Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

On Sunday, 14 June 2020 20:48:53 UTC+1, Gerry Hickman  wrote:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> > rt.com works in 2.57. Just checked briefly but not sure which feature it 
> > needs. Need to look if I find something.
> 
> He's talking about comments on the page
> 
> https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/
> 
> When you say 2.57, you mean SeaMonkey 2.57, is that a new unofficial 
> release?
> 
> 
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I'll just have to wait until 2.57.  Grrr.

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

On Sunday, 14 June 2020 08:48:21 UTC+1, Don Spam's Reckless Son  wrote:
> andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:34:16 UTC+1, Don Spam's Reckless Son  wrote:
> >> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> >>> andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
>  Hello Gerry,
> 
>  It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.
> 
>  Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.
> 
>  Try this page:
> 
>  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity
> 
> 
>  Same type of problem?
> 
>  Andy Staszko
> 
> >>>
> >>> Definitely not.
> >>> I can read comments on the Grauniad, I can post comments on the
> >>> Grauniad.  That includes the link you provided, not that I bothered
> >>> posting there.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ditto under 2.53.2, I can read and I can post.  You can't post unless
> >> you are signed in.
> >> I may be wrong on this but you might have to update your add-ons after
> >> updating.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/
> > 
> > Gof knows what the problem is then. I don't have any add-ons installed and 
> > I've disabled most of the extensions extensions.
> > 
> > Andy Staszko
> > 
> 
> Right back at the start you said:
> > Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.
> 
> Now, does this mean you are using Windows?  Which version?  Did you have 
> the 32-bit or the 64-bit of 2.49.5 installed?  Is your new version 
> 32-bit or 64-bit?  Did you do a proper install or just overwrite things?
> Yes - I think there is something wrong with the way you upgraded.
> I'd tend to uninstall the old version, check that it is really gone and 
> then install the new version.
> That suggestion does assume Windows.  Win XP is no longer supported, not 
> sure about Vista.  You are posting via Google Groups, otherwise we could 
> see the version information in the headers.
> 
> -- 
> spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 with all important updates applied before end 
of support.
Ran Seamonkey 2.49.5 32bit then migrated to 2.49.5 64bit - uninstalled 2.49.5 
32bit.

Uninstalled 2.49.5 64bit.
Installed 2.53.2 via zip file with clean install directory 'cos install exe 
installed itself in user/appdata...blah...blah.
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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
rt.com works in 2.57. Just checked briefly but not sure which feature it 
needs. Need to look if I find something.


He's talking about comments on the page

https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/

When you say 2.57, you mean SeaMonkey 2.57, is that a new unofficial release?




Yes the comments work in 2.57. It is the next planned major release after 
2.53.x but don't hold your breath yet. Still too broken now for general usage.


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
rt.com works in 2.57. Just checked briefly but not sure which feature it 
needs. Need to look if I find something.


He's talking about comments on the page

https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/

When you say 2.57, you mean SeaMonkey 2.57, is that a new unofficial 
release?



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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:34:16 UTC+1, Don Spam's Reckless Son  wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Gerry,

It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.

Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.

Try this page:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity


Same type of problem?

Andy Staszko



Definitely not.
I can read comments on the Grauniad, I can post comments on the
Grauniad.  That includes the link you provided, not that I bothered
posting there.



Ditto under 2.53.2, I can read and I can post.  You can't post unless
you are signed in.
I may be wrong on this but you might have to update your add-ons after
updating.

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Gof knows what the problem is then. I don't have any add-ons installed and I've 
disabled most of the extensions extensions.

Andy Staszko



Right back at the start you said:

Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.


Now, does this mean you are using Windows?  Which version?  Did you have 
the 32-bit or the 64-bit of 2.49.5 installed?  Is your new version 
32-bit or 64-bit?  Did you do a proper install or just overwrite things?

Yes - I think there is something wrong with the way you upgraded.
I'd tend to uninstall the old version, check that it is really gone and 
then install the new version.
That suggestion does assume Windows.  Win XP is no longer supported, not 
sure about Vista.  You are posting via Google Groups, otherwise we could 
see the version information in the headers.


