Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
Ant wrote on 2/03/2020 8:52 AM: On 3/1/2020 1:46 PM, Ant wrote: On 3/1/2020 1:16 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ok, that's odd, I know there are moves (in the latest browsers) to disable certain types of invasive behaviour, but I'm not aware of anything that different between FireFox and SeaMonkey right now. Have you confirmed for example that FireFox is using less resources than SeaMonkey when opening the same tabs and visiting the same sites? Well, multiprocesses, faster speeds, etc. SM v2.49.5 still uses a single process. I have quadcore CPUs. I'd love to use more than one! :P According to https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32673473-, v2.53.1 is actually based on Firefox v56. V2.57 is supposed to have Gecko improvements. Darn it! :( My (often faulty) memory is telling me that Firefox is/was moving to some new engine, something that supersedes Gecko. Is this still so?? If so, when might SeaMonkey also make the move, given its restricted manpower resources?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
On 3/1/2020 1:46 PM, Ant wrote: On 3/1/2020 1:16 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Some ways forward 1. Switch to Linux (I'd expect RAM usage to drop from around 5.9G [with heavy paging] to around 1.9G without paging), JavaScript will be slightly faster, but this won't fix bandwidth. Not sure Win7 is even covered by security policy. 2. Install NoScript classic. This will block a huge amount of ad related JavaScript and prevent a huge number of http connections. 3. Might be worth doing some system profiling, check if the CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and Network bandwidth is really being used by the web browser, or by something else, e.g. use Resource Manager in Win7 Newer Firefox versions (e.g., v73) had no issues though. :/ Ok, that's odd, I know there are moves (in the latest browsers) to disable certain types of invasive behaviour, but I'm not aware of anything that different between FireFox and SeaMonkey right now. Have you confirmed for example that FireFox is using less resources than SeaMonkey when opening the same tabs and visiting the same sites? Well, multiprocesses, faster speeds, etc. SM v2.49.5 still uses a single process. I have quadcore CPUs. I'd love to use more than one! :P According to https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32673473-, v2.53.1 is actually based on Firefox v56. V2.57 is supposed to have Gecko improvements. Darn it! :( -- "A 'practical joker' deserves applause for his wit according to its quality. Bastinado is about right. For exceptional wit one might grant keelhauling. But staking him out on an anthill should be reserved for the very wittiest." --Lazarus Long Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
On 3/1/2020 1:16 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Some ways forward 1. Switch to Linux (I'd expect RAM usage to drop from around 5.9G [with heavy paging] to around 1.9G without paging), JavaScript will be slightly faster, but this won't fix bandwidth. Not sure Win7 is even covered by security policy. 2. Install NoScript classic. This will block a huge amount of ad related JavaScript and prevent a huge number of http connections. 3. Might be worth doing some system profiling, check if the CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and Network bandwidth is really being used by the web browser, or by something else, e.g. use Resource Manager in Win7 Newer Firefox versions (e.g., v73) had no issues though. :/ Ok, that's odd, I know there are moves (in the latest browsers) to disable certain types of invasive behaviour, but I'm not aware of anything that different between FireFox and SeaMonkey right now. Have you confirmed for example that FireFox is using less resources than SeaMonkey when opening the same tabs and visiting the same sites? Well, multiprocesses, faster speeds, etc. SM v2.49.5 still uses a single process. I have quadcore CPUs. I'd love to use more than one! :P -- "A 'practical joker' deserves applause for his wit according to its quality. Bastinado is about right. For exceptional wit one might grant keelhauling. But staking him out on an anthill should be reserved for the very wittiest." --Lazarus Long Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
Ant wrote: Some ways forward 1. Switch to Linux (I'd expect RAM usage to drop from around 5.9G [with heavy paging] to around 1.9G without paging), JavaScript will be slightly faster, but this won't fix bandwidth. Not sure Win7 is even covered by security policy. 2. Install NoScript classic. This will block a huge amount of ad related JavaScript and prevent a huge number of http connections. 3. Might be worth doing some system profiling, check if the CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and Network bandwidth is really being used by the web browser, or by something else, e.g. use Resource Manager in Win7 Newer Firefox versions (e.g., v73) had no issues though. :/ Ok, that's odd, I know there are moves (in the latest browsers) to disable certain types of invasive behaviour, but I'm not aware of anything that different between FireFox and SeaMonkey right now. Have you confirmed for example that FireFox is using less resources than SeaMonkey when opening the same tabs and visiting the same sites? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
On 2/29/2020 3:23 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are still slow and taking up a lot of RAM with multiple tabs in my decade old 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM, 2 SATA HDDs, etc.). I would say this is expected. Those "big" sites will fire up so many http connections, bandwidth hogs and JavaScript loops, that it's a wonder they run at all. Plus I hope you don't have video autostart enabnled. Some ways forward 1. Switch to Linux (I'd expect RAM usage to drop from around 5.9G [with heavy paging] to around 1.9G without paging), JavaScript will be slightly faster, but this won't fix bandwidth. Not sure Win7 is even covered by security policy. 2. Install NoScript classic. This will block a huge amount of ad related JavaScript and prevent a huge number of http connections. 3. Might be worth doing some system profiling, check if the CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and Network bandwidth is really being used by the web browser, or by something else, e.g. use Resource Manager in Win7 Newer Firefox versions (e.g., v73) had no issues though. :/ -- "Bother," said Winnie the Pooh, as he stepped on an ant. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
Ant wrote: YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are still slow and taking up a lot of RAM with multiple tabs in my decade old 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM, 2 SATA HDDs, etc.). I would say this is expected. Those "big" sites will fire up so many http connections, bandwidth hogs and JavaScript loops, that it's a wonder they run at all. Plus I hope you don't have video autostart enabnled. Some ways forward 1. Switch to Linux (I'd expect RAM usage to drop from around 5.9G [with heavy paging] to around 1.9G without paging), JavaScript will be slightly faster, but this won't fix bandwidth. Not sure Win7 is even covered by security policy. 2. Install NoScript classic. This will block a huge amount of ad related JavaScript and prevent a huge number of http connections. 3. Might be worth doing some system profiling, check if the CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and Network bandwidth is really being used by the web browser, or by something else, e.g. use Resource Manager in Win7 -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are still slow and taking up a lot of RAM with multiple tabs in my decade old 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM, 2 SATA HDDs, etc.). -- Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
