Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-06 Thread Ray Davison

Ant wrote:


Can I do it in reversed. Since I already have v2.0.14 installed with
its installer, can I download and extract v2.3+ and then copy my old
SM2.0.14 profile into this v2.3+ folder/directory? Will it still
import my old data files (bookmarks.html, *.mab addressbooks,
histories, settings, etc.)?


Put all profiles far away from all other parts of all Mozilla products. 
 You can put them anywhere that Win has access to.  They are data, not 
apps.


To get 2.3 to use the data from your 2.0 profile, copy the 2.0 profile 
tree and name it something you will recognize as 2.3 eg 
X:\Profiles\MySM23Profile.  The first time you run 2.3 tell it to use 
the profile you just created and it will use it and update it to 2.3 level.


To always have your choice of profiles, have the app shortcut call 
something like X:\SM23\Seamonkey.exe -Profilemanager.  The first time 
you run, create a profile where you made the copy of the 2.0 profile. 
That profile will then appear on a profile menu.


Mozilla products change often.  New test versions are posted several 
times a day.  If you are waiting for it to stabilize you will have a 
long wait.  And there will be bugs.  Run as many versions as you want in 
parallel and use the one your prefer.


Ray


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-05 Thread Ant

On 9/4/2011 4:04 PM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:


Ant schrieb:

v2.3.3?! Sheesh! What is it now?


A tiny update to fix that 2.3.2 is mis-reporting the version number as
2.3.1 and also correcting more late fall-out from the DigiNotar
certificate problem.

http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/09/02/diginotar-removal-follow-up/
has more details on the latter,
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HackingForChrist/~3/2PhoKSBxsJ0/ has
pretty much the whole story.


Ah thanks. I will get that later then. I need to fix my bigger HDD 
problem. Ugh! :(

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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-04 Thread Ant

On 9/1/2011 12:36 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


Separate install is fine, you *cannot* reuse the same profile between
both versions without corruption though. 2.0.14-later should work just
fine (there have been some minor reports relating to bookmarks, but are
easily fixable) its the other direction that does not work.


Oh wow. :(


Yea, the corruption is acceptible for some users, but its not to me,
which is why I make sure to call it out when someone mentions going back
and forth in any way. It does auto-recover, *but* gets you data loss in
the end.




So My recommendation (if you have ANY intent/chance you'll revert):
* Backup your _profile_ folder
* Use help-Check for updates... download/install any update offers,
repeat.
* You should now be on 2.3.2 (reports as 2.3.1 for now) with your
working profile.


Updater tells me v2.2. Is it not out yet or do I need to wait again?


2.3.2 is out already, but the update from 2.0.14 only goes to 2.2 at
this moment, I had planned to get you updates to 2.3.1 already, but with
the chemspills this week (2.3.2/3) I'm holding back for now.

As KaiRo said, once you update to 2.2, its just another update to go to
2.3.2


Ah, so should I just get v2.3.2's full installer and skip 2.2 instead of 
wasting time to download and upgrading multiple times?

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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-04 Thread Ant

On 9/1/2011 7:44 AM PT, PhillipJones typed:


 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.


Is it possible to keep my old SM v2.0.14 (had it installed in 
d:\winstuff\SeaMonkey2\ since v2.0.0 as a clean install because of v1.x 
in another folder/directory [uninstalled last year or so) profile, and 
then make a new v2.3.2 profile to upgrade my v2.0.14 profile with 
v2.3.2's full installer (internal updater shows v2.2 and I want to save 
time with downloads and internal upgrades)?


Basically, I want to keep v2.0.14 and its old profile untouched. Install 
SM v2.3.2 in a different folder/directory and upgrade its old profile in 
a NEW profile including the old extensions and addons (if possible, or 
else I will have to redownload, reinstall, and reconfigure). I want both 
SM2 have their own profiles and locations.


I forgot to mention that this would be for Windows (32-bit Pro. SP3 and 
64-bit W7 HPE) and Debian/Linux. Let's worry about Windows first for now. ;)


Hmm, this is getting complex. :(
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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-04 Thread Zanqeutil

Ant schreef:

On 9/1/2011 7:44 AM PT, PhillipJones typed:


 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.


Is it possible to keep my old SM v2.0.14 (had it installed in
d:\winstuff\SeaMonkey2\ since v2.0.0 as a clean install because of v1.x
in another folder/directory [uninstalled last year or so) profile, and
then make a new v2.3.2 profile to upgrade my v2.0.14 profile with
v2.3.2's full installer (internal updater shows v2.2 and I want to save
time with downloads and internal upgrades)?

Basically, I want to keep v2.0.14 and its old profile untouched. Install
SM v2.3.2 in a different folder/directory and upgrade its old profile in
a NEW profile including the old extensions and addons (if possible, or
else I will have to redownload, reinstall, and reconfigure). I want both
SM2 have their own profiles and locations.

