Re: 2.19 is here

[Rufus]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-07-03 12:18 AM, Rufus wrote:

and apparently none of the OS X interface or Profile Manager issues
have been addressed either.  Nor has the short draw of the Master
Password dropdown.


Instead of checking every release to see if your pet issue it fixed, the
best thing to do is search for the bug report(s) in bugzilla. If the bug
isn't marked as fixed, assume the latest release still has the bug.


I also do that...the very first thing I do is check the release notes. 
That's how I know so fast.  My primary goal is to insure they're not 
forgotten...even though they continue to be overlooked/ignored.  Big 
disappointment that the targeted release for one of my pet bug fixes has 
long since come and passed...I have no idea what the team is working on, 
but it's nothing visible to a user.


The fact that these bugs now compound upon each other keeps me holding 
at 2.13.2 on the machines I use the most - and if I reverted to 1.1.19 
I'd only have to deal with *one* of them.


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Re: 2.19 is here

[Rufus]

MCBastos wrote:

Well, after a longer-than-usual interval, the new Seamonkey version
arrived. It generally seems to work fine as usual. However...

1. Enigmail apparently has not caught up yet. It's probably just a
matter of a day or two until they release a 2.19-compatible version.
Still, if you depend on encrypted/authenticated e-mail, you might with
to wait.

2. The release notes for 2.18 (it would have been nice to see them
included, or at least linked, in the 2.19 release notes -- after all,
there was no general release with that particular set of changes...)
mentions an experimental Private Browsing mode. How do I find it?

3. Since I'm mentioning the release notes, there's some wording there
that should have been fixed a long time ago. Where it is written

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with this or any later version
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...

It should really be written:

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with any version later than 2.1
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...

4. As long as I'm airing old petty annoyances... why does SM asks me to
re-register as default e-mail program every time I update it? It doesn't
seem to be necessary for the other default behaviors I assign it, such
as default browser and such.




...and apparently none of the OS X interface or Profile Manager issues 
have been addressed either.  Nor has the short draw of the Master 
Password dropdown.


I'll use it on my Macbook Pro only because I don't use that machine much 
and like to keep track of the issues...but on the machines I use the 
most I'm sticking with 2.13.2.


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Re: 2.19 is here

[Pugilares]

MCBastos wrote:

Well, after a longer-than-usual interval, the new Seamonkey version
arrived. It generally seems to work fine as usual. However...


"Busy" cursor in news reader is still there. They say that the bug will 
be fixed in 2.21 :-)


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Re: 2.19 is here

[Jens Hatlak]

sean nathan wrote:

2. The release notes for 2.18 (it would have been nice to see them
included, or at least linked, in the 2.19 release notes -- after all,
there was no general release with that particular set of changes...)


They are linked: "relative to _SeaMonkey 2.18_" (both from the main page 
and Changes page).



mentions an experimental Private Browsing mode. How do I find it?


Under File/New, the context menu for links, and about:privatebrowsing.


3. Since I'm mentioning the release notes, there's some wording there
that should have been fixed a long time ago. Where it is written

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with this or any later version
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...

It should really be written:

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with any version later than 2.1
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...


Hmm, not a grave issue, but if you think it should have been fixed long 
ago you should have mentioned it long ago, no? ;-)


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: 2.19 is here

[Noob42]

MCBastos wrote:

> Well, after a longer-than-usual interval, the new Seamonkey version 
> arrived. It generally seems to work fine as usual. However...
> 
> 1. Enigmail apparently has not caught up yet. It's probably just a 
> matter of a day or two until they release a 2.19-compatible version. 
> Still, if you depend on encrypted/authenticated e-mail, you might with 
> to wait.

http://www.enigmail.net/download/changelog.php#enig1.5.2

> 
> 2. The release notes for 2.18 (it would have been nice to see them 
> included, or at least linked, in the 2.19 release notes -- after all, 
> there was no general release with that particular set of changes...)

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.18/

> mentions an experimental Private Browsing mode. How do I find it?

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/private-browsing-browse-web-without-saving-info

File > New > Private Window

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Re: 2.19 is here

[Robert Kaiser]

MCBastos schrieb:

2. The release notes for 2.18


I still find it funny that we have and link *release* notes for 
something that wasn't *released* after all... ;-)


Robert Kaiser

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Re: 2.19 is here

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-07-03 12:18 AM, Rufus wrote:

and apparently none of the OS X interface or Profile Manager issues
have been addressed either.  Nor has the short draw of the Master
Password dropdown.


Instead of checking every release to see if your pet issue it fixed, the 
best thing to do is search for the bug report(s) in bugzilla. If the bug 
isn't marked as fixed, assume the latest release still has the bug.

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Re: 2.19 is here

[Cruz, Jaime]

Pugilares wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Well, after a longer-than-usual interval, the new Seamonkey version
arrived. It generally seems to work fine as usual. However...


"Busy" cursor in news reader is still there. They say that the bug will
be fixed in 2.21 :-)



It's not reporting the update is available yet on Linux.  It updated 
fine on Windows, though.


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Re: 2.19 is here

[Rufus]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-07-03 8:03 PM, Rufus wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-07-03 12:18 AM, Rufus wrote:

and apparently none of the OS X interface or Profile Manager issues
have been addressed either.  Nor has the short draw of the Master
Password dropdown.


Instead of checking every release to see if your pet issue it fixed, the
best thing to do is search for the bug report(s) in bugzilla. If the bug
isn't marked as fixed, assume the latest release still has the bug.


I also do that...the very first thing I do is check the release notes.
That's how I know so fast.


