Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Evan Davidson wrote: DoctorBill wrote: snip Don't get me wrong: OE is not my preference, SM is. I only use the technique I described when I can't use SM to do what I want. When the jokes are worth forwarding, the whole process isn't really too tedious. I'm too anal to pass along the ugly multiply-forwarded notes that are so common. At least when they pass through me they get properly formatted and cleaned-up. Evan, every time I receive one of those emails that have been forwarded on thirty-nine times to everyone in the posters favorites folders, I'm left wondering how long it will be before someone starts a legal case because they got hit by a virus/worm/trojan/whatever because their email address was on an email that got sent to someone who was infected, if you get what I mean!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Daniel wrote: snip Evan, every time I receive one of those emails that have been forwarded on thirty-nine times to everyone in the posters favorites folders, I'm left wondering how long it will be before someone starts a legal case because they got hit by a virus/worm/trojan/whatever because their email address was on an email that got sent to someone who was infected, if you get what I mean!! Daniel In some forwarded mail, I have found scripts which I remove with the OE HTML Source Editor so you're right these e-mails can be risky. I never allow Javascript or plug-ins to run in Mail Newsgroups -- it's a good way to avoid getting a STD (Sneakily Transmitted Disease). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
DoctorBill wrote: snip I have tried Reply with these eml messages and if you erase the address of the replied to person(s), you can put in new addresses. However - this leaves the entire eml in place and editable (is that a word?). Works kind-a-like forwarding, but doesn't put the eml as an attachment - it allows one to edit the message. *EML messages usually have many boxes around them - not all are removable.* 'tworketh.! DoctorBill Your idea is a good one but there are some limits. If you wish to clean up a messy eml with multiple vertical lines (blockquotes), indents and all the unnecessary boxes while being able to properly center the graphics, Outlook Express or Winmail (both free in Windows) works better. OE allows one to copy and paste the content in another compose window (a clean-up trick) without losing the pictures while TB and SM may not. In addition, if you know a litle HTML, the OE Source Editor can be invaluable for cleaning out unwanted crap, Don't get me wrong: OE is not my preference, SM is. I only use the technique I described when I can't use SM to do what I want. When the jokes are worth forwarding, the whole process isn't really too tedious. I'm too anal to pass along the ugly multiply-forwarded notes that are so common. At least when they pass through me they get properly formatted and cleaned-up. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Evan Davidson wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. I copy the message by highlighting and Ctrl-C, but the photos or graphics do not paste into a new mail frame. I tried copying the eml attachment itself and pasting, but the graphics gets lost. I even tried pasting the eml into WORD and no graphics. Pasting w/o formatting does not work either. Is there some trick to this w/o purchasing some expensive program to handle eml ? DoctorBill I have experimented with this problem in SM and the only reliable and editable solution I've found is to use File-Save As-File to save the note with images as a *.eml (type: mail file) to my Desktop. I then open it in Outlook Express (or WinMail) and I can now edit it to my heart's content (strip out headers, delete Blockquotes (using Source tab) and reformat it to my liking (using Edit tab). Then I Send it from OE as a completely cleaned-up original message. EML (Encapsulated MaiL) is OE's native file format and it will reliably text-encode all the images and include them. TB and SM know that embedded images are in their mailboxes so you can always see them on your computer but they don't encode them and mail them out as a multi-part message in MIME format. (The latter was created by Microsoft.) Images that have links to other servers or if they're attachments will be sent out properly by TB and OE. You can also save each incoming message image separately (using the Image Zoom add-on, http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#imagezoom ) and use Insert Image to embed it in SM and TB. It will then be sent out as an EML message. SM and TB seem to read, save and sometimes create EML messages but forwarding an incoming message with embedded images is problematic from my experience. Unfortunately, the workarounds are unwieldy. (If you want a seamless process, using OE is the answer.) I have tried Reply with these eml messages and if you erase the address of the replied to person(s), you can put in new addresses. However - this leaves the entire eml in place and editable (is that a word?). Works kind-a-like forwarding, but doesn't put the eml as an attachment - it allows one to edit the message. EML messages usually have many boxes around them - not all are removable. 