Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
WLS wrote: On 07/16/2012 11:30 AM, Daniel wrote: WLS wrote: Daniel wrote: Ant wrote: On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and find out what is using up the memory! Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in 2.0.14) If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames which use memory) Verbose results: Main Process What does "inner-window(id=" followed by what looks like a website address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open?? If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's SM is using so much memory!! I have 16 "inner-windows" listed in about memory, and only about:memory loaded, but looking at the other URL's in his "Verbose Results" they probably are tabs. The 11 http://nerdapproved.com pages all appear to be the same content. I didn't open them all, just random samples Stopped counting at 12 YouTube pages. My memory usage is, Explicit Allocations 227.05 MB (100.0%) ++ -- explicit I thought approx 600 tabs was getting a bit strange, My memory usage (for three tabs + about:memory tab) 191.86 MB (100.0%) -- explicit Interesting.as I said I have three tabs + about:memory tab open, but nowhere in the structure do I see the listings for the three active tabs I do have open...but I do see information for a tab (i.e. web address!!) which I closed a while ago, even after re-loading the about:memory tab!! So no listing of open, active tabs but listing for previously closed tab!! I understandNot!. Did you try the Minimize memory usage, and Update buttons at the bottom of about:memory. 193MB for three tabs + about:memory tab and no mention of previously closed tabs, today. After Update, 194.71MB After Minimise Memory Usage, 187.30MB. So the Update cost me almost 2MB but the minimise save me about 6-7MB!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
On 07/16/2012 11:30 AM, Daniel wrote: > WLS wrote: >> Daniel wrote: >>> Ant wrote: On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: > Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and > find out what is using up the memory! > > Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. > Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be > related > to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features > that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in > 2.0.14) > > If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you > can > identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: > if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows > hostnames > which use memory) Verbose results: Main Process >>> >>> >>> >>> What does "inner-window(id=" followed by what looks like a website >>> address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open?? >>> >>> If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm >>> guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's >>> SM is using so much memory!! >>> >> >> I have 16 "inner-windows" listed in about memory, and only about:memory >> loaded, but looking at the other URL's in his "Verbose Results" they >> probably are tabs. >> >> The 11 http://nerdapproved.com pages all appear to be the same content. >> I didn't open them all, just random samples >> >> Stopped counting at 12 YouTube pages. >> >> My memory usage is, >> >> Explicit Allocations >> 227.05 MB (100.0%) ++ -- explicit >> > > I thought approx 600 tabs was getting a bit strange, > > My memory usage (for three tabs + about:memory tab) 191.86 MB (100.0%) > -- explicit > > Interesting.as I said I have three tabs + about:memory tab open, but > nowhere in the structure do I see the listings for the three active tabs > I do have open...but I do see information for a tab (i.e. web > address!!) which I closed a while ago, even after re-loading the > about:memory tab!! > > So no listing of open, active tabs but listing for previously closed > tab!! I understandNot!. > Did you try the Minimize memory usage, and Update buttons at the bottom of about:memory. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
On 07/15/2012 02:55 PM, Ant wrote: > On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: > >> Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and >> find out what is using up the memory! >> >> Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. >> Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related >> to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features >> that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in >> 2.0.14) >> >> If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can >> identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: >> if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames >> which use memory) > > Verbose results: > > Main Process > > Explicit Allocations > 1,191,068,833 B (100.0%) ++ -- explicit > I closed a bunch to avoid the sensitive ones and memory usages went down > a bit. Must be too many tabs/web pages I guess? ;) Looks like it! At the very bottom of about:memory there are several buttons, Update GC, CC, and Minimize memory usage. Click on the Minimize memory usage button, and Update, that will clean up your memory a bit. If I understand correctly the Minimize memory usage button, does the same thing as a GC followed by a CC, 3 times. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
WLS wrote: Daniel wrote: Ant wrote: On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and find out what is using up the memory! Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in 2.0.14) If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames which use memory) Verbose results: Main Process What does "inner-window(id=" followed by what looks like a website address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open?? If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's SM is using so much memory!! I have 16 "inner-windows" listed in about memory, and only about:memory loaded, but looking at the other URL's in his "Verbose Results" they probably are tabs. The 11 http://nerdapproved.com pages all appear to be the same content. I didn't open them all, just random samples Stopped counting at 12 YouTube pages. My memory usage is, Explicit Allocations 227.05 MB (100.0%) ++ -- explicit I thought approx 600 tabs was getting a bit strange, My memory usage (for three tabs + about:memory tab) 191.86 MB (100.0%) -- explicit Interesting.as I said I have three tabs + about:memory tab open, but nowhere in the structure do I see the listings for the three active tabs I do have open...but I do see information for a tab (i.e. web address!!) which I closed a while ago, even after re-loading the about:memory tab!! So no listing of open, active tabs but listing for previously closed tab!! I understandNot!. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