You don't need to check the release notes. CC yourself on the bug, and
when it gets fixed, you'll get an email. You can then find out when the
fix will appear in an end-user release. That way you don't have to any
other users every new release. ;)



That's another way I know - I was getting status updates as people were 
looking into the problems, and haven't been for some time.


I still like to read the release notes, though - sometimes I find *new* 
broken things in them!


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Re: 2.19 is here

[W3BNR]

On 7/2/2013 11:46 PM MCBastos submitted the following:
> Well, after a longer-than-usual interval, the new Seamonkey version
> arrived. It generally seems to work fine as usual. However...
> 
> 1. Enigmail apparently has not caught up yet. It's probably just a
> matter of a day or two until they release a 2.19-compatible version.
> Still, if you depend on encrypted/authenticated e-mail, you might with
> to wait.


I have been using enig1.6a1pre with SM 2.19b2 and 2.19 without any
problems that I know of.

> 
> 2. The release notes for 2.18 (it would have been nice to see them
> included, or at least linked, in the 2.19 release notes -- after all,
> there was no general release with that particular set of changes...)
> mentions an experimental Private Browsing mode. How do I find it?
> 
> 3. Since I'm mentioning the release notes, there's some wording there
> that should have been fixed a long time ago. Where it is written
> 
> "Data loss warning: If you use a profile with this or any later version
> and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...
> 
> It should really be written:
> 
> "Data loss warning: If you use a profile with any version later than 2.1
> and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...
> 
> 4. As long as I'm airing old petty annoyances... why does SM asks me to
> re-register as default e-mail program every time I update it? It doesn't
> seem to be necessary for the other default behaviors I assign it, such
> as default browser and such.
> 
> 

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Re: 2.19 is here

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-07-03 8:03 PM, Rufus wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-07-03 12:18 AM, Rufus wrote:

and apparently none of the OS X interface or Profile Manager issues
have been addressed either.  Nor has the short draw of the Master
Password dropdown.


Instead of checking every release to see if your pet issue it fixed, the
best thing to do is search for the bug report(s) in bugzilla. If the bug
isn't marked as fixed, assume the latest release still has the bug.


I also do that...the very first thing I do is check the release notes.
That's how I know so fast.


You don't need to check the release notes. CC yourself on the bug, and 
when it gets fixed, you'll get an email. You can then find out when the 
fix will appear in an end-user release. That way you don't have to any 
other users every new release. ;)


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Re: 2.19 is here

[sean nathan]

MCBastos wrote:

Well, after a longer-than-usual interval, the new Seamonkey version
arrived. It generally seems to work fine as usual. However...

1. Enigmail apparently has not caught up yet. It's probably just a
matter of a day or two until they release a 2.19-compatible version.
Still, if you depend on encrypted/authenticated e-mail, you might with
to wait.

2. The release notes for 2.18 (it would have been nice to see them
included, or at least linked, in the 2.19 release notes -- after all,
there was no general release with that particular set of changes...)
mentions an experimental Private Browsing mode. How do I find it?

3. Since I'm mentioning the release notes, there's some wording there
that should have been fixed a long time ago. Where it is written

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with this or any later version
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...

It should really be written:

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with any version later than 2.1
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...

4. As long as I'm airing old petty annoyances... why does SM asks me to
re-register as default e-mail program every time I update it? It doesn't
seem to be necessary for the other default behaviors I assign it, such
as default browser and such.




the linux version picks up right where the last install picks up right 
where my previous install left off... assuming all these are still 
default...


sean


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Re: 2.19 is here

[A Williams]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

MCBastos schrieb:

2. The release notes for 2.18


I still find it funny that we have and link *release* notes for
something that wasn't *released* after all... ;-)

Robert Kaiser



The Release Notes also reference Beta versions.  2.18 was a Gamma version.
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Re: 2.19 is here

[Daniel]

A Williams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

MCBastos schrieb:

2. The release notes for 2.18


I still find it funny that we have and link *release* notes for
something that wasn't *released* after all... ;-)

Robert Kaiser



The Release Notes also reference Beta versions.  2.18 was a Gamma version.


"Gamma"!!  Is that the new "Release Candidate?? ;-)

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Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 Build identifier: 20130625002157

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Re: 2.19 is here

[Philip Chee]

On 06/07/2013 23:35, A Williams wrote:
> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>> MCBastos schrieb:
>>> 2. The release notes for 2.18
>>
>> I still find it funny that we have and link *release* notes for
>> something that wasn't *released* after all... ;-)
>>
>> Robert Kaiser
>>
> 
> The Release Notes also reference Beta versions.  2.18 was a Gamma version.
Epsilon
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Re: 2.19 is here

[sean nathan]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

sean nathan wrote:

2. The release notes for 2.18 (it would have been nice to see them
included, or at least linked, in the 2.19 release notes -- after all,
there was no general release with that particular set of changes...)


They are linked: "relative to _SeaMonkey 2.18_" (both from the main page
and Changes page).


mentions an experimental Private Browsing mode. How do I find it?


Under File/New, the context menu for links, and about:privatebrowsing.


3. Since I'm mentioning the release notes, there's some wording there
that should have been fixed a long time ago. Where it is written

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with this or any later version
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...

It should really be written:

"Data loss warning: If you use a profile with any version later than 2.1
and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0,"...


Hmm, not a grave issue, but if you think it should have been fixed long
ago you should have mentioned it long ago, no? ;-)

Greetings,

Jens


i must have been drunk or high on something which made me fail to 
proofread and clarify my prior post...


i meant to say i had 2.19 picked up and ran along just fine where my 
prior version left off... i lost no data, and i did NOT have to 
re-register anything...


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