Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:


I usually unsubscribe then re-subscribe. It's a lot quicker.


I picked View > Threads with unread.  That way, I get the whole
thread so that I can refer back to earlier messages in it if I need
to do that.


That works if you also choose View | Messages | All. If you choose View
| Messages | Unread instead, you don't get the whole thread.

That is what I did.  I have View > Messages > All and View > Threads > 
Threads with unread.  I also did not want to see old threads with 
nothing new in them, so I set SM to load only unread content (except for 
the threads).


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Daniel]

On 7/10/2016 11:49 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 10/5/2016 11:46 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 6/10/2016 8:58 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 10/5/2016 5:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed
to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of
those news groups.

Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might
it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then
just re-subscribe??

TIA



You can easily find the path to the file this way:
Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings|news.eternal-september.org|Server Settings - and there you will
find under 'Message Storage' the path to the newsrc file. Example:

Linux
/home//.mozilla/seamonkey/.default/News/newsrc-news.eternal-september.org

Windows
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\News\newsrc-news.eternal-september.org

Click the 'Browse' button and you'll be taken to the file folder. Look
for the newsrc file for the appropriate newsgroup
(newsrc-news.eternal-september.org).


Thanks for this, NoOp. That is basically what I was doing, where I was
going, but I don't get a chance to Edit it, either using Right Click or
Organise.


You can't edit from within SeaMonkey. Copy the path, close SeaMonkey and
go to Windows Explorer, paste in the path and edit the file from there.



Even with-in Windows Explorer, when I highlight the file and either 
Right Click (nothing to Open File), Organise (nothing to Open File) or 
"Open" (Windows can't open this file: File: 
newrc-news.eternal-september.org).


Even if I open Notepad, and select File->Open, I can work my way down to 
the News directory and select the news.external-september.org file, but 
when I select "Open", the screen says "No items match your search"


The newrc-news.eternal-september.org file is not listed in the "Open" 
screen!


No problem, I've resubscribed to the news group and got heaps of 
messages to read or to Mark as Read.


Thanks!

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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Daniel]

On 6/10/2016 6:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 6/10/2016 5:50 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:


I usually unsubscribe then re-subscribe. It's a lot quicker.


I picked View > Threads with unread.  That way, I get the whole
thread so that I can refer back to earlier messages in it if I need
to do that.


That works if you also choose View | Messages | All. If you choose View
| Messages | Unread instead, you don't get the whole thread.


And, as I've accidentally marked the Group as All Read, there are no
UnRead messages, except for the last few days posts!!


Well, that's fixable, if you want...

Suppose you want to go farther back and mark all messages since oh,
September 20 as unread. I assume some but not all messages since then
are marked as unread.

Begin by choosing
 View | Threads | All
and
 View | Messages | All
You'll get something like 99,000 messages in the list. Also choose
 View | Sort by | ... Unthreaded
(don't bother with the other two sort settings).

Next, click the column heading "Date" to sort by date.

Scroll to the bottom (if newest are last) or top (if newest are first)
and select the last/first message as appropriate.

Scroll to the desired cutoff point (the first Sept. 20 message), and
while holding the Shift key, click on that message to select all
messages since then.

Press the "M" on your keyboard to toggle Read/Unread, and if the result
is Read (not boldface), press it again to make them Unread (boldface).

Now restore your original View settings and you're good to go. You may
have to navigate away from the group and back to get SM to refresh the
display, but that's only two clicks.

*Now you tell me * !! After just downloading all 135,000 headers, I 
could have done with knowing/remembering this "Press the "M" on your 
keyboard to toggle Read/Unread" trick.


One day, One Day!!

Thanks anyway, Paul. ;-)

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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[NoOp]

On 10/5/2016 11:46 PM, Daniel wrote:
> On 6/10/2016 8:58 AM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 10/5/2016 5:55 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>> I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for
>>> my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed
>>> to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of
>>> those news groups.
>>>
>>> Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is
>>> eternal-september, so I think the name is something like
>>> newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might
>>> it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then
>>> just re-subscribe??
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>
>> You can easily find the path to the file this way:
>> Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account
>> Settings|news.eternal-september.org|Server Settings - and there you will
>> find under 'Message Storage' the path to the newsrc file. Example:
>>
>> Linux
>> /home//.mozilla/seamonkey/.default/News/newsrc-news.eternal-september.org
>>
>> Windows
>> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\News\newsrc-news.eternal-september.org
>>
>> Click the 'Browse' button and you'll be taken to the file folder. Look
>> for the newsrc file for the appropriate newsgroup
>> (newsrc-news.eternal-september.org).
> 
> Thanks for this, NoOp. That is basically what I was doing, where I was 
> going, but I don't get a chance to Edit it, either using Right Click or 
> Organise.

