Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


Frank-Rainer Grahl a tapoté le 10/05/2020 13:39:

Yamo' wrote:

Add-ons Manager - Version Number/1.5


Works fine here. One of my few essential add-ons.


Same version?




Yes.

https://imgur.com/a/10xXZzm

2.53.3b1 pre but works fine in 2.53.2 too.

FRG
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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Yamo']

Hi,


Frank-Rainer Grahl a tapoté le 10/05/2020 13:39:
> Yamo' wrote:
>> Add-ons Manager - Version Number/1.5
> 
> Works fine here. One of my few essential add-ons.

Same version?


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[EE]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Holger wrote:

Yamo' schrieb:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.



Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.



It it was/is the language pack should be fixed in 2.53.4. Actually 
2.53.3 but given that the 2.53.2 language packs have the wrong max 
version the fix will only be effective in 2.53.4.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635413

FRG
If the problem is only the wrong max version in the installer, that is 
easy to fix.  Just edit the max version in install.rdf.


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


It it was/is the language pack should be fixed in 2.53.4. Actually 2.53.3 
but given that the 2.53.2 language packs have the wrong max version the fix 
will only be effective in 2.53.4.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635413


It looks like the language pack is a good contender.  I've just upgraded from 
2.53.1 to 2.53.2 myself and had the same thing happen.  With the 2.53.1 en-GB 
language pack installed, the browser window showed the toolbar but no menus 
and the content area was grey.


Had to start in safe mode to install the updated 2.53.2 en-GB langpack. All 
was then fine restarting in normal mode.  For anyone not aware, updated 
language packs can be downloaded from 
.


Should this be added to the release notes?  Or is this what is described under 
known issues as:
Previous versions of Language Packs should be removed or disabled otherwise 
XML errors will be shown instead of parts of the application.


I didn't see any XML errors - just no menus and no content.

It sounds like the same thing is likely to happen on upgrade from 2.53.2 to 
2.53.3 if I've understood correctly?




Yes. We can rerelease the 2.53.2 language packs but probably too late. So best 
to disable them before the upgrade to 2.53.3. I will see that it goes into the 
2.53.3 releases notes. Unless you have a specifix need to switch languages I 
would alsways go with the full installer.


FRG


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Yamo' wrote:

Add-ons Manager - Version Number/1.5


Works fine here. One of my few essential add-ons.

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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Yamo']

Hi,


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 09/05/2020 18:14:
> Something in the profile then.  Now the challenge is working out what ;o)

No restart witout any addons, dictionaries...

Work (at this time) with :

Extensions
--

 ChatZilla/0.9.95
 Emoji Menu/2.0.0.0.0.1
 Lightning/5.8.2
 Mnenhy/0.8.6.1-stanio
 Nostalgy/0.2.36
 uBlock Origin/1.16.4.20
 Smiley Fixer/1.4.3
 En-têtes HTTP en direct/0.17.1-signed.1-signed
 User Agent Switcher/0.7.3.1-signed.1-signed
 FxIF/0.4.9.1
 Bluhell Firewall/2.6.4

I may have forgotten some addons.

Maybe that was this one which doesn't work with Seamonkey 2.53.2 (I
cann't activate it) :
Add-ons Manager - Version Number/1.5

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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Holger wrote:

Yamo' schrieb:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.



Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.



It it was/is the language pack should be fixed in 2.53.4. Actually 
2.53.3 but given that the 2.53.2 language packs have the wrong max 
version the fix will only be effective in 2.53.4.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635413


It looks like the language pack is a good contender.  I've just upgraded 
from 2.53.1 to 2.53.2 myself and had the same thing happen.  With the 
2.53.1 en-GB language pack installed, the browser window showed the 
toolbar but no menus and the content area was grey.


Had to start in safe mode to install the updated 2.53.2 en-GB langpack. 
All was then fine restarting in normal mode.  For anyone not aware, 
updated language packs can be downloaded from 
.


Should this be added to the release notes?  Or is this what is described 
under known issues as:

Previous versions of Language Packs should be removed or disabled otherwise XML 
errors will be shown instead of parts of the application.


