Re: Message undelete

2017-07-28 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Mason83 wrote:

On 28/07/2017 22:23, Ray_Net wrote:


So, it would be easy to change de tag indicating not-deleted ?


I believe so.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170619105411/http://www.eyrich-net.org/mozilla/X-Mozilla-Status.html?en

X-Mozilla-Status: 0009
Subtract 8 from this number.
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001

Then click "Repair Folder" (safely deletes msf).
Message should reappear.

Regards.

I knew that. I'm afraid of screwing up the entire file with the editor, 
especially if I need to recover a bunch of files.


I did do the conversion of the extension I mentioned above and it seemed 
to work. I installed it in SeaMonkey but I haven't had time to test it.

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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-28 Thread Mason83
On 28/07/2017 22:23, Ray_Net wrote:

> So, it would be easy to change de tag indicating not-deleted ?

I believe so.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170619105411/http://www.eyrich-net.org/mozilla/X-Mozilla-Status.html?en

X-Mozilla-Status: 0009
Subtract 8 from this number.
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001

Then click "Repair Folder" (safely deletes msf).
Message should reappear.

Regards.
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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-28 Thread Ray_Net

Mason83 wrote on 28-07-17 19:36:

On 27/07/2017 21:21, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 27/07/2017 7:33 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?

You can move a message from the trash to another folder.

What do they do if it isn't in the trash?

Is it an email or newsgroup message?


In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another
folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not
sure what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and
can be fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an
undelete before I tried anything else and lost the messages
completely.

First check adjacent folders in the list -- I can't count the number of
times I've dragged and dropped a message into an adjacent folder by
mistake and couldn't find it because it wasn't where I thought I'd put
it.

Failing that, close SM and delete the .msf (index) file for the folder
in question. When you restart SeaMonkey, it'll build a new one. If the
message appears, you're done. If not, post back; you may be able to
recover it manually from the file but that's complicated.

In the interim, if SM offers to compact folders, be sure to refuse. If
it does, you'll lose all hope of recovery. And if you have it set to
compact folders automatically without asking, disable that feature.

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage
[ ] Compact all folders when it will save over nn MB in total


I, also, have dragged and dropped into the wrong folder and had to go
looking ... and finding and re-moving to the correct file.

Second thing for OP Rob to try . SeaMonkey stores it messages in one
file (e.g. inbox, sent, etc) and then has an associated index file (e.g.
inbox.msf, sent.msf).

If you close SeaMonkey and then delete all the *.msf files, when you
re-start SeaMonkey and address each folder in your profile, a new *.msf
file will be created for each folder in your profile (e.g. new
inbox.msf, sent.msf, whatever.msf, etc.) and, if your missing e-mail is
in any of the mail folders, it should show up.

Note:because you have not touched the actual files which hold your mail
(inbox, sent, whatever, etc), your mail should not be lost!!


Thanks for All of the suggestions. I'm pretty much aware of all of them.

In my experience email properly marked as deleted in the MBOX file will
not show up if a new index is created. It will show up if the index is
somehow corrupt.

I did find this add on for Thunderbird:


RECOVER DELETED MESSAGES: an extension that allows to recover deleted messages, if the 
folder has not been compacted yet. To use it, select the folder, right-click and choose 
"Recover deleted messages", then follow the messages in status bar.
 From the 0.2 version it should be able also to recover deleted messages from 
Imap folders, if they're set for offline use.
Localized in english and italian.
latest: 0.4 version (TB - compatibile 2.0 or higher)

I was hoping something similar was available for Sea Monkey. I'll
probably try to convert it to SeaMonkey and try it out.

Did you try opening the source mbox with a text editor?
If you haven't compacted the mbox, the message should
be there with a tag indicating it is deleted.

Regards.

So, it would be easy to change de tag indicating not-deleted ?
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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-28 Thread Mason83
On 27/07/2017 21:21, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> On 27/07/2017 7:33 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>>>
>>>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>> On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:
>>>>>> Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>>>>>>> Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can move a message from the trash to another folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do they do if it isn't in the trash?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it an email or newsgroup message?
>>>>>
>>>> In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another
>>>> folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not
>>>> sure what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and
>>>> can be fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an
>>>> undelete before I tried anything else and lost the messages
>>>> completely.
>>>
>>> First check adjacent folders in the list -- I can't count the number of
>>> times I've dragged and dropped a message into an adjacent folder by
>>> mistake and couldn't find it because it wasn't where I thought I'd put
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Failing that, close SM and delete the .msf (index) file for the folder
>>> in question. When you restart SeaMonkey, it'll build a new one. If the
>>> message appears, you're done. If not, post back; you may be able to
>>> recover it manually from the file but that's complicated.
>>>
>>> In the interim, if SM offers to compact folders, be sure to refuse. If
>>> it does, you'll lose all hope of recovery. And if you have it set to
>>> compact folders automatically without asking, disable that feature.
>>>
>>> Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage
>>> [ ] Compact all folders when it will save over nn MB in total
>>>
>> I, also, have dragged and dropped into the wrong folder and had to go
>> looking ... and finding and re-moving to the correct file.
>>
>> Second thing for OP Rob to try . SeaMonkey stores it messages in one
>> file (e.g. inbox, sent, etc) and then has an associated index file (e.g.
>> inbox.msf, sent.msf).
>>
>> If you close SeaMonkey and then delete all the *.msf files, when you
>> re-start SeaMonkey and address each folder in your profile, a new *.msf
>> file will be created for each folder in your profile (e.g. new
>> inbox.msf, sent.msf, whatever.msf, etc.) and, if your missing e-mail is
>> in any of the mail folders, it should show up.
>>
>> Note:because you have not touched the actual files which hold your mail
>> (inbox, sent, whatever, etc), your mail should not be lost!!
>>
> Thanks for All of the suggestions. I'm pretty much aware of all of them.
> 
> In my experience email properly marked as deleted in the MBOX file will 
> not show up if a new index is created. It will show up if the index is 
> somehow corrupt.
> 
> I did find this add on for Thunderbird:
> 
>> RECOVER DELETED MESSAGES: an extension that allows to recover deleted 
>> messages, if the folder has not been compacted yet. To use it, select the 
>> folder, right-click and choose "Recover deleted messages", then follow the 
>> messages in status bar.
>> From the 0.2 version it should be able also to recover deleted messages from 
>> Imap folders, if they're set for offline use.
>> Localized in english and italian.
>> latest: 0.4 version (TB - compatibile 2.0 or higher)
> 
> I was hoping something similar was available for Sea Monkey. I'll 
> probably try to convert it to SeaMonkey and try it out.

Did you try opening the source mbox with a text editor?
If you haven't compacted the mbox, the message should
be there with a tag indicating it is deleted.

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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-27 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Daniel wrote:

On 27/07/2017 7:33 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?



You can move a message from the trash to another folder.


What do they do if it isn't in the trash?

Is it an email or newsgroup message?


In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another
folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not
sure what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and
can be fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an
undelete before I tried anything else and lost the messages
completely.


First check adjacent folders in the list -- I can't count the number of
times I've dragged and dropped a message into an adjacent folder by
mistake and couldn't find it because it wasn't where I thought I'd put
it.

Failing that, close SM and delete the .msf (index) file for the folder
in question. When you restart SeaMonkey, it'll build a new one. If the
message appears, you're done. If not, post back; you may be able to
recover it manually from the file but that's complicated.

In the interim, if SM offers to compact folders, be sure to refuse. If
it does, you'll lose all hope of recovery. And if you have it set to
compact folders automatically without asking, disable that feature.

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage
[ ] Compact all folders when it will save over nn MB in total


I, also, have dragged and dropped into the wrong folder and had to go
looking ... and finding and re-moving to the correct file.

Second thing for OP Rob to try . SeaMonkey stores it messages in one
file (e.g. inbox, sent, etc) and then has an associated index file (e.g.
inbox.msf, sent.msf).

If you close SeaMonkey and then delete all the *.msf files, when you
re-start SeaMonkey and address each folder in your profile, a new *.msf
file will be created for each folder in your profile (e.g. new
inbox.msf, sent.msf, whatever.msf, etc.) and, if your missing e-mail is
in any of the mail folders, it should show up.

Note:because you have not touched the actual files which hold your mail
(inbox, sent, whatever, etc), your mail should not be lost!!


Thanks for All of the suggestions. I'm pretty much aware of all of them.

In my experience email properly marked as deleted in the MBOX file will 
not show up if a new index is created. It will show up if the index is 
somehow corrupt.


I did find this add on for Thunderbird:


RECOVER DELETED MESSAGES: an extension that allows to recover deleted messages, if the 
folder has not been compacted yet. To use it, select the folder, right-click and choose 
"Recover deleted messages", then follow the messages in status bar.
From the 0.2 version it should be able also to recover deleted messages from 
Imap folders, if they're set for offline use.
Localized in english and italian.
latest: 0.4 version (TB - compatibile 2.0 or higher)


I was hoping something similar was available for Sea Monkey. I'll 
probably try to convert it to SeaMonkey and try it out.

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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-27 Thread Daniel

On 27/07/2017 7:33 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?



You can move a message from the trash to another folder.


What do they do if it isn't in the trash?

Is it an email or newsgroup message?


In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another
folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not
sure what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and
can be fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an
undelete before I tried anything else and lost the messages
completely.


First check adjacent folders in the list -- I can't count the number of
times I've dragged and dropped a message into an adjacent folder by
mistake and couldn't find it because it wasn't where I thought I'd put it.

Failing that, close SM and delete the .msf (index) file for the folder
in question. When you restart SeaMonkey, it'll build a new one. If the
message appears, you're done. If not, post back; you may be able to
recover it manually from the file but that's complicated.

In the interim, if SM offers to compact folders, be sure to refuse. If
it does, you'll lose all hope of recovery. And if you have it set to
compact folders automatically without asking, disable that feature.

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage
[ ] Compact all folders when it will save over nn MB in total

I, also, have dragged and dropped into the wrong folder and had to go 
looking ... and finding and re-moving to the correct file.


Second thing for OP Rob to try . SeaMonkey stores it messages in one 
file (e.g. inbox, sent, etc) and then has an associated index file (e.g. 
inbox.msf, sent.msf).


If you close SeaMonkey and then delete all the *.msf files, when you 
re-start SeaMonkey and address each folder in your profile, a new *.msf 
file will be created for each folder in your profile (e.g. new 
inbox.msf, sent.msf, whatever.msf, etc.) and, if your missing e-mail is 
in any of the mail folders, it should show up.


Note:because you have not touched the actual files which hold your mail 
(inbox, sent, whatever, etc), your mail should not be lost!!


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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rob Steinmetz wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?



You can move a message from the trash to another folder.


What do they do if it isn't in the trash?

Is it an email or newsgroup message?


In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another
folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not
sure what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and
can be fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an
undelete before I tried anything else and lost the messages
completely.


First check adjacent folders in the list -- I can't count the number of 
times I've dragged and dropped a message into an adjacent folder by 
mistake and couldn't find it because it wasn't where I thought I'd put it.


Failing that, close SM and delete the .msf (index) file for the folder 
in question. When you restart SeaMonkey, it'll build a new one. If the 
message appears, you're done. If not, post back; you may be able to 
recover it manually from the file but that's complicated.


In the interim, if SM offers to compact folders, be sure to refuse. If 
it does, you'll lose all hope of recovery. And if you have it set to 
compact folders automatically without asking, disable that feature.


Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage
[ ] Compact all folders when it will save over nn MB in total

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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-26 Thread Rob Steinmetz

WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?




You can move a message from the trash to another folder.



What do they do if it isn't in the trash?

Is it an email or newsgroup message?

In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another 
folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not sure 
what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and can be 
fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an undelete before 
I tried anything else and lost the messages completely.

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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-26 Thread WaltS48

On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?




You can move a message from the trash to another folder.



What do they do if it isn't in the trash?

Is it an email or newsgroup message?

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Re: Message undelete

2017-07-26 Thread EE

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?

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You can move a message from the trash to another folder.

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Message undelete

2017-07-26 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?

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