Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-11 Thread John
In article kfwdnairw7na5yrwnz2dnuvz_tcdn...@mozilla.org,
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote:

 Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get Linux/Unix!
 and Be In Charge!   ;-)

Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps, when 
you have Mac OSX which is Unix?
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
John wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get
 Linux/Unix! and Be In Charge!   ;-)
 
 Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps,
 when you have Mac OSX which is Unix?

I do not know what you mean when you say be limited on your apps. I am
using Ubuntu and I have all the apps I could ever need. There are around
twenty thousand applications included in the repositories and all are
free. 

You also missed the wink.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-11 Thread Daniel

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

John wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get
Linux/Unix! and Be In Charge!   ;-)


Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps,
when you have Mac OSX which is Unix?


I do not know what you mean when you say be limited on your apps. I am
using Ubuntu and I have all the apps I could ever need. There are around
twenty thousand applications included in the repositories and all are
free.

You also missed thewink.



Ditto for me and my Mandriva Linux!!

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-11 Thread Phillip Jones

John wrote:

In articlekfwdnairw7na5yrwnz2dnuvz_tcdn...@mozilla.org,
  Beauregard T. Shagnastya.nony.m...@example.invalid  wrote:


Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get Linux/Unix!
and Be In Charge!   ;-)


Why in the world would anyone do that and be limited on your apps, when
you have Mac OSX which is Unix?


Use you can boot into single user mode and run full unvarnished old 
timey command line Unix.


If you have AppleJack installed That's the way you do it. You follow 
their commands  and it impressively looking. Makes you realize if you 
use the wrong command you can really screw up your hard Drive.


Then I worked for school system typing the wrong command in DOS can 
result in Hard drive becoming an expensive paperweight. I assume UNIX 
Linux is just as dangerous if you don't know what your doing.


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread John
In article pjodnxdxrm-ymc_wnz2dnuvz_tadn...@mozilla.org,
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote:

 John wrote:
 
  That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
  wnat this capability built into sea monkey.
 
 Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something
 that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is?  With either of your 2
 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting
 to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application.

Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But its 
very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor).
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread John
In article caednwak6_regi7wnz2dnuvz_v6dn...@mozilla.org,
 Bernard Mercier merci...@not.yahoo.this.com wrote:

 Le 30/03/2010, John a supposé :
  When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? 
  Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont 
  always know.
 There are programs in Windows which perform automatically what you request.
 (google is your friend)
 This functionality doesn't has it's place in SeaMonkey, unless somebody makes
 an addon for it.

I have 2 FTP clients man. But if one is creating websites such a feature 
should be built into the client, just like how its built into my HTML 
editor TextWrangler.
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 4/3/2010 5:46 AM, John typed the following:
 In article pjodnxdxrm-ymc_wnz2dnuvz_tadn...@mozilla.org,
  Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote:
 
 John wrote:

 That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
 wnat this capability built into sea monkey.

 Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something
 that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is?  With either of your 2
 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting
 to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application.
 
 Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But its 
 very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor).

My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer' feature.
Make it an add-on for those that want it.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
BeeNeR wrote:

 John typed the following:
  Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote:
 John wrote:
 That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
 wnat this capability built into sea monkey.
 
 Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with
 something that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is?  With
 either of your 2 good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks
 away from connecting to your web server now. With an
 already-working, proven application.
 
 Sea MOnkey does in a way kinda have this capability built in. But
 its very very limited compared to Text Wrangler (a text editor).
 
 My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
 feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.

My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' installation.
Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Phillip Jones

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

BeeNeR wrote:

---snip---


My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.


My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom' installation.
Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that.

That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg 
(pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or nothing. 
beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's abilities.


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi John:

If SM is like the old Netscape then it already has the ability to UPLOAD 
web pages.
It's done by browsing to the ftp site then drag and drop the file from 
your computer to the web page.


I've been using Composer since it came out in Netscape 3.0.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Phillip Jones wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 BeeNeR wrote:
 My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
 feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.
 
 My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
 during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom'
 installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that. 
 
 That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg
 (pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or
 nothing. beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's
 abilities.

Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get Linux/Unix!
and Be In Charge!   ;-)

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-03 Thread Phillip Jones

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

BeeNeR wrote:

My thoughts are that SM developers should unbundle the 'Composer'
feature. Make it an add-on for those that want it.


My recollection is that the installation of Composer can be refused
during SeaMonkey setup, but you have to choose 'custom'
installation. Naturally, the Average Joe won't do that.


That may be true for nix or even PC, but not Mac. Mac uses dmg
(pronounced dim-edge and stands *Disk image*) files. its all or
nothing. beside with out composer it cripples some of SeaMonkey's
abilities.


Ah so. Then my only remaining suggestion would be to get Linux/Unix!
and Be In Charge!   ;-)



No thanks Mac Os is just fine.  besides its not the OS  that the problem 
it the installer package the use doesn't allow for such if the used a 
Package (pkg) download and when installer open have a way to customize. 
Instead you drag the application out of the dmg and drop it on 
application and everything installs. Even so I would still install all 
the components except maybe the IRC client.


