Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Ed Mullen]

Jay O'Brien wrote:

When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an incoming message 
and click on a link in that message, it displays the referred page on top of 
the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and then the referred page goes 
behind the Mail and Newsgroups page. Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail 
and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred to page 
is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears completely behind 
the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the page from 
which I click on a link. I suspect I have something configured wrong, I would 
like some help. Please?

Thanks,

Jay O'Brien
Folsom, CA


Please state:

Vesion of SeaMonky

OS/platform and version


We are mind readers here but all of our crystal ball batteries have died.

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[NoOp]

On 11/29/2013 09:20 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Jay O'Brien wrote:
>> When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an incoming 
>> message and click on a link in that message, it displays the referred page 
>> on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and then the referred 
>> page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page. Subsequent lookups stay on 
>> top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>
>> This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred to 
>> page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears completely 
>> behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>
>> I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the page 
>> from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something configured wrong, I 
>> would like some help. Please?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jay O'Brien
>> Folsom, CA
> 
> Please state:
> 
> Vesion of SeaMonky
> 
> OS/platform and version
> 
> 
> We are mind readers here but all of our crystal ball batteries have died.
> 

His UA string is:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Daniel]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:

When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an
incoming message and click on a link in that message, it displays the
referred page on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and
then the referred page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred
to page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears
completely behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the
page from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something
configured wrong, I would like some help. Please?

Thanks,

Jay O'Brien
Folsom, CA


Please state:

Vesion of SeaMonky

OS/platform and version


We are mind readers here but all of our crystal ball batteries have died.


Ed, you're right that the OS and SM version are useful bits of 
information that it's helpful to know, which is why I have my SM set up 
so that in the Header of each message I read, it displays the User-Agent.


In about:config, try setting mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to True

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953

or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jay O'Brien wrote:


When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an
incoming message and click on a link in that message, it displays the
referred page on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and
then the referred page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred
to page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears
completely behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the
page from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something
configured wrong, I would like some help. Please?


Sounds like the Flash protected mode issue.



Read the rationale first, then try the fix under the heading "Disabling 
Protected Mode in Flash 11.3."


If that doesn't solve it, write back.

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Ed Mullen]

NoOp wrote:

On 11/29/2013 09:20 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:

When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an incoming message 
and click on a link in that message, it displays the referred page on top of 
the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and then the referred page goes 
behind the Mail and Newsgroups page. Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail 
and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred to page 
is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears completely behind 
the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the page from 
which I click on a link. I suspect I have something configured wrong, I would 
like some help. Please?

Thanks,

Jay O'Brien
Folsom, CA


Please state:

Vesion of SeaMonky

OS/platform and version


We are mind readers here but all of our crystal ball batteries have died.



His UA string is:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22



Yes, on the computer he used to make his post.  No telling for sure if 
that's the problem machine or not.  I've got four here, 3 different 
OSes.  Hence, explicitly stating the info in his message would guarntee 
we know what's going on.


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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Jay O'Brien]

On 11/29/2013 9:20 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Jay O'Brien wrote:
>> When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an incoming 
>> message and click on a link in that message, it displays the referred page 
>> on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and then the referred 
>> page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page. Subsequent lookups stay on 
>> top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>
>> This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred to 
>> page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears completely 
>> behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>
>> I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the page 
>> from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something configured wrong, I 
>> would like some help. Please?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jay O'Brien
>> Folsom, CA
> 
> Please state:
> 
> Vesion of SeaMonky
> 
> OS/platform and version
> 
> 
> We are mind readers here but all of our crystal ball batteries have died.
> 

Sorry I didn't include this info in my original post: 
SeaMonkey 2.22, Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium SP1

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[goodwin]

On 11/30/2013 08:22 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:


Hence, explicitly stating the info in his message would guarntee we know
what's going on.


guarantee?

helpful, no doubt,  but I'd be loath to say guarantee in computer 
assistance...

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Jay O'Brien]

On 11/30/2013 3:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Jay O'Brien wrote:
> 
>> When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an
>> incoming message and click on a link in that message, it displays the
>> referred page on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and
>> then the referred page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>> Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>
>> This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred
>> to page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears
>> completely behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>
>> I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the
>> page from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something
>> configured wrong, I would like some help. Please?
> 
> Sounds like the Flash protected mode issue.
> 
> 
> 
> Read the rationale first, then try the fix under the heading "Disabling 
> Protected Mode in Flash 11.3."
> 
> If that doesn't solve it, write back.

Paul, Thank you, that fixed the problem. Whew.

Paul or anyone: What are the unintended consequences of disabling 
Flash Protected mode by adding 'ProtectedMode=0' to the file 
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\mms.cfg?

