers to the 
windows update to maintain the drivers for windows 10.


The drivers from Windows Update are notorious for excluding OpenGL (and 
probably Vulkan) support.  You really should get them direct, but 
Frank's advice is also good - integrated graphics are generally not good 
for much of anything.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.4 released!

2020-09-25 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 9/25/2020 8:04 AM, AndrésH wrote:

Your graphics drivers are either blacklisted because of known problems 
or do not support OpenGL 2.0 WebGL2: https://get.webgl.org/webgl2/


AMD has not released new drivers for Windows 10 . AMD refers to the 
windows update to maintain the drivers for windows 10.


The drivers from Windows Update are notorious for excluding OpenGL (and 
probably Vulkan) support.  You really should get them direct, but 
Frank's advice is also good - integrated graphics are generally not good 
for much of anything.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.4 released!

2020-09-22 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 9/22/2020 6:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote:


If you are a Fedora 31 or 32 Linux user you got an update.


I was a little surprised when I saw it, since it was prior to the 
announcement.  ;-)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!

2020-08-04 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 8/4/2020 1:27 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I've noticed that Lightning complains about being incompatible when 
trying to go from 2.53.x+1 beta to 2.53.x final.


Downlevel was never supported by SeaMonkey or Gecko so the distributed 
lightning is not picked up. It is now a packed extension which makes 
installing it manually pretty easy. Profiles are more or less compatible 
too with latest versions but might change any time.


Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what's the procedure for 
"removing" the "incompatible" Lightning version and "installing" the 
"compatible" packed version?  I would have expected installing the 
previous version to fully replace the prior / "newer" one, but I'm 
guessing it's got a version string in some configuration file that 
confuses it?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!

2020-08-04 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 8/4/2020 9:05 AM, vij wrote:

A case on pc win7: I try 2.53.3 and it doesn't work on some securised 
site, so I came back to 2.53.2 and Lightning doesn't work at all since...


I've noticed that Lightning complains about being incompatible when 
trying to go from 2.53.x+1 beta to 2.53.x final.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:


Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?


Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject "Missing 
newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to a bug in 
newer versions.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-16 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well


I wasn't seeing posts disappear before, but ironically Ant's reply to 
this one ("Missing newsgroup posts") is getting the "Article not found" 
error in Mail/News for me here.  However, it displays just fine in the 
browser interface:

news://news.mozilla.org:119/7dednrs4hoqmrxtdnz2dnuu7-uxnn...@mozilla.org

So, I'd say this is probably a bug in the Mail/News code.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

2020-02-27 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 2/27/2020 4:58 PM, Ant wrote:


Hmm, the two links in original post don't show up correctly too.


FWIW, you can skip the "pretty face" and go direct:
http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.1/
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.1b1 is Released!

2020-01-21 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 1/21/2020 9:04 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


1) ExchangeCalendar 5.0.0-beta 1
[Exception... "[JavaScript Error: "aUri.pathQueryRef is undefined" 


Maybe you can fix it up by changing back pathQueryRef to path:


Thanks for the hint; if I have issues with TbSync, and/or it looks like 
ExchangeCalendar will have new releases, I'll try that out.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.1b1 is Released!

2020-01-20 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 1/20/2020 2:19 PM, Steve Wendt wrote:

Calendaring stuff (i.e. to work with Exchange) seems to be busted also, 
but some of that could be due to not aligning with a Thunderbird version.


1) ExchangeCalendar 5.0.0-beta 1; says it dropped support for 
Thunderbird 59 and lower, but 4.0.0 wasn't working 
either.(https://github.com/ExchangeCalendar/exchangecalendar)


[Exception... "[JavaScript Error: "aUri.pathQueryRef is undefined" 
{file: 
"file:extensions/exchangecalen...@extensions.1st-setup.nl/calendar/interface/exchangeCalendar/mivExchangeCalendar.js" 
line: 574}]'[JavaScript Error: "aUri.pathQueryRef is undefined" {file: 
"file:extensions/exchangecalen...@extensions.1st-setup.nl/calendar/interface/exchangeCalendar/mivExchangeCalendar.js" 
line: 574}]' when calling method: [mivExchangeCalendar::uri]"  nsresult: 
"0x80570021 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)"  location: "JS 
frame :: resource://calendar/calendar-js/calCalendarManager.js :: 
createCalendar :: line 447"  data: yes]



2) TbSync 1.7.0.2
https://github.com/jobisoft/TbSync

Wasn't working before, but it seems to be now; great!
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.1b1 is Released!