Daniel wrote: Ant wrote: On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and find out what is using up the memory! Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in 2.0.14) If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames which use memory) Verbose results: Main Process What does "inner-window(id=" followed by what looks like a website address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open?? If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's SM is using so much memory!! I have 16 "inner-windows" listed in about memory, and only about:memory loaded, but looking at the other URL's in his "Verbose Results" they probably are tabs. The 11 http://nerdapproved.com pages all appear to be the same content. I didn't open them all, just random samples Stopped counting at 12 YouTube pages. My memory usage is, Explicit Allocations 227.05 MB (100.0%) ++ -- explicit ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
On 7/16/2012 7:20 AM PT, Daniel typed: Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and find out what is using up the memory! Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in 2.0.14) If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames which use memory) Verbose results: Main Process What does "inner-window(id=" followed by what looks like a website address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open?? If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's SM is using so much memory!! Nah, not 600. Maybe about 50. -- "I don't understand them anymore, these people that travel the commuter-trains to their dormitory towns. These people call themselves human, but, by a pressure they do not feel, are forced to do their work like ants. With what do they fill their time when they are free of work on their silly little Sundays?" --Antoine de saint-Exupéry, 'Wind, Sand, and Stars,' 1939 /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
Ant wrote: On 7/15/2012 10:50 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and find out what is using up the memory! Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in 2.0.14) If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames which use memory) Verbose results: Main Process What does "inner-window(id=" followed by what looks like a website address mean?? Are these indications of the tabs that Ant had open?? If so, well, I gave up counting after about 150 inner-window's (I'm guessing about 600 tabs total!!), so I would guessany wonder Ant's SM is using so much memory!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
On 7/15/2012 3:05 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed: I closed a bunch to avoid the sensitive ones and memory usages went down a bit. Must be too many tabs/web pages I guess? ;) Yes, my skim of that memory dump doesn't turn anything too extravagant up other than just a large number of pages/windows/tabs open. The largest noteworthy thing, is on aggregate there is a lot of memory used by ad/content servers, and by the "widgets" for facebook/twitter/G+/etc. among all the pages you have open. And I use AdBlock Plus with several subscriptions! :( -- "While an ant was wandering under the shade of the tree of Phæton, a drop of amber enveloped the tiny insect; thus she, who in life was disregarded, became precious by death." --Martial, Epigrams (c. 80-104 AD), Book VI, Epistle 15. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
Ant wrote: > > I closed a bunch to avoid the sensitive ones and memory usages went down > a bit. Must be too many tabs/web pages I guess? ;) Yes, my skim of that memory dump doesn't turn anything too extravagant up other than just a large number of pages/windows/tabs open. The largest noteworthy thing, is on aggregate there is a lot of memory used by ad/content servers, and by the "widgets" for facebook/twitter/G+/etc. among all the pages you have open. See, e.g. http://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2011/06/21/you-make-what-you-measure/. Now the bugs purported to fix the issue described there *appear* to be fixed, but it still adds up, and stuff may have changed between all that (I'm no Internals/Memory expert). -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
Ant wrote: > Hi again! > > Is anyone else noticing v2.10.1 uses a lot more memory than v2.0.14 and > earlier? I saw my new SM installation and profile went high as 1.5-1.6 > (peak) GB in my old, updated 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine (2.5 GB > of RAM). This was I surfing, watching videos, using tabs, etc. a lot. I > didn't use the computer overnight (about 9.5 hours). My extension > collection is smaller than v2.0.14's: Hard to say, *but* unlike in 2.0.14 we do have a new way to (try) and find out what is using up the memory! Try loading about:memory in a new tab, and you should see a breakdown. Part of it could be new memory cache stuff, part of it could be related to Places Bookmark/History cache, part of it could be new web features that some of the pages take advantage of (an were unable to do so in 2.0.14) If anything specific looks odd there, or if you don't feel like you can identify "odd" there, feel free to post its contents to list (warning: if you do so its a privacy leak -- slightly -- since it shows hostnames which use memory) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Finally dumping my old v2.0.14 installations on my old Windows machines... Memory usages.
Hi again! Is anyone else noticing v2.10.1 uses a lot more memory than v2.0.14 and earlier? I saw my new SM installation and profile went high as 1.5-1.6 (peak) GB in my old, updated 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine (2.5 GB of RAM). This was I surfing, watching videos, using tabs, etc. a lot. I didn't use the computer overnight (about 9.5 hours). My extension collection is smaller than v2.0.14's: Last updated: Sun Jul 15 2012 10:14:22 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Extensions (enabled: 7) * Adblock Plus 2.1.1 (http://adblockplus.org/en/) * ColorfulTabs 12.5 (http://www.binaryturf.com/free-software/colorfultabs-for-firefox/) * DOM Inspector 2.0.12 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) * Flashblock 1.3.19 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/) * IE View 1.5.1 (http://ieview.roub.net/) * PrefBar 6.1.0 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/) * WOT 20120515 (http://www.mywot.com/) Is this related to the new memory cache code or something else? Thank you in advance. :) -- "The greatest enemies of ants are other ants, just as the greatest enemies of men are other men." --Auguste Forel /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
