Re: cnn news video ?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/16/13 9:59 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


I believe cookies are written to cookies.sqlite when SeaMonkey
terminates.  This happens well after I have visited the Web sites
that sent the cookies.  Thus, the sites act as if they have indeed
set persistent cookies when, actually, they have set only session
cookies.


This theory is easily tested.

1) With SeaMonkey closed, copy cookies.sqlite to a safe place from which
you can restore it after the test.

2) Make the original cookies.sqlite in your SeaMonkey profile (not the
archive copy) writable.

3) Launch SeaMonkey and browse to one or more sites that you expect to
set cookies. Confirm with Cookie Manager that they have done so. Do not
terminate SeaMonkey.

4) In Windows Explorer, look at the date/time stamp of the active
cookies.sqlite file in your SeaMonkey profile and see if it has changed.
If it has, you're wrong.

5) Terminate SeaMonkey and check the date/time stamp of the active
cookies.sqlite file in your SeaMonkey profile and see if it has changed.
If it has now, but not before, you're right.

6) Restore your archived, read-only copy of cookies.sqlite to your
SeaMonkey profile. Make sure it's read-only.



Hmm.  The time stamp did change at step #4 and again at step #5.

However, Web sites that want to set persistant cookies do not object
when cookies.sqlite is set read-only.  They apparently do not recognize
the failure to write their cookies onto disc.


Interesting that your results are different from mine.

In my case, the files cookies.sqlite-shm and cookies.sqlite-wal did 
update while SeaMonkey was open, but cookies.sqlite itself did not until 
I terminated the program.


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Re: cnn news video ?

[David E. Ross]

On 8/16/13 9:59 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> I believe cookies are written to cookies.sqlite when SeaMonkey
>> terminates.  This happens well after I have visited the Web sites
>> that sent the cookies.  Thus, the sites act as if they have indeed
>> set persistent cookies when, actually, they have set only session
>> cookies.
> 
> This theory is easily tested.
> 
> 1) With SeaMonkey closed, copy cookies.sqlite to a safe place from which 
> you can restore it after the test.
> 
> 2) Make the original cookies.sqlite in your SeaMonkey profile (not the 
> archive copy) writable.
> 
> 3) Launch SeaMonkey and browse to one or more sites that you expect to 
> set cookies. Confirm with Cookie Manager that they have done so. Do not 
> terminate SeaMonkey.
> 
> 4) In Windows Explorer, look at the date/time stamp of the active 
> cookies.sqlite file in your SeaMonkey profile and see if it has changed. 
> If it has, you're wrong.
> 
> 5) Terminate SeaMonkey and check the date/time stamp of the active 
> cookies.sqlite file in your SeaMonkey profile and see if it has changed. 
> If it has now, but not before, you're right.
> 
> 6) Restore your archived, read-only copy of cookies.sqlite to your 
> SeaMonkey profile. Make sure it's read-only.
> 

Hmm.  The time stamp did change at step #4 and again at step #5.

However, Web sites that want to set persistant cookies do not object
when cookies.sqlite is set read-only.  They apparently do not recognize
the failure to write their cookies onto disc.


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Re: cnn news video ?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


I believe cookies are written to cookies.sqlite when SeaMonkey
terminates.  This happens well after I have visited the Web sites
that sent the cookies.  Thus, the sites act as if they have indeed
set persistent cookies when, actually, they have set only session
cookies.


This theory is easily tested.

1) With SeaMonkey closed, copy cookies.sqlite to a safe place from which 
you can restore it after the test.


2) Make the original cookies.sqlite in your SeaMonkey profile (not the 
archive copy) writable.


3) Launch SeaMonkey and browse to one or more sites that you expect to 
set cookies. Confirm with Cookie Manager that they have done so. Do not 
terminate SeaMonkey.


4) In Windows Explorer, look at the date/time stamp of the active 
cookies.sqlite file in your SeaMonkey profile and see if it has changed. 
If it has, you're wrong.


5) Terminate SeaMonkey and check the date/time stamp of the active 
cookies.sqlite file in your SeaMonkey profile and see if it has changed. 
If it has now, but not before, you're right.


6) Restore your archived, read-only copy of cookies.sqlite to your 
SeaMonkey profile. Make sure it's read-only.


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Re: cnn news video ?

[David E. Ross]

On 8/16/13 8:43 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/16/13 12:50 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/15/13 6:39 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:
>>> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html
>>>
>>> SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
>>> current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current
>>>
>>> anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
>>> the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok 
>>> (BBC.com)
>>>
>>
>> When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
>> everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
>> safe mode.
>>
>> I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
>> I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.
>>
> D.E.R,
> did you try erasing all cookies right after you did the spoofing and
> disabling?
>

 I just now tried it after erasing ALL cookies.  (Fortunately, my
 cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only.) .

>>>
>>> maybe refusing new cookies is the whole problem?
>>> GW
>>>
>>
>> Not only did I set my preference to allow ALL cookies, but I also
>> enabled Flash to write Web site data to my hard drive.  I still cannot
>> see the news item, only the ad.
>>
> 
> but doesn't your "cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only" contradict 
> the SM preference to accept cookies?
> 
> GW
> 

I believe cookies are written to cookies.sqlite when SeaMonkey
terminates.  This happens well after I have visited the Web sites that
sent the cookies.  Thus, the sites act as if they have indeed set
persistent cookies when, actually, they have set only session cookies.

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Re: cnn news video ?

[Geoff Welsh]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/16/13 12:50 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/15/13 6:39 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)



When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
safe mode.

I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.