2020-01-20 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 1/20/2020 12:26 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Most add-ons should work fine. Themes probably need an update. Add-ons 
dealing with bookmarks and downloads too.


Calendaring stuff (i.e. to work with Exchange) seems to be busted also, 
but some of that could be due to not aligning with a Thunderbird version.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 released!

2017-07-31 Thread Steve Wendt

On 07/31/2017 08:02 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


The next release will be 2.49.1 which should be up to date with the
latest Fx 52 ESR release.


Thanks guys - looking forward to it!

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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union!

2017-05-03 Thread Steve Wendt

On 5/3/2017 1:21 AM, Iacopo Benesperi wrote:


* I have a mac, so I can help with triaging bugs. I don't think I'll
have time to actively search for bugs to triage


I think this is mainly a question of constructing a good Bugzilla query.
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Re: The State of the SeaMonkey Union! - Get SeaMonkey into Ubuntu and Debian repos

2017-05-03 Thread Steve Wendt

On 5/3/2017 6:06 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:


Of course it would be great to be listed in the repos


FWIW, I'm happy to say that SeaMonkey has been maintained in the Fedora 
repository.  The maintainer accepted my request to enable GStreamer in 
his build, after it had been enabled for Firefox.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 Beta 1 has been released

2017-04-18 Thread Steve Wendt

On 4/18/2017 6:47 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


Doesn't look like it but it took a few hours to do the patch for the
website and I looked forward to do something else during the weekend
(among them to fix a few bugs in the source code). Non-native English
speaker so making sure that not too many typos are in it was a bonus
that took time too :)


Clarity of writing is not always simple; thus far, the results show you 
care about your efforts, so thank you.  :)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 Beta 1 has been released

2017-04-17 Thread Steve Wendt

On 4/17/2017 1:07 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


There are now constant changes in the Gecko engine


Fair enough.  :-/


And every release breaks more and more add-ons because of removals in
Gecko and JS deprecation and so on.


I remember when it was a "big deal" to break the API and go from Gecko 
1.x to 2.0.  Now it's every few weeks.



With the imminent removal of aurora this won't get any better.


Was news to me; found this:
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/04/16/firefox-aurora-end/


The only entity believing that the code became more stable in recent
releases is Mozilla corp. For SeaMonkey and the other comm-central
apps it just means that the junk is pushed faster down imho :)


The "nothing matters but Firefox" attitude is certainly detrimental to 
the rest of the community, but that slippery slope was well greased long 
ago.



You and I can probably deal with any fallout but I have seen enough
bug reports from people without a backup so I put this in as a
general warning. If you want to go back backup before upgrading.


In this case, one small suggestion - at first glance, it looks like it's 
the same data loss warning that has been there forever (I just noticed 
the version bump, and assumed it was accidental).  Perhaps more words to 
the effect of this post (constant changes in Core break all our $#!+) 
would help make it clear the warning is constantly relevant?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 Beta 1 has been released

2017-04-17 Thread Steve Wendt

On 4/17/2017 9:45 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


check the release notes for known problems.


Thanks for updating those; it led me to bug 1305624:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1305624

And a workaround for fixing the password manager being painfully slow to 
populate since 2.46 (remove webappsstore.sqlite).  FWIW, mine was ~33MB.


A question about the "data loss warning" there: I think the SeaMonkey 
version number there has been getting updated, when it should not be? 
The 2.40 release notes refer to version 2.0, the 2.46 release notes to 
version 2.40, and the 2.48 release notes to version 2.46.  I don't think 
there were such drastic changes that should have caused it to no longer 
say version 2.0 there?



A regular 2.48 will follow (hopefully) soon. Afterwards we will switch
to 2.49 ESR as fast as we can to be on par with Firefox ESR 52.


