Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-08-01 Thread Bob Fleischer

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

This bug usually hits you only if you don't start the browser first or
close the last browser Windows when Mail is still open. Always in TB
because it has no browser. It should not happen if you start the browser
normally first. Check the error console if you see some error messages
pointing to authentication or add-ons.
The mozilla devs really take their time to review this one despite me
and jorgk giving positive feedback. We might have to put it in a branch
for 2.49.1:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152
Well beggars can't be choosers and Firefox is not affected so this takes
the usual backseat...
FRG

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 28/07/2017 20:15, Bob Fleischer wrote:


I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
upgraded from V 2.46.

A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin"
Windows 10
(v 1703), everything works as before.


See the thread
"Problems with -sites requiring authentication"
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:32:31 +0200

I think you've run into this bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1347857
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152

The work-around, as you've found out, is restarting SM.
It seems it is something in the mail part that breaks
HTTP auth.

Regards.


That could be it, although I personally see no connection to mail.

As a test, I repeated the scenario I reported with my home system,
which has an entirely separate profile and always has.

I opened the same web site with 2.46, authenticated, and got in.

I then upgraded to 2.48, and got the same weird error message when I
tried to connect.

I then restarted 2.48 in safe mode, accessed the web site (with
remembered authentication in this case, no attempt to clear anything),
and got in.

Then I restarted 2.48 normally, and access to this web site worked OK.

Bob



I can confirm that, if I open the browser first, I do not have this problem.

Bob
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Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
This bug usually hits you only if you don't start the browser first or close 
the last browser Windows when Mail is still open. Always in TB because it has 
no browser. It should not happen if you start the browser normally first. 
Check the error console if you see some error messages pointing to 
authentication or add-ons.
The mozilla devs really take their time to review this one despite me and 
jorgk giving positive feedback. We might have to put it in a branch for 2.49.1:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152
Well beggars can't be choosers and Firefox is not affected so this takes the 
usual backseat...

FRG

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 28/07/2017 20:15, Bob Fleischer wrote:


I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
upgraded from V 2.46.

A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
(v 1703), everything works as before.


See the thread
"Problems with -sites requiring authentication"
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:32:31 +0200

I think you've run into this bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1347857
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152

The work-around, as you've found out, is restarting SM.
It seems it is something in the mail part that breaks
HTTP auth.

Regards.


That could be it, although I personally see no connection to mail.

As a test, I repeated the scenario I reported with my home system, which has 
an entirely separate profile and always has.


I opened the same web site with 2.46, authenticated, and got in.

I then upgraded to 2.48, and got the same weird error message when I tried to 
connect.


I then restarted 2.48 in safe mode, accessed the web site (with remembered 
authentication in this case, no attempt to clear anything), and got in.


Then I restarted 2.48 normally, and access to this web site worked OK.

Bob


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Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-29 Thread Bob Fleischer

Mason83 wrote:

On 28/07/2017 20:15, Bob Fleischer wrote:


I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
upgraded from V 2.46.

A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
(v 1703), everything works as before.


See the thread
"Problems with -sites requiring authentication"
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:32:31 +0200

I think you've run into this bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1347857
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152

The work-around, as you've found out, is restarting SM.
It seems it is something in the mail part that breaks
HTTP auth.

Regards.


That could be it, although I personally see no connection to mail.

As a test, I repeated the scenario I reported with my home system, which has 
an entirely separate profile and always has.


I opened the same web site with 2.46, authenticated, and got in.

I then upgraded to 2.48, and got the same weird error message when I tried 
to connect.


I then restarted 2.48 in safe mode, accessed the web site (with remembered 
authentication in this case, no attempt to clear anything), and got in.


Then I restarted 2.48 normally, and access to this web site worked OK.

Bob
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Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-29 Thread Mason83
On 28/07/2017 20:15, Bob Fleischer wrote:

> I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just 
> upgraded from V 2.46.
> 
> A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only 
> when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers, 
> and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 
> (v 1703), everything works as before.

See the thread
"Problems with -sites requiring authentication"
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:32:31 +0200

I think you've run into this bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1347857
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152

The work-around, as you've found out, is restarting SM.
It seems it is something in the mail part that breaks
HTTP auth.

