Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
On 08/02/14 15:10, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Earlier today, I wrote: NortonSupport wrote: Hello, Sorry for the trouble. I am Vineeth and I am from the Norton Support team. Can you please submit the file to us at http://www.Norton.com/fp so we can review it and white list if needed. Unable to comply: An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #97.98f34317.1391803461.1db71a34 No, wait, reloading five minutes later worked. CONFIRMATION Your submission has been sent Fri Feb 7 12:14:21 PST 2014. To make another submission, click here. Sincerely, Symantec Security Response As it happens, I just got a top-secret message from Symantec advising that the file had been taken off their $#!+ list. They also invited me (if I'm a software vendor) to join their whitelisting program. G However, I'm prohibited from telling anyone: This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. So remember, if anyone asks, you didn't hear it from me. You naughty, naughty, boy, Paul!! Any wonder Norton/Symantec will not fix your problem!! Cross-posted and Follow-up set to m.gen. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
On 09/02/14 19:48, Daniel wrote: On 08/02/14 15:10, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Earlier today, I wrote: NortonSupport wrote: Hello, Sorry for the trouble. I am Vineeth and I am from the Norton Support team. Can you please submit the file to us at http://www.Norton.com/fp so we can review it and white list if needed. Unable to comply: An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #97.98f34317.1391803461.1db71a34 No, wait, reloading five minutes later worked. CONFIRMATION Your submission has been sent Fri Feb 7 12:14:21 PST 2014. To make another submission, click here. Sincerely, Symantec Security Response As it happens, I just got a top-secret message from Symantec advising that the file had been taken off their $#!+ list. They also invited me (if I'm a software vendor) to join their whitelisting program. G However, I'm prohibited from telling anyone: This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. So remember, if anyone asks, you didn't hear it from me. You naughty, naughty, boy, Paul!! Any wonder Norton/Symantec will not fix your problem!! Cross-posted and Follow-up set to m.gen. And, as usual, I forgot the smiley-faces!! :-) ;-) Cross-posted and Follow-up set to m.gen. (again) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
Jim wrote: I used to have this problem with SM and Norton. I now wait a few days for Norton to get its act together -- haven't had a problem since. Also, I check this group before installation, to make sure there aren't any other show-stoppers that I need to know about, so I don't do something that I don't want to do. Yes, I usually wait longer, too. Thanks for reminding me of best practices. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Reinstallation as described solved the problem. I can now browse and send/receive email, and my add-ons have reappeared and seem to be working normally. Only annoyance is that I had to install Modern theme, restart, disable it in favor of Default theme, which I prefer, restart. I reported the issue in case others face it, don't know what to do. NG still worked even when everything else didn't. Wish the devs could find a way to add their files to Norton's whitelist I'm assuming that freebl3.dll file was one of ours, NIS had a false positive -- please confirm??? There have been discussions on this in this Newsgroup for years now, the developers have tried various strategies with Norton but nothing helps. No other Virus Scanner has this problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
On 2/6/2014 11:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. By the way, I found freebl3.dll files on my PC for SeaMonkey, Thunderbird (I don't use SeaMonkey's mail-news capabilities), and GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program). Each has a different size. Neither AVG AntiVirus nor Malwarebytes has ever complained about these files. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam, flames, and trolling from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Does anybody have a solution short of getting rid of Norton? I need SeaMonkey...can I go back to version 2.23? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:43:57 PM UTC+5:30, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher Hello, Sorry for the trouble. I am Vineeth and I am from the Norton Support team. Can you please submit the file to us at http://www.Norton.com/fp so we can review it and white list if needed. Thanks! Vineeth Norton Support ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
Ken Rudolph wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Does anybody have a solution short of getting rid of Norton? I need SeaMonkey...can I go back to version 2.23? I seem to have solved the problem (at least now SeaMonkey loads). I went to Norton 360 and pulled the offending file out of quarantine and re-installed it and checked the box which accepts this .dll file in the future. Then I restarted my Win-7 computer and it worked fine. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
NortonSupport wrote: Hello, Sorry for the trouble. I am Vineeth and I am from the Norton Support team. Can you please submit the file to us at http://www.Norton.com/fp so we can review it and white list if needed. Unable to comply: An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #97.98f34317.1391803461.1db71a34 No, wait, reloading five minutes later worked. CONFIRMATION Your submission has been sent Fri Feb 7 12:14:21 PST 2014. To make another submission, click here. Sincerely, Symantec Security Response -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
WaltS wrote: Known issue since version 2.15. Should be white listed by now. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.15/#issues Norton/Symantec anti-virus scanners may report that some parts of SeaMonkey (e.g. the file freebl3.dll) are suspicious. If you downloaded SeaMonkey from one of the official download sites, this is a false alarm. You might experience problems with secure websites when this happens. To fix the issue, instruct your anti-virus software to ignore these files (and move them out of quarantine) and/or switch to another anti-virus software and reinstall SeaMonkey. Thanks for the reassurance. I couldn't remember if this was or wasn't one of the files Norton misdiagnoses. If the problem is that old, they're really asleep at the switch. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
Earlier today, I wrote: NortonSupport wrote: Hello, Sorry for the trouble. I am Vineeth and I am from the Norton Support team. Can you please submit the file to us at http://www.Norton.com/fp so we can review it and white list if needed. Unable to comply: An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #97.98f34317.1391803461.1db71a34 No, wait, reloading five minutes later worked. CONFIRMATION Your submission has been sent Fri Feb 7 12:14:21 PST 2014. To make another submission, click here. Sincerely, Symantec Security Response As it happens, I just got a top-secret message from Symantec advising that the file had been taken off their $#!+ list. They also invited me (if I'm a software vendor) to join their whitelisting program. G However, I'm prohibited from telling anyone: This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. So remember, if anyone asks, you didn't hear it from me. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. I used to have this problem with SM and Norton. I now wait a few days for Norton to get its act together -- haven't had a problem since. Also, I check this group before installation, to make sure there aren't any other show-stoppers that I need to know about, so I don't do something that I don't want to do. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Hitches with 2.24 update
Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam, flames, and trolling from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Reinstallation as described solved the problem. I can now browse and send/receive email, and my add-ons have reappeared and seem to be working normally. Only annoyance is that I had to install Modern theme, restart, disable it in favor of Default theme, which I prefer, restart. I reported the issue in case others face it, don't know what to do. NG still worked even when everything else didn't. Wish the devs could find a way to add their files to Norton's whitelist I'm assuming that freebl3.dll file was one of ours, NIS had a false positive -- please confirm??? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey