Re: Useragent string
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:20:29 -0700, JAS in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: >> I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. >> >> I use this. >> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 >> >> I can read my mail but can not delete emails. >> >> >> Is there a fix other than using FF? >> >Check here for strings >http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php and if you are >using PrefBar with the Real UA button you can install as many as you >like and try. I use the version 7.1.1 and I run Seamonkey 2.48 and >Windows 7 Pro: >http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/archive.html >Just a thought. You have to revert your yahoo mail account from the latest and greatest to what they call "classic" mail format, and that will run fine in SM.and Inet Xplorer 6 (or whatever shipped with win 7). The how to instructions are simple and are on the web. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
j...@comcast.com wrote on 14/03/2019 12:19 PM: On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:22:41 -0800 (PST), scientist77...@gmail.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:45:18 PM UTC-6, Daniel wrote: scientist77...@gmail.com wrote on 22/02/2019 3:36 PM: On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:47:52 PM UTC-6, WaltS48 wrote: On 2/21/19 8:33 PM, scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee wrote: scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. I use this. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 I can read my mail but can not delete emails. Is there a fix other than using FF? How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. Thru Seamonkey. Through an email account created in the Mail & Newsgroups window or web mail in the browser? Web mail in my browser. ... then I think you might have some other (non-SeaMonkey related) problem because I have a freebie Yahoo mail web based account that I check out every week or so ... without having to spoof my SeaMonkey User Agent string (as shown below). ;-( -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 Thanks, I will try out your string. That's strange because I have no problems if I use Firefox? Andy same situation here Andy, except i have not spoofed the useragent yet. Hopefully, i will learn how to spoof useragent at the web site given earlier. Right now, Yahoo returns Seamonkey the message: update to FF, update to Chrome, or continue with legacy yahoo (option does not work). So to check the server, i am using FF. It just started a couple weeks ago. Worked fine before then but had been saying that it would quit working on 2/1/19 but continued working for a few weeks after that. I just went to my freebie Yahoo e-mail account using my SeaMonkey on Win7 (version shown in sig file) and continued with my legacy Yahoo to clean up my thirty or so e-mails received over the last month or so (O.K., I've been slack!! ;-P ). WFM!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 14:40:13 -0800 (PST), scientist77...@gmail.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. > >I use this. >Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 > >I can read my mail but can not delete emails. > > >Is there a fix other than using FF? You can return to classic Yahoo, then use Seamonkey. I just did it for the same reason you are spoofing the useragent. https://www.lifewire.com/switch-to-yahoo-classic-1174502 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:22:41 -0800 (PST), scientist77...@gmail.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:45:18 PM UTC-6, Daniel wrote: >> scientist77...@gmail.com wrote on 22/02/2019 3:36 PM: >> > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:47:52 PM UTC-6, WaltS48 wrote: >> >> On 2/21/19 8:33 PM, scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee >> >>> wrote: >> scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: >> > I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. >> > >> > I use this. >> > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 >> > >> > I can read my mail but can not delete emails. >> > >> > Is there a fix other than using FF? >> >> How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the >> SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. >> >>> >> >>> Thru Seamonkey. >> >> >> >> Through an email account created in the Mail & Newsgroups window or web >> >> mail in the browser? >> > >> > Web mail in my browser. >> > >> ... then I think you might have some other (non-SeaMonkey related) >> problem because I have a freebie Yahoo mail web based account that I >> check out every week or so ... without having to spoof my SeaMonkey User >> Agent string (as shown below). ;-( >> >> -- >> Daniel >> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 >> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 > >Thanks, I will try out your string. > >That's strange because I have no problems if I use Firefox? > >Andy same situation here Andy, except i have not spoofed the useragent yet. Hopefully, i will learn how to spoof useragent at the web site given earlier. Right now, Yahoo returns Seamonkey the message: update to FF, update to Chrome, or continue with legacy yahoo (option does not work). So to check the server, i am using FF. It just started a couple weeks ago. Worked fine before then but had been saying that it would quit working on 2/1/19 but continued working for a few weeks after that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 9:49:32 AM UTC-6, NFN Smith wrote: > scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > > I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. > > > > I use this. > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 > > > > I can read my mail but can not delete emails. > > > > > > Is there a fix other than using FF? > > > > > I have more than one account with Yahoo -- on the primary one, I > normally read through mail and news client, although occasionally, I > will log in to web mail. No problems there. > > I also have an account that I touch rarely, and I just checked in there, > with web mail. It's been long enough since I interacted with that > account that I had to initiate a password reset, and once I logged in > there, Yahoo complained that the new version of their web mail client > doesn't like my version of Firefox (i.e., Seamonkey 2.49.4 showing > itself as Firefox 52): "The new Yahoo Mail is no longer supported on > your browser. Please use a supported browser below or use classic Mail", > with download links offered for current versions of Chrome and Firefox. > There is also a link shown for "continue with classic mail", but is > unresponsive. > > I have PrefBar, and when I set Seamonkey to show itself as Firefox 60, > (specifically, "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) > Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0" ) I have no problems getting through to the > new client. > > (By the way, if I happen to be spoofing that I'm running Linux, the > string that I use is "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) > Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0" . For you, one minor niggle would be to > use an underscore in "x86_64". That may not affect handling any, but a > valid Linux UA will use the underscore, and the lack of underscore > indicates that you are spoofing. There are sites out there that will > reject UA strings that are known to be invalid, in varying degrees of > aggressiveness.) > > Ultimately, the problem is that because Firefox 52 is no longer > developed/supported, there's an increasing number of web sites that are > no longer allowing that version. Even before the Firefox ESR shifted > from 52.x to 60.x, there were sites rejecting older Firefox versions > (especially ones older than Firefox 57), but with 60.x being the new ESR > version, rejection of 52.x is accelerating. > > A further problem is that the number of Seamonkey users is few enough > that a lot of site owners don't know about it, or if they do, don't > care. Or that they don't know that even if Seamonkey 2.49.4 is based on > Firefox 52, it still has current security updated back ported from > Firefox 60.x. It's real easy for site owners to simply work under the > assumption that "Firefox 52 is dead, and we don't want people using it > to access our site." > > In fact, judging from the logs of my own site, the large majority of > visits from browsers showing Firefox versions older than 60 are bots > with forged user agent strings. Rejecting those connections is > considered to be a zero-loss way of blocking a lot of bogus traffic. And > yes, I'm in the process of adjusting my own filtering rules to be more > aggressive about rejecting forged traffic, whether from UA strings > showing really old versions of browsers, as well as browsers showing UA > strings that have never been valid. > > Just yesterday, I posted a comment in a thread that discussed the > question of a site rejecting *all* versions of Seamonkey (including > versions that show Seamonkey 2.53/Firefox 60). > > This has always been an issue with Seamonkey, that site operators care > only about "Firefox" (and with the continued growth of Chrome, there's a > growing number of sites that effectively support Chrome only). It helped > several years ago when Seamonkey devs adjusted the default UA string to > show Firefox and Seamonkey, rather than insisting on showing Seamonkey > only. Before that, there were enough sites that didn't recognize > Seamonkey, that it was necessary to know how to do browser spoofing. > Since then, in my own experience, it's been infrequently needed to do > spoofing, although I have other reasons to do occasional spoofing. > > In the meantime, with the end of Firefox 52 ESR, and continued growth of > Chrome's market share, you should assume that you'll see a corresponding > growth in the number of sites that reject Seamonkey. Thus, it's a good > idea to learn how to do spoofing. PrefBar is officially abandoned, and > it's no longer available from the Seamonkey repository at > addons.thunderbird.net, but you can still find it at > https://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/archive.html . > > Yes, it's possible to set a Firefox UA as your default via about:config > (in your prefs.js file), although I recommend against that. Although > that's fine if you use Seamonkey for only the browser, whatever is in > that setting also applies to the mail
Re: Useragent string