'tworketh.! DoctorBill -- Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. ~ Winston Churchill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:45:10 -0700, /DoctorBill/: Is there some trick to this w/o purchasing some expensive program to handle eml ? Yeah, one should be able to handle .eml (message/rfc822) attachments pretty much like native messages - copy to folder, reply to or forward them: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11013 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193281 etc. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269826 In the mean time one could install the ImportExportTools extension: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#importexporttools Save the .eml attachment to disk and import it as a normal message into some folder, then do what you wanna do with it. Most interestingwhy not ADD to SeaMonkey E-Mail the ability to handle eml messages ? Would it be that difficult to do add to the system ? Why have an extension if many people will use the ap ? DoctorBill -- Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. ~ Winston Churchill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Tue, 10 Aug 2010 02:01:21 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? I case you haven't find out, select the image, Format - Image Properties... [ ] Attach this image to the message. See also http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_remote.php. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 02:01:21 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? I case you haven't find out, select the image, Format - Image Properties... [ ] Attach this image to the message. See also http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_remote.php. Perfect. Hope the OP sees this. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
DoctorBill wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent adress and send it. When I receive an E-mail message with an eml attachement, I read the message and then trash it without looking at the attachment. If the attachment happens to download, I trash it without opening it. I get already get many jokes in text form, jokes that don't require any graphic enhancement. I avoid most political messages on advice of my doctor, who nevertheless had to prescribe medication to lower my blood pressure. :) But some of the stuff that comes out of the conservative wing is so hilarious that you just have to forward it around. You know, stuff like we have to trim the deficit by giving huge tax breaks to the rich, or it's all Obama's fault that the Bushies destroyed our economy, or the records clerk in Hawaii 50 years ago forged a birth certificate because they knew one day the baby would be a Democratic president. You just can't make some of this $#!+ up... Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? You will get what you deserve for voting for Obama. Promises, promises! -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent adress and send it. When I receive an E-mail message with an eml attachement, I read the message and then trash it without looking at the attachment. If the attachment happens to download, I trash it without opening it. I get already get many jokes in text form, jokes that don't require any graphic enhancement. I avoid most political messages on advice of my doctor, who nevertheless had to prescribe medication to lower my blood pressure. :) But some of the stuff that comes out of the conservative wing is so hilarious that you just have to forward it around. You know, stuff like we have to trim the deficit by giving huge tax breaks to the rich, or it's all Obama's fault that the Bushies destroyed our economy, or the records clerk in Hawaii 50 years ago forged a birth certificate because they knew one day the baby would be a Democratic president. You just can't make some of this $#!+ up... Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? You will get what you deserve for voting for Obama. -- They have finally found the rumored engine that runs on water . . . . as long as it's gulf water. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others. ~General Dwight Eisenhower Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~Abraham Lincoln ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
DoctorBill wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
But some of the stuff that comes out of the ...
You will get what you deserve for voting for ...
There is no point to these arguments -- opinions are
hardened on both sides and will not be changed - only
an election will pronounce the citizen's verdict on
the current leadership. The rest is noise ...
Let's stay on topic here and see what the voters say
in November.
--
Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E
Communicators must defend free speech
or risk losing freedom entirely.
A Search Engine More! http://yippy.com
|_|___|_|
| | | |
/\ {|
/ \ {|
/\{|
/ @ \ {|
| |~_||
| -| ||
\ # http://KD4E.com
Have an http://ultrafidian.com day!
