Strange behavior
I like to get on FoxNews a lot and make Conservative comments. It's more fun that a barrel of monkeys, as they say ! When I want to change something, or - when I start up writing and that darned "You have to Sign In to Comment" thing takes over - I lose everything I wrote. So now I highlight and Copy (Ctrl-C) what I wrote before I lose it. Well - after I finish the Sign-In, I try to Ctrl-V my saved stuff back onto the post area and it doesn't work ! BUT - if I go up to EDIT and PASTE in the Menu - it pastes ! What is the difference between Ctrl-V and PASTE "in the Menu" concerning what I saved to the clipboard ? Seems odd. DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange Behavior
DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I am seeing some websites on SeaMonkey now - NOT responding to mouse clicks on links. Often happens in gmail and FoxNews' web site. Nothing comes up on Malawarebytes. A few times, if I hold down the Ctrl Key AND then mouse click, I will get action. Do I have some "Toggle" in SM set incorrectly ? If most websites work fine, and it's just a few that behave strangely, your settings are probably fine and it's probably script on those pages as you suspect below. On FoxNews, I can get to an obvious link by right clicking and saving the link, then pasting it into the Location bad...but no action clicking on the link on the FoxNews page. I suspect there are "Scripts" running that have taken over and have shut down the page while they are loading. Could I be correct ? Quite likely. Either there's so much script running that your browser slows to a crawl, or the links themselves are implemented via scripting which might not work until the page has completely loaded (or, in some cases, might only work with some browsers - document downloads on my pension provider's website are currently implemented through some convoluted scripting which only works in Internet Explorer!) I know pretty much zip about web site construction. How does one control "Scripts" ? Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Scripts & Plugins - Disabling "Enable JavaScript for Browser" will prevent any scripts from running. But you might find that some sites are not usable at all with scripting disabled. Some seem to rely on scripting for even basic functionality, such as loading images and following links, and don't have any fallback when scripting is disabled. - There are a few other options just below that which can disable the more invasive things scripts might do. I don't think any of them would affect what you're seeing though. I've disabled all except "Disable or replace context menus"; even with that enabled, if a script has replaced the context (right-click) menu after right-clicking you can press the "Esc" key to close the script's menu and get the normal one. A more extreme option is the NoScript extension to block scripts by default until you explicitly allow them to run or whitelist them. That does sometimes take a bit of experience and experimentation to work out which scripts are needed for a page to work properly. Disabling scripts for a page could make it more responsive, or could prevent it from working at all; some even show up almost completely blank until scripts are enabled. I sometimes get a message that a script is running stop continue drop dead. DoctorBill Ah - yesgreat interest in my questions.. I might add, what is this window that sometimes opens when I right click on a tab and it asks me "Do I REALLY want to close this page ?" Seldom happens - why ? That one's almost certainly script on the page. Their page is so important that you're unlikely to want to look at anything else. Therefore you must have accidentally clicked away from it and will of course welcome the opportunity to stay after all... -- Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange Behavior
WaltS48 wrote: DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I am seeing some websites on SeaMonkey now - NOT responding to mouse clicks on links. Often happens in gmail and FoxNews' web site. Nothing comes up on Malawarebytes. A few times, if I hold down the Ctrl Key AND then mouse click, I will get action. Do I have some "Toggle" in SM set incorrectly ? On FoxNews, I can get to an obvious link by right clicking and saving the link, then pasting it into the Location bad...but no action clicking on the link on the FoxNews page. I suspect there are "Scripts" running that have taken over and have shut down the page while they are loading. Could I be correct ? I know pretty much zip about web site construction.How does one control "Scripts" ? I sometimes get a message that a script is running stop continue drop dead. DoctorBill I dropped my ISP because of TERRIBLE BAD service for a new one thru my telephone - 6 MBPS DSL Phone Modem. ? ? ? ? Maybe not using the proper jargon !? DoctorBill Sounds right to me. I recently dropped my phone companies 7 Mbps service, for a 25 Mbps Internet and voice service from a cable company. So far it's been great. I'm out in the Boondocks - FARM County - Cable service is a POS. Have to go phone company. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange Behavior
DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I am seeing some websites on SeaMonkey now - NOT responding to mouse clicks on links. Often happens in gmail and FoxNews' web site. Nothing comes up on Malawarebytes. A few times, if I hold down the Ctrl Key AND then mouse click, I will get action. Do I have some "Toggle" in SM set incorrectly ? On FoxNews, I can get to an obvious link by right clicking and saving the link, then pasting it into the Location bad...but no action clicking on the link on the FoxNews page. I suspect there are "Scripts" running that have taken over and have shut down the page while they are loading. Could I be correct ? I know pretty much zip about web site construction. How does one control "Scripts" ? I sometimes get a message that a script is running stop continue drop dead. DoctorBill I dropped my ISP because of TERRIBLE BAD service for a new one thru my telephone - 6 MBPS DSL Phone Modem. ? ? ? ? Maybe not using the proper jargon !? DoctorBill Sounds right to me. I recently dropped my phone companies 7 Mbps service, for a 25 Mbps Internet and voice service from a cable company. So far it's been great. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange Behavior
