Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

2017-03-09 Thread TCW

On 3/9/2017 8:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

TCW wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 18:57:36 -0500, Arnie Goetchius
 wrote:


TCW wrote:

On 3/8/2017 3:47 PM, njoracle wrote:

TCW wrote:

On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in SM.
What
I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 seconds
before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are no new
messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 and
Win
10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.

Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use to start
almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several desktops
and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.



No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.


Are you getting 1-2 seconds?

When I try to retrieve messages from a newsgroup, I get the same delay. Sending
an email or sending a message is almost immediate.



So, a couple questions:

1. Are you leaving mail on server?

Yes

2. How much mail are we talking about?

About 9000. I'm in the process of deleting everything on the server but the last
two months worth. I have a spare computer where all emails are stored so I don't
really need to leave on the server.

3. What Internet speed do you have?

36 MPS down and 27 MPS up

4. Network drivers up to date?

Don't know. I will check

5. Have you rebooted your Internet modem or modem+router lately?

No, I will do that after I finish with today's work


6. What are your POP3 server settings? Meaning, what server name+port, what
connection security (STARTTLS or SSL/TLS), Authentication Method?

Inbound.att.net  port 995
Connection SSL/TLS Authentication Normal Password


I know a lot of Internet providers are starting to clamp down on insecure email
checking.

Another thing you could try is installing Adrian Kalla's build of SM 2.48 from
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ from
the Latest Comm Release 32 or 64-bit build folders. It is stable and built from
Mozilla source. I myself am using 2.49 beta but I used the 2.48 that Adrian
built and it was rock stable.

Thanks for all of the tips. I was running Adrian's 2.48 but went back to Mozilla
2.46. I may go back if the other stuff I'm doing doesn't work.

Many, many thanks for the questions you ask, I really appreciate the time it
took you to put that all together.


No worries. I thought that if you'd have a ton of email in an inbox it
might just be taking a long time to hit an Inbox with thousands of
messages. That *could* be it, especially if they're all on the server.


That was definitely the problem. I deleted all messages from 2016 and earlier
and have now reduced the response time from 15 seconds to 5 seconds. I can live
with that. Thanks again for the tip



Thanks for reporting back.
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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

2017-03-09 Thread Arnie Goetchius
TCW wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 18:57:36 -0500, Arnie Goetchius
>  wrote:
> 
>> TCW wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2017 3:47 PM, njoracle wrote:
 TCW wrote:
> On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in 
>> SM.
>> What
>> I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 
>> seconds
>> before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are 
>> no new
>> messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
>> messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 
>> and
>> Win
>> 10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use 
>> to start
>> almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several 
>> desktops
>> and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.
>>
>
> No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.

 Are you getting 1-2 seconds?

 When I try to retrieve messages from a newsgroup, I get the same delay. 
 Sending
 an email or sending a message is almost immediate.

>>>
>>> So, a couple questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Are you leaving mail on server?
>> Yes
>>> 2. How much mail are we talking about?
>> About 9000. I'm in the process of deleting everything on the server but the 
>> last
>> two months worth. I have a spare computer where all emails are stored so I 
>> don't
>> really need to leave on the server.
>>> 3. What Internet speed do you have?
>> 36 MPS down and 27 MPS up
>>> 4. Network drivers up to date?
>> Don't know. I will check
>>> 5. Have you rebooted your Internet modem or modem+router lately?
>> No, I will do that after I finish with today's work
>>
>>> 6. What are your POP3 server settings? Meaning, what server name+port, what
>>> connection security (STARTTLS or SSL/TLS), Authentication Method?
>> Inbound.att.net  port 995
>> Connection SSL/TLS Authentication Normal Password
>>>
>>> I know a lot of Internet providers are starting to clamp down on insecure 
>>> email
>>> checking.
>>>
>>> Another thing you could try is installing Adrian Kalla's build of SM 2.48 
>>> from
>>> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 
>>> from
>>> the Latest Comm Release 32 or 64-bit build folders. It is stable and built 
>>> from
>>> Mozilla source. I myself am using 2.49 beta but I used the 2.48 that Adrian
>>> built and it was rock stable.
>> Thanks for all of the tips. I was running Adrian's 2.48 but went back to 
>> Mozilla
>> 2.46. I may go back if the other stuff I'm doing doesn't work.
>>
>> Many, many thanks for the questions you ask, I really appreciate the time it
>> took you to put that all together.
> 
> No worries. I thought that if you'd have a ton of email in an inbox it
> might just be taking a long time to hit an Inbox with thousands of
> messages. That *could* be it, especially if they're all on the server.
> 
That was definitely the problem. I deleted all messages from 2016 and earlier
and have now reduced the response time from 15 seconds to 5 seconds. I can live
with that. Thanks again for the tip
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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

2017-03-08 Thread Arnie Goetchius
TCW wrote:
> On 3/8/2017 3:47 PM, njoracle wrote:
>> TCW wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in SM.
 What
 I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 seconds
 before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are no 
 new
 messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
 messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 
 and
 Win
 10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.

 Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use to 
 start
 almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several 
 desktops
 and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.

>>>
>>> No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.
>>
>> Are you getting 1-2 seconds?
>>
>> When I try to retrieve messages from a newsgroup, I get the same delay. 
>> Sending
>> an email or sending a message is almost immediate.
>>
> 
> So, a couple questions:
> 
> 1. Are you leaving mail on server?
Yes
> 2. How much mail are we talking about?
About 9000. I'm in the process of deleting everything on the server but the last
two months worth. I have a spare computer where all emails are stored so I don't
really need to leave on the server.
> 3. What Internet speed do you have?
36 MPS down and 27 MPS up
> 4. Network drivers up to date?
Don't know. I will check
> 5. Have you rebooted your Internet modem or modem+router lately?
No, I will do that after I finish with today's work

> 6. What are your POP3 server settings? Meaning, what server name+port, what
> connection security (STARTTLS or SSL/TLS), Authentication Method?
Inbound.att.net  port 995
Connection SSL/TLS Authentication Normal Password
> 
> I know a lot of Internet providers are starting to clamp down on insecure 
> email
> checking.
> 
> Another thing you could try is installing Adrian Kalla's build of SM 2.48 from
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ from
> the Latest Comm Release 32 or 64-bit build folders. It is stable and built 
> from
> Mozilla source. I myself am using 2.49 beta but I used the 2.48 that Adrian
> built and it was rock stable.
Thanks for all of the tips. I was running Adrian's 2.48 but went back to Mozilla
2.46. I may go back if the other stuff I'm doing doesn't work.

Many, many thanks for the questions you ask, I really appreciate the time it
took you to put that all together.
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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

2017-03-08 Thread TCW

On 3/8/2017 3:47 PM, njoracle wrote:

TCW wrote:

On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in SM. What
I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 seconds
before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are no new
messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 and Win
10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.

Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use to start
almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several desktops
and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.



No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.


Are you getting 1-2 seconds?

When I try to retrieve messages from a newsgroup, I get the same delay. Sending
an email or sending a message is almost immediate.



So, a couple questions:

1. Are you leaving mail on server?
2. How much mail are we talking about?
3. What Internet speed do you have?
4. Network drivers up to date?
5. Have you rebooted your Internet modem or modem+router lately?
6. What are your POP3 server settings? Meaning, what server name+port, 
what connection security (STARTTLS or SSL/TLS), Authentication Method?


I know a lot of Internet providers are starting to clamp down on 
insecure email checking.


Another thing you could try is installing Adrian Kalla's build of SM 
2.48 from 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 
from the Latest Comm Release 32 or 64-bit build folders. It is stable 
and built from Mozilla source. I myself am using 2.49 beta but I used 
the 2.48 that Adrian built and it was rock stable.

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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

2017-03-08 Thread njoracle
TCW wrote:
> On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in SM. 
>> What
>> I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 seconds
>> before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are no 
>> new
>> messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
>> messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 and 
>> Win
>> 10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use to 
>> start
>> almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several 
>> desktops
>> and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.
>>
> 
> No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.

Are you getting 1-2 seconds?

When I try to retrieve messages from a newsgroup, I get the same delay. Sending
an email or sending a message is almost immediate.
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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

2017-03-08 Thread EE

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in SM. What
I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 seconds
before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are no new
messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 and Win
10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.

Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use to start
almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several desktops
and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.

Lately, it takes a while to log in.  I never timed it though.  I thought 
it was because of MacOS Sierra.

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Re: Should SM 2.46 Takes 15 Seconds to Start POP3 Email Download?

2017-03-08 Thread TCW

On 3/8/2017 1:12 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

For the last several months, retrieving email has slowed down for me in SM. What
I mean is that when I click on “Get All New Messages”, it takes 15 seconds
before it starts to download any messages from the server. If there are no new
messages, it still takes 15 seconds to report back that there are no new
messages. I use POP3 and download from the att.yahoo.com server, SM 2.46 and Win
10 with the latest update. ISP is Verizon FiOS.

Can anyone tell me if the 15 second lag is normal? As I recall, it use to start
almost immediately or within 5 seconds. I have checked this on several desktops
and my laptop and the delay is always 15 seconds.



No way. It should be within 1-2 seconds at most.
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