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Lee]

On 11/30/13, Jay O'Brien  wrote:
> On 11/30/2013 3:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Jay O'Brien wrote:
>>
>>> When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an
>>> incoming message and click on a link in that message, it displays the
>>> referred page on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and
>>> then the referred page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>> Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>>
>>> This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred
>>> to page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears
>>> completely behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
>>>
>>> I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the
>>> page from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something
>>> configured wrong, I would like some help. Please?
>>
>> Sounds like the Flash protected mode issue.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Read the rationale first, then try the fix under the heading "Disabling
>> Protected Mode in Flash 11.3."
>>
>> If that doesn't solve it, write back.
>
> Paul, Thank you, that fixed the problem. Whew.
>
> Paul or anyone: What are the unintended consequences of disabling
> Flash Protected mode by adding 'ProtectedMode=0' to the file
> C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\mms.cfg?

I'd guess makes it easier for malware to take over your machine.

http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2012/06/inside-flash-player-protected-mode-for-firefox.html
  Overall, the Flash Player sandbox process has been a journey of
incremental improvements with each step bringing end-users a more
secure environment. We started by supporting Protected Mode within
Internet Explorer, which enabled Flash Player to run as a low
integrity process with limited write capabilities. From there, we
worked with Google on building the Chrome sandbox, which converted
Flash Player to using a more robust broker implementation. This
release of Flash Player Protected Mode for Firefox on Windows takes
the Chrome implementation one step further by changing Flash Player to
run with job limits on the process. With Flash Player Protected Mode
being based on the same technology as Adobe Reader X, we are confident
that this implementation will be a significant barrier and help
prevent exploits via Flash Player for Firefox users.


Take a look at http://secunia.com/community/advisories/search/?search=flash
and check how many of those say something along the lines of
"potentially allow an attacker to take control of the affected system"

Disabling protected mode removes some [small?] level of protection to
your machine.
Personally, I'd uninstall Flash before setting ProtectedMode=0

Lee
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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Merlin]

Jay O'Brien wrote:

On 11/30/2013 3:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:


When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an
incoming message and click on a link in that message, it displays the
referred page on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and
then the referred page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred
to page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears
completely behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the
page from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something
configured wrong, I would like some help. Please?


Sounds like the Flash protected mode issue.



Read the rationale first, then try the fix under the heading "Disabling
Protected Mode in Flash 11.3."

If that doesn't solve it, write back.


Paul, Thank you, that fixed the problem. Whew.

Paul or anyone: What are the unintended consequences of disabling
Flash Protected mode by adding 'ProtectedMode=0' to the file
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\mms.cfg?



Security related is the bottom line reasoning for use of Protected Mode 
(PM) in Flash and supported EPM (Enhanced Protected Mode) in other browsers.


The primary purpose of PM in Flash it so make it more difficult for it 
to be targetted for malicious purposes.


More info here:

cf. Inside Flash Player Protected Mode for Firefox

http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2012/06/inside-flash-player-protected-mode-for-firefox.html


By running the Flash Player as a restricted process, Adobe is making it 
more difficult for an attacker to turn a simple bug into a working 
exploit. This blog post will provide an overview of the technical 
implementation of the design.




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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Rick Merrill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:


When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an
incoming message and click on a link in that message, it displays the
referred page on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and
then the referred page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred
to page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears
completely behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the
page from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something
configured wrong, I would like some help. Please?


Sounds like the Flash protected mode issue.



Read the rationale first, then try the fix under the heading "Disabling 
Protected
Mode in Flash 11.3."


Paul, I see "Loss of browser focus" is mentioned in the Flash issue
but is there more to your impressive deduction?

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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:


When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an
incoming message and click on a link in that message, it displays the
referred page on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and
then the referred page goes behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.
Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred
to page is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears
completely behind the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the
page from which I click on a link. I suspect I have something
configured wrong, I would like some help. Please?


Sounds like the Flash protected mode issue.




Read the rationale first, then try the fix under the heading
"Disabling Protected
Mode in Flash 11.3."


Paul, I see "Loss of browser focus" is mentioned in the Flash issue
but is there more to your impressive deduction?


Only the fact that we've seen this set of symptoms dozens of times on 
this forum in the past year, and the proposed fix often works.


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Re: Focus goes away from web page

[EE]

Jay O'Brien wrote:

When I bring up Seamonkey Mail and Newsgroups and then view an incoming message 
and click on a link in that message, it displays the referred page on top of 
the Mail and Newsgroups page for a moment and then the referred page goes 
behind the Mail and Newsgroups page. Subsequent lookups stay on top of the Mail 
and Newsgroups page.

This would not be a problem, except that sometimes the first referred to page 
is smaller than the Mail and Newsgroups page and disappears completely behind 
the Mail and Newsgroups page.

I would like lookups to always take the focus and stay on top of the page from 
which I click on a link. I suspect I have something configured wrong, I would 
like some help. Please?

Thanks,

Jay O'Brien
Folsom, CA

You can move the windows around on the desktop.  I have the browser 
window in the middle of the screen and the mail and news window at the 
left side, so they overlap.  That way, it is easy to get back to one or 
the other by clicking part of the window underneath.


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