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:45:18 PM UTC-6, Daniel wrote: > scientist77...@gmail.com wrote on 22/02/2019 3:36 PM: > > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:47:52 PM UTC-6, WaltS48 wrote: > >> On 2/21/19 8:33 PM, scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee wrote: > scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > > I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. > > > > I use this. > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 > > > > I can read my mail but can not delete emails. > > > > Is there a fix other than using FF? > > How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the > SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. > >>> > >>> Thru Seamonkey. > >> > >> Through an email account created in the Mail & Newsgroups window or web > >> mail in the browser? > > > > Web mail in my browser. > > > ... then I think you might have some other (non-SeaMonkey related) > problem because I have a freebie Yahoo mail web based account that I > check out every week or so ... without having to spoof my SeaMonkey User > Agent string (as shown below). ;-( > > -- > Daniel > > User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 > SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 > > User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 > SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 Thanks, I will try out your string. That's strange because I have no problems if I use Firefox? Andy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
scientist77...@gmail.com wrote on 22/02/2019 3:36 PM: On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:47:52 PM UTC-6, WaltS48 wrote: On 2/21/19 8:33 PM, scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee wrote: scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. I use this. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 I can read my mail but can not delete emails. Is there a fix other than using FF? How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. Thru Seamonkey. Through an email account created in the Mail & Newsgroups window or web mail in the browser? Web mail in my browser. ... then I think you might have some other (non-SeaMonkey related) problem because I have a freebie Yahoo mail web based account that I check out every week or so ... without having to spoof my SeaMonkey User Agent string (as shown below). ;-( -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:47:52 PM UTC-6, WaltS48 wrote: > On 2/21/19 8:33 PM, scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee wrote: > >> scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. > >>> > >>> I use this. > >>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 > >>> > >>> I can read my mail but can not delete emails. > >>> > >>> > >>> Is there a fix other than using FF? > >>> > >> > >> How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the > >> SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. > >> > >> Dave > > > > Thru Seamonkey. > > > > Through an email account created in the Mail & Newsgroups window or web > mail in the browser? > > -- > OS: Linux Mint 19.1 - Cinnamon Desktop > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ Web mail in my browser. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. I use this. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 I can read my mail but can not delete emails. Is there a fix other than using FF? Besides being a web browser, SM is also an email and ng program. Try other ua strings and if that does not work then set up the email part of SM using POP3 or imap. http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php Or make your own ua string. FF does not contain an email program like SM does so you will need to use webmail with FF. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On 2/21/19 8:33 PM, scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee wrote: scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. I use this. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 I can read my mail but can not delete emails. Is there a fix other than using FF? How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. Dave Thru Seamonkey. Through an email account created in the Mail & Newsgroups window or web mail in the browser? -- OS: Linux Mint 19.1 - Cinnamon Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee wrote: >> scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. >>> >>> I use this. >>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 >>> >>> I can read my mail but can not delete emails. >>> >>> >>> Is there a fix other than using FF? >>> >> >> How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the >> SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. >> >> Dave > > Thru Seamonkey. > I am using the Mail and Newsgroup support in SeaMonkey. Are you using that or the browser? If you are using the Mail and Newsgroup support are you using POP3 or IMAP to access Yahoo mail? Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee wrote: > scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > > I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. > > > > I use this. > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 > > > > I can read my mail but can not delete emails. > > > > > > Is there a fix other than using FF? > > > > How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the > SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. > > Dave Thru Seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: > I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. > > I use this. > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 > > I can read my mail but can not delete emails. > > > Is there a fix other than using FF? > How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. I use this. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 I can read my mail but can not delete emails. Is there a fix other than using FF? Check here for strings http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php and if you are using PrefBar with the Real UA button you can install as many as you like and try. I use the version 7.1.1 and I run Seamonkey 2.48 and Windows 7 Pro: http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/archive.html Just a thought. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