D.E.R,
did you try erasing all cookies right after you did the spoofing and
disabling?



I just now tried it after erasing ALL cookies.  (Fortunately, my
cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only.) .



maybe refusing new cookies is the whole problem?
GW



Not only did I set my preference to allow ALL cookies, but I also
enabled Flash to write Web site data to my hard drive.  I still cannot
see the news item, only the ad.



but doesn't your "cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only" contradict 
the SM preference to accept cookies?


GW
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Re: cnn news video ?

[Paul]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/16/13 12:50 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/15/13 6:39 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)


When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
safe mode.

I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
   I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.


D.E.R,
did you try erasing all cookies right after you did the spoofing and
disabling?


I just now tried it after erasing ALL cookies.  (Fortunately, my
cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only.) .


maybe refusing new cookies is the whole problem?
GW



Not only did I set my preference to allow ALL cookies, but I also
enabled Flash to write Web site data to my hard drive.  I still cannot
see the news item, only the ad.


Try turning off FF23 and turning on FF9 or FF10.
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Re: cnn news video ?

[David E. Ross]

On 8/16/13 12:50 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/15/13 6:39 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html
>
> SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
> current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current
>
> anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
> the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok 
> (BBC.com)
>

 When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
 everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
 safe mode.

 I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.

>>> D.E.R,
>>> did you try erasing all cookies right after you did the spoofing and
>>> disabling?
>>>
>>
>> I just now tried it after erasing ALL cookies.  (Fortunately, my
>> cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only.) .
>>
> 
> maybe refusing new cookies is the whole problem?
> GW
> 

Not only did I set my preference to allow ALL cookies, but I also
enabled Flash to write Web site data to my hard drive.  I still cannot
see the news item, only the ad.

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Re: cnn news video ?

[Jim]

rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html


SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)

Work OK with me SM2.20 Windows 7

A month ago, I was having problem with all CNN videos.  The first time I 
would try to play them, they would stop, and I would get a message from 
my video card driver that it had recovered from a crash.  If I tried to 
go to the video the second time, I'd get a blue screen.


IE 9.0 worked OK on the videos.

So I stopped watching CNN videos until recently.  I've been updating all 
my programs as new updates come out.  Someone must have fixed the 
problem, because I no longer get video crashes on CNN (either on my end 
or CNN's end).


Jim
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Re: cnn news video ?

[Geoff Welsh]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/15/13 6:39 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)



When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
safe mode.

I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
   I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.


D.E.R,
did you try erasing all cookies right after you did the spoofing and
disabling?



I just now tried it after erasing ALL cookies.  (Fortunately, my
cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only.) .



maybe refusing new cookies is the whole problem?
GW

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Re: cnn news video ?

[David E. Ross]

On 8/15/13 6:39 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:
>>> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html
>>>
>>> SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
>>> current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current
>>>
>>> anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
>>> the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)
>>>
>>
>> When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
>> everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
>> safe mode.
>>
>> I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
>>   I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.
>>
> D.E.R,
> did you try erasing all cookies right after you did the spoofing and 
> disabling?  Some sites seem to remember that they don't work, (for lack 
> of a better metaphor) even after you turn the right knobs (good metaphor).
> 
> IME, of course,
> 
> GW
> 

I just now tried it after erasing ALL cookies.  (Fortunately, my
cookies.sqlite file is marked read-only.)  I spoofed Firefox/23 for
Windows, enabled Flash (disabled the FlashBlock extension), and set the
preference for all images.

I get the ad for USAA Insurance but not the newscast.

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Re: cnn news video ?

[Geoff Welsh]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)



When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
safe mode.

I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
  I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.


D.E.R,
did you try erasing all cookies right after you did the spoofing and 
disabling?  Some sites seem to remember that they don't work, (for lack 
of a better metaphor) even after you turn the right knobs (good metaphor).


IME, of course,

GW
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Re: cnn news video ?

[Ant]

On 8/13/2013 2:50 PM PT, Trane Francks typed:
...

Sweet video, too.


No problems (updated XP Pro. SP3 with v2.20, ABP, FlashBlock, etc.) and 
ditto for me too.

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Re: cnn news video ?

[Paul]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)



When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
safe mode.

I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
 I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.


It works for me:
SeaMonkey 1.1.19
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) 
Gecko/20100228 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 Chrome/6 Firefox/3.6 Firefox/11.0 
SeaMonkey/2.8 NOT Firefox/3.5 Firefox/2.0.0.24  Firefox/9.0.1

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Re: cnn news video ?

[David E. Ross]

On 8/13/13 9:19 AM, rjkrjk wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html
> 
> SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
> current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current
> 
> anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
> the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)
> 

When I go to that link, I see the video of the advertisement.  Then,
everything stops.  This happens not only with my extensions but also in
safe mode.

I have tried spoofing Firefox/23.  I have tried disabling AdBlock Plus.
 I have tried enabling HTML5media.  None of that helps.

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Re: cnn news video ?

[Trane Francks]

On 8/14/13 1:19 AM +0900, rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)

Worked fine for me with Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; 
rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 and Shockwave Flash 
11.8.800.94.


Sweet video, too.
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Re: cnn news video ?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

rjkrjk wrote:





SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)


WFM
SM 2.20, Win7ProSP1
Shockwave Flash 11.8.800.94, Shockwave for Director 12.0.3.133

That Robin Meade, she's a looker, thanks!

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Re: cnn news video ?

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On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:19:58 PM rjkrjk wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-n
> avy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html
> 
> SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
> current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current
> 
> anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
> the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok
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cnn news video ?

[rjkrjk]

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html

SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)
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