Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
On 3/19/2010 11:41 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/18/2010 10:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Ok, lets narrow down point of failure; if we can. Can you try loading the following on your mac (Where SeaMonkey 1.1.19 doesn't work): * Thunderbird at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/2.0.0.24/mac/en-US/ * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ Let me know your success/failure on both of those please. Overheard on IRC... likely *is* relevant: [20:37:24] firebot Thunderbird: 'MacOSX 10.5 comm-central check' has changed state from Success to Test Failed. [20:51:55] justdaveTB 3.x run on OS X 10.3.9? [20:57:07] |-- ewong_w|afk has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: Reboot.) [20:59:10] --| davida_ (dasc...@moz-b84bb441.stc.novuscom.net) has joined #maildev [20:59:28] |-- davida_ has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: davida_) [21:00:44] --| ewong_w|afk (chatzi...@moz-e5d50c2e.static.netvigator.com) has joined #maildev [21:01:09] |-- davida has left irc.mozilla.org (Ping timeout) [21:04:31] BenBjustdave: same as the underlying Gecko/FF [21:05:08] justdaveyeah, found it on the momo/support site since I asked [21:05:10] BenB justdave: i.e. 1.9.1 (IIRC) for TB 3.0, and 1.9.2 for TB 3.1 and 1.9.3 for TB 3.2 [21:05:24] justdavetold my mom she just needs to get a new computer. :) [21:05:33] BenBjustdave: :-( [21:05:51] BenBI also have a PowerBook G4 12 and love it [21:05:55] justdaveshe's getting SSL errors in TB 2.0.0.23 [21:07:06] BenB and you have reason to believe the client (and not the server) is at fault? [21:07:07] justdave which are mainly because NSS got upgraded in 2.0.0.23 without upgrading the UI for the certificate overrides [21:07:15] BenBnod [21:07:41] justdave so her choice is basically go back to 2.0.0.22 or get 3.0, and she can't get 3.0 because her OS is too old [21:07:53] BenBbummer [21:08:14] BenBpoor users Summarized: NSS is to blame. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger. Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference points (for me to actually look at bonsai with). I'm here to test, when ready. Lee I just installed SM 1.1.19 on my G4/500 Sawtooth running 10.4.11 - it launches and runs just fine. I moved my previous app (SM 1.1.18) to the Trash first, then dragged over 1.1.19 in it's place and launched it, surfed a bit. No problems. Interesting. It would seem that your Tiger machine is a twin to mine. The only thing I see different in our experiences was that 1.1.18 was not installed when I installed 1.1.19. I had already upgraded to 2.0, and had removed the older version. The old profile was still there, as was a profile for Netscape 7.2, so I had expected 1.1.19 to pick up the old profiles, but no such luck. Then again, my Panther Sawtooth did have 1.1.18 installed, and I installed 1.1.19 as you did, but without success. I had to revert to 1.1.18 to get a working browser. Lee I did delete the 1.1.18 app, but I left my Mozilla folder and it's contents intact. SM 1.1.19 just picked up and ran with it. Then I emptied the Trash to get rid of the 1.1.18 app and launched again - no problems. Interesting...I have a Netscape install on my machine, too. Only difference is that I've never upgraded that one to SM 2.x. I've only got 2.x running on my Macbook Pro and G5 iMac, running 10.6.2 and 10.5.x respectively. New account, Tiger PPC: SM 1.1.19 opens but shows only SeaMonkey (no File, Edit etc.) in the Apple top menu and in the dropdown menu under SeaMonkey: no About SeaMonkey and no Preferences. Other account with SM 1.1.18: Installed 1.1.19 as Rufus did: same result as in new account. (Both TB 2.0.0.24 and even FF 3.0.19-candidates/build1 run normally.) Nanny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger. Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference points (for me to actually look at bonsai with). I'm here to test, when ready. Lee I just installed SM 1.1.19 on my G4/500 Sawtooth running 10.4.11 - it launches and runs just fine. I moved my previous app (SM 1.1.18) to the Trash first, then dragged over 1.1.19 in it's place and launched it, surfed a bit. No problems. Interesting. It would seem that your Tiger machine is a twin to mine. The only thing I see different in our experiences was that 1.1.18 was not installed when I installed 1.1.19. I had already upgraded to 2.0, and had removed the older version. The old profile was still there, as was a profile for Netscape 7.2, so I had expected 1.1.19 to pick up the old profiles, but no such luck. Then again, my Panther Sawtooth did have 1.1.18 installed, and I installed 1.1.19 as you did, but without success. I had to revert to 1.1.18 to get a working browser. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger. Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference points (for me to actually look at bonsai with). I'm here to test, when ready. Lee I just installed SM 1.1.19 on my G4/500 Sawtooth running 10.4.11 - it launches and runs just fine. I moved my previous app (SM 1.1.18) to the Trash first, then dragged over 1.1.19 in it's place and launched it, surfed a bit. No problems. Interesting. It would seem that your Tiger machine is a twin to mine. The only thing I see different in our experiences was that 1.1.18 was not installed when I installed 1.1.19. I had already upgraded to 2.0, and had removed the older version. The old profile was still there, as was a profile for Netscape 7.2, so I had expected 1.1.19 to pick up the old profiles, but no such luck. Then again, my Panther Sawtooth did have 1.1.18 installed, and I installed 1.1.19 as you did, but without success. I had to revert to 1.1.18 to get a working browser. Lee I did delete the 1.1.18 app, but I left my Mozilla folder and it's contents intact. SM 1.1.19 just picked up and ran with it. Then I emptied the Trash to get rid of the 1.1.18 app and launched again - no problems. Interesting...I have a Netscape install on my machine, too. Only difference is that I've never upgraded that one to SM 2.x. I've only got 2.x running on my Macbook Pro and G5 iMac, running 10.6.2 and 10.5.x respectively. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger. Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference points (for me to actually look at bonsai with). -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger. Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference points (for me to actually look at bonsai with). I'm here to test, when ready. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/20/2010 7:55 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ This is much newer code than TB 2.0.0.24 or SM 1.1.19, but I guess it may still run on some older Macs as well, esp. on Tiger. Hmm was half asleep when I made the links, willing to identify the builds that match SM 1.1.19 then, so we can get accurate reference points (for me to actually look at bonsai with). I'm here to test, when ready. Lee I just installed SM 1.1.19 on my G4/500 Sawtooth running 10.4.11 - it launches and runs just fine. I moved my previous app (SM 1.1.18) to the Trash first, then dragged over 1.1.19 in it's place and launched it, surfed a bit. No problems. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
On 3/18/2010 10:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Ok, lets narrow down point of failure; if we can. Can you try loading the following on your mac (Where SeaMonkey 1.1.19 doesn't work): * Thunderbird at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/2.0.0.24/mac/en-US/ * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ Let me know your success/failure on both of those please. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/18/2010 10:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Ok, lets narrow down point of failure; if we can. Can you try loading the following on your mac (Where SeaMonkey 1.1.19 doesn't work): * Thunderbird at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/2.0.0.24/mac/en-US/ * Firefox from a relevant build at: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/ Let me know your success/failure on both of those please. On Tiger, TB 2.0.0.24 was already installed and working. I had FF 3.6 installed. I installed FF 3.0.19. It opened and ran correctly. On Panther, 2.0.0.24 was not installed, but did open and run when I downloaded it. FF 3.x will not run on Panther. Jaguar is not really an issue at this point. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
