Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
In news:al6dnszmulln11bjnz2dnuu7-dudn...@mozilla.org, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 30/01/2015 04:50: On 1/29/2015 6:21 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/29/2015 7:44 AM, David E. Ross wrote: It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. They changed their e-mail clients? NO, but they stopped complaining. And I can tell they do use the link to visit my Web page. Anyway it's very annoying to copy/paste a text when they can go on your web site by a simple click. If they think it's SeaMonkey that's annoying them, they should be told that their own clients are at fault. That way they can do something about it if they want to. I guess if it's really important to the sender *not* to annoy people using clients that choke on URLs, the sender gets to take on the annoyance of editing the URLs to suit the sucky clients. If you send me a not-clickable url like this: .https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Roscoff/@48.7115365,-3.9873595,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4813e1457ead5c67:0x7edaeff9d05b4845 Not-clickable? Clicking that URL in your message took me to a google map of part of Brittany. But certainly it's a Bad Idea to put a '.' character right before a URL, just as it's a Good Idea to put a '' character there. [crossposted, followup set to mozilla.general] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
David E. Ross wrote on 30/01/2015 04:50: On 1/29/2015 6:21 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/29/2015 7:44 AM, David E. Ross wrote: It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. They changed their e-mail clients? NO, but they stopped complaining. And I can tell they do use the link to visit my Web page. Anyway it's very annoying to copy/paste a text when they can go on your web site by a simple click. If you send me a not-clickable url like this: .https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Roscoff/@48.7115365,-3.9873595,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4813e1457ead5c67:0x7edaeff9d05b4845 I will not follow your advice ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
David E. Ross wrote on 29/01/2015 16:44: On 1/28/2015 11:25 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/28/2015 1:12 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? Just SeaMonkey, Browser and Mail. OK, then you won't see the problems. Try other non-Mozilla clients. That's the issue I am facing with other e-mail users. :) It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. Could you tell the guys who receive the mail from Ant how to fix their problem ? Because my solution is not accepted by Ant. My solution is that I compose in html and I send the mail in plain-text - So the recipient receive a plain-text mail without surrounding the links. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/29/2015 8:27 AM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 29/01/2015 16:44: On 1/28/2015 11:25 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/28/2015 1:12 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? Just SeaMonkey, Browser and Mail. OK, then you won't see the problems. Try other non-Mozilla clients. That's the issue I am facing with other e-mail users. :) It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. Could you tell the guys who receive the mail from Ant how to fix their problem ? Because my solution is not accepted by Ant. My solution is that I compose in html and I send the mail in plain-text - So the recipient receive a plain-text mail without surrounding the links. I tell them to click on the link; but if that does not work, to copy the link -- excluding the -- and paste it into their browser. To me, anyone who cannot follow that should not use a computer. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/28/2015 11:25 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/28/2015 1:12 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? Just SeaMonkey, Browser and Mail. OK, then you won't see the problems. Try other non-Mozilla clients. That's the issue I am facing with other e-mail users. :) It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
David E. Ross wrote on 29/01/2015 18:49: On 1/29/2015 8:27 AM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 29/01/2015 16:44: On 1/28/2015 11:25 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/28/2015 1:12 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? Just SeaMonkey, Browser and Mail. OK, then you won't see the problems. Try other non-Mozilla clients. That's the issue I am facing with other e-mail users. :) It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. Could you tell the guys who receive the mail from Ant how to fix their problem ? Because my solution is not accepted by Ant. My solution is that I compose in html and I send the mail in plain-text - So the recipient receive a plain-text mail without surrounding the links. I tell them to click on the link; but if that does not work, to copy the link -- excluding the -- and paste it into their browser. To me, anyone who cannot follow that should not use a computer. I will tell this to my 82 year old neighbor: You should NOT use a computer ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/29/2015 7:44 AM, David E. Ross wrote: It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. They changed their e-mail clients? -- When you turn on a light in a room, what happens? Shaw said. The roaches scatter, but the ants keep marching. You can step on them, throw water on them, but they keep on marching. I want ants for my defense. --Willy Shaw /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/29/2015 12:43 PM, Ray_Net wrote: I will tell this to my 82 year old neighbor: You should NOT use a computer ! And then? Funny, my computer friend tells me I should not use