Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0 [RESOLVED]
On or about 10/29/2009 6:50 PM, BeeNeR typed the following: > Now that it's solved here's what the problem was. > > I had installed a pre-release of SM2 which created a file named > 'profile.ini' with a reference to the SM1.1.x profile in the default > directory. ie: > C:\Documents and Settings\\Application > Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profile.ini > > > I was not happy with this pre-release of SM2 so I uninstalled it. > > Somewhere along the line I created a new profile form SM1.1.x. The SM2 > profile.ini file still referenced the old 1.1.x profile. > > That's why my original installation of the released version of 2.0 had > old information on startup. > > In trouble shooting I removed the all the old 1.1.x profiles. This now > meant that the 2.0 profile.ini which was in the 1.1.18 default directoy > was still there. But it was now pointing to an non-existant profile. > > This, I assume, was causing the next problem of SM2 Mail not starting up > and giving an error message of 'SeaMonkey is already running, but is not > responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing > SeaMonkey porcess, or restart you system" and then hanging requiring a > reboot. > > (NOTE TO PROGRAMMERS: This should be investigated. The proper response > should have been "Missing file: " > and allowing the startup to be aborted rather than hanging and waiting > for a reboot). > > I hope this information will help the next person. > > -- Ed Don't try to cross any bridges until you're sure one is there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [RESOLVED] Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
NoOp wrote: On 10/29/2009 02:42 PM, BeeNeR wrote: /snip/ So this thread can be tagged with [RESOLVED] then eh? Its your thread, go for it! Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[RESOLVED] Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On 10/29/2009 02:42 PM, BeeNeR wrote: ... > Problem solved! (:> After searching again manually through entire disk > I found a file profile.ini which when I looked at it contained a > reference to a profile that no longer existed. I renamed the file and > SM2 installed and imported the proper profile. Hurray! > > Robert Kaiser was correct when he said it may be a profile left over > from a prior load of SM2. It was placed in the 1.1.18 profile directory > and that's why it was overlooked by me. I didn't expect to find > anything from SM2 there. > > Sorry Robert for not pursuing you clue earlier. Live and learn. (:< > > So this thread can be tagged with [RESOLVED] then eh? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On 10/29/2009 12:55 PM, BeeNeR wrote: > On or about 10/29/2009 3:39 PM, BeeNeR typed the following: >> On or about 10/29/2009 7:12 AM, BeeNeR typed the following: >> >>> Image of this window can be found in mozilla.support.screenshots >>> >> >> Evidently the moderator of mozilla.support.screenshots is on vacation. >> The screenshot has not appeared as yet. >> > > Amazing - mozilla.support.screenshots just disappeared from > news.mozilla.org > About time... the "moderator" has been on "vacation" for a very long time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/29/09 14:55, Leonidas Jones wrote: That is exactly how it should work. Lee Yes, but Ed said he found a separate file, called profile.ini which also had to be removed. Although it didn't say where he found this file, it was implied that it wasn't in the 2.0 profile area, as he said he deleted that, unless I misunderstood him. This file existed because he was testing SeaMonkey nightlies and did not remove the old profiles completely. Anyone who had not been testing pre release 2.0 would not have this problem. When I was testing the nightlies, before installing a new one, I would blow away the profile folder, so as to test the migration process. Therefore I never had such a problem. What I would wonder is how Ed's rogue profiles.ini got into the old SeaMonkey location? Everyone I tested on a Mac placed a profile in the new location. I never did test the Windows nightlies, perhaps some of the early ones did put the profiles in the old location. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