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

On Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:34:16 UTC+1, Don Spam's Reckless Son  wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> > andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Hello Gerry,
> >>
> >> It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.
> >>
> >> Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.
> >>
> >> Try this page:
> >>
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >> Same type of problem?
> >>
> >> Andy Staszko
> >>
> > 
> > Definitely not.
> > I can read comments on the Grauniad, I can post comments on the 
> > Grauniad.  That includes the link you provided, not that I bothered 
> > posting there.
> > 
> 
> Ditto under 2.53.2, I can read and I can post.  You can't post unless 
> you are signed in.
> I may be wrong on this but you might have to update your add-ons after 
> updating.
> 
> -- 
> spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/

Gof knows what the problem is then. I don't have any add-ons installed and I've 
disabled most of the extensions extensions.

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Gerry,

It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.

Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.

Try this page:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity 



Same type of problem?

Andy Staszko



Definitely not.
I can read comments on the Grauniad, I can post comments on the 
Grauniad.  That includes the link you provided, not that I bothered 
posting there.




Ditto under 2.53.2, I can read and I can post.  You can't post unless 
you are signed in.
I may be wrong on this but you might have to update your add-ons after 
updating.


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Gerry,

It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.

Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.

Try this page:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity

Same type of problem?

Andy Staszko



Definitely not.
I can read comments on the Grauniad, I can post comments on the 
Grauniad.  That includes the link you provided, not that I bothered 
posting there.


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Gerry,

It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.

Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.

Try this page:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity

Same type of problem?

Andy Staszko



rt.com works in 2.57. Just checked briefly but not sure which feature it 
needs. Need to look if I find something.


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

Hello Gerry,

It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.

Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.

Try this page:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity

Same type of problem?

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/11/2020 9:19 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


btw, when I saw "rt" I first thought of the Radio Times. Maybe not.


RT = Radio Times

Heh.



The domain www.rt.com is owned by ANO "TV-Novosti", a Russia-based news
service funded by the Russian government.


I liked the Radio Times idea, but yes it's funded by Russia, but I've 
never seen any Russian propaganda; it seems to be mainly US commentators 
talking about the US.


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

On Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:42:53 UTC+1, Gerry Hickman  wrote:
> andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/
> > 
> > at the time 08:02 BST there were 47 posts.
> 
> OK, it works in FireFox, but not in SeaMonkey
> 
> The comments come from a site called spot.im
> 
> When Seamonkey makes the request to spot.im, it gets this error
> 
> Timestamp: 11/06/2020, 17:37:22 GMT+1
> Error: TypeError: t.composedPath is not a function
> Source File: 
> https://static-cdn.spot.im/production/conversation/tags/v3.14.48/conversation-bundle.js
> Line: 1
> 
> I've only ever seen that site with NoScript enabled, and I can't believe 
> how much junk suddenly appeared when I had to test it just now with 
> NoScript disabled.
> 
> -- 
> Gerry Hickman (London UK)

Hello Gerry,

I've just looked at the page:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Event/composedPath

and it does seem to be defined unless "t" is not an Event object and it would 
seem that it should work in Seamonkey but doesn't.

Something wrong Seamonkeys' javascript engine?

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

On Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:42:53 UTC+1, Gerry Hickman  wrote:
> andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/
> > 
> > at the time 08:02 BST there were 47 posts.
> 
> OK, it works in FireFox, but not in SeaMonkey
> 
> The comments come from a site called spot.im
> 
> When Seamonkey makes the request to spot.im, it gets this error
> 
> Timestamp: 11/06/2020, 17:37:22 GMT+1
> Error: TypeError: t.composedPath is not a function
> Source File: 
> https://static-cdn.spot.im/production/conversation/tags/v3.14.48/conversation-bundle.js
> Line: 1
> 
> I've only ever seen that site with NoScript enabled, and I can't believe 
> how much junk suddenly appeared when I had to test it just now with 
> NoScript disabled.
> 
> -- 
> Gerry Hickman (London UK)

Hi Jerry,

I have just realised the meaning of the error. It is referring to a bug in the 
JS source file. The source file is trying to use a function member that does 
not exist for the type of object that "t" is.
So there is no solution at all.
But why then does Firefox display it correctly?

