Master Password in new SeaMonkey 2.53.1

2020-03-25 Thread d . e . r . b
When launching new SeaMonkey 2.53.1 I will be prompted two times to enter the 
master password for the security device. This was not the case in the previous 
version. Moreover, I am only using one security the device, the software 
devicie. For the Generic Crypto Services I have not set a password.

Any explanation and how could I overcome this since in the long term it is 
laboriously, tedious and cumbersome to enter every launch of Seamonkey two 
times the same pw?

Thanks
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Re: Master Password in new SeaMonkey 2.53.1

2020-03-29 Thread d . e . r . b
Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020 18:07:08 UTC+2 schrieb Frank-Rainer Grahl:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> >> d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> >>> When launching new SeaMonkey 2.53.1 I will be prompted two times to enter 
> >>> the master password for the security device. This was not the case in the 
> >>> previous version. Moreover, I am only using one security the device, the 
> >>> software devicie. For the Generic Crypto Services I have not set a 
> >>> password.
> >>>
> >>> Any explanation and how could I overcome this since in the long term it 
> >>> is 
> >>> laboriously, tedious and cumbersome to enter every launch of Seamonkey 
> >>> two 
> >>> times the same pw?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>
> >> Is the old key3.db and cart8.db still in the profile folder?
> > 
> > On my 2.53.1 system, they is (assuming you mean cErt8.db), along with the 
> > old 
> > key4.db and the new cert9.db. Can't speak for the OP.
> > 
> 
> New pair is key4.db and cert9.db. Please remove the old key3.db and cert8.db.
> 
> FRG

The old files are not in the profile folder.

But unfortunately, I did not remove the master password before upgrading to 
SeaMonkey 2.53.1

Should I do an uninstallation and a new one?

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Re: Master Password in new SeaMonkey 2.53.1

2020-03-30 Thread d . e . r . b
Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020 22:20:43 UTC+2 schrieb mozilla-li...@spamgourmet.com:
> d.e.r.b wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020 18:07:08 UTC+2 schrieb Frank-Rainer Grahl:
> >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> >>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>  d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > When launching new SeaMonkey 2.53.1 I will be prompted two times to 
> > enter
> > the master password for the security device. This was not the case in 
> > the
> > previous version. Moreover, I am only using one security the device, the
> > software devicie. For the Generic Crypto Services I have not set a 
> > password.
> >
> > Any explanation and how could I overcome this since in the long term it 
> > is
> > laboriously, tedious and cumbersome to enter every launch of Seamonkey 
> > two
> > times the same pw?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> 
>  Is the old key3.db and cart8.db still in the profile folder?
> >>>
> >>> On my 2.53.1 system, they is (assuming you mean cErt8.db), along with the 
> >>> old
> >>> key4.db and the new cert9.db. Can't speak for the OP.
> >>>
> >>
> >> New pair is key4.db and cert9.db. Please remove the old key3.db and 
> >> cert8.db.
> >>
> >> FRG
> > 
> > The old files are not in the profile folder.
> > 
> > But unfortunately, I did not remove the master password before upgrading to 
> > SeaMonkey 2.53.1
> > 
> > Should I do an uninstallation and a new one?
> 
> Although not the recommended procedure, I've found that the passwords 
> are converted to the new format even with a master password set PROVIDED 
> you enter the master password when prompted the first time you start 
> 2.53.1.  If for any reason (distraction, crash, power outage, etc.) you 
> don't enter the password during that first run, the old password 
> database key is deleted without being converted to the new format - so 
> it's safer to remove the master password before upgrading, and reinstate 
> it afterwards.
> 
> Check whether your passwords are still shown at Tools > Data Manager. 
> If they are, you're probably OK even if you didn't remove the master 
> password before updating as recommended.  If not, the old passwords key 
> will have already been deleted from your profile even though it wasn't 
> converted, so the older version won't be able to read your passwords 
> anyway.  You'd need to restore your profile from a backup, as well as 
> ideally going back to the previous version to remove the master password 
> before updating again.
> 
> I've also found that the old key3.db is sometimes automatically deleted 
> after that initial conversion (leaving only the new key4.db), but the 
> old cert8.db is not deleted (leaving both cert8.db and the new 
> cert9.db).  So it might only be necessary to delete cert8.db (DO NOT 
> delete key4.db - that's the key for your password database).
>  
> -- 
> Mark.

