Re: More problems with Chase bank website
On 8/27/2016 at 8:03 AM, no...@nonospam.org's prodigious digits fired off: It has been widely reported that chase.com will no longer allow access with SeaMonkey. The workaround has been to use the User Agent spoofing function of PrefBar to tell the site Firefox is being used. This works, but only up to a point. I can login, look at account balances, download activity, and pay bills for existing payees. But in the Manage Payees area, I needed to delete one payee and edit the information for another. Clicking on the appropriate buttons for these functions did NOT work. I logged out and closed SeaMonkey, then started Firefox v48 and logged into the site again. This time, the functions in question worked correctly. Bottom line: Even though you can spoof the browser identity to access the website, there is some difference between SeaMonkey and Firefox which prevents SeaMonkey from being totally functional at chase.com Since there could also be other issues that might not be obvious, I am reluctant to continue using SeaMonkey to access this site. :-( John Any add-ons differences between SM and FF? Have you tried Safe Mode? Javascript enabled? Allow cookies? Clear cookies? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More problems with Chase bank website
On 8/27/2016 5:03 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote: > It has been widely reported that chase.com will no longer allow access > with SeaMonkey. > > The workaround has been to use the User Agent spoofing function of > PrefBar to tell the site Firefox is being used. > > This works, but only up to a point. I can login, look at account > balances, download activity, and pay bills for existing payees. > > But in the Manage Payees area, I needed to delete one payee and edit the > information for another. Clicking on the appropriate buttons for these > functions did NOT work. > > I logged out and closed SeaMonkey, then started Firefox v48 and logged > into the site again. This time, the functions in question worked correctly. > > Bottom line: Even though you can spoof the browser identity to access > the website, there is some difference between SeaMonkey and Firefox > which prevents SeaMonkey from being totally functional at chase.com > > Since there could also be other issues that might not be obvious, I am > reluctant to continue using SeaMonkey to access this site. :-( > > John > No, this will not solve your problem with Chase; but it might help you avoid this problem. My father owned an independent furniture store. His inventory came from local manufacturers and from local representatives of non-local manufacturers. He did not need the services of a mega-bank. Instead, he always used a small, local bank. He said that he wanted to bank where the employees -- especially the branch manager -- recognized him and knew him by name. This was all before the advent of the Internet. Today, I bank at a small, local bank. I also have an account at a credit union. I have no problems doing online banking through SeaMonkey with either institution. Traveling in Europe, I had no problem using my credit union's Visa card; and my wife had no problem using our bank's Master Card. I suggest that, if you do not use all the services of Chase, change banks. -- David E. Ross Republicans scream that Hillary Clinton was responsible for the tragedy in Benghazi. They conveniently forget that it was the Republican-controlled Congress that drastically cut the State Department's budget for embassy and consulate protection. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More problems with Chase bank website
no...@nonospam.org wrote: It has been widely reported that chase.com will no longer allow access with SeaMonkey. The workaround has been to use the User Agent spoofing function of PrefBar to tell the site Firefox is being used. This works, but only up to a point. I can login, look at account balances, download activity, and pay bills for existing payees. But in the Manage Payees area, I needed to delete one payee and edit the information for another. Clicking on the appropriate buttons for these functions did NOT work. I logged out and closed SeaMonkey, then started Firefox v48 and logged into the site again. This time, the functions in question worked correctly. Bottom line: Even though you can spoof the browser identity to access the website, there is some difference between SeaMonkey and Firefox which prevents SeaMonkey from being totally functional at chase.com Since there could also be other issues that might not be obvious, I am reluctant to continue using SeaMonkey to access this site. :-( John How far does the user-agent spoofing go? I use User Agent Switcher, and I noticed that the available database with fakes leaves blanks. The user-agent itself is filled in, but app code name, app name, app version and platform are left blank. If there is code that uses javascript to do more poking into the user-agent and it finds blanks, it is obvious that this is a fake. Fill in the blanks properly and the whole thing looks normal. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More problems with Chase bank website
On 8/27/2016 4:58 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 8/27/2016 5:03 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote: It has been widely reported that chase.com will no longer allow access with SeaMonkey. The workaround has been to use the User Agent spoofing function of PrefBar to tell the site Firefox is being used. This works, but only up to a point. I can login, look at account balances, download activity, and pay bills for existing payees. But in the Manage Payees area, I needed to delete one payee and edit the information for another. Clicking on the appropriate buttons for these functions did NOT work. I logged out and closed SeaMonkey, then started Firefox v48 and logged into the site again. This time, the functions in question worked correctly. Bottom line: Even though you can spoof the browser identity to access the website, there is some difference between SeaMonkey and Firefox which prevents SeaMonkey from being totally functional at chase.com Since there could also be other issues that might not be obvious, I am reluctant to continue using SeaMonkey to access this site. :-( John No, this will not solve your problem with Chase; but it might help you avoid this problem. My father owned an independent furniture store. His inventory came from local manufacturers and from local representatives of non-local manufacturers. He did not need the services of a mega-bank. Instead, he always used a small, local bank. He said that he wanted to bank where the employees -- especially the branch manager -- recognized him and knew him by name. This was all before the advent of the Internet. Today, I bank at a small, local bank. I also have an account at a credit union. I have no problems doing online banking through SeaMonkey with either institution. Traveling in Europe, I had no