Re: Gmail: unknown device blocked
A Williams wrote: Paul Marwick wrote: I've been using Seamonkey mail as my primary email client for a long time. My main email account is a gmail account, which has been in existence for a long time as well. Twice since I installed 2.49.1, I've had messages from Gmail saying that someone tried to use my password from an unknown device. In both cases, Seamonkey had been running against the gmail account for a period of hours at least. One instance was my laptop, then today I got a similar warning regarding my desktop machine (which runs Seamonkey mail all the time). In both instances, once I confirmed that the IP used for the "attempt" was my own IP, things have gone back to normal. Is anyone else seeing this sort of error? It may be that Google has done something to change its security, but it does seem odd that I've only seen the error since I installed the latest version, and it also seems odd that Google can't identify the device, even though it normally shows that I'm accessing the account from a Linux based machine. At the time, the only thing accessing the Gmail account would have been Seamonkey... I've also got another IMAP account which is behaving a little oddly. I access it both with Seamonkey mail and through a webmail interface (the webmail interface is the most recent version of Horde). Suddenly, any time I attempt to use the webmail interface from Seamonkey, it is reporting that the browser doesn't support javascript or javascript is disabled. I've not changed anything, and I was able to access the webmail interface after the upgrade to 2.49.1. I can still access it correctly in Chromium or Firefox - its only Seamonkey that has the problem. I'm using the official Arch Linux Seamonkey build: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171107205422 Paul. As you can see from the User Agent, I'm still on 2.46. I have two ISPs, my "normal" one and one for emergencies when the "normal" one does not work for some reason (they are totally seperate). Yesterday I had a problem and switched to the backup ISP. My gmail access is via IMAP and gmail complained almost immediately, saying someone had access to my password and asking if this was really me. The attempted access was blocked. In my case the messages (and the access) were legitimate. That sounds exactly like the problem I had. So at least its not something in 2.49.1 - just gmail doing strange things. I had another strange problem with Gmail a few days ago - I had been logged into my gmail account both on the desktop upstairs and on my laptop. Just as I was getting ready to pack up and go to bed, I got a pop-up from gmail telling me to log in via the web. Didn't make much sense, since I hadn't got one of the "someone tried your password" messages this time. But I couldn't access Gmail from the laptop at all, so I fired up the browser and did as asked. That worked, but I still couldn't use the email client to log in to gmail. After going back and forwards a few times, I gave up and went to check the desktop. Which had exactly the same problem. And also didn't want to clear. After a lot of struggling, I got gmail to accept al login from Thunderbird (which I had configured but hadn't used in months). Still couldn't get anywhere with Seamonkey mail. In the end I gave up and went to bed. Next morning the problem had gone - Seamonkey mail was working again. So whatever gmail broke, they fixed. For the moment at least Paul. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail: unknown device blocked
Paul Marwick wrote: I've been using Seamonkey mail as my primary email client for a long time. My main email account is a gmail account, which has been in existence for a long time as well. Twice since I installed 2.49.1, I've had messages from Gmail saying that someone tried to use my password from an unknown device. In both cases, Seamonkey had been running against the gmail account for a period of hours at least. One instance was my laptop, then today I got a similar warning regarding my desktop machine (which runs Seamonkey mail all the time). In both instances, once I confirmed that the IP used for the "attempt" was my own IP, things have gone back to normal. Is anyone else seeing this sort of error? It may be that Google has done something to change its security, but it does seem odd that I've only seen the error since I installed the latest version, and it also seems odd that Google can't identify the device, even though it normally shows that I'm accessing the account from a Linux based machine. At the time, the only thing accessing the Gmail account would have been Seamonkey... I've also got another IMAP account which is behaving a little oddly. I access it both with Seamonkey mail and through a webmail interface (the webmail interface is the most recent version of Horde). Suddenly, any time I attempt to use the webmail interface from Seamonkey, it is reporting that the browser doesn't support javascript or javascript is disabled. I've not changed anything, and I was able to access the webmail interface after the upgrade to 2.49.1. I can still access it correctly in Chromium or Firefox - its only Seamonkey that has the problem. I'm using the official Arch Linux Seamonkey build: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171107205422 Paul. As you can see from the User Agent, I'm still on 2.46. I have two ISPs, my "normal" one and one for emergencies when the "normal" one does not work for some reason (they are totally seperate). Yesterday I had a problem and switched to the backup ISP. My gmail access is via IMAP and gmail complained almost immediately, saying someone had access to my password and asking if this was really me. The attempted access was blocked. In my case the messages (and the access) were legitimate. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail: unknown device blocked
Paul Marwick wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Google has been pulling this crap for months, probably over a year now. I routinely clear cookies automatically on shutdown, and sometimes manually during a session, and Google uses cookies to recognize your device. So every time I clear cookies, it thinks I'm logging in with a new device and wants me to prove I'm me. Interesting. I had no idea that the mail client used cookies at all. I was able to log in using the web browser the first time it happened. It was also the fact that normally when I get emails noting a login from another device they are usually able to identify the OS, which didn't happen in this case - it was just "unknown device". Though most of the warning messages about logging in from other devices would apply to a web login, not an IMAP connection from a mail client. OK, I didn't mean to claim that the mail client used cookies. I routinely retrieve Gmail by POP3 without difficulty (sorry, no IMAP experience). But if you go through the webmail it's a different story. That's when you have to jump through all those hoops. Yet another reason to hate webmails. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail: unknown device blocked