You can't edit from within SeaMonkey. Copy the path, close SeaMonkey and
go to Windows Explorer, paste in the path and edit the file from there.


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[sean . nathan]

Daniel wrote:

I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed
to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of
those news groups.

Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might
it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then
just re-subscribe??

TIA



With Seamonkey closed, i usually delete all the .msf files for the 
specific accounts I'm wanting to reset... and the hostinfo.dat file... 
all recreated upon next launch

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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

On 6/10/2016 5:50 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:


I usually unsubscribe then re-subscribe. It's a lot quicker.


I picked View > Threads with unread.  That way, I get the whole
thread so that I can refer back to earlier messages in it if I need
to do that.


That works if you also choose View | Messages | All. If you choose View
| Messages | Unread instead, you don't get the whole thread.


And, as I've accidentally marked the Group as All Read, there are no
UnRead messages, except for the last few days posts!!


Well, that's fixable, if you want...

Suppose you want to go farther back and mark all messages since oh, 
September 20 as unread. I assume some but not all messages since then 
are marked as unread.


Begin by choosing
View | Threads | All
and
View | Messages | All
You'll get something like 99,000 messages in the list. Also choose
View | Sort by | ... Unthreaded
(don't bother with the other two sort settings).

Next, click the column heading "Date" to sort by date.

Scroll to the bottom (if newest are last) or top (if newest are first) 
and select the last/first message as appropriate.


Scroll to the desired cutoff point (the first Sept. 20 message), and 
while holding the Shift key, click on that message to select all 
messages since then.


Press the "M" on your keyboard to toggle Read/Unread, and if the result 
is Read (not boldface), press it again to make them Unread (boldface).


Now restore your original View settings and you're good to go. You may 
have to navigate away from the group and back to get SM to refresh the 
display, but that's only two clicks.


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Daniel]

On 6/10/2016 8:58 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 10/5/2016 5:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed
to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of
those news groups.

Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might
it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then
just re-subscribe??

TIA



You can easily find the path to the file this way:
Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings|news.eternal-september.org|Server Settings - and there you will
find under 'Message Storage' the path to the newsrc file. Example:

Linux
/home//.mozilla/seamonkey/.default/News/newsrc-news.eternal-september.org

Windows
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\News\newsrc-news.eternal-september.org

Click the 'Browse' button and you'll be taken to the file folder. Look
for the newsrc file for the appropriate newsgroup
(newsrc-news.eternal-september.org).


Thanks for this, NoOp. That is basically what I was doing, where I was 
going, but I don't get a chance to Edit it, either using Right Click or 
Organise.



You can edit if you wish, but it's not easy as you get something like this:

alt.comp.linux: 1-1480,1489,1493-1497,1529-1532,1534,1570-1572
alt.os.linux: 
1-7071,7132,7333,7784-7786,7791,7796,7804,7806,7812,7814,7817,7819,7822,7825,7841,7846,7847,7872,7873,7964-7966,8048
alt.os.linux.debian: 
1-3934,3979,3981,3983-3987,3993,4000,4008,4013-4021,4024,4026-4028,4030,4035,4050,4069,4070,4072,4074,4076,4077,4079,4086,4103,4695-4697,4699-4703,4706,4711,4712,4716,4728,4729,4737-4743,4746-4777,4812,4814,4815
alt.os.linux.mint: 1-3646,3925-4501,5948,5949,5953,5977,5983,5998,6001

So unless you know what all of that means & how to edit it, I recommend
just unsubscribing and resubscribing as suggested by others in this
thread. Alternate is to close SeaMonkey and delete the .msf files for
the group (look in the actual newsgroup folder) & restart SeaMonkey -
that is pretty much to the same as unsubscribing and resubscribing, but
keeps the group in the same location instead of placing it at the bottom
of the list of subscribed groups (helpful if you've already arranged
your groups by subject etc).


