Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-22 Thread Daniel 

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Hey, Beauregard, when in SeaMonkey do you find "Options->Browser"?? I'm
on Linux and SM 2.7.2 and don't see it! Is that in StartPage??


For Linux users, it would be Edit>  Preferences>  Browser ... from the
menu. Windows users get Tools>  Options>  Browser ...



I thought it was the same on Linux and Win7! Must check on my Win7!!

I thought it was Firefox that was using the Options location!!

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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-21 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 
Daniel wrote:

> Hey, Beauregard, when in SeaMonkey do you find "Options->Browser"?? I'm
> on Linux and SM 2.7.2 and don't see it! Is that in StartPage??

For Linux users, it would be Edit > Preferences > Browser ... from the 
menu. Windows users get Tools > Options > Browser ...

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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-21 Thread Desiree 

"MCBastos"  wrote in message 
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> Interviewed by CNN on 20/02/2012 07:27, Desiree told the world:
>> With the demise of Scroogle, which has been my sole search engine for 
>> many
>> years, I am looking for a search engine that does not spy on me. 
>> StartPage
>> looks to be the only decent results one in this category. Why can't I
>> install it on SM? I am really surprised that I cannot. It has been around
>> for four or five years now but is much more private now than in the past 
>> and
>> is the only search engine to win approval from EU. What do SM users in EU
>> do?
>>
>> I even tried to install the Fx version on SM.  It reports an XML parsing
>> error.
>>
>> Even if it would install, if SM throws the same bug that Fx throws when I
>> try to use it then I can't use it, but I was hoping the problem in Fx is 
>> due
>> to my still using 4.01 (soon to be Fx Enterprise version when I get 
>> around
>> to it). Since I have the latest SM, and not everything is the same in 
>> both
>> browsers, I was hoping I would not encounter the bug in SM since it is 
>> the
>> latest version and the bug could be related in Fx to the version I am 
>> using.
>> But since it won't install, I can't even try it.
>>
>>
>
> You can get it from here:
>
> http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=starting+page

Thanks! That works.

Wonder why it won't install from Addons but installs from Mycroft?
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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-21 Thread Desiree 

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty"  wrote in message 
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> Desiree wrote:
>
>> With the demise of Scroogle, which has been my sole search engine for
>> many years, I am looking for a search engine that does not spy on me.
>> StartPage looks to be the only decent results one in this category. Why
>> can't I install it on SM? I am really surprised that I cannot.
>
> I just installed StartPage here as a search engine, and it works.
>
> Options > Browser > Internet Search
>
> Click the [Manage Search Engines...] button
>
> When the browser opens to the add-ons page, enter this URL:
>  sort=name&page=95>
> where StartPage(SSL) lives in the long list of possibilities.
>
> Click its button to "Add to SeaMonkey"
> Click checkbox in next dialog to "Start using now"
> Go back to Options and move StartPage to the top of the list.
> Also click on that "menu" button and change from Google to StartPage.
>
> Works for me in 2.4.1 - the version I have on my Linux box.

I already tried that. It gave me the XML parsing error. It will not install 
on SM 2.6.1 on XP Pro. (I am not using the latest SM because two of my 
extensions won't work on it).
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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-21 Thread Desiree 

"MCBastos"  wrote in message 
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> Interviewed by CNN on 20/02/2012 07:27, Desiree told the world:
>> With the demise of Scroogle, which has been my sole search engine for 
>> many
>> years, I am looking for a search engine that does not spy on me. 
>> StartPage
>> looks to be the only decent results one in this category. Why can't I
>> install it on SM? I am really surprised that I cannot. It has been around
>> for four or five years now but is much more private now than in the past 
>> and
>> is the only search engine to win approval from EU. What do SM users in EU
>> do?
>
> As a possible option, have you considered DuckDuckGo? It's not powered
> by Google, so it may yield less results, but they do have a pretty good
> privacy policy.
>
The search results for DuckDuckGo are poor.
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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-21 Thread Daniel 

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Desiree wrote:


With the demise of Scroogle, which has been my sole search engine for
many years, I am looking for a search engine that does not spy on me.
StartPage looks to be the only decent results one in this category. Why
can't I install it on SM? I am really surprised that I cannot.


I just installed StartPage here as a search engine, and it works.

Options>  Browser>  Internet Search

Click the [Manage Search Engines...] button

When the browser opens to the add-ons page, enter this URL:

where StartPage(SSL) lives in the long list of possibilities.

Click its button to "Add to SeaMonkey"
Click checkbox in next dialog to "Start using now"
Go back to Options and move StartPage to the top of the list.
Also click on that "menu" button and change from Google to StartPage.