I have made the same experience with the migration of passwords regarding the 
password database files. And fortunately I have access to my passwords.

My question and issues is that when launching Seamonkey I am requested two 
times to enter the password, i.e. the window to enter the password pops up two 
times.
Even although I have deleted cert8.db and key3.db.

Reinhard
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Re: Master Password in new SeaMonkey 2.53.1

2020-03-31 Thread d . e . r . b
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2020 10:48:07 UTC+2 schrieb Frank-Rainer Grahl:
> d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020 22:20:43 UTC+2 schrieb 
> > mozilla-li...@spamgourmet.com:
> >> d.e.r.b wrote:
> >>> Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020 18:07:08 UTC+2 schrieb Frank-Rainer Grahl:
>  Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> >> d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> >>> When launching new SeaMonkey 2.53.1 I will be prompted two times to 
> >>> enter
> >>> the master password for the security device. This was not the case in 
> >>> the
> >>> previous version. Moreover, I am only using one security the device, 
> >>> the
> >>> software devicie. For the Generic Crypto Services I have not set a 
> >>> password.
> >>>
> >>> Any explanation and how could I overcome this since in the long term 
> >>> it is
> >>> laboriously, tedious and cumbersome to enter every launch of 
> >>> Seamonkey two
> >>> times the same pw?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>
> >> Is the old key3.db and cart8.db still in the profile folder?
> >
> > On my 2.53.1 system, they is (assuming you mean cErt8.db), along with 
> > the old
> > key4.db and the new cert9.db. Can't speak for the OP.
> >
> 
>  New pair is key4.db and cert9.db. Please remove the old key3.db and 
>  cert8.db.
> 
>  FRG
> >>>
> >>> The old files are not in the profile folder.
> >>>
> >>> But unfortunately, I did not remove the master password before upgrading 
> >>> to SeaMonkey 2.53.1
> >>>
> >>> Should I do an uninstallation and a new one?
> >>
> >> Although not the recommended procedure, I've found that the passwords
> >> are converted to the new format even with a master password set PROVIDED
> >> you enter the master password when prompted the first time you start
> >> 2.53.1.  If for any reason (distraction, crash, power outage, etc.) you
> >> don't enter the password during that first run, the old password
> >> database key is deleted without being converted to the new format - so
> >> it's safer to remove the master password before upgrading, and reinstate
> >> it afterwards.
> >>
> >> Check whether your passwords are still shown at Tools > Data Manager.
> >> If they are, you're probably OK even if you didn't remove the master
> >> password before updating as recommended.  If not, the old passwords key
> >> will have already been deleted from your profile even though it wasn't
> >> converted, so the older version won't be able to read your passwords
> >> anyway.  You'd need to restore your profile from a backup, as well as
> >> ideally going back to the previous version to remove the master password
> >> before updating again.
> >>
> >> I've also found that the old key3.db is sometimes automatically deleted
> >> after that initial conversion (leaving only the new key4.db), but the
> >> old cert8.db is not deleted (leaving both cert8.db and the new
> >> cert9.db).  So it might only be necessary to delete cert8.db (DO NOT
> >> delete key4.db - that's the key for your password database).
> >>   
> >> -- 
> >> Mark.
> > 
> > I have made the same experience with the migration of passwords regarding 
> > the password database files. And fortunately I have access to my passwords.
> > 
> > My question and issues is that when launching Seamonkey I am requested two 
> > times to enter the password, i.e. the window to enter the password pops up 
> > two times.
> > Even although I have deleted cert8.db and key3.db.
> > 
> > Reinhard
> > 
> 
> Did you read my previous reply? It might be caused by "Check messages at 
> startup". Old error.
> 
> FRG

It does not overcome the issue when disabling "Checking messages at startup". 
Moreover, it was not a problem in all the previous versions.

