Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread PhillipJones

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


I agree Plain text looks awful and it doesn't stay a constant size
one post might be readable the next will be so fine I after hit zoom
5 or 6 times just to get it legible,


1) If you don't like the font used for plain text, choose another:

Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts

Select fonts for "Monospace" in the most common encodings. But see also:

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Message Display
...
Plain text messages
(•) Fixed Width (o) Variable Width

Select "Variable Width" if you prefer a proportional font.

So for example, if you want your plain text messages to display in
Mistral, have at it.

2) If they "don't stay a constant size," they're not plain text. You're
probably displaying PT/HTML messages in HTML instead of plain text:

View | Message Body As...

And you always have the option of setting a minimum font size for HTML at

Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts


I have all that set I am using Mono-spaced.

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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

PhillipJones wrote:


I agree Plain text looks awful and it doesn't stay a constant size
one post might be readable the next will be so fine I after hit zoom
5 or 6 times just to get it legible,


1) If you don't like the font used for plain text, choose another:

Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts

Select fonts for "Monospace" in the most common encodings. But see also:

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Message Display
...
Plain text messages
(•) Fixed Width (o) Variable Width

Select "Variable Width" if you prefer a proportional font.

So for example, if you want your plain text messages to display in 
Mistral, have at it.


2) If they "don't stay a constant size," they're not plain text. You're 
probably displaying PT/HTML messages in HTML instead of plain text:


View | Message Body As...

And you always have the option of setting a minimum font size for HTML at

Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts

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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
PhillipJones wrote:

>> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>> That's the behavior I'd prefer -- it seems logical. However, on all my
>>> computers, without the shift key, HTML gets converted to plain text,
>>> which looks awful.

I rather like Plain Text. At least it isn't the 24pt blue Comic Sans my 
old uncle uses - because *he* has vision problems and won't configure his 
own email program to use a size he can read. Instead, he foists it on all 
of his recipients.

> I agree Plain text looks awful and it doesn't stay a constant size one
> post might be readable the next will be so fine I after hit zoom 5 or 6
> times just to get it legible,

If your *Plain Text* is not all the same size, you have not configured 
your mail program correctly. Mine is set to 12pt Monospace, and it 
*always* is exactly that. 

If yours changes, you are not reading in Plain Text.

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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread PhillipJones

Gordon Weast wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Daniel wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to
adjust.

When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
looking like garbage.


Bill, I thought that if you replied to a "text" e-mail, your reply was
also a "text" e-mail. Similarly, if you're replying to an HTML e-mail,
your reply is in HTML.


That's the behavior I'd prefer -- it seems logical. However, on all my
computers, without the shift key, HTML gets converted to plain text,
which looks awful.



I agree Plain text looks awful and it doesn't stay a constant size one 
post might be readable the next will be so fine I after hit zoom 5 or 6 
times just to get it legible,






Unless you press the shift key, as you mention, which changes your reply
to the opposite format.

Have you had a look at Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format
to see if that might give you what you want??


Let me experiment. Right now I have that preference set to "send the
message in both plain text and HTML" -- because none of the other
options sounds closer to what I'm looking for. Also, because I've
never figured out how Seamonkey supposedly knows whether my recipients
are able to receive HTML -- I have no clue, so how could I instruct SM???




In the EDIT->'Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings' dialog, look at the
'Composition & Addressing' page for either your mail or newsgroups.

The top checkbox is for 'Compose messages in HTML format'.  If you check
that, then just hitting reply will compose in HTML and hitting shift
with reply will switch back to text, just the opposite of what you have
now.

In the Preferences dialog, you've already found the 'Send Format' page
where you can select which one to actually send.

In the address book, double click on the name of your chosen recipient.
  The dialog has a choice at the bottom for 'Prefers to receive messages
formatted as:'.  Select it there for each recipient.

Not as clean as it could be, but then HTML is really a pig when it comes
to taking network bandwidth.  But then again, bandwidth seems to be
pretty cheap these days, unless you're on a dial up...