Works for me in 2.4.1 - the version I have on my Linux box.



Hey, Beauregard, when in SeaMonkey do you find "Options->Browser"?? I'm 
on Linux and SM 2.7.2 and don't see it! Is that in StartPage??


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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-20 Thread MCBastos 
Interviewed by CNN on 20/02/2012 07:27, Desiree told the world:
> With the demise of Scroogle, which has been my sole search engine for many 
> years, I am looking for a search engine that does not spy on me. StartPage 
> looks to be the only decent results one in this category. Why can't I 
> install it on SM? I am really surprised that I cannot. It has been around 
> for four or five years now but is much more private now than in the past and 
> is the only search engine to win approval from EU. What do SM users in EU 
> do?
> 
> I even tried to install the Fx version on SM.  It reports an XML parsing 
> error.
> 
> Even if it would install, if SM throws the same bug that Fx throws when I 
> try to use it then I can't use it, but I was hoping the problem in Fx is due 
> to my still using 4.01 (soon to be Fx Enterprise version when I get around 
> to it). Since I have the latest SM, and not everything is the same in both 
> browsers, I was hoping I would not encounter the bug in SM since it is the 
> latest version and the bug could be related in Fx to the version I am using. 
> But since it won't install, I can't even try it. 
> 
> 

You can get it from here:

http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=starting+page

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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-20 Thread MCBastos 
Interviewed by CNN on 20/02/2012 07:27, Desiree told the world:
> With the demise of Scroogle, which has been my sole search engine for many 
> years, I am looking for a search engine that does not spy on me. StartPage 
> looks to be the only decent results one in this category. Why can't I 
> install it on SM? I am really surprised that I cannot. It has been around 
> for four or five years now but is much more private now than in the past and 
> is the only search engine to win approval from EU. What do SM users in EU 
> do?

As a possible option, have you considered DuckDuckGo? It's not powered
by Google, so it may yield less results, but they do have a pretty good
privacy policy.

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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-20 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 
Desiree wrote:

> With the demise of Scroogle, which has been my sole search engine for
> many years, I am looking for a search engine that does not spy on me.
> StartPage looks to be the only decent results one in this category. Why
> can't I install it on SM? I am really surprised that I cannot.

I just installed StartPage here as a search engine, and it works.

Options > Browser > Internet Search

Click the [Manage Search Engines...] button

When the browser opens to the add-ons page, enter this URL:

where StartPage(SSL) lives in the long list of possibilities.

Click its button to "Add to SeaMonkey"
Click checkbox in next dialog to "Start using now"
Go back to Options and move StartPage to the top of the list.
Also click on that "menu" button and change from Google to StartPage.

Works for me in 2.4.1 - the version I have on my Linux box.

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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-20 Thread Desiree 

"Philip TAYLOR"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> Desiree wrote:
>
>> What do SM users in EU do?
>
> I am in the EU, and I use Google with a customised (private)
> home page to avoid the "You+" dross and to present a customised
> list of Google features (avoid shopping, add translate, etc).
> I do not worry about being "spied on" since I have nothing
> to hide.
>
> Philip Taylor

So, you don't mind having a dossier built on your search habits? Perhaps, 
because EU's privacy policies are far stricter than those of the USA (which 
I admire)? Here, anyone using Google, Bing, etc is pure fodder for private 
companies who spy on you. Just install Ghostery to see a taste of how many 
and Ghostery only blocks the tip of the iceberg yet it will find 30 or more 
spies on many websites and certainly on Google sites. Google is one of the 
worst offenders as far as privacy is concerned. I don't know of any other 
company that reads not only all email sent by a GMail user but also reads 
all mail sent TO a GMail user and builds a dossier on BOTH parties.

(Facebook is the other worst offender and I have it blocked in my hosts 
file).  I also do not want Homeland Security spying on me. StartPage does 
not record my IP address, the search is SSL and it destroys the results 
quickly.  It has nothing to do with what, if anything, one has to "hide". It 
has to do with freedom and liberty which cannot exist without privacy.

I am assuming that the problem here is just one of oversight and that SM 
will fix this so I, and others who were using Scroogle, can now use 
StartPage. If the problem regarding the GoDaddy cert that StartPage uses is 
also in SM then that will need fixing too but that could be that it is only 
in Fx 4.01 that I have and not in current Fx 10.



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Re: StartPage Search Engine will not install

2012-02-20 Thread Philip TAYLOR 



Desiree wrote:


What do SM users in EU do?


I am in the EU, and I use Google with a customised (private)
home page to avoid the "You+" dross and to present a customised
list of Google features (avoid shopping, add translate, etc).
I do not worry about being "spied on" since I have nothing
to hide.

Philip Taylor
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