a computer too. -- All good work is done the way ants do things: Little by little. --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/29/2015 9:49 AM, David E. Ross wrote: I tell them to click on the link; but if that does not work, to copy the link -- excluding the -- and paste it into their browser. To me, anyone who cannot follow that should not use a computer. I have a lot of computer illiterate clients like this. :( -- All good work is done the way ants do things: Little by little. --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/29/2015 6:21 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/29/2015 7:44 AM, David E. Ross wrote: It is NOT your problem. The problem belongs to users of E-mail applications that are not standards-compliant. Some people in my address book have the same problem. I tell them once how to fix it, and then I ignore their problem. They changed their e-mail clients? NO, but they stopped complaining. And I can tell they do use the link to visit my Web page. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 28/01/15 03:41, Ant wrote: On 1/26/2015 5:43 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? Just SeaMonkey, Browser and Mail. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20150101220549 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/28/2015 1:12 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? Just SeaMonkey, Browser and Mail. OK, then you won't see the problems. Try other non-Mozilla clients. That's the issue I am facing with other e-mail users. :) -- [Laser pulsing] Bah. It's as easy as crushing an ant! You know, the... [grunting] Wh-wh-whoa! Hey, take my wallet and leave me alone! --Mr. Burns from The Simpsons (Fraudcast News; FABF16/FABF18 episode) /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 27/01/2015 2:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Snip Twice nothing is still nothing, so is three or four times nothing. If a 2 KB message becomes an 8 KB message or even an 80 KB message, so what? It's not like you're cutting down an extra forest to make the paper. Thirty years ago, when a 20 MB HDD and a 4.77 MHz CPU was top of the line, maybe it mattered. Today, That's a wristwatch. So you might think, but, just as there are those that are not on ADSL/Cable connections yet, so there are those (pick me) with very limited e-mail accounts (e.g. 500KB) and if everyone had the same arrogant attitude that you seem to have, it would be costing (unemployed) money each day!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20150101220549 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Daniel wrote: On 27/01/2015 2:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Snip Twice nothing is still nothing, so is three or four times nothing. If a 2 KB message becomes an 8 KB message or even an 80 KB message, so what? It's not like you're cutting down an extra forest to make the paper. Thirty years ago, when a 20 MB HDD and a 4.77 MHz CPU was top of the line, maybe it mattered. Today, that's a wristwatch. So you might think, but, just as there are those that are not on ADSL/Cable connections yet, so there are those (pick me) with very limited e-mail accounts (e.g. 500KB) and if everyone had the same arrogant attitude that you seem to have, it would be costing (unemployed) money each day!! This isn't arrogance; I don't think I'm better than you. Reality is that dialup accounts are very rare nowadays in the first world, and so are 500 KB limits. Designing for such criteria unnecessarily hamstrings the majority who routinely download 500 KB in less than a second and multi-gigabyte movies in under an hour. I hope things turn around for you soon and you get a modern connection that serves your needs better. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/26/2015 5:43 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? -- It is not enough to be busy, so are the ants. The question is: what are we busy about? --Henry David Thoreau /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 26/01/2015 05:52: On 1/25/2015 2:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Why did you use plain text for composing mail ? Because I am old school, and don't care for the fancy formattings and stuff. Also, HTML adds file sizes to some slow Internet contacts like those with still with dial-up modems. Sending email as HTML will increase the byte size by 2 to 4 times the number of bytes, especially if you send both HTML and Plain Text. For everyone, not just dial-up users. :-) I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text, You cannot send *HTML* mail in plain text. The two formats are apples and oranges. so the size of your mail will be 2 characters less than your plain-text mail (because there is no in your html mail sent in pure plain text. You have overlooked all the HTML formatting and codes that make up the composition of an HTML email. These codes, fonts, colors, etc will triple or quadruple the size of the document. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 26/01/2015 05:52: On 1/25/2015 2:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Why did you use plain text for composing mail ? Because I am old school, and don't care for the fancy formattings and stuff. Also, HTML adds file sizes to some slow Internet contacts like those with still with dial-up modems. Sending email as HTML will increase the byte size by 2 to 4 times the number of bytes, especially if you send both HTML and Plain Text. For everyone, not just dial-up users. :-) Are there still dial-up users these days? That is SO 20th-century... I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text, You cannot send *HTML* mail in plain text. The two formats are apples and oranges. so the size of your mail will be 2 characters less than your plain-text mail (because there is no in your html mail sent in pure plain text. You have overlooked all the HTML formatting and codes that make up the composition of an HTML email. These codes, fonts, colors, etc will triple or quadruple the size of the document. Twice nothing is still nothing, so is three or four times nothing. If a 2 KB message becomes an 8 KB message or even an 80 KB message, so what? It's not like you're cutting down an extra forest to make the paper. Thirty years ago, when a 20 MB HDD and a 4.77 MHz CPU was top of the line, maybe it mattered. Today, That's a wristwatch. