Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-09 Thread NoOp
On 02/08/2012 07:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/8/12 4:58 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 Tested with:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0)
 Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20111228
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021
 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5  
 
 This one seems to work (Win7):
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0.1)
 Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1
 
 
 
 Okay.  I went to http://www.google.com/ with all cookies blocked and
 no prior google.com cookies.  Then I SUCCESSFULLY did your #3 and #4.  I
 actually tried several links, and all worked for both #3 and #4.
 

Earlier today I tried on 2.7 and got:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=testsource=webcd=1ved=0CDYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2Fei=exU0T8ibCcXy2QXpwayXAgusg=AFQjCNFOu11ntRBzX7MsPNhB_fDzErp8qg
(I still have the tab open from this morning).

But now testing succesfully redirects to test.com. Checked on the other
machines: 2.5  the 64bit 2.7, WinXP 2.7, and they all work now. Odd, as
I've changed nothing (on any of the machines) - so I can't help but
think it may have been a glitch on google's side. I'll switch back from
yahoo! to google  see if it borks.

Again, thanks for testing David - much appreciated.

Gary
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Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-09 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/9/12 2:09 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/08/2012 07:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/8/12 4:58 PM, NoOp wrote:
 ...
 Tested with:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0)
 Gecko/20120129 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20111228
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021
 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 

 This one seems to work (Win7):
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0.1)
 Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1



 Okay.  I went to http://www.google.com/ with all cookies blocked and
 no prior google.com cookies.  Then I SUCCESSFULLY did your #3 and #4.  I
 actually tried several links, and all worked for both #3 and #4.

 
 Earlier today I tried on 2.7 and got:
 http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=testsource=webcd=1ved=0CDYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2Fei=exU0T8ibCcXy2QXpwayXAgusg=AFQjCNFOu11ntRBzX7MsPNhB_fDzErp8qg
 (I still have the tab open from this morning).
 
 But now testing succesfully redirects to test.com. Checked on the other
 machines: 2.5  the 64bit 2.7, WinXP 2.7, and they all work now. Odd, as
 I've changed nothing (on any of the machines) - so I can't help but
 think it may have been a glitch on google's side. I'll switch back from
 yahoo! to google  see if it borks.
 
 Again, thanks for testing David - much appreciated.

Your quite welcom.

Note that, merely because I could not recreate your problem, I never
said you don't have a problem.  Too often, I have a problem that I can
recreate at will but that no one else has seen.

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http://www.rossde.com/.

Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive
bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
© 1997 by David E. Ross
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Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-08 Thread NoOp
On 02/07/2012 08:04 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/7/12 5:38 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/07/2012 05:21 PM, NoOp wrote:
 ...
 Using the above, I am able to search, link, etc., on yahoo.com etc.,
 without issue. It is only google.com, and only since a few hours ago
 that this started.

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 but experiencing the exact same issue on a completely different machine
 with the 64bit version of SM 2.7 (final) and working Firefox 10.0.
 
 I've just replicated on the Windows versions of SM 2.7 (even pre-beta)
 and Firefox 10. So the issue is not OS build specific.
 
 Windows XP SP3
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 SeaMonkey/2.7
 
 I just now successfully used Google for a search with cookies blocked
 after I deleted all prior Google cookies.  Is it possible you have a
 problem with an extension?  Try your searches in Safe Mode.
 

Thanks for testing David. Yes, I did try both in safe mode, and with a
completely new profile - had the same results on two two different linux
machines (one 32bit, one 64bit), and one Windows XP Pro SP3.

I guess the question still remains why Firefox 10.0 works, but SeaMonkey
2.7 didn't. I'll need to put a sniffer on the wire and see if I can
figure out the difference.

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Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
David E. Ross:

Again: Windows XP SP3 and SeaMonkey 2.7

Gentoo Linux SM 2.10a1

I ensured there were no prior google.com cookies and that my cookies
permission was set to block ALL cookies.