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent adress and send it. When I receive an E-mail message with an eml attachement, I read the message and then trash it without looking at the attachment. If the attachment happens to download, I trash it without opening it. I get already get many jokes in text form, jokes that don't require any graphic enhancement. I avoid most political messages on advice of my doctor, who nevertheless had to prescribe medication to lower my blood pressure. :) But some of the stuff that comes out of the conservative wing is so hilarious that you just have to forward it around. You know, stuff like we have to trim the deficit by giving huge tax breaks to the rich, or it's all Obama's fault that the Bushies destroyed our economy, or the records clerk in Hawaii 50 years ago forged a birth certificate because they knew one day the baby would be a Democratic president. You just can't make some of this $#!+ up... Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent adress and send it. When I receive an E-mail message with an eml attachement, I read the message and then trash it without looking at the attachment. If the attachment happens to download, I trash it without opening it. There are no attachment in the eml mail - the picture is embedded. You may trash what you will ... i don't care. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. I copy the message by highlighting and Ctrl-C, but the photos or graphics do not paste into a new mail frame. I tried copying the eml attachment itself and pasting, but the graphics gets lost. I even tried pasting the eml into WORD and no graphics. Pasting w/o formatting does not work either. Is there some trick to this w/o purchasing some expensive program to handle eml ? DoctorBill I have experimented with this problem in SM and the only reliable and editable solution I've found is to use File-Save As-File to save the note with images as a *.eml (type: mail file) to my Desktop. I then open it in Outlook Express (or WinMail) and I can now edit it to my heart's content (strip out headers, delete Blockquotes (using Source tab) and reformat it to my liking (using Edit tab). Then I Send it from OE as a completely cleaned-up original message. EML (Encapsulated MaiL) is OE's native file format and it will reliably text-encode all the images and include them. TB and SM know that embedded images are in their mailboxes so you can always see them on your computer but they don't encode them and mail them out as a multi-part message in MIME format. (The latter was created by Microsoft.) Images that have links to other servers or if they're attachments will be sent out properly by TB and OE. You can also save each incoming message image separately (using the Image Zoom add-on, http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#imagezoom ) and use Insert Image to embed it in SM and TB. It will then be sent out as an EML message. SM and TB seem to read, save and sometimes create EML messages but forwarding an incoming message with embedded images is problematic from my experience. Unfortunately, the workarounds are unwieldy. (If you want a seamless process, using OE is the answer.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:45:10 -0700, /DoctorBill/: Is there some trick to this w/o purchasing some expensive program to handle eml ? Yeah, one should be able to handle .eml (message/rfc822) attachments pretty much like native messages - copy to folder, reply to or forward them: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11013 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193281 etc. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269826 In the mean time one could install the ImportExportTools extension: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#importexporttools Save the .eml attachment to disk and import it as a normal message into some folder, then do what you wanna do with it. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
eml messages - copy including photos ?
I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. I copy the message by highlighting and Ctrl-C, but the photos or graphics do not paste into a new mail frame. I tried copying the eml attachment itself and pasting, but the graphics gets lost. I even tried pasting the eml into WORD and no graphics. Pasting w/o formatting does not work either. Is there some trick to this w/o purchasing some expensive program to handle eml ? DoctorBill -- They have finally found the rumored engine that runs on water . . . . as long as it's gulf water. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Good question with a couple of options... First, the reason this is happening is that the html message format image links reference local files on your computer which are not there when you send the message to others as they cannot access your hard drive after they receive your message. The easiest path (but not the best) is to right click the message header and forward the entire message... doing it this will re-embed the images in the full email. However (imho) doing this is terrible as it often ends a mass of bad email formatting and quoting depending on how many incarnations the original message has gone through. Turns out there IS an easy option to save ALL messages from an html message... in the message frame, view/messagebodyas/plaintext When you do this, all of the images will show up in the attachments window... right click there and select Save all and they are ready to paste into a clean new message. Hope that this information is of value. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent adress and send it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then... fwiw, while that works great on messages with only text and no embedded images, my experience with it is that images included in the message do not make it to the recipient(s) It can be pretty confusing since the images are all visible as you edit the message. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
On 8/9/10 11:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I get all sorts of jokes and political E-Mail from my conservative friends which I want to pass on to those on my mailing list. Often they are eml types of messages. When i have a mail with an eml attachement - i open it then i do Message - Edit Message As New then i add some text if needed - then i put FW: before the subject and finally i put the recipent adress and send it. When I receive an E-mail message with an eml attachement, I read the message and then trash it without looking at the attachment. If the attachment happens to download, I trash it without opening it. I get already get many jokes in text form, jokes that don't require any graphic enhancement. I avoid most political messages on advice of my doctor, who nevertheless had to prescribe medication to lower my blood pressure. :) -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