I didn't see any XML errors - just no menus and no content.

It sounds like the same thing is likely to happen on upgrade from 2.53.2 
to 2.53.3 if I've understood correctly?


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Holger wrote:

Yamo' schrieb:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.



Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.



It it was/is the language pack should be fixed in 2.53.4. Actually 2.53.3 but 
given that the 2.53.2 language packs have the wrong max version the fix will 
only be effective in 2.53.4.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635413

FRG
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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Holger]

Yamo' schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
> during the upgrade...
> 
> Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.
> 
> 
> How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).
> 
> 
> I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.
> 

Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.

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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

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Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 09/05/2020 16:31:

Yamo' wrote:




It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey
2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons
Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey
windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.



Sorry, I've totally forgotten the "--safe-mode" !
With this argument it's working!

Many thanks!


Something in the profile then.  Now the challenge is working out what ;o)


Check the release notes at
 - they
mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important
detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.

Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring
your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you
might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate
version and start once with that version to update your profile to that
state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks
like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become
necessary!


I sometimes backup it but not daily...


Backing up the profile before any upgrade of SeaMonkey is strongly 
recommended.  It's quite common (more common than is usually noticed) 
for the format of files in the profile to change from one version to the 
next.  A newer version will upgrade the profile to the newer format when 
first used, but having done so older versions will no longer be able to 
correctly use that profile.  So if you encounter problems with the new 
version, it might not be possible to go back to the previous version if 
you don't have a backup of the profile from before the upgrade.  I'm not 
aware of any such issues between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2, but doesn't hurt to 
be cautious.



I was upgrading from 2.53.1.

I will find the bad addon or bad users.css or something else...


I wouldn't expect issues with add-ons between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2 but, 
since it's an easy check, the first thing I'd try is to just disable all 
the add-ons via the add-ons manager, start normally and see if the issue 
persists.  If that fixes it, you can re-enable the add-ons a few at a 
time (restart SeaMonkey each time) to narrow down which it is.


The release notes mention some changes to scrollbar styling and some of 
the dialogs between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2, so not sure if that might have an 
impact on custom CSS.


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 09/05/2020 16:31:

Yamo' wrote:




It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey
2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons
Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey
windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.



Sorry, I've totally forgotten the "--safe-mode" !
With this argument it's working!

Many thanks!



Check the release notes at
 - they
mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important
detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.

Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring
your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you
might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate
version and start once with that version to update your profile to that
state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks
like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become
necessary!


I sometimes backup it but not daily...

I was upgrading from 2.53.1.

I will find the bad addon or bad users.css or something else...




There should be no difficulties between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2.
I'd even expect dropping from the higher level to the lower level to 
work but that would need further analysis, on the other hand the two 
levels are so similar that a fallback could well not make any difference.


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Yamo']

Hi,


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 09/05/2020 16:31:
> Yamo' wrote:


> It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey 
> 2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons 
> Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey 
> windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.


Sorry, I've totally forgotten the "--safe-mode" !
With this argument it's working!

Many thanks!


> Check the release notes at 
>  - they 
> mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important 
> detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.
> 
> Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from 
> SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring 
> your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you 
> might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate 
> version and start once with that version to update your profile to that 
> state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks 
> like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become 
> necessary!

I sometimes backup it but not daily...

I was upgrading from 2.53.1.

I will find the bad addon or bad users.css or something else...


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.


It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey 
2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons 
Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey 
windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.


Check the release notes at 
 - they 
mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important 
detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.


Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from 
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring 
your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you 
might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate 
version and start once with that version to update your profile to that 
state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks 
like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become 
necessary!


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Yamo' wrote:

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...


You need to clarify what you mean by "upgrade"?
I thought the install process on Linux was just to extract the x64 
binaries, so the upgrade process would be:


1. Write down the profile location
2. Back up the profile
3. Back up the old SeaMonkey binaries
4. Extract the new SeaMonkey binaries


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