Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Ralph
I have found that with version 2.1 (perhaps it happened before but did 
not notice)when I reply to a message (email or in this group) not all of 
the original message is captured and displayed in my new email


Is this a settings thing.. or??
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Re: Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:26:21 -0700, /Ralph/:

 I have found that with version 2.1 (perhaps it happened before but did

I guess you've meant version 2.0.1, but 2.1 snapshots should be the
same.

 not notice)when I reply to a message (email or in this group) not all of
 the original message is captured and displayed in my new email
 
 Is this a settings thing.. or??

If you've selected part of the original message only this part will
be quoted.  Remove the selection from the original message view
prior replying to quote the whole message.

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Re: Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Ralph

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:26:21 -0700, /Ralph/:


I have found that with version 2.1 (perhaps it happened before but did


I guess you've meant version 2.0.1, but 2.1 snapshots should be the
same.


not notice)when I reply to a message (email or in this group) not all of
the original message is captured and displayed in my new email

Is this a settings thing.. or??


If you've selected part of the original message only this part will
be quoted.  Remove the selection from the original message view
prior replying to quote the whole message.



Thanks for the reply.. You are right about 2.0.1.. sorry
I think I have found what is causing my problem.
It seems that -- marks that SM puts above the name of the sender or 
perhaps part of the signature causes SM to NOT include anything past 
that point. Thus in this response your

--
Stanimir
is not included.
So... if someone replies and the signature or name is above any previous 
text it will not show as part of the response.


This seems to a be a new issue that I have not noticed before.

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Re: Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:40:25 -0700, /Ralph/:

 I think I have found what is causing my problem.
 It seems that -- marks that SM puts above the name of the sender or
 perhaps part of the signature causes SM to NOT include anything past
 that point. Thus in this response your
 --
 Stanimir
 is not included.
 So... if someone replies and the signature or name is above any previous
 text it will not show as part of the response.
 
 This seems to a be a new issue that I have not noticed before.

This is a long lasting convention in mail and news on the Internet
(just do some search for standard sig delimiter) and it is by no
means a new behavior - it is like this at least since I'm using the
Mozilla Suite (somewhere around the 0.9.2 version).  As signatures
bring no value to the matter of a certain topic they are
automatically stripped from the quoted text on reply, when marked
using the standard delimiter.  If the signature is not marked using
the standard delimiter, it is responsibility of the replier to strip
that part (and other irrelevant to the reply parts) from the quotes.
 To indicate the author of the original text there are attribution
lines at the beginning of quotes.  If for whatever reason you want
to quote a signature - just do it manually by copy-pasting it from
the original message.

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Re: Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/26/2009 12:40 PM, Ralph wrote:
 Thanks for the reply.. You are right about 2.0.1.. sorry
 I think I have found what is causing my problem.
 It seems that -- marks that SM puts above the name of the sender or 
 perhaps part of the signature causes SM to NOT include anything past 
 that point. Thus in this response your
 --
 Stanimir
 is not included.
 So... if someone replies and the signature or name is above any previous 
 text it will not show as part of the response.
 
 This seems to a be a new issue that I have not noticed before.
 

Perhaps you haven't noticed it, but it is not new - not by a long shot.

The characters you are referring to are called the Signature Delimiter.
This consists, actually, of three characters, plus a line terminator.
The three characters are dash, dash and space. The line terminator means
these characters must be on a line by themselves (not preceded or followed
with any other characters).

Any proper e-mail/news client should treat the content after the signature
delimiter as a signature, and thus not part of the actual message. In
message clients that I use, it does two things differently with signature
blocks:

1. It shows the signature information in a stippled/grayed-out text, so
it's easy to see it's not part of the message, and;

2. It strips the signature block from the message when replying, as the
signature is not really part of the original message, it doesn't need to
be included in the reply.

I'll include a signature below, so you can see what I mean.

I hope this helps.

-- 
Well, this is my signature block. It would normally just include my name
or perhaps a pithy quote.
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Re: Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Leonidas Jones

Ralph wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:26:21 -0700, /Ralph/:

/snip/

Thanks for the reply.. You are right about 2.0.1.. sorry
I think I have found what is causing my problem.
It seems that -- marks that SM puts above the name of the sender or
perhaps part of the signature causes SM to NOT include anything past
that point. Thus in this response your
--
Stanimir
is not included.
So... if someone replies and the signature or name is above any previous
text it will not show as part of the response.

This seems to a be a new issue that I have not noticed before.



Its called a signature, or sig delimiter, and that is its exact 
purpose. Its consists of two dashes and a space (hence your example 
above does not work) and it informs the newsreader that any material 
after it is aig file and is not to included in the quote.


This is to avoid the problem of having multiple sigs, which rarely have 
anything to do with the thread, reposted over and over again for no real 
reason.


Note, this only works with bottom posted sigs.  If you set your sig to 
posted other then at the bottom, SeaMonkey will not add the delimiter.


Lee
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Re: Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Ray_Net

Ralph wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:26:21 -0700, /Ralph/:


I have found that with version 2.1 (perhaps it happened before but did


I guess you've meant version 2.0.1, but 2.1 snapshots should be the
same.


not notice)when I reply to a message (email or in this group) not all of
the original message is captured and displayed in my new email

Is this a settings thing.. or??


If you've selected part of the original message only this part will
be quoted.  Remove the selection from the original message view
prior replying to quote the whole message.



Thanks for the reply.. You are right about 2.0.1.. sorry
I think I have found what is causing my problem.
It seems that -- marks that SM puts above the name of the sender or 
perhaps part of the signature causes SM to NOT include anything past 
that point. Thus in this response your

--
Stanimir
is not included.
So... if someone replies and the signature or name is above any previous 
text it will not show as part of the response.


This seems to a be a new issue that I have not noticed before.

When as signature -- mark stop you to reply with all the text under 
... you can include all the text when replying by first doing Select 
all then reply.

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Re: Reply.. does not pick up all of message

2009-12-26 Thread Ralph

Ralph wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:26:21 -0700, /Ralph/:


I have found that with version 2.1 (perhaps it happened before but did


I guess you've meant version 2.0.1, but 2.1 snapshots should be the
same.


not notice)when I reply to a message (email or in this group) not all of
the original message is captured and displayed in my new email

Is this a settings thing.. or??


If you've selected part of the original message only this part will
be quoted. Remove the selection from the original message view
prior replying to quote the whole message.



Thanks for the reply.. You are right about 2.0.1.. sorry
I think I have found what is causing my problem.
It seems that -- marks that SM puts above the name of the sender or
perhaps part of the signature causes SM to NOT include anything past
that point. Thus in this response your
--
Stanimir
is not included.
So... if someone replies and the signature or name is above any previous
text it will not show as part of the response.

This seems to a be a new issue that I have not noticed before.

Thanks to all that replied.. I had not noticed it before and it only 
became an issue on a response I wanted to make where my original text 
was below this signature.. and consequently was not included in my reply


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