I forgot to mention that this would be for Windows (32-bit Pro. SP3 and
64-bit W7 HPE) and Debian/Linux. Let's worry about Windows first for
now. ;)

Hmm, this is getting complex. :(


You can also install Seamonkey 2.0.14 Portable and copy/move
the contents of your old SM 20.14 profile to the portable version.

Seamonkey Portable keeps the profile in it's main folder.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/SeaMonkey%20Portable/SeaMonkey%20Portable%202.0.14/

Regards,

Zanqeutil



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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-04 Thread Ant

On 9/4/2011 9:33 AM PT, Zanqeutil typed:


 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.


Is it possible to keep my old SM v2.0.14 (had it installed in
d:\winstuff\SeaMonkey2\ since v2.0.0 as a clean install because of v1.x
in another folder/directory [uninstalled last year or so) profile, and
then make a new v2.3.2 profile to upgrade my v2.0.14 profile with
v2.3.2's full installer (internal updater shows v2.2 and I want to save
time with downloads and internal upgrades)?

Basically, I want to keep v2.0.14 and its old profile untouched. Install
SM v2.3.2 in a different folder/directory and upgrade its old profile in
a NEW profile including the old extensions and addons (if possible, or
else I will have to redownload, reinstall, and reconfigure). I want both
SM2 have their own profiles and locations.

I forgot to mention that this would be for Windows (32-bit Pro. SP3 and
64-bit W7 HPE) and Debian/Linux. Let's worry about Windows first for
now. ;)

Hmm, this is getting complex. :(


You can also install Seamonkey 2.0.14 Portable and copy/move
the contents of your old SM 20.14 profile to the portable version.

Seamonkey Portable keeps the profile in it's main folder.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/SeaMonkey%20Portable/SeaMonkey%20Portable%202.0.14/


Interesting and thanks. :)
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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-04 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/4/2011 9:17 AM, Ant wrote:

On 9/1/2011 12:36 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:

So My recommendation (if you have ANY intent/chance you'll revert):
* Backup your _profile_ folder
* Use help-Check for updates... download/install any update offers,
repeat.
* You should now be on 2.3.2 (reports as 2.3.1 for now) with your
working profile.


Updater tells me v2.2. Is it not out yet or do I need to wait again?


2.3.2 is out already, but the update from 2.0.14 only goes to 2.2 at
this moment, I had planned to get you updates to 2.3.1 already, but with
the chemspills this week (2.3.2/3) I'm holding back for now.

As KaiRo said, once you update to 2.2, its just another update to go to
2.3.2


Ah, so should I just get v2.3.2's full installer and skip 2.2 instead of
wasting time to download and upgrading multiple times?


That is one way, but as of tuesday/wednesday I should have a direct 
update to 2.3.3 as well (yes 2.3.3 which is also being released tuesday).


So up to you.

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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-04 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ant schrieb:

v2.3.3?! Sheesh! What is it now?


A tiny update to fix that 2.3.2 is mis-reporting the version number as 
2.3.1 and also correcting more late fall-out from the DigiNotar 
certificate problem.


http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/09/02/diginotar-removal-follow-up/ 
has more details on the latter, 
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HackingForChrist/~3/2PhoKSBxsJ0/ has 
pretty much the whole story.


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread Ant

On 8/31/2011 9:48 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


Separate install is fine, you *cannot* reuse the same profile between
both versions without corruption though. 2.0.14-later should work just
fine (there have been some minor reports relating to bookmarks, but are
easily fixable) its the other direction that does not work.


Oh wow. :(



So My recommendation (if you have ANY intent/chance you'll revert):
* Backup your _profile_ folder
* Use help-Check for updates... download/install any update offers,
repeat.
* You should now be on 2.3.2 (reports as 2.3.1 for now) with your
working profile.


Updater tells me v2.2. Is it not out yet or do I need to wait again?



Alternatively you can install over the old location, or
uninstall/reinstall. But the profile backup is your most important step
if you want to have the option of going back to (security flawed) 2.0.14
[I don't recommend it]


That's why I prefer two different SM2 installations.
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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread Ant

On 8/31/2011 9:37 PM PT, Sailfish typed:


 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.


I don't use any themes, but do use a lot of extensions and addons:

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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ant schrieb:

Updater tells me v2.2. Is it not out yet or do I need to wait again?


Callek might not have shipped the direct major updates from 2.0.14 to 
2.3.x yet, so go to 2.2 with this, and then update once again to 2.3.2 
(which reports as 2.3.1 but is fine in every other respect).