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Re: Master Password in new SeaMonkey 2.53.1

2020-04-03 Thread d . e . r . b
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2020 12:56:58 UTC+2 schrieb d@mail.pcom.de:
> Am Dienstag, 31. März 2020 10:48:07 UTC+2 schrieb Frank-Rainer Grahl:
> > d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > > Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020 22:20:43 UTC+2 schrieb 
> > > mozilla-li...@spamgourmet.com:
> > >> d.e.r.b wrote:
> > >>> Am Sonntag, 29. März 2020 18:07:08 UTC+2 schrieb Frank-Rainer Grahl:
> >  Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> > >> d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > >>> When launching new SeaMonkey 2.53.1 I will be prompted two times to 
> > >>> enter
> > >>> the master password for the security device. This was not the case 
> > >>> in the
> > >>> previous version. Moreover, I am only using one security the 
> > >>> device, the
> > >>> software devicie. For the Generic Crypto Services I have not set a 
> > >>> password.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any explanation and how could I overcome this since in the long 
> > >>> term it is
> > >>> laboriously, tedious and cumbersome to enter every launch of 
> > >>> Seamonkey two
> > >>> times the same pw?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Is the old key3.db and cart8.db still in the profile folder?
> > >
> > > On my 2.53.1 system, they is (assuming you mean cErt8.db), along with 
> > > the old
> > > key4.db and the new cert9.db. Can't speak for the OP.
> > >
> > 
> >  New pair is key4.db and cert9.db. Please remove the old key3.db and 
> >  cert8.db.
> > 
> >  FRG
> > >>>
> > >>> The old files are not in the profile folder.
> > >>>
> > >>> But unfortunately, I did not remove the master password before 
> > >>> upgrading to SeaMonkey 2.53.1
> > >>>
> > >>> Should I do an uninstallation and a new one?
> > >>
> > >> Although not the recommended procedure, I've found that the passwords
> > >> are converted to the new format even with a master password set PROVIDED
> > >> you enter the master password when prompted the first time you start
> > >> 2.53.1.  If for any reason (distraction, crash, power outage, etc.) you
> > >> don't enter the password during that first run, the old password
> > >> database key is deleted without being converted to the new format - so
> > >> it's safer to remove the master password before upgrading, and reinstate
> > >> it afterwards.
> > >>
> > >> Check whether your passwords are still shown at Tools > Data Manager.
> > >> If they are, you're probably OK even if you didn't remove the master
> > >> password before updating as recommended.  If not, the old passwords key
> > >> will have already been deleted from your profile even though it wasn't
> > >> converted, so the older version won't be able to read your passwords
> > >> anyway.  You'd need to restore your profile from a backup, as well as
> > >> ideally going back to the previous version to remove the master password
> > >> before updating again.
> > >>
> > >> I've also found that the old key3.db is sometimes automatically deleted
> > >> after that initial conversion (leaving only the new key4.db), but the
> > >> old cert8.db is not deleted (leaving both cert8.db and the new
> > >> cert9.db).  So it might only be necessary to delete cert8.db (DO NOT
> > >> delete key4.db - that's the key for your password database).
> > >>   
> > >> -- 
> > >> Mark.
> > > 
> > > I have made the same experience with the migration of passwords regarding 
> > > the password database files. And fortunately I have access to my 
> > > passwords.
> > > 
> > > My question and issues is that when launching Seamonkey I am requested 
> > > two times to enter the password, i.e. the window to enter the password 
> > > pops up two times.
> > > Even although I have deleted cert8.db and key3.db.
> > > 
> > > Reinhard
> > > 
> > 
> > Did you read my previous reply? It might be caused by "Check messages at 
> > startup". Old error.
> > 
> > FRG
> 
> It does not overcome the issue when disabling "Checking messages at startup". 
> Moreover, it was not a problem in all the previous versions.
> 
> RB

I uninstalled v. 2.53.1, replaced the profile from a backup with v. 2.49.5, 
installed v. 2.49.5, set master pw empty, upgraded to v. 2.53.1, so I did it 
the described right way. But even this did not resolve the problem of two 
prompts for the pw.
What I observed is that I have to enter the pw only the first time and press on 
the second prompt just enter without filling in a pw.
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Re: Master Password in new SeaMonkey 2.53.1