Regards.
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Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-28 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bob Fleischer wrote:


Well, in case anyone else sees this issue.  The problem seems to be
fixed, although I don't know why:

I restarted in "add-ons disabled" mode, connected to the problem
server, authenticated, and the page displayed properly.

I exited SeaMonkey, started SeaMonkey normally, and I was able to
access that server normally.

All I can figure is that the stored cookie or authentication for the
server was damaged in some way, but this persisted even after I
removed all records of that server in the data manager.


If your theory is that a cookie got corrupted, the easy fix would have 
been to clear cookies and reattempt.


I don't usually get these types of errors because I clear private data 
(including cache and cookies) frequently, and automatically on program 
termination. An added benefit (or at least I tell myself that) is that 
it's harder for big brother to build a complete, accurate dossier.


--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

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Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Fleischer

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer  wrote:

I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
upgraded from V 2.46.

A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
(v 1703), everything works as before.


Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem
with your particular install on that machine.
Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode?  with a new profile?
with no addons?

Regards,
Lee




The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame
the server:



You are not authorized to view this page
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the
credentials you supplied.

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail
address or
phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.

HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
Internet Information Services

Technical Information (for support personnel)

Background:
This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the
proper
WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting
this is
done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request
that
the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource.

More information:
Microsoft Support



Note that I am not prompted for a login.

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Well, of course it's a problem with my particular install (or profile)
on that machine, but it was a profile that worked correctly in 2.46 (I
use that server every day).  It could mean that a valid but non-default
setting in 2.46 either migrated incorrectly to 2.48 or is implemented
incorrectly (or at least differently) in 2.48.

How do I go about diagnosing that?

(In case it makes a difference, this web server is a very old
version--Windows 2000.  This web site require authentication but is
non-secure--straight http.)

Bob
Well, in case anyone else sees this issue.  The problem seems to be 
fixed, although I don't know why:


I restarted in "add-ons disabled" mode, connected to the problem server, 
authenticated, and the page displayed properly.


I exited SeaMonkey, started SeaMonkey normally, and I was able to access 
that server normally.


All I can figure is that the stored cookie or authentication for the 
server was damaged in some way, but this persisted even after I removed 
all records of that server in the data manager.


Bob
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Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Fleischer

Lee wrote:

On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer  wrote:

I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
upgraded from V 2.46.

A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
(v 1703), everything works as before.


Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem
with your particular install on that machine.
Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode?  with a new profile?
with no addons?

Regards,
Lee




The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame
the server:



You are not authorized to view this page
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the
credentials you supplied.

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or
phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.

HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
Internet Information Services

Technical Information (for support personnel)

Background:
This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper
WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is
done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that
the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource.

More information:
Microsoft Support



Note that I am not prompted for a login.

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Well, of course it's a problem with my particular install (or profile) 
on that machine, but it was a profile that worked correctly in 2.46 (I 
use that server every day).  It could mean that a valid but non-default 
setting in 2.46 either migrated incorrectly to 2.48 or is implemented 
incorrectly (or at least differently) in 2.48.


How do I go about diagnosing that?

(In case it makes a difference, this web server is a very old 
version--Windows 2000.  This web site require authentication but is 
non-secure--straight http.)


Bob
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Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-28 Thread Lee
On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer  wrote:
> I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
> upgraded from V 2.46.
>
> A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
> when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
> and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
> (v 1703), everything works as before.

Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem
with your particular install on that machine.
Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode?  with a new profile?
with no addons?

Regards,
Lee



> The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame
> the server:
>
>>
>> You are not authorized to view this page
>> You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the
>> credentials you supplied.
>>
>> Please try the following:
>>
>> Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
>> If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
>> please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or
>> phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.
>>
>> HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
>> Internet Information Services
>>
>> Technical Information (for support personnel)
>>
>> Background:
>> This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper
>> WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is
>> done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that
>> the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource.
>>
>> More information:
>> Microsoft Support
>>
>
> Note that I am not prompted for a login.
>
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might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Fleischer
I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just 
upgraded from V 2.46.


A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only 
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers, 
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 
(v 1703), everything works as before.


The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame 
the server:




You are not authorized to view this page
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials 
you supplied.

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please 
contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or phone number 
listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.

HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
Internet Information Services

Technical Information (for support personnel)

Background:
This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper 
WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is done 
by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that the client 
use a certain authentication method to access the resource.

More information:
Microsoft Support



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