DoctorBill wrote: I am seeing some websites on SeaMonkey now - NOT responding to mouse clicks on links. Often happens in gmail and FoxNews' web site. Nothing comes up on Malawarebytes. A few times, if I hold down the Ctrl Key AND then mouse click, I will get action. Do I have some "Toggle" in SM set incorrectly ? On FoxNews, I can get to an obvious link by right clicking and saving the link, then pasting it into the Location bad...but no action clicking on the link on the FoxNews page. I suspect there are "Scripts" running that have taken over and have shut down the page while they are loading. Could I be correct ? I know pretty much zip about web site construction.How does one control "Scripts" ? I sometimes get a message that a script is running stop continue drop dead. DoctorBill I dropped my ISP because of TERRIBLE BAD service for a new one thru my telephone - 6 MBPS DSL Phone Modem. ? ? ? ? Maybe not using the proper jargon !? DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange Behavior
DoctorBill wrote: I am seeing some websites on SeaMonkey now - NOT responding to mouse clicks on links. Often happens in gmail and FoxNews' web site. Nothing comes up on Malawarebytes. A few times, if I hold down the Ctrl Key AND then mouse click, I will get action. Do I have some "Toggle" in SM set incorrectly ? On FoxNews, I can get to an obvious link by right clicking and saving the link, then pasting it into the Location bad...but no action clicking on the link on the FoxNews page. I suspect there are "Scripts" running that have taken over and have shut down the page while they are loading. Could I be correct ? I know pretty much zip about web site construction.How does one control "Scripts" ? I sometimes get a message that a script is running stop continue drop dead. DoctorBill Ah - yesgreat interest in my questions.. I might add, what is this window that sometimes opens when I right click on a tab and it asks me "Do I REALLY want to close this page ?" Seldom happens - why ? DB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Strange Behavior
I am seeing some websites on SeaMonkey now - NOT responding to mouse clicks on links. Often happens in gmail and FoxNews' web site. Nothing comes up on Malawarebytes. A few times, if I hold down the Ctrl Key AND then mouse click, I will get action. Do I have some "Toggle" in SM set incorrectly ? On FoxNews, I can get to an obvious link by right clicking and saving the link, then pasting it into the Location bad...but no action clicking on the link on the FoxNews page. I suspect there are "Scripts" running that have taken over and have shut down the page while they are loading. Could I be correct ? I know pretty much zip about web site construction.How does one control "Scripts" ? I sometimes get a message that a script is running stop continue drop dead. DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange behavior with a web site
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/18/10 6:13 AM, OBones wrote: Hello all, I'm having a strange behavior with some websites where I have to go back twice in the history to actually see the real previous page. This does not happen with IE and so I'm wondering why it happens. Here are the steps: 1. Open a blank tab 2. Paste that link in the address bar: http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00089584.html 3. Press enter to open the page Expected: History is empty for the tab, the previous button remains grayed out Actual: History contains the same page and previous button is active. You can even navigate to other products on that website, it displays the same behavior on most, if not all pages. I have noticed it on other websites as well, so I think it is somewhat of a common issue. Note that if I turn Javascript off, it no longer happens, but I could not find which function or event does this... Regards Olivier If I follow your instructions 1-3, the Previous button returns me to the way the tab was at step #1. This is not an error because the state of the tab before step #3 is the tab's history. And turning off JavaScript does not change the behavior. Hum, in my setup new tabs open blank, I guess yours opens a default web page. If I select a link to open in a new tab, however, then the history for that new tab is indeed empty and the Previous button is grayed out. Interesting, I'm not observing that, I do get the same problem as I mentioned earlier. Which version do you use? I'm on version 2.0.6: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6 Could it then come from an extension? Regards Olivier ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange behavior with a web site
On 8/19/10 12:06 AM, OBones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 8/18/10 6:13 AM, OBones wrote: Hello all, I'm having a strange behavior with some websites where I have to go back twice in the history to actually see the real previous page. This does not happen with IE and so I'm wondering why it happens. Here are the steps: 1. Open a blank tab 2. Paste that link in the address bar: http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00089584.html 3. Press enter to open the page Expected: History is empty for the tab, the previous button remains grayed out Actual: History contains the same page and previous button is active. You can even navigate to other products on that website, it displays the same behavior on most, if not all pages. I have noticed it on other websites as well, so I think it is somewhat of a common issue. Note that if I turn Javascript off, it no longer happens, but I could not find which function or event does this... Regards Olivier If I follow your instructions 1-3, the Previous button returns me to the way the tab was at step #1. This is not an error because the state of the tab before step #3 is the tab's history. And turning off JavaScript does not change the behavior. Hum, in my setup new tabs open blank, I guess yours opens a default web page. If I select a link to open in a new tab, however, then the history for that new tab is indeed empty and the Previous button is grayed out. Interesting, I'm not observing that, I do get the same problem as I mentioned earlier. Which version do you use? I'm on version 2.0.6: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6 Could it then come from an extension? Regards Olivier Yes, I set my preferences to display my bookmarks file on startup and for a new tab. For a test, however, I just now set it for a blank page on a new tab. Then, when I paste and load your http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00089584.html in a new tab, the Previous arrow is grayed out. UA string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6 with Menu, Navigation, Status, and PrefBar bars displayed Cookies for the originating Web site only Extensions (enabled: 6) * Adblock Plus 1.2.1 * DOM Inspector 2.0.4 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/) * Flashblock 1.3.16 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/) * Live HTTP headers 0.16 * PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/) * Show Password On Input 0.1.3 (https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/6143/) * ShowIP 0.8.19 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/) -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Strange behavior with a web site
Hello all, I'm having a strange behavior with some websites where I have to go back twice in the history to actually see the real previous page. This does not happen with IE and so I'm wondering why it happens. Here are the steps: 1. Open a blank tab 2. Paste that link in the address bar: http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00089584.html 3. Press enter to open the page Expected: History is empty for the tab, the previous button remains grayed out Actual: History contains the same page and previous button is active. You can even navigate to other products on that website, it displays the same behavior on most, if not all pages. I have noticed it on other websites as well, so I think it is somewhat of a common issue. Note that if I turn Javascript off, it no longer happens, but I could not find which function or event does this... Regards Olivier ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange behavior with a web site
On 8/18/10 6:13 AM, OBones wrote: Hello all, I'm having a strange behavior with some websites where I have to go back twice in the history to actually see the real previous page. This does not happen with IE and so I'm wondering why it happens. Here are the steps: 1. Open a blank tab 2. Paste that link in the address bar: http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00089584.html 3. Press enter to open the page Expected: History is empty for the tab, the previous button remains grayed out Actual: History contains the same page and previous button is active. You can even navigate to other products on that website, it displays the same behavior on most, if not all pages. I have noticed it on other websites as well, so I think it is somewhat of a common issue. Note that if I turn Javascript off, it no longer happens, but I could not find which function or event does this... Regards Olivier If I follow your instructions 1-3, the Previous button returns me to the way the tab was at step #1. This is not an error because the state of the tab before step #3 is the tab's history. And turning off JavaScript does not change the behavior. If I select a link to open in a new tab, however, then the history for that new tab is indeed empty and the Previous button is grayed out. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Switching Profiles: Strange Behavior
I have four SeaMonkey profiles. I was using Thunderbird to compose a reply to another thread in this newsgroup, and I needed information from two those profiles. When I switched from A to B, the window for B opened behind the Thunderbird window. When I switched from B back to A, the window for A opened in front of the Thunderbird window. Why do I see this inconsistency? By the way, this switching back and forth between profiles is why I use Thunderbird as my newsreader rather than SeaMonkey's Mail Newsgroups component. With the latter, my Mail Newsgroups session would have closed while going from profile A to B. While in profile B, I would not have the same newsgroup history as I had when I started composing even if I duplicated the Mail Newsgroups portion of profile A into B. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Switching Profiles: Strange Behavior
David E. Ross wrote: I have four SeaMonkey profiles. I was using Thunderbird to compose a reply to another thread in this newsgroup, and I needed information from two those profiles. When I switched from A to B, the window for B opened behind the Thunderbird window. When I switched from B back to A, the window for A opened in front of the Thunderbird window. Why do I see this inconsistency? By the way, this switching back and forth between profiles is why I use Thunderbird as my newsreader rather than SeaMonkey's Mail Newsgroups component. With the latter, my Mail Newsgroups session would have closed while going from profile A to B. While in profile B, I would not have the same newsgroup history as I had when I started composing even if I duplicated the Mail Newsgroups portion of profile A into B. I don;t have an answer for your main question. However, you could use the Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings and use the Local Directory field to point your multiple profiles to the same mail and newsgroup data. You do have to be careful not ot overwrite your news rc files, but it can be handy. I do this to have the same mail/news data in SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, and Netscape 7.2. It can work as well for multiple profiles in SeaMonkey. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