Personally, I default to edit in text and then give me a choice on how
to send a message.  Most of the formatting is just silly eye candy.  Too
much candy isn't good for you...In the EDIT->'Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings' dialog, look at the 'Composition & Addressing' page for either
your mail or newsgroups.

The top checkbox is for 'Compose messages in HTML format'.  If you check
that, then just hitting reply will compose in HTML and hitting shift
with reply will switch back to text, just the opposite of what you have
now.

In the Preferences dialog, you've already found the 'Send Format' page
where you can select which one to actually send.

In the address book, double click on the name of your chosen recipient.
  The dialog has a choice at the bottom for 'Prefers to receive messages
formatted as:'.  Select it there for each recipient.

Not as clean as it could be, but then HTML is really a pig when it comes
to taking network bandwidth.  But then again, bandwidth seems to be
pretty cheap these days, unless you're on a dial up...

Personally, I default to edit in text and then give me a choice on how
to send a message.  Most of the formatting is just silly eye candy.  Too
much candy isn't good for you...




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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread PhillipJones

Gordon Weast wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Daniel wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to
adjust.

When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
looking like garbage.


Bill, I thought that if you replied to a "text" e-mail, your reply was
also a "text" e-mail. Similarly, if you're replying to an HTML e-mail,
your reply is in HTML.


That's the behavior I'd prefer -- it seems logical. However, on all my
computers, without the shift key, HTML gets converted to plain text,
which looks awful.



And I do have set to Fixed-width and to Large but doesn't make a bit of 
difference.






Unless you press the shift key, as you mention, which changes your reply
to the opposite format.

Have you had a look at Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format
to see if that might give you what you want??


Let me experiment. Right now I have that preference set to "send the
message in both plain text and HTML" -- because none of the other
options sounds closer to what I'm looking for. Also, because I've
never figured out how Seamonkey supposedly knows whether my recipients
are able to receive HTML -- I have no clue, so how could I instruct SM???




In the EDIT->'Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings' dialog, look at the
'Composition & Addressing' page for either your mail or newsgroups.

The top checkbox is for 'Compose messages in HTML format'.  If you check
that, then just hitting reply will compose in HTML and hitting shift
with reply will switch back to text, just the opposite of what you have
now.

In the Preferences dialog, you've already found the 'Send Format' page
where you can select which one to actually send.

In the address book, double click on the name of your chosen recipient.
  The dialog has a choice at the bottom for 'Prefers to receive messages
formatted as:'.  Select it there for each recipient.

Not as clean as it could be, but then HTML is really a pig when it comes
to taking network bandwidth.  But then again, bandwidth seems to be
pretty cheap these days, unless you're on a dial up...

Personally, I default to edit in text and then give me a choice on how
to send a message.  Most of the formatting is just silly eye candy.  Too
much candy isn't good for you...In the EDIT->'Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings' dialog, look at the 'Composition & Addressing' page for either
your mail or newsgroups.

The top checkbox is for 'Compose messages in HTML format'.  If you check
that, then just hitting reply will compose in HTML and hitting shift
with reply will switch back to text, just the opposite of what you have
now.

In the Preferences dialog, you've already found the 'Send Format' page
where you can select which one to actually send.

In the address book, double click on the name of your chosen recipient.
  The dialog has a choice at the bottom for 'Prefers to receive messages
formatted as:'.  Select it there for each recipient.

Not as clean as it could be, but then HTML is really a pig when it comes
to taking network bandwidth.  But then again, bandwidth seems to be
pretty cheap these days, unless you're on a dial up...

Personally, I default to edit in text and then give me a choice on how
to send a message.  Most of the formatting is just silly eye candy.  Too
much candy isn't good for you...




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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread Gordon Weast

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Daniel wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to adjust.

When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
looking like garbage.


Bill, I thought that if you replied to a "text" e-mail, your reply was
also a "text" e-mail. Similarly, if you're replying to an HTML e-mail,
your reply is in HTML.


That's the behavior I'd prefer -- it seems logical. However, on all my
computers, without the shift key, HTML gets converted to plain text,
which looks awful.





