Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
Doors wrote: On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 12:28:36 +0100, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Doors wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 19:15:39 +0100, "Nuno Silva" wrote: Any chance this one said the following?: "Access Denied You don't have permission to access "[address]" on this server. Reference #[number].[number].[number]" That'd be blacklisting by Akamai: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362 That looks correct. Confusing part is I could pull up the same page on FF no problem. That was annoying. Fail on SM, work on FF, same address, same minute. Load root of newegg, works. Go anywhere on site, fail. Really started bugging me. Do you block JavaScript, or use an extension which blocks it, on SeaMonkey? I had similar issues some time ago with a couple of sites I use, with NoScript in my case blocking scripts by default. I think they turned out to be using Akami. Allowing the domain to run scripts resolved the problem. It was no good loading the site and then temporarily allowing scripting for it though, as they seemed to decide on loading the first page that I was going to be blocked for any further requests (even just reloading the home page I was already looking at lead to access denied). As I recall, I think I could enable scripting and then delete cookies set for the domain, so seems something was stored in cookies on that first load, which caused the problem for subsequent requests even if scripts were then enabled. But it was easier to just permanently allow JavaScript for those domains. I rebuilt the profile by creating a clean one, then manually importing pieces one by one. Now it works, but no idea why. My plugins are simple. DOM inspector, epubreader, restart, show password, & umatrix. Everything is the same as it was before, only now it works. Really weird. I'd suspect something different in the configuration of uMatrix between the two profiles. That allows you to control which sites can run scripts (amongst other things). I thought it blocked scripts by default, but perhaps somehow in your new profile it's allowing scripts to run for the sites you have problems with, while in your old profile it's blocking them (or perhaps one of the other things it blocks). -- Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 12:28:36 +0100, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: >Doors wrote: >> On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 19:15:39 +0100, "Nuno Silva" >> wrote: >>> Any chance this one said the following?: >>> >>> "Access Denied >>> >>> You don't have permission to access "[address]" on this server. >>> >>> Reference #[number].[number].[number]" >>> >>> >>> >>> That'd be blacklisting by Akamai: >>> >>> https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753 >>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362 >> >> That looks correct. >> Confusing part is I could pull up the same page on FF no problem. >> That was annoying. >> Fail on SM, work on FF, same address, same minute. >> Load root of newegg, works. >> Go anywhere on site, fail. >> >> Really started bugging me. > >Do you block JavaScript, or use an extension which blocks it, on >SeaMonkey? I had similar issues some time ago with a couple of sites I >use, with NoScript in my case blocking scripts by default. I think they >turned out to be using Akami. Allowing the domain to run scripts >resolved the problem. > >It was no good loading the site and then temporarily allowing scripting >for it though, as they seemed to decide on loading the first page that I >was going to be blocked for any further requests (even just reloading >the home page I was already looking at lead to access denied). As I >recall, I think I could enable scripting and then delete cookies set for >the domain, so seems something was stored in cookies on that first load, >which caused the problem for subsequent requests even if scripts were >then enabled. But it was easier to just permanently allow JavaScript >for those domains. I rebuilt the profile by creating a clean one, then manually importing pieces one by one. Now it works, but no idea why. My plugins are simple. DOM inspector, epubreader, restart, show password, & umatrix. Everything is the same as it was before, only now it works. Really weird. -- Doors - Dont look at the future in a window. Walk to a door - Open it, and go there. http://www.freedoors.org AntiSpam in effect! doorsremov...@freedoors.org mailto:doorsremov...@freedoors.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
meagain wrote: https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/accs/maintenance/windows-7-computers-to-be-blocked-january-14-2020 This explains why some sites and others are blocking Win7. Only if you're at North Dakota State University, otherwise it's completely irrelevant. That page is describing their policy of blocking Windows 7 from connecting within their network. -- Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
