Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Bergsagel

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 13-06-20 22:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Why not use the latest official release of SeaMonkey?  The latest is 
2.53.2.



I am waiting the 2.53.3
I am using the Mac version by W9Gs 2.53.4b1. The only plug-in I use is 
PDF Viewer. In my experience most sites function best when I do not 
modify/spoof the user agent or advertise Firefox compatibility. This 
version is very stable i.e. "rock solid" with no major glitched or 
crashes.  Some websites do have some difficulties, but nothing major 
which might cause the user to loose data or end up with a corrupted user 
profile.


It is safe to run 2.53.2 or even the build by by W9Gs 2.53.4b1. You also 
get the benefit of additional bug fixes.  You don't need to wait for the 
official 2.53.3.  The betas are very stable (at least they are on my 
MacIntosh).

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Bergsagel

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



With Google Maps, I had to set the Firefox compatibility information in 
the user-agent to get SeaMonkey to work properly with it.  I had to do 
the same thing with Pale Moon as well.


Google Maps works fine with version by W9Gs 2.53.4.b1 and I am not 
advertising Firefox compatibility.  Maybe the issue Ray is experiencing 
is resolved in 2.53.4?


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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-14 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 7:43 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that 
comment from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, 
reply from the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which 
has been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the 
new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site 
did not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update 
and reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates 
(converts) your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You 
only need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The 
profiles are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in 
case you want to go back to 2.49.whatever.




2.49.1 is x86 and if he wants x64 he should uninstall before.

FRG


Thanks, I wasn't aware of that!



I had thought I had been explicit enough in the second part of my 
previous posting, the one where you replied "Thanks for the reminder".


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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Ray_Net

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 14-06-20 01:43:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that 
comment from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, 
reply from the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which 
has been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the 
new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site 
did not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update 
and reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates 
(converts) your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You 
only need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The 
profiles are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in 
case you want to go back to 2.49.whatever.




2.49.1 is x86 and if he wants x64 he should uninstall before.

FRG

64bits SM is better than 32bits ?
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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread WaltS48

On 6/13/20 7:43 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that 
comment from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, 
reply from the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which 
has been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the 
new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site 
did not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update and 
reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates (converts) 
your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You 
only need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The 
profiles are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in 
case you want to go back to 2.49.whatever.




2.49.1 is x86 and if he wants x64 he should uninstall before.

FRG


Thanks, I wasn't aware of that!

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on 
my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment from 
your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, reply from the other 
one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has been 
"trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did not 
accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you can't 
fall back unless you saved your profile before the update and reload it - 
the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates (converts) your profile and 
makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit versions. 
  If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, uninstall your 32-bit 
version and install the new version.  You only need to do that when you 
migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The profiles are compatable between 2.49.1 
and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in case you 
want to go back to 2.49.whatever.




2.49.1 is x86 and if he wants x64 he should uninstall before.

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread WaltS48

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, reply from 
the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one 
as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update and 
reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates (converts) 
your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You only 
need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The profiles 
are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in 
case you want to go back to 2.49.whatever.


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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, reply from 
the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one 
as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update and 
reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates (converts) 
your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You only 
need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The profiles 
are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?
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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Ray_Net

EE wrote on 13-06-20 22:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Why not use the latest official release of SeaMonkey?  The latest is 
2.53.2.



I am waiting the 2.53.3
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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread EE

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



With Google Maps, I had to set the Firefox compatibility information in 
the user-agent to get SeaMonkey to work properly with it.  I had to do 
the same thing with Pale Moon as well.


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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread EE

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on 
my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment from 
your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the other 
one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Why not use the latest official release of SeaMonkey?  The latest is 2.53.2.

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread WaltS48

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you can't 
fall back unless you saved your profile before the update and reload it 
- the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates (converts) your profile 
and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit versions. 
  If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, uninstall your 
32-bit version and install the new version.  You only need to do that 
when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit.  The profiles are compatable 
between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you can't 
fall back unless you saved your profile before the update and reload it 
- the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates (converts) your profile 
and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit versions. 
 If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, uninstall your 
32-bit version and install the new version.  You only need to do that 
when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit.  The profiles are compatable 
between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.


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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread WaltS48

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did not 
accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 


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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Hi,

NOT reproducible with installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 
2.53.3beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20200510220906 (Default Classic Theme, 
newly created User Profile) on German WIN7 64bit.


You should try with a newly created User Profile and, as suggested by 
Don Spam's Reckless Son, in Safe Mode with disabled Add-Ons.


Based on your results we can try to find the evildoer

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[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Ray_Net

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did not 
accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.
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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on 
my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment from 
your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the other 
one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has been 
"trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.

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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Ray_Net

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2
is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on 
my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment from 
your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the other 
one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2
is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on my 
new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment from 
your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the other one 
and we can check user-agents).


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Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-13 Thread Ray_Net

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2
is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on my 
new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?
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