Thanks for the ongoing efforts!
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Re: SM 2.46 and PDF file (Linux x86-64)

2016-12-27 Thread Steve Wendt

On 12/27/2016 11:47 AM, Steve Wendt wrote:


I tried PDF viewer, found it fine and straightforward, but I was
disappointed to see I cannot open an email attachment with it ?


If you find/file a bug for it in Bugzilla, please post a link back here;
it annoys me too.  :-/


Found it:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977822

Based on the comments in linked bug 810815, it sounds like it needs some 
hacks to pass it to pdf.js, or pdf.js needs to handle additional 
protocols (primarily imap).


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Re: SM 2.46 and PDF file (Linux x86-64)

2016-12-27 Thread Steve Wendt

On 12/26/2016 9:29 AM, cyberzen wrote:


I tried PDF viewer, found it fine and straightforward, but I was
disappointed to see I cannot open an email attachment with it ?


If you find/file a bug for it in Bugzilla, please post a link back here; 
it annoys me too.  :-/


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

2016-12-23 Thread Steve Wendt

On 12/23/2016 3:37 PM, NoOp wrote:


Why is it necessary to reboot the computer when the Windows version is
installed?


Just a guess, but I think that usually means you have some file locked 
that needs to be replaced (problem does not exist on Linux).


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Re: 2.46

2016-12-22 Thread Steve Wendt

On 12/22/2016 7:44 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


Is there a method by which an end-user can determine if a PC has a CPU
that is SSE enabled?


cat /proc/cpuinfo

If you aren't fortunate enough to be on an OS where that works, Windows 
has msinfo32 and wmic, although you'll have to compare the processor 
info those give you by looking up the specs online.

https://www.windows-commandline.com/get-cpu-processor-information-command/

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released

2012-10-15 Thread Steve Wendt

On 10/14/12 12:20 pm, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


The FTP server gets pretty slow when there is a new release. If you use
the standard HTTP downloads, you get the benefits of the distributed
mirrors, so it's pretty quick.


If you'll post a link, I'll test that as well.


Not sure what you are asking about; this?
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released

2012-10-14 Thread Steve Wendt

On 10/14/12 12:15 am, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


So I don't think the SM servers are the issue for you. I can't have
received it quickly if they are running slowly.


The FTP server gets pretty slow when there is a new release.  If you use 
the standard HTTP downloads, you get the benefits of the distributed 
mirrors, so it's pretty quick.  The primary reason I go to the FTP 
server is to see *all* the releases, including betas; a lot of stuff 
gets hidden on the HTTP side (reasonably so).

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Re: Wiki Page listing Extension Compatibility

2011-06-20 Thread Steve Wendt

On 06/20/11 10:14 am, Jens Hatlak wrote:


https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/2.1/AddonCompat


Its purpose is to:
* tell the average user which add-ons are compatible and where to get
them from if they cannot find them on AMO
* tell experienced users which add-ons actually work despite claiming
compatibility
* tell contributors what the state of specific add-ons is so that they
can better coordinate their efforts (contact the author, provide
modified version etc.)


Fair enough; I guess that leaves me only wondering why there is a need 
for the AMO section, unless it is just a place to see that something 
hasn't been forgotten from the list.

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Re: Wiki Page listing Extension Compatibility

2011-06-19 Thread Steve Wendt

On 06/19/11 01:20 pm, Jens Hatlak wrote:


https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/2.1/AddonCompat

As you can see, it's not pretty and has low usability.
(that's what AMO is for!)


Right - so what's this wiki page for, exactly?
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Re: Wiki Page listing Extension Compatibility

2011-06-19 Thread Steve Wendt

On 06/19/11 04:50 pm, David E. Ross wrote:


Preserve Download Modification Timestamp
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/preserve-download-modification  is
compatible with SeaMonkey 2.1.


That extension is compatible only if you tweak the maxVersion in file
install.rdf.


???  Works with: SeaMonkey 2.0 - 2.4a1
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Re: When will SeaMonkey use Firefox v3.6.2's Gecko version?