I did a search at http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en.  It was
successful.

I did a search at http://www.google.com/.  It too was successful.  I
repeated that search with JavaScript disabled.  It too was successful.

In the end, I verified that no google.com cookies had been set.

Ditto. But
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=testsource=webcd=1ved=0CDYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2Fei=rc8yT-2xM8KjiQKwq9CZCgusg=AFQjCNFOu11ntRBzX7MsPNhB_fDzErp8qgcad=rja
gives

Timestamp: 09.02.2012 00:45:59
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Security error  code: 1000
nsresult: 0x805303e8 (NS_ERROR_DOM_SECURITY_ERR)  location:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=testsource=webcd=1ved=0CDYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2Fei=rc8yT-2xM8KjiQKwq9CZCgusg=AFQjCNFOu11ntRBzX7MsPNhB_fDzErp8qgcad=rja
Line: 1]

Hartmut
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SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-07 Thread NoOp
Normally I use google (http://google.com) with cookies turned off. This
afternoon I noticed that no goole links work unless I enable cookies.
However, if I do the same with Firefox 10.0, the links still work. Is
anyone else experiencing the same?

Additional things I've tried:
o switched profiles to a clean test profile
o restarted with add-ons disabled

Steps to reproduce:
1. Ensure that all cookies are turned off (using prefbar or
Edit|Preferences|Privacy  Security|Cookies.

2. Clear all private data (Tools|Clear Private Data) with the exception
of saved passwords.

3. Go to http://www.google.com and enter 'test' in the search box.
Search  click on any link that comes up. See if you are able to view
that link.

4. Go to http://www.google.com and enter 'test' in the search box. Now
right click a link and select either open in a new tab or window. See if
you actually see the linked-to webpage.

On 4 I get something similar to:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=testsource=webcd=1ved=0CDYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2Fei=kMkxT4uNGYuGiQLu2oDTCgusg=AFQjCNFOu11ntRBzX7MsPNhB_fDzErp8qg

And, if I copy  paste that exact URL into Firefox 10.0, I get the
website of test.com. Also, if I turn cookies back on and accept a cookie
from google.com, the links et al work.
[Note: I've nothing to do with test.com, I just used that link as an
example.]

Using the above, I am able to search, link, etc., on yahoo.com etc.,
without issue. It is only google.com, and only since a few hours ago
that this started.

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
but experiencing the exact same issue on a completely different machine
with the 64bit version of SM 2.7 (final) and working Firefox 10.0.




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Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-07 Thread NoOp
On 02/07/2012 05:21 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 Using the above, I am able to search, link, etc., on yahoo.com etc.,
 without issue. It is only google.com, and only since a few hours ago
 that this started.
 
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 but experiencing the exact same issue on a completely different machine
 with the 64bit version of SM 2.7 (final) and working Firefox 10.0.

I've just replicated on the Windows versions of SM 2.7 (even pre-beta)
and Firefox 10. So the issue is not OS build specific.



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Re: SM 2.7 + Google now requiring cookies w/SM?

2012-02-07 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/7/12 5:38 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/07/2012 05:21 PM, NoOp wrote:
 ...
 Using the above, I am able to search, link, etc., on yahoo.com etc.,
 without issue. It is only google.com, and only since a few hours ago
 that this started.

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129
 Firefox/10.0 SeaMonkey/2.7
 but experiencing the exact same issue on a completely different machine
 with the 64bit version of SM 2.7 (final) and working Firefox 10.0.
 
 I've just replicated on the Windows versions of SM 2.7 (even pre-beta)
 and Firefox 10. So the issue is not OS build specific.

Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 SeaMonkey/2.7

I just now successfully used Google for a search with cookies blocked
after I deleted all prior Google cookies.  Is it possible you have a
problem with an extension?  Try your searches in Safe Mode.

-- 

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/.

Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive
bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
© 1997 by David E. Ross
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