Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-23 Thread Philip Chee
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 02:07:07 +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 stevesteve schrieb:
 Please how do I get my old version of SeaMonkey back!?

 I updated to v2.2 in good faith.  The new version is a nightmare.
 Have you tried to right-click?  All I want to do is copy-paste and
 spell check, all I get is a laundry list of useless (to me) functions.
 
 Every time I saw that problem, a restart of SeaMonkey helped. Someone 
 will need to file a bug and someone will need to track it down and fix 
 it. It's all volunteers in this project, help from everyone is wanted 
 and needed.

There are at least two bugs filed, but IanN and by Neil. No need to file
another one. It appears to be a core XUL bug.

Phil

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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-23 Thread Robert Kaiser

Philip Chee schrieb:

There are at least two bugs filed, but IanN and by Neil. No need to file
another one. It appears to be a core XUL bug.


Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to 
work around on 2.3 or so.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-23 Thread Paul
On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:

 Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to
 work around on 2.3 or so.

I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the
problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs.

Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this
on so many people?


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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-23 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:27:24 -0700 (PDT), /Paul/:

On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:


Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to
work around on 2.3 or so.


I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the
problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs.

Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this
on so many people?


The problem in question is not data loss related in anyway - it is 
quite harmless and as it has been pointed already out, the simple 
workaround, if it ever happens to you, is to restart the 
application.  Note also the problem is not introduced by the 
SeaMonkey developers.  SeaMonkey developers wouldn't release a 
version which contains serious known data loss problems.


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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-23 Thread Philip Chee
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:16:08 +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Philip Chee schrieb:
 There are at least two bugs filed, but IanN and by Neil. No need to file
 another one. It appears to be a core XUL bug.
 
 Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to 
 work around on 2.3 or so.
 
 Robert Kaiser

Bug 672258 - Wrong context menu can be shown if two different
windowtypes have the same contextmenu id and xul cache is enabled

Bug 671192 - Command Paste without Formatting in message window is missing

Phil

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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-23 Thread PhillipJones

Paul wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at  wrote:


Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to
work around on 2.3 or so.


I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the
problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs.

Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this
on so many people?


That's a Fault of this new fast Track software release. They don't test 
nor keep a version long enough so the Pile bugs upon bugs, upon, bugs, 
upon bugs until it impossible to fix. everyone is so anxious to keep up 
with Chrome and IE. I use neither. I don't care to. I would rather have 
software that's tested enough to catch major bugs. And at some point 
this hunker down and spit new versions is going to take its toll on the 
developers. they are going to get to the point they will burn out say 
Shxx on this and drop out.


But hey I am but a lowly user and users opinions are worth a grain of 
salt anyway.


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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-23 Thread Ray_Net

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote:


Could you point us to those? Seems like something we'd at least want to
work around on 2.3 or so.


I am going back, I can't live with 2.2 until someone fixes all the
problems. If I lose data, I'm done with Mozilla-based programs.

Don't people work out these details before they foist a mess like this
on so many people?



That's a Fault of this new fast Track software release. They don't test
nor keep a version long enough so the Pile bugs upon bugs, upon, bugs,
upon bugs until it impossible to fix. everyone is so anxious to keep up
with Chrome and IE. I use neither. I don't care to. I would rather have
software that's tested enough to catch major bugs. And at some point
this hunker down and spit new versions is going to take its toll on the
developers. they are going to get to the point they will burn out say
Shxx on this and drop out.

But hey I am but a lowly user and users opinions are worth a grain of
salt anyway.



I agree with you. Mixing bug fixes, security fixes *AND* new features 
introduce extra bugs ... developpers should refrain of pushing new 
features so often.

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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-22 Thread Rob Lindauer

stevesteve wrote:

Please how do I get my old version of SeaMonkey back!?

I updated to v2.2 in good faith.  The new version is a nightmare.
Have you tried to right-click?  All I want to do is copy-paste and
spell check, all I get is a laundry list of useless (to me) functions.

And what is the extra addition to the tool bar with a q of pages.  I
like that it opened up a new window for each e-mail link I click.

Please I've been Mozilla since day 1.  Please can I have my old friend
back...Steve



Sure, take your pick

http://www.oldapps.com/netscape.php
http://www.oldapps.com/SeaMonkey.php
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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-22 Thread Robert Kaiser

stevesteve schrieb:

Please how do I get my old version of SeaMonkey back!?

I updated to v2.2 in good faith.  The new version is a nightmare.
Have you tried to right-click?  All I want to do is copy-paste and
spell check, all I get is a laundry list of useless (to me) functions.


Every time I saw that problem, a restart of SeaMonkey helped. Someone 
will need to file a bug and someone will need to track it down and fix 
it. It's all volunteers in this project, help from everyone is wanted 
and needed.



And what is the extra addition to the tool bar with a q of pages.  I
like that it opened up a new window for each e-mail link I click.


You can easily remove that one if you like.

Robert Kaiser


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Re: I want my old Seamonkey back

2011-07-22 Thread Ken
Rob, and others, it's apparently not as easy to go back to an earlier SM 
as you think.  Here's part of what I posted on another thread:


Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was) which is what 
I was using before.  The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in 
bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with 
this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, 
SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and 
create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing 
history.'


Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to 
be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had 
before.  No?


- Ken (in Oz)
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