Now that it's solved here's what the problem was. I had installed a pre-release of SM2 which created a file named 'profile.ini' with a reference to the SM1.1.x profile in the default directory. ie: C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profile.ini I was not happy with this pre-release of SM2 so I uninstalled it. Somewhere along the line I created a new profile form SM1.1.x. The SM2 profile.ini file still referenced the old 1.1.x profile. That's why my original installation of the released version of 2.0 had old information on startup. In trouble shooting I removed the all the old 1.1.x profiles. This now meant that the 2.0 profile.ini which was in the 1.1.18 default directoy was still there. But it was now pointing to an non-existant profile. This, I assume, was causing the next problem of SM2 Mail not starting up and giving an error message of 'SeaMonkey is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey porcess, or restart you system" and then hanging requiring a reboot. (NOTE TO PROGRAMMERS: This should be investigated. The proper response should have been "Missing file: " and allowing the startup to be aborted rather than hanging and waiting for a reboot). I hope this information will help the next person. -- Ed Don't try to cross any bridges until you're sure one is there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/29/2009 6:31 PM, Mark Hansen typed the following: > On 10/29/09 14:42, BeeNeR wrote: >> Problem solved! (:> After searching again manually through entire disk >> I found a file profile.ini which when I looked at it contained a >> reference to a profile that no longer existed. I renamed the file and >> SM2 installed and imported the proper profile. Hurray! >> > > So where was that file located (profile.ini)? In the directory where SM1.1.x default profile was located: C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey See my next post. See my next post. -- Ed Don't try to cross any bridges until you're sure one is there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On 10/29/09 14:42, BeeNeR wrote: > Problem solved! (:> After searching again manually through entire disk > I found a file profile.ini which when I looked at it contained a > reference to a profile that no longer existed. I renamed the file and > SM2 installed and imported the proper profile. Hurray! > So where was that file located (profile.ini)? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On 10/29/09 14:55, Leonidas Jones wrote: > > That is exactly how it should work. > > Lee Yes, but Ed said he found a separate file, called profile.ini which also had to be removed. Although it didn't say where he found this file, it was implied that it wasn't in the 2.0 profile area, as he said he deleted that, unless I misunderstood him. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/29/09 12:36, BeeNeR wrote: Today I again made sure there was only one profile on my disk. I uninstalled SM2, deleted the Program Files/SeaMonkey directory, rebooted, uninstalled SM1.1.18, deleted the Program Files/mozilla.org directory, rebooted, ran two different registry scanners/repair software and searched the registry for SM leftovers, rebooted again, installed SM2.0. It went through the installatiion, did NOT bring up the 'import wizard' Ed, I don't have a solution for you, but just wanted to point out something which I think you've misunderstood. SM decides whether or not to run the import wizard at start up based on whether there is already a user profile. SM 2.0 keeps it's profiles in a location different (by default) than that used by SM 1. So, by uninstalling SM 2, you didn't actually reset this at all. It's my guess that it's not asking you to migrate because in the SM 2 profile area, there is already a profile. I think if you shut down SM 2, remove the Profile (in the SM 2 profile area only!) and launch SM 2, it will prompt you to migrate the SM 1 profile. Best Regards, That is exactly how it should work. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/29/2009 5:30 PM, BeeNeR typed the following: > On or about 10/29/2009 5:16 PM, Mark Hansen typed the following: >> On 10/29/09 12:36, BeeNeR wrote: >>> Today I again made sure there was only one profile on my disk. I >>> uninstalled SM2, deleted the Program Files/SeaMonkey directory, >>> rebooted, uninstalled SM1.1.18, deleted the Program Files/mozilla.org >>> directory, rebooted, ran two different registry scanners/repair software >>> and searched the registry for SM leftovers, rebooted again, installed >>> SM2.0. It went through the installatiion, did NOT bring up the 'import >>> wizard' >> >> Ed, >> >> I don't have a solution for you, but just wanted to point out something >> which I think you've misunderstood. >> >> SM decides whether or not to run the import wizard at start up >> based on whether there is already a user profile. SM 2.0 keeps it's >> profiles in a location different (by default) than that used by SM 1. >> >> So, by uninstalling SM 2, you didn't actually reset this at all. It's >> my guess that