Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-25 Thread Daniel

Michael Lueck wrote:

Daniel wrote:

So does your SM lose sub-folders just after you've done a Compact??
The next day?? Day three after the compaction?? Or is it always day
six or seven before you start losing sub-folders?


The only logical connection I can come up with is related to message
filtering. And I have MANY filter rules, all to move xyz message type to
abc folder.

I can loose folders the first new message that comes in after a compact.
I see no connection between duration from last compact and the folder bug.

Sincerely,



O.K., well, that's me done then, sorry!

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Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-24 Thread Michael Lueck

Daniel wrote:

So does your SM lose sub-folders just after you've done a Compact?? The next day?? Day 
three after the compaction?? Or is it always day six or seven before you start losing 
sub-folders?


The only logical connection I can come up with is related to message filtering. 
And I have MANY filter rules, all to move xyz message type to abc folder.

I can loose folders the first new message that comes in after a compact. I see 
no connection between duration from last compact and the folder bug.

Sincerely,

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Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-23 Thread Daniel

Michael Lueck wrote:

Daniel wrote:

reading the Bugzilla report you quoted, in the first entry the poster
said he had 7.6GB Inbox (including all his sub-inboxes). 7.6GB...what
the heck for??


I am not such a pack rat. My entire SM profile is running around 2GB.

The two main accounts I use, have MANY folders under - thus that are
seeing this problem - have an InBox size of 27.2 MB and 66 MB. (That is
just the inbox size)

In total I have around 1500 folders, most heavily / deeply nested.


I'd still ask what the heck for??, but I suppose it's your right!!




I wonder if SM is having troubles indexing the sub-folders and
indexing the sub-sub-folders, and is not so much losing their
children but rather taking it's time re-indexing them.


I switched off automatic compact back during use of TB.


Why??



It seems to me to be related to my use of filters to move messages to
the correct folder. The folders will be fine, a message comes in, and
suddenly when I expand out a folder at InBox level to see the new
message (several folders deep), then sometimes the destination folder is
not visible (along with many other folders loosing their children). I
then open a new instance of SM Mail, close the old one, and read my
message I received.


When you create the new instance of SM Mail, I'm guessing this new 
instance creates a new set of index files (the .msf files) which are 
clean, sort of like what would result if you used File-Compact Folders 
more often.Does your machine often stall just after you've done 
one of your weekly profile clean ups and back-ups??




I collapse folder trees at the folder just under the InBox. Both TB and
SM are able to remember which subfolders I wanted open/closed within
each subtree, thus I use that to my advantage and leave critical path
sub,sub-sub,sub-sub-sub branches always open and simply collapse the
folder directly off the InBox. When I want to reopen that subtree, I
click the folder just off the InBox, and to my annoyance SM FREQUENTLY
is unable to correctly display the entire subtree correctly.


Additionally, I wonder how often you File-Compact Folder on each of
your mail accounts, sub-accounts, sub-sub...


Weekly, when I do my SM profile backups I do:

1) Delete all Junk mail
2) File \ Empty Trash
3) File \ Compact Folders

on each account's InBox folder. I see the compact operation enumerate
correctly through each accounts folder tree structure via the status bar.

Sincerely,




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Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Lueck

Daniel wrote:

Michael Lueck wrote:

In total I have around 1500 folders, most heavily / deeply nested.


I'd still ask what the heck for??


Because I like to be organized.


I wonder if SM is having troubles indexing the sub-folders and
indexing the sub-sub-folders, and is not so much losing their
children but rather taking it's time re-indexing them.


I switched off automatic compact back during use of TB.


Why??


I heard that was a good way to get corrupted .msf index files for one thing.


When you create the new instance of SM Mail, I'm guessing this new instance creates a new 
set of index files (the .msf files) which are clean


Rebuilding .msf files takes quite a while.

Double clicking any folder opens a second instance of Mail INSTANTLY. It could 
not possibly rebuild 1500 .msf files INSTANTLY.

Perhaps since I leave folders \ subtrees open way down the tree and close the 
tree at the top level folder, when SM moves a message into that folder the UI 
gets confused.

Worked just fine on TB 2.0.x. Never had this trouble. It is unique to the SM 
code base.


File-Compact Folders more often.Does your machine often stall just 
after you've done one of your weekly profile clean ups and back-ups??