I'm not comfortable using the terminal application to run UNIX commands 
I'd hate to have do that all the time I don't wish to go back to the 
Config.sys files and autoexec.bat and bak files. I had to deal with that 
back when I was working with school system and her a kid could easily go 
in if left to their on devices and run the Init command and wipe out 6 
months worth of files or more,  so next time a teacher aimed to use it 
for their information the would be greeted with a blank screen then I 
would have to go and reinstall everything and have to try to recreate 
everything.


Nope none of that. AS I understand it your still capable whether by 
accident or on purpose to wipe out your main drive while your using it 
or damage your drive so bad, you'll have to go buy another if you type 
an errant key combination

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-01 Thread Ray_Net

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Ray_Net a écrit :

SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites.



Well, to be honest, one could argue that the fact that Composer comes
prepackageed with it makes it so and thus should provide such a function.

S.

So, it's better that SM drop the Composer part of his suite .
otherwise someone will always ask other functionality ... angain and 
again. They have enough work to maintain, and correct bugs - they have 
no time do do all the possible web stuf ... BTW, there a a huge amount 
of unresolved bug, because of lack of votes and lack of interest to 
correct bugs .. it's always funny to create new functionalities, but the 
people is interested by a bug free product .

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-01 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:04:00 +0200, Ray_Net wrote:
 S. Beaulieu wrote:
 Ray_Net a écrit :
 SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites.


 Well, to be honest, one could argue that the fact that Composer comes
 prepackageed with it makes it so and thus should provide such a function.

 S.
 So, it's better that SM drop the Composer part of his suite .
 otherwise someone will always ask other functionality ... angain and 
 again. They have enough work to maintain, and correct bugs - they have 
 no time do do all the possible web stuf ... BTW, there a a huge amount 
 of unresolved bug, because of lack of votes and lack of interest to 
 correct bugs .. it's always funny to create new functionalities, but the 
 people is interested by a bug free product .

Kaze is currently busy backporting KompoZer to comm-central/seamonkey
trunk. KompoZer uses FireFTP for normal FTP uploads and a compiled
binary for SFTP uploads. Perhaps we'll see what happens when Kaze
completes his backport.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-04-01 Thread JeffM
Philip Chee wrote:
Kaze is currently busy backporting KompoZer
to comm-central/seamonkey trunk.
KompoZer uses FireFTP for normal FTP uploads
and a compiled binary for SFTP uploads.
Perhaps we'll see what happens
when Kaze completes his backport.

A good guy to have working with the team.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1423895cid=29914853threshold=1#29921923
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
Le 30/03/2010, John a supposé :
 When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? 
 Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont 
 always know.
There are programs in Windows which perform automatically what you request.
(google is your friend)
This functionality doesn't has it's place in SeaMonkey, unless somebody makes
an addon for it.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-31 Thread WLS
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:45:59 -0400, BeeNeR wrote:

 On or about 3/30/2010 9:33 PM, John typed the following:
 In article i46dnwnmw8vtcs_wnz2dnuvz_qodn...@mozilla.org,
  BeeNeR w3...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Have you tried FireFTP?  It works with SM 2.x.x
 http://fireftp.mozdev.org/
 
 That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
 wnat this capability built into sea monkey.
 
 in that case, the answer to your question is probably never. SeaMonkey
 is a combination Mail/News program and Net Browser program sort of
 rolled into one.  That's the way it should stay.  Not everyone wants a
 lot of other bells and whistles.  KISS.  Add-ons, extensions, other
 themes, etc. are great!  If you want 'em - you got 'em.  If you don't
 want 'em - you don't get 'em.

I want it all rolled into the OS, so I don't have to open programs to do 
different things all the time, and I want it NOW! LOL!





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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-31 Thread Ray_Net

John wrote:

In articleabwdnf9ym5rq8y_wnz2dnuvz_hudn...@mozilla.org,
  Ray_Nettbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be  wrote:


John wrote:

When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server?
Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont
always know.


Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose.


That was not the question.


I know ... but this is the only possibility you have.
SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites.
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UPLOADING websites

2010-03-30 Thread John
When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? 
Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont 
always know.
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-30 Thread Ray_Net

John wrote:

When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server?
Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont
always know.


Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose.
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-30 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 3/30/2010 5:34 PM, Ray_Net typed the following:
 John wrote:
 When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server?
 Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont
 always know.
 
 Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose.

Have you tried FireFTP?  It works with SM 2.x.x
http://fireftp.mozdev.org/

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-30 Thread John
In article i46dnwnmw8vtcs_wnz2dnuvz_qodn...@mozilla.org,
 BeeNeR w3...@verizon.net wrote:

 Have you tried FireFTP?  It works with SM 2.x.x
 http://fireftp.mozdev.org/

That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I wnat 
this capability built into sea monkey.
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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-30 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
John wrote:

 That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
 wnat this capability built into sea monkey.

Why would you want the developers to bloat up SeaMonkey with something
that perhaps 1-2% of users even know what it is?  With either of your 2
good FTP clients, you're at most two mouse-clicks away from connecting
to your web server now. With an already-working, proven application.

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