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Paul Marwick wrote: I've been using Seamonkey mail as my primary email client for a long time. My main email account is a gmail account, which has been in existence for a long time as well. Twice since I installed 2.49.1, I've had messages from Gmail saying that someone tried to use my password from an unknown device. In both cases, Seamonkey had been running against the gmail account for a period of hours at least. One instance was my laptop, then today I got a similar warning regarding my desktop machine (which runs Seamonkey mail all the time). In both instances, once I confirmed that the IP used for the "attempt" was my own IP, things have gone back to normal. Is anyone else seeing this sort of error? It may be that Google has done something to change its security, but it does seem odd that I've only seen the error since I installed the latest version, and it also seems odd that Google can't identify the device, even though it normally shows that I'm accessing the account from a Linux based machine. At the time, the only thing accessing the Gmail account would have been Seamonkey... ... Google has been pulling this crap for months, probably over a year now. I routinely clear cookies automatically on shutdown, and sometimes manually during a session, and Google uses cookies to recognize your device. So every time I clear cookies, it thinks I'm logging in with a new device and wants me to prove I'm me. Interesting. I had no idea that the mail client used cookies at all. I was able to log in using the web browser the first time it happened. It was also the fact that normally when I get emails noting a login from another device they are usually able to identify the OS, which didn't happen in this case - it was just "unknown device". Though most of the warning messages about logging in from other devices would apply to a web login, not an IMAP connection from a mail client. In your case, I suspect the cookie had a time limit and expired. You can confirm/refute that by inspecting the cookie the next time you log in. Thanks. I'll do some more checking. I've no idea what cookies are kept for google - I use the search engine, Google+ (not my favourite thing, but its the only way I can keep up with an Android app that I use) as well as maps and Google Keep. So I guess there are probably a heap of cookies in there. No idea what their expiry is either. Paul. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail: unknown device blocked
Paul Marwick wrote: I've been using Seamonkey mail as my primary email client for a long time. My main email account is a gmail account, which has been in existence for a long time as well. Twice since I installed 2.49.1, I've had messages from Gmail saying that someone tried to use my password from an unknown device. In both cases, Seamonkey had been running against the gmail account for a period of hours at least. One instance was my laptop, then today I got a similar warning regarding my desktop machine (which runs Seamonkey mail all the time). In both instances, once I confirmed that the IP used for the "attempt" was my own IP, things have gone back to normal. Is anyone else seeing this sort of error? It may be that Google has done something to change its security, but it does seem odd that I've only seen the error since I installed the latest version, and it also seems odd that Google can't identify the device, even though it normally shows that I'm accessing the account from a Linux based machine. At the time, the only thing accessing the Gmail account would have been Seamonkey... ... Google has been pulling this crap for months, probably over a year now. I routinely clear cookies automatically on shutdown, and sometimes manually during a session, and Google uses cookies to recognize your device. So every time I clear cookies, it thinks I'm logging in with a new device and wants me to prove I'm me. In your case, I suspect the cookie had a time limit and expired. You can confirm/refute that by inspecting the cookie the next time you log in. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Gmail: unknown device blocked
I've been using Seamonkey mail as my primary email client for a long time. My main email account is a gmail account, which has been in existence for a long time as well. Twice since I installed 2.49.1, I've had messages from Gmail saying that someone tried to use my password from an unknown device. In both cases, Seamonkey had been running against the gmail account for a period of hours at least. One instance was my laptop, then today I got a similar warning regarding my desktop machine (which runs Seamonkey mail all the time). In both instances, once I confirmed that the IP used for the "attempt" was my own IP, things have gone back to normal. Is anyone else seeing this sort of error? It may be that Google has done something to change its security, but it does seem odd that I've only seen the error since I installed the latest version, and it also seems odd that Google can't identify the device, even though it normally shows that I'm accessing the account from a Linux based machine. At the time, the only thing accessing the Gmail account would have been Seamonkey... I've also got another IMAP account which is behaving a little oddly. I access it both with Seamonkey mail and through a webmail interface (the webmail interface is the most recent version of Horde). Suddenly, any time I attempt to use the webmail interface from Seamonkey, it is reporting that the browser doesn't support javascript or javascript is disabled. I've not changed anything, and I was able to access the webmail interface after the upgrade to 2.49.1. I can still access it correctly in Chromium or Firefox - its only Seamonkey that has the problem. I'm using the official Arch Linux Seamonkey build: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171107205422 Paul. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