Yeap. As I understand it, the numbers represent the Read message numbers 
in each group. I figured if I edit ed the appropriate group to be, e.g. 
"alt.os.linux:  "with no numbers after it, that would indicate that 
there were no Read messages so everyone would appear as Unread!!


As I don't seem to be able to Edit the file, I might end up 
UnSubscribing/Re-Subscribing as you suggest (after I read the other 
responses  thanks fellas!).


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Daniel]

On 6/10/2016 5:50 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:


I usually unsubscribe then re-subscribe. It's a lot quicker.


I picked View > Threads with unread.  That way, I get the whole
thread so that I can refer back to earlier messages in it if I need
to do that.


That works if you also choose View | Messages | All. If you choose View
| Messages | Unread instead, you don't get the whole thread.

And, as I've accidentally, marked the Group as All Read, there are no 
UnRead messages, except for the last few days posts!!


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[NoOp]

On 10/5/2016 5:55 AM, Daniel wrote:
> I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for 
> my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed 
> to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of 
> those news groups.
> 
> Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is 
> eternal-september, so I think the name is something like 
> newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might 
> it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then 
> just re-subscribe??
> 
> TIA
> 

You can easily find the path to the file this way:
Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account
Settings|news.eternal-september.org|Server Settings - and there you will
find under 'Message Storage' the path to the newsrc file. Example:

Linux
/home//.mozilla/seamonkey/.default/News/newsrc-news.eternal-september.org

Windows
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\News\newsrc-news.eternal-september.org

Click the 'Browse' button and you'll be taken to the file folder. Look
for the newsrc file for the appropriate newsgroup
(newsrc-news.eternal-september.org).

You can edit if you wish, but it's not easy as you get something like this:
> alt.comp.linux: 1-1480,1489,1493-1497,1529-1532,1534,1570-1572
> alt.os.linux: 
> 1-7071,7132,7333,7784-7786,7791,7796,7804,7806,7812,7814,7817,7819,7822,7825,7841,7846,7847,7872,7873,7964-7966,8048
> alt.os.linux.debian: 
> 1-3934,3979,3981,3983-3987,3993,4000,4008,4013-4021,4024,4026-4028,4030,4035,4050,4069,4070,4072,4074,4076,4077,4079,4086,4103,4695-4697,4699-4703,4706,4711,4712,4716,4728,4729,4737-4743,4746-4777,4812,4814,4815
> alt.os.linux.mint: 1-3646,3925-4501,5948,5949,5953,5977,5983,5998,6001
So unless you know what all of that means & how to edit it, I recommend
just unsubscribing and resubscribing as suggested by others in this
thread. Alternate is to close SeaMonkey and delete the .msf files for
the group (look in the actual newsgroup folder) & restart SeaMonkey -
that is pretty much to the same as unsubscribing and resubscribing, but
keeps the group in the same location instead of placing it at the bottom
of the list of subscribed groups (helpful if you've already arranged
your groups by subject etc).




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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:


I usually unsubscribe then re-subscribe. It's a lot quicker.


I picked View > Threads with unread.  That way, I get the whole
thread so that I can refer back to earlier messages in it if I need
to do that.


That works if you also choose View | Messages | All. If you choose View 
| Messages | Unread instead, you don't get the whole thread.


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[EE]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/05/2016 08:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have
subscribed to on that news server and which messages I have read
with-in each of those news groups.

Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or
might it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and
then just re-subscribe??

TIA



I usually unsubscribe then re-subscribe. It's a lot quicker.

I picked View > Threads with unread.  That way, I get the whole thread 
so that I can refer back to earlier messages in it if I need to do that.


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Chris Ilias]

On 05/10/2016 8:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed
to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of
those news groups.

Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might
it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then
just re-subscribe??

TIA



news.eternal-september.org.rc

newsrc-news.eternal-september.org is the file name on Mac and maybe 
Linux too.

Yes, you can edit the file in Notepad.
Easier? Depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[WaltS48]

On 10/05/2016 08:55 AM, Daniel wrote:
I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for 
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed 
to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of 
those news groups.


Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is 
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like 
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might 
it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then 
just re-subscribe??


TIA



I usually unsubscribe then re-subscribe. It's a lot quicker.

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Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Daniel]

I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for 
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed 
to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of 
those news groups.


Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is 
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like 
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might 
it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then 
just re-subscribe??


TIA

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