it's not asking you to migrate because in the SM 2 profile >> area, there is already a profile. >> >> I think if you shut down SM 2, remove the Profile (in the SM 2 profile >> area only!) and launch SM 2, it will prompt you to migrate the SM 1 profile. >> >> Best Regards, > > As I understand it, I may be wrong, but I believe SM2 holds it's profile > in it's own directory which I removed (deleted). The only profile I > have left on my machine (after searching through all the disk) is the > one from SM1.1.18 located in C:\Documents and Settings\ed\Application > Data\Mozilla\Profiles > Problem solved! (:> After searching again manually through entire disk I found a file profile.ini which when I looked at it contained a reference to a profile that no longer existed. I renamed the file and SM2 installed and imported the proper profile. Hurray! Robert Kaiser was correct when he said it may be a profile left over from a prior load of SM2. It was placed in the 1.1.18 profile directory and that's why it was overlooked by me. I didn't expect to find anything from SM2 there. Sorry Robert for not pursuing you clue earlier. Live and learn. (:< -- Ed Don't try to cross any bridges until you're sure one is there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/29/2009 5:16 PM, Mark Hansen typed the following: > On 10/29/09 12:36, BeeNeR wrote: >> Today I again made sure there was only one profile on my disk. I >> uninstalled SM2, deleted the Program Files/SeaMonkey directory, >> rebooted, uninstalled SM1.1.18, deleted the Program Files/mozilla.org >> directory, rebooted, ran two different registry scanners/repair software >> and searched the registry for SM leftovers, rebooted again, installed >> SM2.0. It went through the installatiion, did NOT bring up the 'import >> wizard' > > Ed, > > I don't have a solution for you, but just wanted to point out something > which I think you've misunderstood. > > SM decides whether or not to run the import wizard at start up > based on whether there is already a user profile. SM 2.0 keeps it's > profiles in a location different (by default) than that used by SM 1. > > So, by uninstalling SM 2, you didn't actually reset this at all. It's > my guess that it's not asking you to migrate because in the SM 2 profile > area, there is already a profile. > > I think if you shut down SM 2, remove the Profile (in the SM 2 profile > area only!) and launch SM 2, it will prompt you to migrate the SM 1 profile. > > Best Regards, As I understand it, I may be wrong, but I believe SM2 holds it's profile in it's own directory which I removed (deleted). The only profile I have left on my machine (after searching through all the disk) is the one from SM1.1.18 located in C:\Documents and Settings\ed\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles -- Ed Experience is the name everyone gives to his mistakes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On 10/29/09 12:36, BeeNeR wrote: > > Today I again made sure there was only one profile on my disk. I > uninstalled SM2, deleted the Program Files/SeaMonkey directory, > rebooted, uninstalled SM1.1.18, deleted the Program Files/mozilla.org > directory, rebooted, ran two different registry scanners/repair software > and searched the registry for SM leftovers, rebooted again, installed > SM2.0. It went through the installatiion, did NOT bring up the 'import > wizard' Ed, I don't have a solution for you, but just wanted to point out something which I think you've misunderstood. SM decides whether or not to run the import wizard at start up based on whether there is already a user profile. SM 2.0 keeps it's profiles in a location different (by default) than that used by SM 1. So, by uninstalling SM 2, you didn't actually reset this at all. It's my guess that it's not asking you to migrate because in the SM 2 profile area, there is already a profile. I think if you shut down SM 2, remove the Profile (in the SM 2 profile area only!) and launch SM 2, it will prompt you to migrate the SM 1 profile. Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/29/2009 3:39 PM, BeeNeR typed the following: > On or about 10/29/2009 7:12 AM, BeeNeR typed the following: > >> Image of this window can be found in mozilla.support.screenshots >> > > Evidently the moderator of mozilla.support.screenshots is on vacation. > The screenshot has not appeared as yet. > Amazing - mozilla.support.screenshots just disappeared from news.mozilla.org -- Ed "A citizen can hardly distinguish between a tax and a fine, except that a fine is generally much lighter." -G.K. Chesterton (1874-1936) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/29/2009 7:12 AM, BeeNeR typed the following: > > > Image of this window can be found in mozilla.support.screenshots > Evidently the moderator of mozilla.support.screenshots is on vacation. The screenshot has not appeared as yet. -- Ed "As a practical matter, every immigrant needs to master English to be a full participating citizen and to have full economic opportunity." -Sen. Richard Lugar ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/28/2009 9:03 PM, BeeNeR typed the following: > On or about 10/28/2009 7:24 PM, Robert Kaiser typed the following: >> BeeNeR wrote: >>> System Win XP up-to-date >>> >>> I installed SM2.0 and it did not load the all accounts, identities, and >>> e-mail from the 1.1.18 version. It loaded accounts, identities, and >>> e-mail from before May 28, 2009. Nothing after that date. Possible from >>> when I was using 1.1.17 or earlier version. >> Have you tested a 2.0 alpha version back then? If so, that one probably >> has created a 2.0 profile with migration back then, and now you just get >> that profile. Go into the profile directory as documented in >> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/profiles and delete the >> existing 2.0 profile when SeaMonkey is shut down, then start it again >> and it should start a new migration with the current data of your 1.x >> profile. >> >> Robert Kaiser > > Did that. After installing 2.0 I get a window that tells me SM is still > running - close all windows or reboot. Don't see any SM running -- > Can't find anything in Task Manager. Went through this process many > times with uninstalling & install 2.0. Finally uninstalled 1.1.18 and > had the same results with a window telling me SM was running every time > I tried to start 2.0. After a number of other trials, I said the hell > with it for this evening, Uninstalled 2.0 and installed 1.1.18 again. > All's well with 1.1.18. > Today I again made sure there was only one profile on my disk. I uninstalled SM2, deleted the Program Files/SeaMonkey directory, rebooted, uninstalled SM1.1.18, deleted the Program Files/mozilla.org directory, rebooted, ran two different registry scanners/repair software and searched the registry for SM leftovers, rebooted again, installed SM2.0. It went through the installatiion, did NOT bring up the 'import wizard', asked if I wanted to start SM, I said no. Followed instructions on web page to start SM with the -migration and got the window that tells me SM is already running and to shut it down and reboot. Did the above again with telling SM to 'start' after installation finished. Got the same window of SM already running. I don't see anything that I can place as a SM program or dll when I look at Windows Task Manager. Rebooted, uninstalled SM2, reinstalled SM1.1.18 with no problems. I guess I'll wait for SM2.1 -- Ed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
I'm not sure [and no expert on anything] but I believe in cases past SM had picked up an older profile of mine that had been superseded. You might consider renaming or temporarily relocating any old profiles that you don't want to delete [after making sure they are in fact older ones] and try re-installing. Or perhaps just import the correct profile. Luck, James . . Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:40:11 -0400 From: BeeNeR To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: SM1.1.18 to 2.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 System Win XP up-to-date I installed SM2.0 and it did not load the all accounts, identities, and e-mail from the 1.1.18 version. It loaded accounts, identities, and e-mail from before May 28, 2009. Nothing after that date. Possible from when I was using 1.1.17 or earlier version. I have not changed the default location of my profile so I would assume that 2.0 would have picked up the correct information. As of now I'm back to 1.1.18. Any suggestions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/28/2009 9:03 PM, BeeNeR typed the following: > On or about 10/28/2009 7:24 PM, Robert Kaiser typed the following: >> BeeNeR wrote: >>> System Win XP up-to-date >>> >>> I installed SM2.0 and it did not load the all accounts, identities, and >>> e-mail from the 1.1.18 version. It loaded accounts, identities, and >>> e-mail from before May 28, 2009. Nothing after that date. Possible from >>> when I was using 1.1.17 or earlier version. >> Have you tested a 2.0 alpha version back then? If so, that one probably >> has created a 2.0 profile with migration back then, and now you just get >> that profile. Go into the profile directory as documented in >> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/profiles and delete the >> existing 2.0 