From 2.2 to 2.3.x there's no large change, from 2.0.x to 2.2 the 
bookmarks system changed, so that's probably the largest impact and the 
place to look for potential trouble (I hope the automatic import works, 
but else you can work around it with a manual import afterwards).


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread PhillipJones

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ant graced us with on 8/31/2011
9:31 PM:

 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.



For Macintosh User out there interested in doing this.
You can't use Sailfish method.

when you want to try out a different version and keep your old version 
you can either archive the old version then download and install.


Or you can download the .dmg file (diskimage), open and Drag contents to 
the desktop. which decompress the the file. Next click on the Name so 
that the name box become active. click at end of name but before the 
.app extension and type 2.3.1 or what every the version is.  now click 
some where else on desk to to get out of editing mode.


Now open your current version not the new one.  Go to tools switch 
profile. and create a new profile.  Quit.
 now open new version and it will ask for which profile to use. Choose 
that profile and your read to use.


Quit new one

Drag a copy (option while dragging) all the bookmarks items from 
original profile to new profile.


to get to profiles Go to ~/library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/ 
Profile the original will have a random set of code numbers/characters 
(this is called salting). The new will have this as well but should also 
have the name you gave it.  Copy Bookmarks from original to the profile.


If you want to make it easy to get your profiles Drag each Profile 
folder to the Sidebar this put an alias of each on the sidebar. and you 
can just click on that to enter into the profile. X.6.8 and below.
X.7 you have to got to main menu from find and hold option key down 
which clicking on go menu to get to User Directory
~ indicate user directory and is short name you gave computer when you 
installed or set up system first time you installed system or opened 
computer when new.


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread Ray Davison

Ant wrote:

... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over
v2.0.14?


You can have as many versions of Mozilla apps as you have HDD space for. 
 Once while trying to find the date and time of a bug insertion I had 
about 20 SM versions, all using the same profile.


I don't know if there is a limit to the number of profiles you can have 
available but I have had at least six on the profile menu.


To get 2.3 to use the data from your 2.0 profile, copy the 2.0 profile 
tree and name it something you will recognize as 2.3.  The first time 
you run 2.3 tell it to use the profile you just created and it will use 
it and update it to 2.3 level.


You can also have SM 3.2 and the older versions available and have the 
older version use the bookmarks from 2.3.  Have 2.3 auto export the 
bookmarks to bookmarks.html and set 2.0 to use that file.


You have more control keeping up with Mozilla changes if you use the ZIP 
distributions rather than the EXE.


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread Sailfish
My bloviated meandering follows what PhillipJones graced us with on 
9/1/2011 7:44 AM:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ant graced us with on 8/31/2011
9:31 PM:

 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.



For Macintosh User out there interested in doing this.
You can't use Sailfish method.

when you want to try out a different version and keep your old version 
you can either archive the old version then download and install.


Or you can download the .dmg file (diskimage), open and Drag contents to 
the desktop. which decompress the the file. Next click on the Name so 
that the name box become active. click at end of name but before the 
..app extension and type 2.3.1 or what every the version is.  now click 
some where else on desk to to get out of editing mode.


Now open your current version not the new one.  Go to tools switch 
profile. and create a new profile.  Quit.
 now open new version and it will ask for which profile to use. Choose 
that profile and your read to use.


Quit new one

Drag a copy (option while dragging) all the bookmarks items from 
original profile to new profile.


to get to profiles Go to ~/library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/ 
Profile the original will have a random set of code numbers/characters 
(this is called salting). The new will have this as well but should also 
have the name you gave it.  Copy Bookmarks from original to the profile.


If you want to make it easy to get your profiles Drag each Profile 
folder to the Sidebar this put an alias of each on the sidebar. and you 
can just click on that to enter into the profile. X.6.8 and below.
X.7 you have to got to main menu from find and hold option key down 
which clicking on go menu to get to User Directory
~ indicate user directory and is short name you gave computer when you 
installed or set up system first time you installed system or opened 
computer when new.


Thanks Phil, I readily acknowledge my Mac illiteracy when it comes to 
out-of-the-ordinary installation matters.


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread PhillipJones

PhillipJones wrote:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ant graced us with on 8/31/2011
9:31 PM:

 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.



For Macintosh User out there interested in doing this.
You can't use Sailfish method.

when you want to try out a different version and keep your old version
you can either archive the old version then download and install.

Or you can download the .dmg file (diskimage), open and Drag contents to
the desktop. which decompress the the file. Next click on the Name so
that the name box become active. click at end of name but before the
.app extension and type 2.3.1 or what every the version is. now click
some where else on desk to to get out of editing mode.


I left out a step once renamed drag renamed application from desktop to 
applications directory.




Now open your current version not the new one. Go to tools switch
profile. and create a new profile. Quit.
now open new version and it will ask for which profile to use. Choose
that profile and your ready to use.