problem using my credit union's Visa card; and my wife had no problem using our bank's Master Card. I suggest that, if you do not use all the services of Chase, change banks. You assume too much. Chase is the LOWEST FIXED credit card interest rate of all banks I have cards from or have looked at. Plus, I have a HIGH credit limit at Chase on my Slate card. Certainly, no local credit union would offer anything like Chase even with my 822 FICO score. Local credit unions offer dinky credit cards and NONE offer FIXED rate. I have three local credit cards from local banks. My Chase non local card is the only one with a very low FIXED interest rate and three times higher credit limit than my local cards. So, it is a matter of what bank offers the best card and that is never a local credit union in my experience and I do belong to the highest rated credit union here since the early 70's. As for faking the UA, I do that with User Agent Switcher and fake as Fx 40. Chase is perfectly happy then and I haven't found anything I can't do using SeaMonkey at Chaseonline but maybe I will find something esoteric some day. I avoid paying bills the way notme does (as it is too iffy) so maybe that would not work for me either, I don't know. But what I do need to do at Chaseonline, since Chase first started their online banking many years ago, I can do just fine on SeaMonkey. It is scary though that Chase is so ignorant and makes it so easy to fake another browser as the acceptable Fx. They allow all the way back to Fx16! Yet get upset at SeaMonkey 2.40. (Plus, they are so backward how they handle not recognizing your computer each time). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More problems with Chase bank website
On 8/28/2016 6:33 AM, Desiree wrote [in part]: > You assume too much. Chase is the LOWEST FIXED credit card interest > rate of all banks I have cards from or have looked at. Plus, I have a > HIGH credit limit at Chase on my Slate card. Certainly, no local credit > union would offer anything like Chase even with my 822 FICO score. > Local credit unions offer dinky credit cards and NONE offer FIXED rate. > I have three local credit cards from local banks. My Chase non local > card is the only one with a very low FIXED interest rate and three times > higher credit limit than my local cards. Since I pay off ALL my credit cards monthly, interest rates on credit cards are meaningless to me. I feel that financing short-term living expenses with long-term debt is definitely NOT the way towards financial security. As for earning "points", my credit union no-fee Visa card earns 1% back on ALL purchases. In any case, I have yet to find a bank -- large or small -- that has interest rates on loans lower than either of the two credit unions where I have accounts. My home-equity line of credit is 0.4% above prime, currently 3.875% with no fees. -- David E. Ross Republicans scream that Hillary Clinton was responsible for the tragedy in Benghazi. They conveniently forget that it was the Republican-controlled Congress that drastically cut the State Department's budget for embassy and consulate protection. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More problems with Chase bank website
On 8/28/2016 7:53 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 8/28/2016 6:33 AM, Desiree wrote [in part]: >> You assume too much. Chase is the LOWEST FIXED credit card interest >> rate of all banks I have cards from or have looked at. Plus, I have a >> HIGH credit limit at Chase on my Slate card. Certainly, no local credit >> union would offer anything like Chase even with my 822 FICO score. >> Local credit unions offer dinky credit cards and NONE offer FIXED rate. >> I have three local credit cards from local banks. My Chase non local >> card is the only one with a very low FIXED interest rate and three times >> higher credit limit than my local cards. > > Since I pay off ALL my credit cards monthly, interest rates on credit > cards are meaningless to me. I feel that financing short-term living > expenses with long-term debt is definitely NOT the way towards financial > security. As for earning "points", my credit union no-fee Visa card > earns 1% back on ALL purchases. > > In any case, I have yet to find a bank -- large or small -- that has > interest rates on loans lower than either of the two credit unions where > I have accounts. My home-equity line of credit is 0.4% above prime, > currently 3.875% with no fees. > I just checked the JPMorgan Chase Web site. After low or zero introductory rates, the minimum credit card interest rate over all of the eight varieties of personal and business credit cards is 13.24%. Premier America Credit Union has a Master Card with a minimum rate of 7.50%, and Unify Financial Credit Union has a Visa card with a fixed minimum rate of 8.99%. -- David E. Ross Republicans scream that Hillary Clinton was responsible for the tragedy in Benghazi. They conveniently forget that it was the Republican-controlled Congress that drastically cut the State Department's budget for embassy and consulate protection. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More problems with Chase bank website
On 8/28/2016 2:39 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 8/28/2016 7:53 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 8/28/2016 6:33 AM, Desiree wrote [in part]: You assume too much. Chase is the LOWEST FIXED credit card interest rate of all banks I have cards from or have looked at. Plus, I have a HIGH credit limit at Chase on my Slate card. Certainly, no local credit union would offer anything like Chase even with my 822 FICO score. Local credit unions offer dinky credit cards and NONE offer FIXED rate. I have three local credit cards from local banks. My Chase non local card is the only one with a very low FIXED interest rate and three times higher credit limit than my local cards. Since I pay off ALL my credit cards monthly, interest rates on credit cards are meaningless to me. I feel that financing short-term living expenses with long-term debt is definitely NOT the way towards financial security. As for earning "points", my credit union no-fee Visa card earns 1% back on ALL purchases. In any case, I have yet to find a bank -- large or small -- that has interest rates on loans lower than either of the two credit unions where I have accounts. My home-equity line of credit is 0.4% above prime, currently 3.875% with no fees. I just checked the JPMorgan Chase Web site. After low or zero introductory rates, the minimum credit card interest rate over all of the eight varieties of personal and business credit cards is 13.24%. Premier America Credit Union has a Master Card with a minimum rate of 7.50%, and Unify Financial Credit Union has a Visa card with a fixed minimum rate of 8.99%. Yes, those are Chase's current rates. I've had this card with them for over 20 years. Chase, I don't think, has any fixed rate cards either currently. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