2010-04-06 Thread Steve Wendt

On 04/06/10 11:50 am, Robert Kaiser wrote:


Does SM have a map of its versions? I remember it (and original Mozilla
suite) used to, but I couldn't find it a few months ago.

The release dates graph.


No. We have no firm dates planned for anything, not even a good idea how
many alphas and betas we'll do for 2.1, so also no graph.


If historical data is what he was after, this is available:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/releases/history.html
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Re: Disable specific Seamonkey components

2010-03-05 Thread Steve Wendt

On 03/05/10 04:02 am, Philip Chee wrote:


Chatzilla is a separate extension so you should be able to package
SeaMonkey without Chatzilla or disable it by default. The Composer UI
might be a build time configuration setting.


The enhancement bug just turned 10 years old, actually:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29838
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Re: Threading don't work for one mail address

2009-12-15 Thread Steve Wendt

On 12/15/09 02:47 am, Martin Freitag wrote:


As I don't have TB, so that's not possible for me to do. But that editor
could be useful also in SM.


Maybe time to file an enhancement bug if it doesn't already exist? ;-)


It's the same as about:config
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Re: Restore the old Form Manager!

2009-11-18 Thread Steve Wendt

On 11/18/09 10:50 am, Philip Chee wrote:


1. The form autofill functionality that fills forms up on a page.
The first is more problematic since the code lives somewhere in toolkit
and is written mostly in C++.


I filed an enhancement bug for what I think is the common case:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525612


2. The Form History Editor used to edit/delete/correct mistakes.
The second is possibly solvable (with some restrictions) since it's just
front end UI code. We could even crib off the Form History extension there.


That was the suggestion here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525791


The main caveat is that the toolkit form history implementation has no
concept of a form (!!). In the old XPFE form filler for each unique
webpage the component stored the URL and the fieldname/value pairs
together. In the toolkit implementation only fieldname/value pairs are
stored and these could be used for any webpage that contains those fields.


I seem to recall that generic fields like street address just worked 
on different URLs in the XPFE implementation (?).



I think an interim workaround is to port the Firefox Form Autofill
extension which (I think) uses it's own storage format and allows
autofilling whole forms as well as it's own editor to access stored
forms data.


Auto-fill of whole forms sounds interesting, but that's not the most 
common case - usually, you just want to fill in common fields, like 
street address, email address, etc.

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Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Wendt

On 10/28/09 10:26 am, Phillip Jones wrote:


Java-script. Must not be too dangerous Adobe acrobat uses it
extensively.


Acrobat also has a lot of security exploits (!).


But related not to Java-script.


A quick Google search suggests otherwise:
http://www.404techsupport.com/2009/02/20/prevent-the-latest-exploit-in-adobe-acrobat-disable-javascript/
http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/vulninfo/vuln.aspx?id=36838
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Wendt

On 10/28/09 06:21 am, Jay Garcia wrote:


Click in the user name field, then click in it again. It should give
you a drop-down list of saved items.


I think what Ed is talking about is that there is only ONE
login/password for each site, not a list of logins/passwords that cover
a couple of dozen sites all in one drop down presented at each site.


No, I think it does what Ed wants - lists all the logins for the current 
site.  If you want a complete list, the password manager works the same 
as it always has.



Netscape/Flock Champion


Isn't Netscape dead?  Looks like it is just a AOL Yahoo-style portal, now.
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-30 Thread Steve Wendt

On 7/30/2009 2:59 PM, Felix Miata wrote:


I also seem to have found a solution for the original issue regarding FF: put
'user_pref(browser.places.importBookmarksHTML, true);' in user.js (which I
found in bug 385077).


Useful info is in comment 70:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385077#c70
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Re: bookmarks sharing post-places

2009-07-09 Thread Steve Wendt

On 07/09/09 11:52 am, Felix Miata wrote:


Has anyone found a practical way to do this, preferably without running any
involved Gecko application?

Is there any convenient and practical way to share bookmarks without
destroying history?


I imagine it shouldn't be too hard for someone with the time and 
inclination to copy the code that imports the bookmarks into a smaller 
app, that just zaps the existing bookmarks first.

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