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote on 26/01/2015 15:08: Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 26/01/2015 05:52: On 1/25/2015 2:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Why did you use plain text for composing mail ? Because I am old school, and don't care for the fancy formattings and stuff. Also, HTML adds file sizes to some slow Internet contacts like those with still with dial-up modems. Sending email as HTML will increase the byte size by 2 to 4 times the number of bytes, especially if you send both HTML and Plain Text. For everyone, not just dial-up users. :-) I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text, You cannot send *HTML* mail in plain text. The two formats are apples and oranges. You don't understand what i said My HTML mail is not an HTML mail, but the HTML bar is present, so I can use HTML gadgets, but if I don't use it, the mail will be send automatically in simple plain text. If the gadget is used when i send it, i got this pop-up screen http://www.cjoint.com/15jv/EAAkGrlIIZw.htm And if I choose Send in Plain Text Only all the html parts are stripped off. Per example, here composing this NewsGroup Reply, i put NewsGroup Reply in RED but at the send time, I will send it with the option Send in Plain Text Only... You can analyze my reply to see if the size is increased ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 26/01/15 07:54, Ant wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20150101220549 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ray_Net wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text, You cannot send *HTML* mail in plain text. The two formats are apples and oranges. You don't understand what i said I understood what you wrote, where you did _not_ include: but at the send time, I will send it with the option Send in Plain Text Only... .. which changes everything. You can analyze my reply to see if the size is increased All I see is text in my newsreader, in the font and size of my choosing. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote on 26/01/2015 05:52: On 1/25/2015 2:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 25/01/2015 21:54: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Why did you use plain text for composing mail ? Because I am old school, and don't care for the fancy formattings and stuff. Also, HTML adds file sizes to some slow Internet contacts like those with still with dial-up modems. I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text, so the size of your mail will be 2 characters less than your plain-text mail (because there is no in your html mail sent in pure plain text. HTML option will not insert nor to your mail. I know that. So, it's your solution. I do, it, and if there is no fancy html thing inside, the mail is sent in plain text. I there is one html stuff, SM ask me if a want to send it in html, or in html+text or in text only. Look at this --- http://www.cjoint.com/15jv/EAAkGrlIIZw.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote on 26/01/2015 22:07: Ray_Net wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text, You cannot send *HTML* mail in plain text. The two formats are apples and oranges. You don't understand what i said I understood what you wrote, where you did _not_ include: but at the send time, I will send it with the option Send in Plain Text Only... .. which changes everything. This is not the case when html specificity is *not* used, then the mail is sent in plain-text without asking. You can analyze my reply to see if the size is increased All I see is text in my newsreader, in the font and size of my choosing. So all is ok ... and will be ok also if i had not put a part of the text in red. (the pop-up will not come) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/25/2015 2:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 25/01/2015 21:54: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Why did you use plain text for composing mail ? Because I am old school, and don't care for the fancy formattings and stuff. Also, HTML adds file sizes to some slow Internet contacts like those with still with dial-up modems. HTML option will not insert nor to your mail. I know that. -- Ants can destroy a tree. Therefore this ant can destroy a tree. --Logic Fallacy /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. A song (i/wa)s playing on this computer: Britney Spears - Toxic (Enubus Mix) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/25/2015 3:30 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) The use of or other delimiters is strongly recommended in RFC 3986. Why do you want to ignore that recommendation? And then, my e-mail receipts will get annoyed when URL don't work because their e-mail clients don't link correctly or at all. :( I am trying to be basic and lowest denominator with e-mail receivers. -- What is it going to be like in eternity with God? Frankly, the capacity of our brains cannot handle the wonder and greatness of heaven. It would be like trying to describe the Internet to an ant. --Rick Warren's book, The Purpose Driven Life /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. A song (i/wa)s playing on this computer: Britney Spears - Toxic (Frosts Mix) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/25/2015 8:53 PM, Ant wrote: On 1/25/2015 3:30 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) The