2020-04-04 Thread d . e . r . b
Am Freitag, 3. April 2020 21:38:07 UTC+2 schrieb mozilla-li...@spamgourmet.com:
> d.e.r.b wrote:
> > I uninstalled v. 2.53.1, replaced the profile from a backup with v. 2.49.5, 
> > installed v. 2.49.5, set master pw empty, upgraded to v. 2.53.1, so I did 
> > it the described right way. But even this did not resolve the problem of 
> > two prompts for the pw.
> > What I observed is that I have to enter the pw only the first time and 
> > press on the second prompt just enter without filling in a pw.
> 
> Have you tried restarting SeaMonkey with addons disabled (aka "safe 
> mode")?  Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled (or on Windows, I think 
> there's usually a "SeaMonkey (Safe Mode)" entry on the start menu. 
> There's no need to make any of the changes permanent yet.
> 
> I don't know if it's possible, but maybe some extension is triggering a 
> second password prompt before you've had a chance to respond to the 
> first one.  But once you've responded to the first one, the database is 
> unlocked so it doesn't actually matter whether you enter the password 
> the second time.
> 
> -- 
> Mark.

Thanks for the suggestion. But unfortunately it makes it worse. In add-ins 
disabled mode I have to enter the pw definitively two times. When I pres just 
ok the second time it prompts again for the pw and does not open seamonkey 
before I enter the pw again.
Since it works fine before 2.53.1 it seems to be a bug.

Reinhard
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Re: Master Password in new SeaMonkey 2.53.1

2020-04-06 Thread d . e . r . b
Am Samstag, 4. April 2020 12:20:37 UTC+2 schrieb Frank-Rainer Grahl:
> d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 3. April 2020 21:38:07 UTC+2 schrieb 
> > mozilla-li...@spamgourmet.com:
> >> d.e.r.b wrote:
> >>> I uninstalled v. 2.53.1, replaced the profile from a backup with v. 
> >>> 2.49.5, installed v. 2.49.5, set master pw empty, upgraded to v. 2.53.1, 
> >>> so I did it the described right way. But even this did not resolve the 
> >>> problem of two prompts for the pw.
> >>> What I observed is that I have to enter the pw only the first time and 
> >>> press on the second prompt just enter without filling in a pw.
> >>
> >> Have you tried restarting SeaMonkey with addons disabled (aka "safe
> >> mode")?  Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled (or on Windows, I think
> >> there's usually a "SeaMonkey (Safe Mode)" entry on the start menu.
> >> There's no need to make any of the changes permanent yet.
> >>
> >> I don't know if it's possible, but maybe some extension is triggering a
> >> second password prompt before you've had a chance to respond to the
> >> first one.  But once you've responded to the first one, the database is
> >> unlocked so it doesn't actually matter whether you enter the password
> >> the second time.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Mark.
> > 
> > Thanks for the suggestion. But unfortunately it makes it worse. In add-ins 
> > disabled mode I have to enter the pw definitively two times. When I pres 
> > just ok the second time it prompts again for the pw and does not open 
> > seamonkey before I enter the pw again.
> > Since it works fine before 2.53.1 it seems to be a bug.
> > 
> > Reinhard
> > 
> 
> Are you using CALDAV?
> 
> FRG

No, I don't. Even I don't know it.

But a search showed there is in the Thunderbird-profile and old file from 2018 
named calDavCalendar.js.

RB
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How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

2020-04-08 Thread d . e . r . b
In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB
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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

2020-04-11 Thread d . e . r . b
Am Mittwoch, 8. April 2020 16:20:02 UTC+2 schrieb Lemuel Johnson:
> On 4/8/2020 6:55 AM, d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set 
> > Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when 
> > opening the default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not 
> > available anymore.
> > 
> > Is there any workaround?
> > 
> > RB
> > 
> 
> On my Windows 10 system Seamonkey is listed as an option for default 
> mail app, along with Mail, Windows Live Mail, Google Chrome(??) and 
> "Look for an app in the Microsoft Store".  No workaround needed.
> 
> Lem Johnson

I have solved the problem.
You have to make in Preferences under Mail@Newsgroups SM the default 
application for Mail.
The same for the browser.
Then it will be avaible in the Windows App settings.

RB
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