Quit new one

Drag a copy (option while dragging) all the bookmarks items from
original profile to new profile.

to get to profiles Go to ~/library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/
Profile the original will have a random set of code numbers/characters
(this is called salting). The new will have this as well but should also
have the name you gave it. Copy Bookmarks from original to the profile.

If you want to make it easy to get your profiles Drag each Profile
folder to the Sidebar this put an alias of each on the sidebar. and you
can just click on that to enter into the profile. X.6.8 and below.
X.7 you have to got to main menu from find and hold option key down
which clicking on go menu to get to User Directory
~ indicate user directory and is short name you gave computer when you
installed or set up system first time you installed system or opened
computer when new.



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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread PhillipJones

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what PhillipJones graced us with on
9/1/2011 7:44 AM:

Sailfish wrote:

My bloviated meandering follows what Ant graced us with on 8/31/2011
9:31 PM:

 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be
over v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes
you have in v2.0.14, though.



For Macintosh User out there interested in doing this.
You can't use Sailfish method.

when you want to try out a different version and keep your old version
you can either archive the old version then download and install.

Or you can download the .dmg file (diskimage), open and Drag contents
to the desktop. which decompress the the file. Next click on the Name
so that the name box become active. click at end of name but before
the ..app extension and type 2.3.1 or what every the version is. now
click some where else on desk to to get out of editing mode.

Now open your current version not the new one. Go to tools switch
profile. and create a new profile. Quit.
now open new version and it will ask for which profile to use. Choose
that profile and your read to use.

Quit new one

Drag a copy (option while dragging) all the bookmarks items from
original profile to new profile.

to get to profiles Go to ~/library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/
Profile the original will have a random set of code numbers/characters
(this is called salting). The new will have this as well but should
also have the name you gave it. Copy Bookmarks from original to the
profile.

If you want to make it easy to get your profiles Drag each Profile
folder to the Sidebar this put an alias of each on the sidebar. and
you can just click on that to enter into the profile. X.6.8 and below.
X.7 you have to got to main menu from find and hold option key down
which clicking on go menu to get to User Directory
~ indicate user directory and is short name you gave computer when you
installed or set up system first time you installed system or opened
computer when new.


Thanks Phil, I readily acknowledge my Mac illiteracy when it comes to
out-of-the-ordinary installation matters.



Some people on this list can't stand the thoughts of adding alternate 
directions for Mac. Some times to the point I feel like if they were in 
same room with me they beat me to a pulp with a 4 by 4.  Therefore I do 
it sparingly.


Mac's can use different versions at the same time as long as they are 
not named exactly the same.


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-09-01 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/1/2011 8:33 AM, Ant wrote:

On 8/31/2011 9:48 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


Separate install is fine, you *cannot* reuse the same profile between
both versions without corruption though. 2.0.14-later should work just
fine (there have been some minor reports relating to bookmarks, but are
easily fixable) its the other direction that does not work.


Oh wow. :(



Yea, the corruption is acceptible for some users, but its not to me, 
which is why I make sure to call it out when someone mentions going back 
and forth in any way. It does auto-recover, *but* gets you data loss in 
the end.





So My recommendation (if you have ANY intent/chance you'll revert):
* Backup your _profile_ folder
* Use help-Check for updates... download/install any update offers,
repeat.
* You should now be on 2.3.2 (reports as 2.3.1 for now) with your
working profile.


Updater tells me v2.2. Is it not out yet or do I need to wait again?



2.3.2 is out already, but the update from 2.0.14 only goes to 2.2 at 
this moment, I had planned to get you updates to 2.3.1 already, but with 
the chemspills this week (2.3.2/3) I'm holding back for now.


As KaiRo said, once you update to 2.2, its just another update to go to 
2.3.2


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OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-08-31 Thread Ant
... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over 
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)

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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-08-31 Thread Sailfish
My bloviated meandering follows what Ant graced us with on 8/31/2011 
9:31 PM:
 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over 
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works 
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes 
you have in v2.0.14, though.


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/1/2011 12:31 AM, Ant wrote:

... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


Separate install is fine, you *cannot* reuse the same profile between 
both versions without corruption though. 2.0.14-later should work just 
fine (there have been some minor reports relating to bookmarks, but are 
easily fixable) its the other direction that does not work.


So My recommendation (if you have ANY intent/chance you'll revert):
* Backup your _profile_ folder
* Use help-Check for updates...  download/install any update offers, 
repeat.
* You should now be on 2.3.2 (reports as 2.3.1 for now) with your 
working profile.


Alternatively you can install over the old location, or 
uninstall/reinstall. But the profile backup is your most important step 
if you want to have the option of going back to (security flawed) 2.0.14 
[I don't recommend it]


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