Stall after clean/compact!?!? It always runs snappy and great. I have no idea 
what you might be referring to.

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Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-23 Thread Daniel

Michael Lueck wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Michael Lueck wrote:


Snip


File-Compact Folders more often.Does your machine often stall
just after you've done one of your weekly profile clean ups and
back-ups??


Stall after clean/compact!?!? It always runs snappy and great. I have no
idea what you might be referring to.

Sincerely,



So does your SM lose sub-folders just after you've done a Compact?? 
The next day?? Day three after the compaction?? Or is it always day six 
or seven before you start losing sub-folders?


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Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-22 Thread Daniel

Michael Lueck wrote:

Greetings,

Right along since switching to SM from TB 2.0.x, I have been reporting
that POP account mail folders loose their children randomly. I think I
found a bug documenting others seeing the same thing here:

[Bug 593519] Unable to expand a folder's subfolders without opening the
folder first in a new email window
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593519

Am I the only one that has this happening? Or does it not bother others?

I would like to get it resolved. I am holding up migrating other users
from TB 2.0.x pending a resolution to this one bug.

Currently I am running the official Linux x64 builds. It was happening
right along with the official Linux x86 builds as well.

How could I help get some action on this bug? Thanks!

Sincerely,



Michael, reading the Bugzilla report you quoted, in the first entry the 
poster said he had 7.6GB Inbox (including all his sub-inboxes). 
7.6GB...what the heck for??


I wonder if SM is having troubles indexing the sub-folders and indexing 
the sub-sub-folders, and is not so much losing their children but 
rather taking it's time re-indexing them.


Additionally, I wonder how often you File-Compact Folder on each of 
your mail accounts, sub-accounts, sub-sub...


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Re: Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-22 Thread Michael Lueck

Daniel wrote:

reading the Bugzilla report you quoted, in the first entry the poster said he 
had 7.6GB Inbox (including all his sub-inboxes). 7.6GB...what the heck for??


I am not such a pack rat. My entire SM profile is running around 2GB.

The two main accounts I use, have MANY folders under - thus that are seeing 
this problem - have an InBox size of 27.2 MB and 66 MB. (That is just the inbox 
size)

In total I have around 1500 folders, most heavily / deeply nested.


I wonder if SM is having troubles indexing the sub-folders and indexing the sub-sub-folders, and is 
not so much losing their children but rather taking it's time re-indexing 
them.


I switched off automatic compact back during use of TB.

It seems to me to be related to my use of filters to move messages to the correct folder. The folders will be fine, a message comes in, and suddenly when I expand out a folder at InBox level to see 
the new message (several folders deep), then sometimes the destination folder is not visible (along with many other folders loosing their children). I then open a new instance of SM Mail, close the 
old one, and read my message I received.


I collapse folder trees at the folder just under the InBox. Both TB and SM are able to remember which subfolders I wanted open/closed within each subtree, thus I use that to my advantage and leave 
critical path sub,sub-sub,sub-sub-sub branches always open and simply collapse the folder directly off the InBox. When I want to reopen that subtree, I click the folder just off the InBox, and to my 
annoyance SM FREQUENTLY is unable to correctly display the entire subtree correctly.



Additionally, I wonder how often you File-Compact Folder on each of your 
mail accounts, sub-accounts, sub-sub...


Weekly, when I do my SM profile backups I do:

1) Delete all Junk mail
2) File \ Empty Trash
3) File \ Compact Folders

on each account's InBox folder. I see the compact operation enumerate correctly 
through each accounts folder tree structure via the status bar.

Sincerely,

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Anyone else see SeaMonkey mail folders loose their children folders?

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Lueck

Greetings,

Right along since switching to SM from TB 2.0.x, I have been reporting that POP account 
mail folders loose their children randomly. I think I found a bug documenting 
others seeing the same thing here:

[Bug 593519] Unable to expand a folder's subfolders without opening the folder 
first in a new email window
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593519

Am I the only one that has this happening? Or does it not bother others?

I would like to get it resolved. I am holding up migrating other users from TB 
2.0.x pending a resolution to this one bug.

Currently I am running the official Linux x64 builds. It was happening right 
along with the official Linux x86 builds as well.

How could I help get some action on this bug? Thanks!

Sincerely,

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Lueck Data Systems
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