Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Jeffrey Needle wrote: Martin F. wrote: Jeffrey Needle schrieb: I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe you want to try and use Seamonkeys built-in Mail-part for gmail then? (and any other email-provider you might be using) It's kinda similar in usage concerning folders etc. Window = MailNewsgroups or press Ctrl+2 Create a new account with the new account wizard using this data: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=13287 And don't forget to make sure that POP or IMAP is enabled in your google mail account. For IMAP instead of POP3: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78799 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78892 I guess it's easier for you to setup POP, but IMAP offers you to have all mails synchronized in SM and in the webmail interface at any time, so decide what you need/prefer. :-) regards Martin Yes, I use SM's mail client for my gmail account. I was looking for a way to read my gmail on the server and not download anything. I hate gmail's native interface. So use IMAP and choose leave mail on server until I move or delete it. To read it you have to download it, your choices are POP, IMAP, or HTML. But you don't have to keep it, allowing you to read from several machines without losing the mail. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Bill Davidsen wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: Martin F. wrote: Jeffrey Needle schrieb: I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe you want to try and use Seamonkeys built-in Mail-part for gmail then? (and any other email-provider you might be using) It's kinda similar in usage concerning folders etc. Window = MailNewsgroups or press Ctrl+2 Create a new account with the new account wizard using this data: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=13287 And don't forget to make sure that POP or IMAP is enabled in your google mail account. For IMAP instead of POP3: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78799 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78892 I guess it's easier for you to setup POP, but IMAP offers you to have all mails synchronized in SM and in the webmail interface at any time, so decide what you need/prefer. :-) regards Martin Yes, I use SM's mail client for my gmail account. I was looking for a way to read my gmail on the server and not download anything. I hate gmail's native interface. So use IMAP and choose leave mail on server until I move or delete it. To read it you have to download it, your choices are POP, IMAP, or HTML. But you don't have to keep it, allowing you to read from several machines without losing the mail. That's not where the problem is. There's too much handling to do -- especially when a thread has gone on for a while, and you have to figure out if you've read the entries in the thread or not. And so much monkeying around with the message list. Nah, I'll stay with the POP server and continue to download the posts to SM. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Martin F. wrote: Jeffrey Needle schrieb: I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe you want to try and use Seamonkeys built-in Mail-part for gmail then? (and any other email-provider you might be using) It's kinda similar in usage concerning folders etc. Window = MailNewsgroups or press Ctrl+2 Create a new account with the new account wizard using this data: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=13287 And don't forget to make sure that POP or IMAP is enabled in your google mail account. For IMAP instead of POP3: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78799 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78892 I guess it's easier for you to setup POP, but IMAP offers you to have all mails synchronized in SM and in the webmail interface at any time, so decide what you need/prefer. :-) regards Martin Yes, I use SM's mail client for my gmail account. I was looking for a way to read my gmail on the server and not download anything. I hate gmail's native interface. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Jeffrey Needle schrieb: I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe you want to try and use Seamonkeys built-in Mail-part for gmail then? (and any other email-provider you might be using) It's kinda similar in usage concerning folders etc. Window = MailNewsgroups or press Ctrl+2 Create a new account with the new account wizard using this data: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=13287 And don't forget to make sure that POP or IMAP is enabled in your google mail account. For IMAP instead of POP3: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78799 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hlrm=deanswer=78892 I guess it's easier for you to setup POP, but IMAP offers you to have all mails synchronized in SM and in the webmail interface at any time, so decide what you need/prefer. :-) regards Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: BJ wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: Philip Chee wrote: /snip/ But the Gmail interface is the same as all other IMAP mail servers, so why is it singles out. When you configure a new account and it's Gmail using IMPA (don't know if they do POP3 any more), it looks like Verizon, or ATT, or any other server. I can't see why Gmail is singled out. GMail does indeed offer both POP3 and IMAP for use in mail clients. I think that is the misunderstanding. The webmail interface for GMail is charitably described as clunky. I would describe it as unusable. No, I have had to use it once or twice on the road, and clunky it is. But why would anyone do that with SM? Using Gmail from the browser interface is just the wrong thing to do. :-( The only reason I can use GMail is to use it in SeaMonkey Mail/News as an IMAP account. There it behaves just like any other IMAP account. The POP version also behaves like any other POP account. I think we are comaring the Web interface with the Mail client interface. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Jeffrey Needle wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil Unfortunately, no. I have to see what the interfaces do to know if it's good for me. I just think Gmail's interface is clunky and hard to use. I'll try both of the ones you mention and see how they work. I'll report back when I have more specific information. I don't understand what you mean by Gmail's interface being clunky. If you don't like the interface to IMAP mailboxes in mail/news, that's your choice, but why do you find it any clunkier than any other? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Bill Davidsen wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil Unfortunately, no. I have to see what the interfaces do to know if it's good for me. I just think Gmail's interface is clunky and hard to use. I'll try both of the ones you mention and see how they work. I'll report back when I have more specific information. I don't understand what you mean by Gmail's interface being clunky. If you don't like the interface to IMAP mailboxes in mail/news, that's your choice, but why do you find it any clunkier than any other? While the OP may answer that anyway, it is a question of aesthetics, and thus very very subjective (I don't understand it either, but then I don't understand what's so special, and appealing to some, about modern art . . . hell, I wouldn't even know what modern art would be even if I was looking right at it). You can't really crawl into someone's subjective reasoning. So, one person's clunky Gmail interface can be another's beautiful and efficient Gmail interface (I wouldn't go so far myself to describe it as beautiful, but it seems fine to me). Will be interested to see the OP's answer. BJ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
BJ wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil Unfortunately, no. I have to see what the interfaces do to know if it's good for me. I just think Gmail's interface is clunky and hard to use. I'll try both of the ones you mention and see how they work. I'll report back when I have more specific information. I don't understand what you mean by Gmail's interface being clunky. If you don't like the interface to IMAP mailboxes in mail/news, that's your choice, but why do you find it any clunkier than any other? While the OP may answer that anyway, it is a question of aesthetics, and thus very very subjective (I don't understand it either, but then I don't understand what's so special, and appealing to some, about modern art . . . hell, I wouldn't even know what modern art would be even if I was looking right at it). You can't really crawl into someone's subjective reasoning. So, one person's clunky Gmail interface can be another's beautiful and efficient Gmail interface (I wouldn't go so far myself to describe it as beautiful, but it seems fine to me). Will be interested to see the OP's answer. But the Gmail interface is the same as all other IMAP mail servers, so why is it singles out. When you configure a new account and it's Gmail using IMPA (don't know if they do POP3 any more), it looks like Verizon, or ATT, or any other server. I can't see why Gmail is singled out. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Bill Davidsen wrote: BJ wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: Philip Chee wrote: /snip/ But the Gmail interface is the same as all other IMAP mail servers, so why is it singles out. When you configure a new account and it's Gmail using IMPA (don't know if they do POP3 any more), it looks like Verizon, or ATT, or any other server. I can't see why Gmail is singled out. GMail does indeed offer both POP3 and IMAP for use in mail clients. I think that is the misunderstanding. The webmail interface for GMail is charitably described as clunky. I would describe it as unusable. The only reason I can use GMail is to use it in SeaMonkey Mail/News as an IMAP account. There it behaves just like any other IMAP account. The POP version also behaves like any other POP account. I think we are comaring the Web interface with the Mail client interface. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:42:53 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil Responding again. GTDInbox doesn't seem to work with Seamonkey, only Firefox -- SM not mentioned. I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe I'm just dreaming. Well what I meant was: Which is this absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use that you were referring to? Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:42:53 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil Responding again. GTDInbox doesn't seem to work with Seamonkey, only Firefox -- SM not mentioned. I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe I'm just dreaming. Well what I meant was: Which is this absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use that you were referring to? Phil It's the Better Gmail you mention. It won't work with SM, as far as I can see. When you try to download it, it advises you to download Firefox. Maybe I'm missing something? Maybe it can be made to work with SM? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil Unfortunately, no. I have to see what the interfaces do to know if it's good for me. I just think Gmail's interface is clunky and hard to use. I'll try both of the ones you mention and see how they work. I'll report back when I have more specific information. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail interface for SM 2
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:04:34 -0500, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I see there's an absolutely beautiful add-on for Firefox that makes gmail so much nicer and easier to use. Is there something like this for Seamonkey? Using SM2 on a WinXP system. There are several extensions including BetterGmail and GTDInbox. Could you be more specific? Phil Responding again. GTDInbox doesn't seem to work with Seamonkey, only Firefox -- SM not mentioned. I guess what I'd like is for my gmail to look a little like Outlook Express used to look. It was simple moving mails to folders, and clicking on an email in the inbox opened only the latest e-mail, not the whole thread. Maybe I'm just dreaming. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