use of or other delimiters is strongly recommended in RFC 3986. Why do you want to ignore that recommendation? And then, my e-mail receipts will get annoyed when URL don't work because their e-mail clients don't link correctly or at all. :( I am trying to be basic and lowest denominator with e-mail receivers. You are trying to accommodate recipients who are using defective E-mail applications. Instead of trying to defeat the RFC, you should suggest that the recipients upgrade to a standards-compliant E-mail application. I send an E-mail message every January to a list of about 40 relatives and friends. The message has a link to our annual newsletter, which is in the form of a Web page. The link is bracketed by . The message tells those whose E-mail applications cannot handle how to copy and paste the link into their browsers. Only 23 relatives and friends prefer the newsletter as hardcopy sent via the U.S. Postal Service. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote on 25/01/2015 21:54: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Why did you use plain text for composing mail ? HTML option will not insert nor to your mail. And if you did not use html specific entries, your mail will be sent in plain text. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/25/2015 12:54 PM, Ant wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) On 1/18/2015 10:26 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) The use of or other delimiters is strongly recommended in RFC 3986. Why do you want to ignore that recommendation? -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) On 1/18/2015 10:26 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) -- We ants are runnin' the show! We're the lords of the earth! --ANTZ /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote on 20/01/2015 08:09: On 1/19/2015 3:33 PM, Ray_Net wrote: When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. If I understand correctly he is on a page and uses Send This Page..., which opens the email compose window in SeaMonkey with the URL already inserted with the and surrounding it. I tried Send Page and Send link ... and both give me an url without the and surrounding it. Is that e-mail in plain text format? HTML format won't show and in URLs. It's HTML format for composition. You can do the same. If HTML codes are not used, you send your mail in plain-text. If, by inadevrtance, you put html codes in it - you have the choice, when sending to send it in plain-text. So both cases permit you to send in plain-text and the url will never be surrounded. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
In news:apednsozuy3pscdjnz2dnuu7-todn...@mozilla.org, Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/01/2015 14:26, Ant wrote: I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. That's odd. are standard delimiters for urls and have been for decades. There's probably a RFC on this. Yup, decades. RFC 1738, _Uniform Resource Locators (URL)_, 1994 Berners-Lee et al. TMI, I know, but I just happened to have it open in a tab and I couldn't resist. Any mailnews software that doesn't recognize those as delimiters is seriously broken. Mutt historically didn't do any URL-recognition. (I'm not even sure it does now; maybe it's really the terminal doing that for Ant's recipient.) Mutt users piped message bodies to something that does, usually urlview. I just tested urlview by piping a few messages to it, and it handles the delimiters fine. Ant, you might point the Mutt users towards that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote on 19/01/2015 18:48: I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? I also forgot to mention that I am using plain text formats for e-mails if that matters. I cannot figure out how to use HTML format to test if that makes any differences. :( From the Email window select Edit Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings... Composition and Addressing for the account you want to change. Then tick the Compose messages in HTML format check box. Thank you. Sheesh, I was looking in the wrong places. :( Anyways, I tried it there and it was linked without and symbols. I really dislike using these fancy HTML formats. I am old school. :/ Yes, but i used this (HTML) option for writing a mail. 1. If i don't use html commands, the mail is sent in pure plain text. 2. I have the choice when sending to send: a. in html and text b. in text c. in html so you can do Settings... Composition and Addressing for the account you want to change. Then tick the Compose messages in HTML format check box. And maintain your sending un plain text. The side-effect is the url you inserted will be without ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
WaltS48 wrote on 19/01/2015 17:59: On 01/19/2015 11:32 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 19/01/2015 07:26: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. If I understand correctly he is on a page and uses Send This Page..., which opens the email compose window in SeaMonkey with the URL already inserted with the and surrounding it. I tried Send Page and Send link ... and both give me an url without the and surrounding it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/19/2015 7:11 PM, »Q« wrote: Mutt historically didn't do any URL-recognition. (I'm not even sure it does now; maybe it's really the terminal doing that for Ant's recipient.) Mutt users piped message bodies to something that does, usually urlview. I just tested urlview by piping a few messages to it, and it handles the delimiters fine. Ant, you might point the Mutt users towards that. I don't see any urlview in my ~/.muttrc, but I did find auto_view text/html line. I am not worried about that. I am worried about other e-mail clients that I have no control over like EarthLink's webmail. -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/19/2015 3:33 PM, Ray_Net wrote: When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. If I understand correctly he is on a page and uses Send This Page..., which opens the email compose window in SeaMonkey with the URL already inserted with the and surrounding it. I tried Send Page and Send link ... and both give me an url without the and surrounding it. Is that e-mail in plain text format? HTML format won't show and in URLs. -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 19/01/2015 14:26, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. That's odd. are standard delimiters for urls and have been for decades. There's probably a RFC on this. Any mailnews software that doesn't recognize those as delimiters is seriously broken. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? I've never received any complaints on this particular topic. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote on 1/19/2015 1:26 AM: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) Send this page does not put ls gt around links for me. Maybe a little more info as to what exactly your process is would help. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ All generalizations are false. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. If I understand correctly he is on a page and uses Send This Page..., which opens the email compose window in SeaMonkey with the URL already inserted with the and surrounding it. The problem is with his recipients using Mutt and Earthlink's webmail (maybe others) who receive the links as not clickable. Yes, that is correct. My test with SeaMonkey 2.31 sent to this account from my primary account works. I guess one method for him to try would be to remove the and before sending. Yes, I might have to do that for now on. :( But and are useful for very long and complex URLs when they are supported correctly. I guess I will have to do both ways (without and with). :( -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/19/2015 8:40 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: The brackets around a URI are specified in Appendix C of RFC 3986. They are especially important when a URI is part of non-HTML text and also when a URI is sufficiently lengthy that it requires more than a single line of text. Yes, I always use when I post links manually (I use plain text composition exclusively). Do your e-mail receivers get no linkables like in Mutt, EarthLink's Webmail, etc. I wonder what othern e-mail clients have this problem too. They basically get annoyed when links don't work, not linked, have to manually copy and paste, etc. :( -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote on 1/19/2015 12:05 PM: On 1/19/2015 7:40 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) Send this page does not put ls gt around links for me. Maybe a little more info as to what exactly your process is would help. Really? For an example on http://www.insideredbox.com/?awt_l=FM.nQawt_m=JxnsMgKSPmK97L web page, send as page shows http://www.insideredbox.com/?awt_l=FM.nQawt_m=JxnsMgKSPmK97L in my SM v2.32 (and previous versions) e-mail composers. Yes, really. A right-click on those (or any) page produces this menu: http://edmullen.net/temp/sm_cap_001.jpg SeaMonkey 2.31 Beta 1 on Windows 7 Prof 64-bit. Only send option is Send this page. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice. - George Jackson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? I also forgot to mention that I am using plain text formats for e-mails if that matters. I cannot figure out how to use HTML format to test if that makes any differences. :( From the Email window select Edit Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings... Composition and Addressing for the account you want to change. Then tick the Compose messages in HTML format check box. Thank you. Sheesh, I was looking in the wrong places. :( Anyways, I tried it there and it was linked without and symbols. I really dislike using these fancy HTML formats. I am old school. :/ -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/19/2015 7:40 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) Send this page does not put ls gt around links for me. Maybe a little more info as to what exactly your process is would help. Really? For an example on http://www.insideredbox.com/?awt_l=FM.nQawt_m=JxnsMgKSPmK97L web page, send as page shows http://www.insideredbox.com/?awt_l=FM.nQawt_m=JxnsMgKSPmK97L in my SM v2.32 (and previous versions) e-mail composers. -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/18/2015 10:26 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) I also forgot to mention that I am using plain text formats for e-mails if that matters. I cannot figure out how to use HTML format to test if that makes any differences. :( -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/18/2015 10:26 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) The brackets around a URI are specified in Appendix C of RFC 3986. They are especially important when a URI is part of non-HTML text and also when a URI is sufficiently lengthy that it requires more than a single line of text. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote on 19/01/2015 07:26: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ray_Net wrote on 1/19/2015 11:32 AM: Ant wrote on 19/01/2015 07:26: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. They are both active links. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Alzheimer's advantage: New friends every day. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/19/2015 8:30 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/18/2015 10:26 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) The brackets around a URI are specified in Appendix C of RFC 3986. They are especially important when a URI is part of non-HTML text and also when a URI is sufficiently lengthy that it requires more than a single line of text. Oops. I selected Send too soon. On the other hand, the delimiters should not be used when composing a message on a Web page (e.g., Web mail) as those are also delimiters for HTML. Alternative delimiters include [] and . Note that bracketed URIs were properly handled by Eudora some 20 years ago. Any application or service that fails to handle them today is very, very wrong. See ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3986.txt. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