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

On Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:42:53 UTC+1, Gerry Hickman  wrote:
> andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/
> > 
> > at the time 08:02 BST there were 47 posts.
> 
> OK, it works in FireFox, but not in SeaMonkey
> 
> The comments come from a site called spot.im
> 
> When Seamonkey makes the request to spot.im, it gets this error
> 
> Timestamp: 11/06/2020, 17:37:22 GMT+1
> Error: TypeError: t.composedPath is not a function
> Source File: 
> https://static-cdn.spot.im/production/conversation/tags/v3.14.48/conversation-bundle.js
> Line: 1
> 
> I've only ever seen that site with NoScript enabled, and I can't believe 
> how much junk suddenly appeared when I had to test it just now with 
> NoScript disabled.
> 
> -- 
> Gerry Hickman (London UK)

Hello Gerry,

So the fault has been identified. Is it a Seamonkey bug?
Doesn't Seamonkey use the same or similar runtime engine as Firefox?
Is there a temporary solution?
Is there a proper fix?

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

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On 6/11/2020 9:19 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> 
>> btw, when I saw "rt" I first thought of the Radio Times. Maybe not.
> 
> RT = Radio Times
> 
> Heh.
> 

The domain www.rt.com is owned by ANO "TV-Novosti", a Russia-based news
service funded by the Russian government.

See .  One paragraph
there states (footnotes deleted here):
> RT has been described as a propaganda outlet for the Russian
> government and its foreign policy.  RT has also been accused of
> spreading disinformation by news reporters, including some former RT
> reporters.  The UK media regulator,  Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT
> to have breached its rules on impartiality and on one occasion found
> it had broadcast "materially misleading" content.  RT's
> editor-in-chief compared it with the Russian Army and Defence
> Ministry and talked about it "waging the information war against the
> entire Western world."  In September 2017, RT America was ordered to
> register as a "foreign agent" with the United States Department of
> Justice under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Under the act, RT
> is required to disclose financial information to the U.S.  

-- 
David E. Ross


Who would you trust to provide accurate information about
COVID-19?  Doctors who have studied viruses and treated
patients for years?  Or a TV actor who tweets "cofefe"?
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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:


https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/

at the time 08:02 BST there were 47 posts.


OK, it works in FireFox, but not in SeaMonkey

The comments come from a site called spot.im

When Seamonkey makes the request to spot.im, it gets this error

Timestamp: 11/06/2020, 17:37:22 GMT+1
Error: TypeError: t.composedPath is not a function
Source File: 
https://static-cdn.spot.im/production/conversation/tags/v3.14.48/conversation-bundle.js

Line: 1

I've only ever seen that site with NoScript enabled, and I can't believe 
how much junk suddenly appeared when I had to test it just now with 
NoScript disabled.


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


btw, when I saw "rt" I first thought of the Radio Times. Maybe not.


RT = Radio Times

Heh.

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

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andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, 10 June 2020 17:32:41 UTC+1, Gerry Hickman  wrote:

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.

Now I cannot see comments posted to pages from RT.

Anyone else seeing this?


Can you give the exact URL of page that has comments, but are not showing?


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Try this one:

https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/

at the time 08:02 BST there were 47 posts.

Andy Staszko (Leeds UK)



I'm browsing in Private Mode and can't see any comments on that page, or 
even where they would be.

- Are they only shown if you are signed in? (via Facebook?)
- An alternative theory would be that they have just changed their 
javascripts and forgotten Seamonkey, although it would be a coincidence 
(NO, A CONSPIRACY) that this happened just when you moved up a level.

btw, when I saw "rt" I first thought of the Radio Times. Maybe not.

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

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On Wednesday, 10 June 2020 17:32:41 UTC+1, Gerry Hickman  wrote:
> andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.
> > 
> > Now I cannot see comments posted to pages from RT.
> > 
> > Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Can you give the exact URL of page that has comments, but are not showing?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gerry Hickman (London UK)

Try this one:

https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/

at the time 08:02 BST there were 47 posts.

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

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On Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:03:45 UTC+1, andy@gmail.com  wrote:
> Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.
> 
> Now I cannot see comments posted to pages from RT.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Andy Staszko

I should add that the page displays perfectly in Chrome (yuck!).

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.

Now I cannot see comments posted to pages from RT.

Anyone else seeing this?


Can you give the exact URL of page that has comments, but are not showing?


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Page display on www.rt.com

[andy . staszko]

Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.

Now I cannot see comments posted to pages from RT.

Anyone else seeing this?

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