Re: Wondering about Firefox and Seamonkey comparison
WLS wrote: JeffM wrote: Norvin wrote: I would suggest that you check out the useragent and make a change to it. [...] Notice the NOT Firefox/3.5.6 which is the key as I understand it. The NOT part is for *a human* that looks at the site's logs. OTOH, these idiots who are sniffing improperly[1] won't know what to make of that in their logs --even if they actually do look at their logs. ...and *permanantly* altering your user agent string will give *inaccurate* information to the **good** webmasters which hurts SeaMonkey, your chosen browser. ONLY change the string *temporarily* and ONLY if you absolutely *have* to use one of these crapped-up sites. When you do alter the user agent string, REPORT THE PROBLEM to the site owner. ...and the best solution to this is to find another site that offers a similar product/service --a site that isn't run by idiots who don't know what they're doing; a site that hires competent workers/contractors. . . [1] **ANY** sniffing is actually retarded --it's not necessary; see the page David linked Tell the idiots running the crappy site to just make STANDARDS-COMPLIANT pages. Like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3schools.com/html/ NOT like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 Also, you might want to contact them and direct them to this site. http://geckoisgecko.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey I did send them some links for Seamonkey support as well as the 2 links above and used the validator on their link for Farmville from Facebook and it came up with 18 errors and 5 warnings which I pointed out to them so they must be smoking better drugs than I can afford. Also I had to point out to the tech that he really wasn't familiar with Seamonkey at all because when he wrote back he referred to it as Sea Monkey. I sent this info 2 days ago and have yet to here back from them again, too bad I sent it through my Yahoo mail account as it doesn't save sent mail. When and if they reply again I will forward the geckoisgecko link to them. -- Big Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wondering about Firefox and Seamonkey comparison
JeffM wrote: Norvin wrote: I would suggest that you check out the useragent and make a change to it. [...] Notice the NOT Firefox/3.5.6 which is the key as I understand it. The NOT part is for *a human* that looks at the site's logs. OTOH, these idiots who are sniffing improperly[1] won't know what to make of that in their logs --even if they actually do look at their logs. ...and *permanantly* altering your user agent string will give *inaccurate* information to the **good** webmasters which hurts SeaMonkey, your chosen browser. ONLY change the string *temporarily* and ONLY if you absolutely *have* to use one of these crapped-up sites. When you do alter the user agent string, REPORT THE PROBLEM to the site owner. ...and the best solution to this is to find another site that offers a similar product/service --a site that isn't run by idiots who don't know what they're doing; a site that hires competent workers/contractors. . . [1] **ANY** sniffing is actually retarded --it's not necessary; see the page David linked Tell the idiots running the crappy site to just make STANDARDS-COMPLIANT pages. Like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3schools.com/html/ NOT like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 Also, you might want to contact them and direct them to this site. http://geckoisgecko.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wondering about Firefox and Seamonkey comparison
William Morrison wrote: Hey Group I just got an email back from the support group for Farmville on Facebook where I had requested some help with a problem I had with FV using IE-8 but I also told them I had Seamonkey 2.0.6 and had use it as a work around for the problem to a point. I've ask on here about problems on Facebook apps and games using Seamonkey, can't remember if it was v1.x.x or the newer versions. But anyway I was told the Seamonkey wasn't very friendly with Flashplayer apps by someone on support here. Now here's the rub, the tech from Zynga Farmville tells me that Zynga recommends the use of Mozilla Firefox for it is the nearest compatible browser for the application platform used for FarmVille. Now I may be wrong on this but isn't Seamonkey 2.x.x using the same Gecko open source software that Firefox uses and if so why doesn't it work well with Farmville? Bill, I have had like problems off/on in the past. They always seem to appear after an update of SM. I would suggest that you check out the useragent and make a change to it. I did and everything is running OK now. Below is my useragent, and you can do a google on useragent for more info. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 NOT Firefox/3.5.6 Notice the NOT Firefox/3.5.6 which is the key as I understand it. Hope this helps, I currently have no trouble with FV. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wondering about Firefox and Seamonkey comparison
On 8/8/10 3:25 PM, William Morrison wrote: Hey Group I just got an email back from the support group for Farmville on Facebook where I had requested some help with a problem I had with FV using IE-8 but I also told them I had Seamonkey 2.0.6 and had use it as a work around for the problem to a point. I've ask on here about problems on Facebook apps and games using Seamonkey, can't remember if it was v1.x.x or the newer versions. But anyway I was told the Seamonkey wasn't very friendly with Flashplayer apps by someone on support here. Now here's the rub, the tech from Zynga Farmville tells me that Zynga recommends the use of Mozilla Firefox for it is the nearest compatible browser for the application platform used for FarmVille. Now I may be wrong on this but isn't Seamonkey 2.x.x using the same Gecko open source software that Firefox uses and if so why doesn't it work well with Farmville? See my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Wondering about Firefox and Seamonkey comparison
Hey Group I just got an email back from the support group for Farmville on Facebook where I had requested some help with a problem I had with FV using IE-8 but I also told them I had Seamonkey 2.0.6 and had use it as a work around for the problem to a point. I've ask on here about problems on Facebook apps and games using Seamonkey, can't remember if it was v1.x.x or the newer versions. But anyway I was told the Seamonkey wasn't very friendly with Flashplayer apps by someone on support here. Now here's the rub, the tech from Zynga Farmville tells me that Zynga recommends the use of Mozilla Firefox for it is the nearest compatible browser for the application platform used for FarmVille. Now I may be wrong on this but isn't Seamonkey 2.x.x using the same Gecko open source software that Firefox uses and if so why doesn't it work well with Farmville? -- Big Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