David E. Ross wrote: The brackets around a URI are specified in Appendix C of RFC 3986. They are especially important when a URI is part of non-HTML text and also when a URI is sufficiently lengthy that it requires more than a single line of text. Yes, I always use when I post links manually (I use plain text composition exclusively). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 01/19/2015 11:32 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ant wrote on 19/01/2015 07:26: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. If I understand correctly he is on a page and uses Send This Page..., which opens the email compose window in SeaMonkey with the URL already inserted with the and surrounding it. The problem is with his recipients using Mutt and Earthlink's webmail (maybe others) who receive the links as not clickable. My test with SeaMonkey 2.31 sent to this account from my primary account works. I guess one method for him to try would be to remove the and before sending. I notice Thunderbird (38.0a1 anyway) doesn't add the and , when I use Email Link in Firefox. -- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0a1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Ant wrote: On 1/18/2015 10:26 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) I also forgot to mention that I am using plain text formats for e-mails if that matters. I cannot figure out how to use HTML format to test if that makes any differences. :( From the Email window select Edit Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings... Composition and Addressing for the account you want to change. Then tick the Compose messages in HTML format check box. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 01/19/2015 12:32 PM, Ant wrote: I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) When i wrote http://www.microsoft.com i don't see nor my url is not surrounded. Here i insert a link to see what happens after sending http://www.microsoft.com then send all in plain text only. If I understand correctly he is on a page and uses Send This Page..., which opens the email compose window in SeaMonkey with the URL already inserted with the and surrounding it. The problem is with his recipients using Mutt and Earthlink's webmail (maybe others) who receive the links as not clickable. Yes, that is correct. My test with SeaMonkey 2.31 sent to this account from my primary account works. I guess one method for him to try would be to remove the and before sending. Yes, I might have to do that for now on. :( But and are useful for very long and complex URLs when they are supported correctly. I guess I will have to do both ways (without and with). :( Use the TinyURL generator site for the long ones. http://tinyurl.com/ -- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0a1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
WaltS48 wrote on 1/19/2015 12:36 PM: Ant wrote: On 1/18/2015 10:26 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) I also forgot to mention that I am using plain text formats for e-mails if that matters. I cannot figure out how to use HTML format to test if that makes any differences. :( From the Email window select Edit Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings... Composition and Addressing for the account you want to change. Then tick the Compose messages in HTML format check box. Easier to hold Shift and click Compose. Also, that way the change is not permanent. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ In the 60's, people took acid to make the world appear weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it appear normal. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/19/2015 9:49 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Send this page does not put ls gt around links for me. Maybe a little more info as to what exactly your process is would help. Really? For an example on http://www.insideredbox.com/?awt_l=FM.nQawt_m=JxnsMgKSPmK97L web page, send as page shows http://www.insideredbox.com/?awt_l=FM.nQawt_m=JxnsMgKSPmK97L in my SM v2.32 (and previous versions) e-mail composers. Yes, really. A right-click on those (or any) page produces this menu: http://edmullen.net/temp/sm_cap_001.jpg SeaMonkey 2.31 Beta 1 on Windows 7 Prof 64-bit. Only send option is Send this page. Wow, you have tons of options. Yeah, mine is similiar but I get and in my new e-mail draft. Also, it has to be in plain text format and not HTML format (no and ). -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/19/2015 9:52 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Yes, I might have to do that for now on. :( But and are useful for very long and complex URLs when they are supported correctly. I guess I will have to do both ways (without and with). :( Use the TinyURL generator site for the long ones. http://tinyurl.com/ Yeah, I was hoping to avoid that to avoid multiple trips. :( -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Hello. I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of and usages in SeaMonkey's composers. Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use and for URLs. How can I disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages? Thank you in advance. :) -- This worker ant will be unemployed after Friday, the 23rd, as of 1/15/2015 @ 11 AM PST. :( /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