profile when SeaMonkey is shut down, then start it again >> and it should start a new migration with the current data of your 1.x >> profile. >> >> Robert Kaiser > > Did that. After installing 2.0 I get a window that tells me SM is still > running - close all windows or reboot. Don't see any SM running -- > Can't find anything in Task Manager. Went through this process many > times with uninstalling & install 2.0. Finally uninstalled 1.1.18 and > had the same results with a window telling me SM was running every time > I tried to start 2.0. After a number of other trials, I said the hell > with it for this evening, Uninstalled 2.0 and installed 1.1.18 again. > All's well with 1.1.18. > After uninstalling 1.1.18 and 2.0 reinstalling 2.0, I still get the window saying SM is running. My system has been rebooted more times in the last 24 hours than in the last 6 months. Image of this window can be found in mozilla.support.screenshots -- Ed Why is it that no plastic bag will open from the end you first try? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/28/2009 7:24 PM, Robert Kaiser typed the following: > BeeNeR wrote: >> System Win XP up-to-date >> >> I installed SM2.0 and it did not load the all accounts, identities, and >> e-mail from the 1.1.18 version. It loaded accounts, identities, and >> e-mail from before May 28, 2009. Nothing after that date. Possible from >> when I was using 1.1.17 or earlier version. > > Have you tested a 2.0 alpha version back then? If so, that one probably > has created a 2.0 profile with migration back then, and now you just get > that profile. Go into the profile directory as documented in > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/profiles and delete the > existing 2.0 profile when SeaMonkey is shut down, then start it again > and it should start a new migration with the current data of your 1.x > profile. > > Robert Kaiser Did that. After installing 2.0 I get a window that tells me SM is still running - close all windows or reboot. Don't see any SM running -- Can't find anything in Task Manager. Went through this process many times with uninstalling & install 2.0. Finally uninstalled 1.1.18 and had the same results with a window telling me SM was running every time I tried to start 2.0. After a number of other trials, I said the hell with it for this evening, Uninstalled 2.0 and installed 1.1.18 again. All's well with 1.1.18. -- Ed Drinking is the only thing you don't get better at the more you do it. And tonight's the night I test out /that/ axiom. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
BeeNeR wrote: System Win XP up-to-date I installed SM2.0 and it did not load the all accounts, identities, and e-mail from the 1.1.18 version. It loaded accounts, identities, and e-mail from before May 28, 2009. Nothing after that date. Possible from when I was using 1.1.17 or earlier version. Have you tested a 2.0 alpha version back then? If so, that one probably has created a 2.0 profile with migration back then, and now you just get that profile. Go into the profile directory as documented in http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/profiles and delete the existing 2.0 profile when SeaMonkey is shut down, then start it again and it should start a new migration with the current data of your 1.x profile. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1.1.18 to 2.0
On or about 10/28/2009 2:40 PM, BeeNeR typed the following: > System Win XP up-to-date > > I installed SM2.0 and it did not load the all accounts, identities, and > e-mail from the 1.1.18 version. It loaded accounts, identities, and > e-mail from before May 28, 2009. Nothing after that date. Possible from > when I was using 1.1.17 or earlier version. > > I have not changed the default location of my profile so I would assume > that 2.0 would have picked up the correct information. > > As of now I'm back to 1.1.18. Any suggestions? > Additional - my default profile is: c:\documents and settings\ed\application data\mozilla\profiles\default\x.slt -- Ed Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM1.1.18 to 2.0
System Win XP up-to-date I installed SM2.0 and it did not load the all accounts, identities, and e-mail from the 1.1.18 version. It loaded accounts, identities, and e-mail from before May 28, 2009. Nothing after that date. Possible from when I was using 1.1.17 or earlier version. I have not changed the default location of my profile so I would assume that 2.0 would have picked up the correct information. As of now I'm back to 1.1.18. Any suggestions? -- Ed On the other hand, you have different fingers. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