Original Message Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access denied messages, it varies. Yes I have tried in safe mode. Yes I have tried a clean profile. Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM. Yes I have tried with identify as FF. Portable version of FF60 works fine. Anybody else having this problem Or is this just life having some fun at my expense? https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/accs/maintenance/windows-7-computers-to-be-blocked-january-14-2020 This explains why some sites and others are blocking Win7. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
Doors wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 19:15:39 +0100, "Nuno Silva" wrote: Any chance this one said the following?: "Access Denied You don't have permission to access "[address]" on this server. Reference #[number].[number].[number]" That'd be blacklisting by Akamai: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362 That looks correct. Confusing part is I could pull up the same page on FF no problem. That was annoying. Fail on SM, work on FF, same address, same minute. Load root of newegg, works. Go anywhere on site, fail. Really started bugging me. Do you block JavaScript, or use an extension which blocks it, on SeaMonkey? I had similar issues some time ago with a couple of sites I use, with NoScript in my case blocking scripts by default. I think they turned out to be using Akami. Allowing the domain to run scripts resolved the problem. It was no good loading the site and then temporarily allowing scripting for it though, as they seemed to decide on loading the first page that I was going to be blocked for any further requests (even just reloading the home page I was already looking at lead to access denied). As I recall, I think I could enable scripting and then delete cookies set for the domain, so seems something was stored in cookies on that first load, which caused the problem for subsequent requests even if scripts were then enabled. But it was easier to just permanently allow JavaScript for those domains. -- Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 19:15:39 +0100, "Nuno Silva"
wrote:
>On 2020-07-18, Doors wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:23:24 -0700, Doors
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few
>>>random websites.
>>>
>>>With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem.
>>>Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the
>>>home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access
>>>denied messages, it varies.
>>>
>>>Yes I have tried in safe mode.
>>>Yes I have tried a clean profile.
>>>Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM.
>>>Yes I have tried with identify as FF.
>>>
>>>Portable version of FF60 works fine.
>>>
>>>Anybody else having this problem
>>>Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?
>>
>> My bad for forgetting, sorry.
>> Win7 Pro x64 with x64 version of SM 2.53.3
>> OpenShell, 7+ taskbar switcher, network activity indicator, explorer++
>> With everything made as XP classic as possible.
>> I find the default Win7 GUI effectively unusable.
>> Later windows are even worse in my own opinion.
>>
>> The two errors I got are.
>> Blank page. {View source shows JS}
>> Access Denied: bignumber.bignumber.number
>
>
>Any chance this one said the following?:
>
>"Access Denied
>
>You don't have permission to access "[address]" on this server.
>
>Reference #[number].[number].[number]"
>
>
>
>That'd be blacklisting by Akamai:
>
>https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753
>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362
That looks correct.
Confusing part is I could pull up the same page on FF no problem.
That was annoying.
Fail on SM, work on FF, same address, same minute.
Load root of newegg, works.
Go anywhere on site, fail.
Really started bugging me.
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Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
On 2020-07-18, Doors wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:23:24 -0700, Doors
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few
>>random websites.
>>
>>With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem.
>>Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the
>>home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access
>>denied messages, it varies.
>>
>>Yes I have tried in safe mode.
>>Yes I have tried a clean profile.
>>Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM.
>>Yes I have tried with identify as FF.
>>
>>Portable version of FF60 works fine.
>>
>>Anybody else having this problem
>>Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?
>
> My bad for forgetting, sorry.
> Win7 Pro x64 with x64 version of SM 2.53.3
> OpenShell, 7+ taskbar switcher, network activity indicator, explorer++
> With everything made as XP classic as possible.
> I find the default Win7 GUI effectively unusable.
> Later windows are even worse in my own opinion.
>
> The two errors I got are.
> Blank page. {View source shows JS}
> Access Denied: bignumber.bignumber.number
Any chance this one said the following?:
"Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "[address]" on this server.
Reference #[number].[number].[number]"
That'd be blacklisting by Akamai:
https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362
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Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:23:24 -0700, Doors
wrote:
>
>Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few
>random websites.
>
>With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem.
>Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the
>home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access
>denied messages, it varies.
>
>Yes I have tried in safe mode.
>Yes I have tried a clean profile.
>Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM.
>Yes I have tried with identify as FF.
>
>Portable version of FF60 works fine.
>
>Anybody else having this problem
>Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?
My bad for forgetting, sorry.
Win7 Pro x64 with x64 version of SM 2.53.3
OpenShell, 7+ taskbar switcher, network activity indicator, explorer++
With everything made as XP classic as possible.
I find the default Win7 GUI effectively unusable.
Later windows are even worse in my own opinion.
The two errors I got are.
Blank page. {View source shows JS}
Access Denied: bignumber.bignumber.number
Newegg is the one I really care about though.
They supply my computer parts fix.
Without them and arduino I would be lost.
I made a fresh Win7 profile, different username.
Made a clean SM 2.53.3 profile in it.
Newegg worked:
Closed and restarted SM at each step below.
Reinstalled addons one by one.
Dom Inspector, Restart App, Show pwd, umatrix.
Newegg worked after each one:
Copied the parts of the failed profile one by one.
Bookmarks, Cookies, Passwords, etc.
Newegg Worked at each step.
Newegg worked when all parts copied.
Copied working SM profile back to original user profile.
Newegg Worked:
Very annoying, but it is working now.
I still have no idea what went wrong.
But I fixed it, yay?
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Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
On 2020-07-17, Doors wrote: > Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few > random websites. > > With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. > Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the > home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access > denied messages, it varies. What do these messages say when they appear? Is the message the same for different websites? > Yes I have tried in safe mode. > Yes I have tried a clean profile. > Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM. > Yes I have tried with identify as FF. > > Portable version of FF60 works fine. > > Anybody else having this problem > Or is this just life having some fun at my expense? -- Nuno Silva ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
I'm using an iMac and have no problems with the Newegg web page (newegg.ca) using WG9s build User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.4 Doors wrote: Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access denied messages, it varies. Yes I have tried in safe mode. Yes I have tried a clean profile. Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM. Yes I have tried with identify as FF. Portable version of FF60 works fine. Anybody else having this problem Or is this just life having some fun at my expense? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
Doors wrote: Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access denied messages, it varies. Yes I have tried in safe mode. Yes I have tried a clean profile. Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM. Yes I have tried with identify as FF. Portable version of FF60 works fine. Anybody else having this problem Or is this just life having some fun at my expense? Bad install? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
On 7/17/20 12:23 PM, Doors wrote: Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access denied messages, it varies. Yes I have tried in safe mode. Yes I have tried a clean profile. Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM. Yes I have tried with identify as FF. Portable version of FF60 works fine. Anybody else having this problem Or is this just life having some fun at my expense? Maybe your Win7 changes are interfering. -- OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/ Why didn't he Make America Great Again in the first term? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
No problems with Newegg.com's web site with my SeaMonkey v2.53.3 (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3) web browser in my updated decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. I only clicked on a few links from its home page and searches. You didn't tell us which OS you use since your e-mail headers doesn't show that information with your Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 usenet client. Have you tried using a brand new user account in your OS too? On 7/17/2020 9:23 AM, Doors wrote: Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access denied messages, it varies. Yes I have tried in safe mode. Yes I have tried a clean profile. Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM. Yes I have tried with identify as FF. Portable version of FF60 works fine. Anybody else having this problem Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?-- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
Doors wrote: Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. You need to provide an exact URL to a page that can be checked by others without signing in, and also clarify the exact error or behaviour that you are seeing. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more, will load the home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access denied messages, it varies. Yes I have tried in safe mode. Yes I have tried a clean profile. Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM. Yes I have tried with identify as FF. Portable version of FF60 works fine. Anybody else having this problem Or is this just life having some fun at my expense? -- Doors - Dont look at the future in a window. Walk to a door - Open it, and go there. http://www.freedoors.org AntiSpam in effect! doorsremov...@freedoors.org mailto:doorsremov...@freedoors.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