Unless you press the shift key, as you mention, which changes your reply
to the opposite format.

Have you had a look at Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format
to see if that might give you what you want??


Let me experiment. Right now I have that preference set to "send the
message in both plain text and HTML" -- because none of the other
options sounds closer to what I'm looking for. Also, because I've
never figured out how Seamonkey supposedly knows whether my recipients
are able to receive HTML -- I have no clue, so how could I instruct SM???



In the EDIT->'Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings' dialog, look at the 
'Composition & Addressing' page for either your mail or newsgroups.


The top checkbox is for 'Compose messages in HTML format'.  If you check 
that, then just hitting reply will compose in HTML and hitting shift 
with reply will switch back to text, just the opposite of what you have now.


In the Preferences dialog, you've already found the 'Send Format' page 
where you can select which one to actually send.


In the address book, double click on the name of your chosen recipient. 
 The dialog has a choice at the bottom for 'Prefers to receive messages 
formatted as:'.  Select it there for each recipient.


Not as clean as it could be, but then HTML is really a pig when it comes 
to taking network bandwidth.  But then again, bandwidth seems to be 
pretty cheap these days, unless you're on a dial up...


Personally, I default to edit in text and then give me a choice on how 
to send a message.  Most of the formatting is just silly eye candy.  Too 
much candy isn't good for you...In the EDIT->'Mail & Newsgroups Account 
Settings' dialog, look at the 'Composition & Addressing' page for either 
your mail or newsgroups.


The top checkbox is for 'Compose messages in HTML format'.  If you check 
that, then just hitting reply will compose in HTML and hitting shift 
with reply will switch back to text, just the opposite of what you have now.


In the Preferences dialog, you've already found the 'Send Format' page 
where you can select which one to actually send.


In the address book, double click on the name of your chosen recipient. 
 The dialog has a choice at the bottom for 'Prefers to receive messages 
formatted as:'.  Select it there for each recipient.


Not as clean as it could be, but then HTML is really a pig when it comes 
to taking network bandwidth.  But then again, bandwidth seems to be 
pretty cheap these days, unless you're on a dial up...


Personally, I default to edit in text and then give me a choice on how 
to send a message.  Most of the formatting is just silly eye candy.  Too 
much candy isn't good for you...


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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread BIll Spikowski
Daniel wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
>> HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to adjust.
>>
>> When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
>> in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
>> hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
>> time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
>> looking like garbage.
> 
> Bill, I thought that if you replied to a "text" e-mail, your reply was 
> also a "text" e-mail. Similarly, if you're replying to an HTML e-mail, 
> your reply is in HTML.

That's the behavior I'd prefer -- it seems logical. However, on all my
computers, without the shift key, HTML gets converted to plain text,
which looks awful.




> Unless you press the shift key, as you mention, which changes your reply 
> to the opposite format.
> 
> Have you had a look at Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format 
> to see if that might give you what you want??

Let me experiment. Right now I have that preference set to "send the
message in both plain text and HTML" -- because none of the other
options sounds closer to what I'm looking for. Also, because I've
never figured out how Seamonkey supposedly knows whether my recipients
are able to receive HTML -- I have no clue, so how could I instruct SM???



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Re: Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-09 Thread Daniel

BIll Spikowski wrote:

I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to adjust.

When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
looking like garbage.


Bill, I thought that if you replied to a "text" e-mail, your reply was 
also a "text" e-mail. Similarly, if you're replying to an HTML e-mail, 
your reply is in HTML.


Unless you press the shift key, as you mention, which changes your reply 
to the opposite format.


Have you had a look at Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format 
to see if that might give you what you want??


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Replaying to HTML emails in kind?

2013-09-08 Thread BIll Spikowski
I dislike HTML e-mail and almost never voluntarily compose one in
HTML, but it seems they're everywhere these days and I'm trying to adjust.

When replying or forwarding an HTML email, is there any way to do so
in kind automatically? I've learned to hold down the shift key before
hitting "reply" or "forward," but still I forget every third or fourth
time and have to go back and do it again to avoid the quoted material
looking like garbage.

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